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'NoYellt>er 9, 1983
7:00 p.m.
City Cruncil Chant>ers
'Itae Meeting was called to crder by Chairman Schlehuber
at 7:04 p.m.
PLEOOE CF AIUX;INCE was led by Chairman Schlehuber.
Chairman Schlehuber anoounoed the Planning Ccmnissioo
Prooedlre as printed era the reverse side of the Agenda
am gave a shol"t sunmary of the Procedlre.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chairman Schlehuber, cannissioners
Raltx>tis, Marcus, Rawlins, Friestedt arxl
Lyttletoo.
Absent: cannissioner Farrow.
Staff Ment>ers Present:
Bill Hofman, Principal Planner
Charles Grinm, Principal Planner
catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner
Ex-officio Ment>ers Present:
Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Plaru1ing Manager
Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney
Richard Allen, Acting City Engineer
8. MP-150~ -C.AIAVERA HILU; cx:MPANY -Request to amend theavera Hills Master Plan to chanqe
densities, village ooundaries, develcpnent types arxl
parlc sites in the Calavera Hills Master Plan area.
Chairman Schlehuber announced there was a request for
continuance oo this item.
Bill Hofman, Principal Planner, stated a letter had been
received oo this ite111 and staff had not had a chance to
evaluate this. 'Itae !A)licant had no oojectioo to a
oontinulnoe, and indicated two weeks would be
uti.afact:ory.
'ltMt Oaaiuioo oontinued this item for two weeks until
Nc:Mllll,er 23, 1983.
Chairman Schlehuber stated there should be a field trip
in CD1aecticln with this item, and asked for the
aa.atuion'• preference as to the date. 'Itae
Cmllduumen ll!Jl'98d to meet at the Council Chaat>ers, oo
Mandlly, Mou rta 21, 1983, at 2:00 p.m., to take a field
trip to thi• prq,erty.
Q\aiman Schlehuber amounced that any interested party
oould go on the field trip.
Schlehuber
Rcldx>tis
Marcus
Rawlins
Lyttleta\
Frieetedt
X
X X
X
X
X
X
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Novent>er 9, 1983 Page 2
1. CUP-236 -JHIJll'Mf'S wrmESSES -Request for a
conditiooal use permit to allow a church at the end of a
future rul-de-sac located to the west of the rorthwest
corner of Elm Avenue and Monroe Street in the R-1-7,500
zone.
Bill Hofman, Principal Planner, gave the presentation on
this item as contained in the staff report, using
transparencies to 8how the property site. Arother
transparency was shown indicating the potential
developnent on this cul-de-sac.
In answer to a question fran Camdssioner Friestedt,
staff explained the traffic cx,unt prepared by the
applicant was inoonclusive and ro rea:mnendation was
made by the traffic consultant, leaving staff with
nothing on which to base an q,inion reqardinq the
traffic.
Camdssioner Ramotis irXfuired atx>ut the oojection to
the traffic and whether this applied only to future
traffic on the future cul-de-sac, and staff answered
that was oorrect.
Chairman Schlehuber q:>ened the public hearing at 7: 18
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Attorney Kenneth Barwick, 3434 Grove Street, Lem::r1
Grove, representing the Carlsbad Congregation of
Jehovah's Witnesses, stated he would like to have the
traffic engineer address the Comnission regarding the
traffic study.
Mr. John Mo\llister, 6464 Corsica way, San Diego,
addressed the camds.sion, with Attorney BMwidc
questiooing him ~arding his qualifications. Mr.
Mc~llister is a Traffic Engineer with the State of
California Department of Transportation, c!nd stated he
was been actively engaged in his profession for nore
than twenty-four years.
Mr. "°'-llister stated it appeared that utaff's oojection
to the traffic inpact in the cul -de-sac did rot take
into oonsideratioo the fact that at the time of maxinum
buil~t, the street would be 40 ft. or nore fran curb
to rurb. He stated that local street would have an
estilMted 500 vehicle trips per day and the cul-de-sac
would haYe 300 11\llXin.lln. '!be ooni)er of parking spaces in
the dlurdl parldng lot would be 77, with 1 50 cars er
or vehiclee mking a trip a day-only twice a week-
this would leave a lot of. apace for the 500 trips for
the t,MSt cl. the residents. He stated it is a local
street and rot a rul-de-sac, M the cars would be
goir¥;J into the church lot and leaving ao many
houra later. He did rot feel the church would adversely
bpact. the traffic along the prqx>sed cul-de-sac.
In aiawer to ~ry, Mr. MalU.lister 1:1tated he was oot
involved in the actual traffic study made oo this
proposal. He stated th"" traffic cx,unt appeared to be
accurate, and this type of. land use ;~ld rot gt,-nerate a
lot ot traffic. A Bton! would generate lftlch nore
traffic, with oars <Dni ng and going constantly.
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Novefft>er 9, 1983 Page 3
Attorney Barwick stated the church had dedicated to the
City a strip of land fran Valley along Elm the entire
length of the property, qivinq up access to Elm. 'lttis
was a request fran the City to ensure any future
property owners rot being able to exit ooto Elm Avenue.
Mr. Barwick stated it was unfair for the City to oow
object to the traffic inpact a, the future rul-de-sac,
particularly when that street will be as wide as any
local street in the City.
Mr. Barwick asked to have entered into the rerord a copy
of a ~t entitled San Diego Associatioo of
Goven-.nents and the oaptioo of the document is: A Brief
Guide of Vehicular Traffic Generatia, Rates for the
San Diego Regier,, Novefft>er, 1981.
Mr. Barwick stated that under the designated land use of
a church, the estimated weekday vehirular trips is 30
trips per thousand square feet. He stated he used the
square feet, inasnuch as the property size is deceptive
due to a canyon area that is rot usable. Mr. Barwick
stated figures showinq if the maxinum of twenty rouses
was reached, that would use 200 of the trip capacity,
leaving 300 for the church. 'ltle church would be meetinq
basically twice a week, with a maxinum of 78 cars,
generating 160 or less trips a, those days.
Camdssioner Friestedt ac;ked Mr. Barwick whether this
informatioo had been supplied to staff prior to this
meeting and Mr. Barwick answered it had rot.
Camdssioner Friestedt CXJlll'llented that staff made its
reo:mnendatia,s based a, the information at hand prior
to the neeting.
Attorney Barwick read Condition 'I'«> under Findings a,
Page 2 of the Resolutia,. He also quoted fran the
Disrussion area of the Staff Report.
Mr. Barwick stated the first two residences next to the
proposed church site are owned by church ment>ers and
lived in~ church ment>ers, creating a ooffer between
the church and the available [-uture property. 'ltte
peq>le purchasing a lot there in the future will realize
there is a church there and will have a choice to ooy er
not.
Mr. Barwick called attentioo to the church across the
street with a parking lot just a,e oar larger than the
prq,oeed lot for this church. He added that the ptq>06ed
church parking lot would E!ll'pty through their own
property and mt create any traffic problem. He stated
he felt staff had rot presented any facts to support the
oonclusioo that the proposed street would rot be
adequate. Mr. Barwick referred to the EIR and the fact
that staff had used the word "maybe• in answer to
several of the (Jleetioos regarding the traffic i.npact.
He ooncluded, eayinq there was ro basis fer denying the
church l.l'8e in this area, partirularly after the church
donated the ten-ft. strip the City requested.
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Novent>er 9, 1983 Page 4
Camdssiaier Friestedt reiterated for the benefit of the
audience that all facts should be presented to staff
before they make their reoonmendatioo, and rot at the
hearing. titlen those facts are rot available to staff
originally, staff makes a recamiendatioo oo facts
available to them, which often means that reoonmendatioo
will be an lD'lfavorable ooe.
Camrl.ssimer Lyttletoo inquired about the omership of
the property between Elm and c:bm to Valley, and the
Attorney stated the church did own that property.
camdssia,er Lyttletoo asked t.'hy they placed the church
at the end of the rul~c rather than at the other
end of the prq;erty, and Mr. Barwick stated there is
a canyai at the other end of the property, and the
prqx,eed site would provide a b.Jffer between the church
and the neighbors. In the interest of being a good
neighbor, the church would rot want to disturb the
neighbors with traffic at night or roise, and since the
other side of the street is now agricultural, it was
felt there would be less inpact with the church at the
prqx,eed site.
Camdssiaier Rawlins asked about the possibility of
developnent of the side of the street owned U)' the
church, and the Attorney stated the church would tq>e to
eventually sell sane of that property. A transparency
showing the four parcels omed U)' the church was
referred to, and Camrl.ssiaier Rawlins suggested if all
lots were sold to church mentiers, there would be ro
problem. 'lbe Attorney answered that anyooe b.Jying there
in the future would be aware that a church existed
there.
Camdssicner RClt'totis stated there are eleven lots
across the street that the church ooes rot c:ontrol, and
that is the oonflict. 'lbe Attorney stated the present
owner has ro objectioo to the church. Camdssiaier
Raltx:>tis stated the potential land use across the street
was the problem, and the church cannot control that. Ae
added he felt it was rot a traffic problem per se, rut a
land use oonflict. 'lbe Attorney agreed there is always
a problem when a church is to be wilt in a residential
area.
Mr. Richard B. Maogurn, 2800 Wilson Street, carlsbad,
addressed the Ccmnissioo in support of the project. He
stated it was the type of develcpnent he would like to
see in his neighboroood. Re stated there is a serioos
traffic problem where the small street to the north of
Bl.Jn <DaeS into Elm. 'lbe sight problem is critical at
that point, and it is difficult to see children a:ming
out of that street. Mr. Macgurn would like to see
saaething oone in that area before a serious accident
happens.
Mr. John H. Hacker, 4501 SUmy ~ Road, Palm Springs,
adc!ressed the camlissioo, stating he helps establish
churches for Jehovah's Witnesses. He d.ted exanples of
churches in other cities that have been llJlProved, as the
churches are designed to resent>le hares, making them
caipatible in a residential neighborhcxx1.
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Novent>er 9, 1983 Page 5
Since no one else wished to speak oo this item, the
public testim:lny was closed at 7:53 p .m.
The Ccmnission discussed the parking ratio, and staff
stated the City requires ooe parking space for each
three seats in a bJildinq such aq a church. However,
staff stated it would be difficult to determine the
nunner of passenc:rers for those attending church, aq it
could be family groups or just single drivers. I': was
noted that nost churches do have a parkinq overflow, and
that would be less desirable oo a cul-de-sac. Acting
City Engineer Richard Allen stat ed ooe fact had been
omitted by the Attorney, and that was that for Sunday,
the figures should be tripled to establish the trip
f'•--bers. That would make the trip load 324---with each
car makinq one trip in and ooe trip rut.
Ccmnissioner RClltx>tis aqked whether the church rented
its facilities rut to other groups and the Attorney
answered they did not; that it was forbidden by the
church law. Mr. Barwick stated further that this is a
f iWllily-oriented church, and families attend church
together. There would be oo teenage drivers racing up
the cul-de-sac.
Ccmnissioner Lyttleton asked staff whether they q:posed
churches in single family areas. Staff stated they were
not q:posed to the church ooncept in single family
areas, but were ooncerned with this particular location
since it ~ld create significant traffic i.npacts oo
single family hemes.
A rrotion was made to ~rove a new Resolution approving
CTJP--236 .
The notion failed due to a tie vote.
The Planning Ccmnission adopted the followinq
Resolutioo, withoot prejudice:
REOOLUI'ICN 00, 2187, DENYJN; A a:N)ITICNAL IBE PERMIT '10
PERMIT A aruRCH IN '1HE R-1-7,500 ZOOE CN ProPERTY
GFNERALLY l'.OCATEO CN FUIURE 1'CCAULEY IANE, WEST OF 'l1lE
OORl'HWEST INTERSECI'ICN OF f<NIDE SI'REET AND EU1 AVENUE,
Chairman Schlehuber announced the applicant has the
right to appeal this decision to the City Council, and
if they wanted to tring it back to the Ccmnission, by
deny ing without prejudice, they would have that ~tion.
The suggestion was made that if Council denied the
appeal, the ar.plicant should return with an alternate
plan, using the parcel closes t to the streets. Staff
would qi~ tht!III guidance for an acceptable plar, with
pre.per inqress and egress.
2. CT 83-22/CP-245 -FRAZAR -Request for approval of a
six-unit tentative tract map and oondominium permit
located at the northwest oorner of Cacatua Street and
Unioornio Street.
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COMMISSIONERS q,_ ~\_ \
Schlehuber
Raltx:ltis
Marcus
Rawlins
Lyttleton
Friestedt
Schlehuber
Raltx:ltis
Marcus
Rawlins
Lyttleton
Friestedt
X
X
X X
X
X
X
X X
X
X
X
X
X
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PlN-IU~ CXMIISSI~ Novent>er 9 , 1 98 3 Page 6
Bill Hofman, Principal Planner, gave the presentation en
this item as rontained in the staff relX)rt, using a
transparency showing the location of the property. He
used wall mape showing the property and prq:iosed plan.
Chairman Schlehuber cpened the public hearing at 8:09
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Mr. John Frazar, 6992 El Camino Real, Suite 104-361, the
applicant, ld1ressed the Comnission, stating he was
available for questions. He stated the lot at the rear
is 25 ft. lower than this project, which IOlld eliminate
any problem as far as the recreational area is
concerned.
Bill Hofman stated there were standard engineering
conditions oot included in the staff relX)rt, which were
distributed to the Comnissioners prior to the ~ting.
He recx:mrended those be included with the documents.
The applicant was reviewing these oonditions at the
present time.
Mr. Jorgen Hoflund, 2656 State Street, the Engineer en
the project, addressed the Comnission, stating the
applicant would ronform with the oonditions presented
tonight.
Mr . F'rederidc lbbinson, 2808 Cacatua Street, stated he
lives directly north of the project, and was speaking
for several of the neighoors. His roncern was with the
parking situation. He stated there is overflow parking
from the oondominiums there row, and it is a hazard to
the children in the neighoorhood. Mr. lbbinson stated
that a ho-car gar.age is oot sufficient, since :arely
does a t....o-car garage contai n o.o oars. He felt there
would be en-street parking, and felt the requirements
should be chatw:?ed to increase the off-street parking.
Mr. l«Jbinson stated he felt there should be at least
three spaces available for each unit.
Mr. Hoyle Daniels, 6434 Chiriqui Lane, addressed the
Comnissi on i n qJpOSition to the project, statinq there
a re too nany peq,le in that area, and the condominiums
bui lt recently are of poor 1Uality. He stated he would
want a fence installed to prevent pecple looking into
his yard and pool.
Mr. Prazar answered sane of the questions, by stating he
was fully eware of sane of the oondominium problenB in
the La Costa area. The reason for the parking problenB
is inprQJer location of the garages. In the oondominium
mentialed, he stated the garages &:e separate fran the
condaminiw , and the owners find it nore convenient to
carry purchases fran their cars fran the street. Mr.
Frazar s tressed oonpatibility with the neighoorhood, and
assured the neighoors the oonstruction 10Jld be top
quality . He s tated cne reason he came in with fewer
uni ts was to blend in with the ne ighoorhood. Mr. Frazar
stated he woul d put a wall across the rear of the
prq>erty.
Since oo cne else wished to speak en this item, the
public testimony was closed at 8:21 p.m.
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PI.ANNIN'.; ~SSIOI Novent>er 9 , 1 98 3 Page 7
Ccmnissioner Raltx>tis stated he felt the ronditions were
not applicable and suggested staff bring back
appropriate conditions for this project.
The Planning Ccmnission approved the Negative
Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planninq Manager and
adc.pted the following Resolution, subject to
modification of the conditions presented by staff, to be
reviewed by the Chairman at the time of siqning:
RESOim'IOI 00. 2213, APPRJIT11,l"; A SIX-lJNIT 'Iffll'ATIVE
TRACT 19.P AND cn«x:NINI!J4 PERMIT OI ProPERI'Y GENERALLY
LOCAIBD OI 'lHE WEST SIDE OF CACA'l'UA STREET AND OOR'1ll OF
UNICO~IO STREET.
3. CUP-237 -RAl'O«) I.A C03TA CABLE TV -Request for a
conditional use permit to construct and qierate a cable
'IV earth statioo approximately 1,000 feet east of the
intersection of El Fuerte Street and Luciernaga Street
in the P--C zone.
Charles Grimn, Principal Planner, gave the presentation
on this item as rontained in the staff report, using a
transparency to show the location map.
Chairman Schlehuber qx-rled the rublic ~ring at 8:27
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Mr. Fred Morey, Vice President & General Manager of
Rancho La Costa Cable 'IV, spoke to the Comnission,
stating this station will be canouflaged and will blend
into the natural terrain. He stated their main concern
was to keep the neighbors happy.
Since oo one elsP. wished to speak a, this item, the
public testim::lny was closed at 8:30 p.m.
The Planning Ccmnission approved the Neqative
Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager
and aoopted the following Resolution:
RESOU11'IOI 00. 2217, APPRO.Tn,l; A CDIDITirnAL IBE PERMIT
'ro affiriix'.'T AND Ci>ERATE A TV E'AR'rn SfATIOI Cl\l ProPERTY
GFNERALLY UXAIBD APPOXIM.A.TELY 1 , 000 FEET FAST OF 'lHE
INl'ERSECTIOI CF EL FUERTE STREET AND WCIERNAGA STREET.
4. V-350 · ~ -Request for a variance to permit
a 216-foot driveway for tWf" panhandle lots at 1448
Forest Avenue.
Charles Grimn, Principal Planner, gave the presentation
on this item as rontained in the staff report, using a
transparency showing the location map.
In answer to query regarding the jog in the street
frontage, staff answered the appl icant will be
dedioatir,;J a strip of land at the front of the lot as
a OO'lditioo of the parcel map.
Chairman Schlehuber q>ened the public hearing at 8: 33
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Mr. Alton L. Ruden, 2733 Mesa Drive, Oceanside,
Engineer, addre88ed the Ccmniss~oo, stating Mr. and
Mrs. Dedtelman \l!l!!re in the audience and would answer any
questions.
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COMMISSIONERS ~ ~\°\ ~\
Schlehuber X
Ralt>otis X X
Marcus X
Rawlins X
Lyttleton X
Friestedt X
Schlehuber X
Ralt>otis X
Mara..s X
Rawlins X X
Lyttleton X
Friestedt X
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NoventJer 9, 1983 Paqe
Since oo cne else wished to speak en this item, the
public testiloony was closed at 8:34 p.m.
The Planninq Camdssien adopted the followinq
Resolution:
RESOLUl'IOI 00. 2219, APPROVI'tl:; A VARIANCE 'ID PERMIT A
216-ro:Yr DRIVE».Y 'ID AJ..JJJ,J 'IRE CREATIOI OF PANHANDLE
LOl'S AT 1448 FOREST AVENUE.
5. CT 83-28/CP-252 -PAR'INERS EX)UITY -Request for
approval of a tentative subdivision map and o::>rldominium
permit for 25 units generally located en the oorthwest
corner of Chirquapin Avenue and Interstate 5 in the RD-M-
Q zone.
Catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner, gave the
presentation en this item as contained in the staff
report.
Chairman Schlehuber cpened the public hearinq at 8: 37
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Mr. Ken Stack, 23265 Buckland, El Toro, a:Jdressed the
Camdssion stating the applicant accepts all conditions,
but did have a question en 13. He stated they would
like assurance the sewer capacity would be there when
needed. The Ment,ers of the Camdssion assured ll'r. Stack
there was plenty of sewer capacity in the City at the
present time. However, the Ccmnission oould rot make
any such guarantees.
In answer to query, Mr. Stack stated he would put a six-
foot concrete block wall or the equivalent along the rear
prq:>erty line. He stated there is a new material that,
although oone in cement, resent>les wood and should
mitigate the ooise inpact.
Mrs. Joan Kelley, 3952 Jefferson, a:Jdressed the
Camdssion regarding her concern about the traffic
inpact en Jeffersoo. Staff stated this had been
stooied, and they four¥'! oo adverse effect.
Since oo cne else wished to speak en this item, the
public testiloony was closed at 8:42 p.m.
The Planning Ccmnission approved thf' Negative
Declaratien issued by the Landu~ Planninq Manager and
adopted the following Resolution:
~IOI 00. 2220, APPROVIll:; A TENl'ATIVE SUBDIVISIOI
MAP AND CXHX:)UNitJot PERMIT FOR 25 l.NITS CN 1. 52 ACRES OF
POOPER'l'Y Gm:RALLY IOC.ATED CN 'lHE OORmWE.5'I' CDRNER OF
CHINJ(JAPIN AvmJE AND INI'ERSTATE 5.
REX:ESS:
Chairman Schlehuber declared a recess at 8:43 p.m. and
the Camdssien re-convened at 8:54 p.m. with all
Carmissioners present except Camdssion Farrow.
N~ PUBLIC HF.ARita:.: (Continued)
6. CT 83-~0 -CliE.5'IWlJl' VIIJA5 -Request for an
11-unlt pl velopment en a 2.24-acre site en the
south side of Chestnut Avenue between AdanB Street and
Highlaoo Drive.
Schlehuber X
lbrbotis X
Marcus X
Rawlins X
Lyttleton X
Friestedt X X
Schlehuber X
lbrbotis X
Marcus X
Rawlins X
Lyttleton X
Friestedt ) X
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PIANNIN:; CIHIISSI~ Novermer 9, 1983 Page 9
Charles Grimn, Principal Planner, gave the
presentation a, this item as oontained in the staff
report, using a transparency showing the location map.
He carmented that the existing Condition 130 will be
rem::ived. Wall llllpS were used by Mr. Grimn to show
the site plan and exterior elevations.
In answer to Ccmnission questions, Mr. Grimn stated the
lots "°-lld be postage starrps: with comron areas around
the per ureter.
Chairman Schlehuber q,ened the public hearing at 9:00
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak.
Mr. ~ard Ebright, architect, 6757 Corintia Street,
addressed the Ccmnission for the o.mers, giving the
history of the project fran 1977. He explained the
cluster-type of units with the large green areas to be
maintained as a:moon area, which will back up to the
other prq,erties in the area. He stated this would be
111Jch nore desirable than back yards backing up to those
properties if there were s ingle-family units there.
Mrs. Kathy Borsa, 1340 Hillview Court, addressed the
Coornission stating she is q:.posed to the plan as it
stands rn,,. She stated she "'10Uld not be q:.posed if
these were single family reside:1ces. Mrs. Borsa added
that the attached dwellings are not selling well en Hosp
aoo she felt these "°-!ld oot sell. hlso, the c1F,Plicant
is starting with half of the project and she q:.pose1
having just half of the project axrpleted. In
conclusion, Mrs. Borsa stated she was ooncerned about
Hillview Court going through and rreeting with WocxUand
Way. Mr. Grimn answered that this is a "super block"
area and the City is looking at the cirC1Jlation. 'Ille
Actino City Enqineer stated the future developrent will
affect what happens with the streets. Mrs. Borsa
reilerated her (l)p()Sition to Hillview Court going
through and the attached dwelling ooncept.
Mr. Richard Porter, 1310 Hillview Court, addressed the
Coornission in q,position to the project, statinq this
would set a precedent. He also stated these "'10Uld be
th~ residences with a ooe-car garage, which
would oot be adequate. Mr. Porter also oojected to
Hillview Court being put through to Woodland Way,
stating this would be creating a dangerous traffic
situation, especially for the children. He stated he
would like to see the plan for the entire area. Staff
indicated this was oot possible. Mr. Porter stated he
would like to hold this matter in abeyance until the
questions of cirC1Jlation with the streets has been
establi ed.
Mr. D:>right answered the questions regarding JX)ase a,e
and two, stating the first five units would be
ca,pletely develq,ed with the qreen areas installed-it
would oot be a partial deve loprent. He added the omers
did not want to b.Jild the entire eleven units until
they saw how the first phase sold. To answer Mr.
Porter, Mr. Ebright stated there will be garaqes and an
area designated for carports. 'rtiis was cbne to lxealc LP
the massing effect.
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Nove!Tber 9, 1983 Page 10
There was a discussioo about the easement, which was
part of the approval. The Acting City Engineer stated
that would be offered for dedication and was a carry-
over frcrn the original project. Conmissioner Rrntx>tis
ii-quired whether a knuckle rould be made at the end of
the street and the Acting City Engineer said that would
be acceptable. The Conmissioners agreed this rould be
deleted.
Since oo ooe else wished to speak oo this item, the
public testiJrony was closed at 9:26 p.m.
Five letters were filed with the Conmission from people
who favored the project.
There was a discussion arrong the Conmissioners as to the
feasibility of single units versus attached units, but
again Mr. Ebright stated the applicant's reasons for
planning the project this way.
Mr. Ebright stated if the easement dedication were
deleted, they rould then nove the units back, creating
more area between the two clusters.
Conmissiooer Friestedt stated clustering is very
acceptable housing in Soothem California and it would
involve a great deal of expense to ask the applicant to
change to single family residences at this point. He
added that this type of project would be a,npatible with
single family residences.
The Planning Conmission approved the Negative
Declaration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and
adopted the following Resolution:
RESOUJrICN 00. 2218, APPRJV'JN; ~ 11-uNIT PLANNED
DEVEWPMENT OI PRJPERTY <»IBRALLY LOCATED OI 2. 24 ACRES
00 'llfE !D.mi SIDE OF OfES'IWUT AVENUE BE'IWE™ HIGHIAND
DRIVE ~ AI:W6 STREET.
This is subject to the following change:
The proviso N for the dedication of the sootheast
easenent is to be eliminated. 'Itlis would be oo the
southeast prcperty line leading toward Hiqhland and
the applicant shall sul:mi t a knuckle design at the end
of the prcfl06ed street that is acceptable to the City
Engineer.
7. CT 83-26/CP-250/V-351 -OCF.AN PINE L'ID -Request
for a tentative tract map and oondcminium permit for
nine attached ~lling urii ts oo • 45 acres oo prcperty
located at 347 Pine Avenue, between Lincoln Street and
Washington Street. Also, request for approval of a
variance to allow decreased driveway width oo the
project.
Catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner, gave the
preeentatioo oo this item as oontained in the staff
report, using a transp,rency to show the property at 347
Pine Avenue.
Chairman Schlehuber q>ened the publ ic hearing at 9: 34
p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Since oo ooe
wished to speak oo this item, the public testiJrony
portion of this item was closed.
Schlehuber X
Rarbotis X X
Marcus X
Rawlins X
Lyttleton X
Friestedt X
MINUTES
Novent>er 9, 1983
The Planning Camtission adq:>ted the following
Resolut ions:
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RESOllJI'!OO 00. 2215, APP~ A 9-uNIT IBNTATIVE 'fflACT
MAP AND CDID>!INn.. PERMIT OI PROPERTY LOCATED OI .45
ACRES AT 347 PINE Avmt.JE.
RESOllJI'IOO 00. 2216, APPR:N!N:; A VARIANCE 'IO DECRFA5E
THE DRIVE».Y WIIYm FR01 24 FEET 'IO 21 FEET OI PROPERTY
LO:ATED 01 .45 ACRES AT 347 PINE AVENUE.
8. MP-150iF) -CAI.AVERA HILLS CCMPANY -This item was
continued lor two weeks.
9. Ll5ARDI COOSTROCTIOI RE: CARL.5BAD COIMF.RCIAL
CENI'ER.
Bill Hoftran reported this was a request for a
rrodification of the oondition of aproval. A
t r ansparency was used to show the m::xHfication. The
applicant is requesting the requirement for a wall to be
deleted and landscaping to be used. He stated there was
no action necessary by the Camtission, if the Comnission
concurred that the change was minor.
APPROJAL OF MINlYIBS:
The Minutes of the October 26, 1983, meeting were
approved as presented.
The Planning Camtissioo oontinued this meeting to
Monday, Noverrher 21, 1983, at 2:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chl!l'lt>ers, in order to have a field trip en t,e
Calavera Hills Carpany item.
Camtiss ioner Friestedt announced he was sul:Jnittinq
his res iqnatioo effective t.arorrow, Novent>er 10, 1983,
as he i s noving to Santa Monica, CA, and is ro longer
able to serve as a Camtissioner en the Planning
Ccmnission.
By pre.per notioo, the meeting of Noverrber 9, 1983, was
adjourned at 9: 40 p. m. , to Monday, November 21 , 1 983, at
2:00 p.m. i n the City Council Charrbers.
Respectful ly sutrnitt~
MICHAEL J. I
Land Use Planning Manager
Harriett Batl:>i tt
Minutes Clerk
MEETIN,S ARE ALOO 'IJ\PED AND KEPI' OI FILE LNI'IL APPRJ\IED.
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Rawlins
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Ramotis
Marcus
Rawlins
Lyttleton
Friestedt
Schlehuber
Ramotis
Marcus
Rawlins
Lyttletoo
Friestedt
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