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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-09-12; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting of: Date of Meeting: The of Meeting: Place of Meeting: CALL 'ID CHER: MINUTES PIJHm«; ~s.5Iai Sept.ent,er 12, 1984 7:00 p.m. City Council Chant>ers 'l'1e Meeting was called to crder by Olairnan Rad:x>tis at 7:03 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Cllairman Ralix>tis, Camlissiaiers Schlehuber, Smith, Marcus, Farrow and McFadden. Absent: Comnissia,er L 'Reureux. Staff Meailers Present: Catherine Nidlolas, Assistant Planner Charles Grillln, Principal Planner Walter Brown, Civil Engineer Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager Ex-officio MelliJers Present: Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney Chairmn Rcab:>tis announced I tenE 3 and 4 would be oontinued. Planning Ccndssioo ClXltinued Item 13, SP-191- &HM:RBEI(, and Item 14, 7.C-308/CP-283 CARLSBAD EEACH ~ CUlB, to Septellt,er 26, 1984. Chairmn Rallbotis announced the resignaticri of ca.issiooer/Vioe-<hairmn Rawlins and asked for naainatialS fer Vioe-<hairman. Ccaiissicner Schlehuber nominated Camdssiaier Farrow and ec-issimer Marcus seoonded the nondnaticri. C.C-,julcner McFadden naainated Cclllnissicrier MarCllS, but ncainaticri ws oot aeoonded. Pl.aming Cawissicri elected camdssiooer Farrow Vi~ Ow.nan by aocl-ticri. OMliran Rollb:>t1a stated there "11118 a letter requesting a reri.• of the CXJP for iibolworth, with the mtter to be Nt far public hearing. Planning 0:--issia'l directed staff to eet for plblic hearing a review of the CUP for iibolworth, at the eeacnd -ting in October. loltotis X Schlehuber X Smith X Marcus X Farrow X Mcf'adden X X laltx>tis X Schlehuber X X Sllith X Marcus X Farrow X McFadden X Accotis X Schlehuber X X saith X Marcus X t'arrow X Nd"adl:at X MINUTES -_ ARm«; CDl(ISSIOf septent>er 12, 1984 Page 2 Chairman Raltx>tis turned the neeting over to Chairman McCoy for a joint meeting of Planning Comni.ssioo and Design Review Board. JOIN'!' MEETDli WI'm !ESI~ REVIEW B:li\RD: 1. RP/CUP 84-15/aJP-249 CDi\Sl' tm'ff!D ADVERJ.'ISnr:i - Request for awrc>val of a Cmdi timal use Penni t to allow bus bench advertising at 51 locatioos throughout the City. catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner, gave the report al this i ten, using transparencies showing the tench sites, and had pictures of benches shaling the signs oo the benches. '!here are 51 requested t:enches, l006t already in place, with 21 of them in the Redevelopnent Area, neoessitating the approval of the Design Review Board. Chairman Md:O'j q>erled the public hearing at 7: 11 p.m. and issued the invitatioo to speak. Since ro ate wished to epeak al this item, the public hearing was closed. 'ftle Design Review Board unanimusly approved the Negative Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and aiq,ted the following Resolutioo: RESOUJTIOi Kl. 042, Dl!NYDl:i A llEDEVEIDREfl' PERMIT 'IO AUDf BJS BIR:B AD\IER'l'ISnr:i NX I.OCATICfiS 'lHR:XX3:xn' 'IBE REDBYEIDPMmfl' PlnJFCI' AREA. Planning a:..issimer Fm asked hcllf this~ and staff stated the benches had been put there illegally. '1here will neec! to be strict IID'litccing to insure these bendle8 are rot put out again. Planning ca.dssioo appt<>ved the Negative Declaratioo issued by the Land use Planning Manager and aoopted the following Resolutioo: REl:ODl'IOi Kl. 2345, ~ A CIH)ITICfiAL IEE PERMIT 'tO mzi1> 1iJs IIJlll M:Nml'!Snr:i NX 51 I.OCA'rICfiS 'l'HR'naxrt 'l'BB CITY CP CMLSBAD. 2. ~,.;up 84-116,;CT 84-21 -TMARACIC BEM:H RPS:Rl' - ~ li:ii 8144'-il of a Redevelqaent Peiidt, Ccnlitimal Use Pemit, Tentative Subdivisioo Map and Ccnctcainim Pemit to develop a hotel, restaurant and tia-ahare oondalinim project oo the east side of carlabad Boulevard between Wrll.nut Avenue and Pine A'V'eble in the V-R acne. Chria Saloa:ine g119e the r:epcct as CXll'ltained in the ataff nport, stating at the previous joint aeeting the ptql0Nd parking was rot adequate, particularly me spaae for a t.o--bec!roca CD'ldcainita. 'lbe awlioant has taan the directioo provided at that 111eeting, and has al!e ■ignificmt c::ha,ges. A transpn-ency ws used ahowing the ■ite, and the re&ioed size. A -.11 chart WM aNd to ahow the change in the t:uild1.ng with the •~ effect, 'Nhich '°1ld also provide views fer the peq,le living behind this project. Aleo, aplayee parting WM (JJellticried, tut staff felt that the perking ordinance doe■ take into o:nsideration the aployee parting ratio. '!be recllctioo in the l"Ultler of two- bedroca unit■ doe■ aocount for' a remctioo in the building aise . Mc!:oy lolb::,tis Bol.Jlles Marcus Schlehuber lt:llb:>t is Schlehuber Sid.th Marcus Farrow McP~ X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES Septellt)er 12, 1984 Page 3 Cbairan McCoy q,ened the ?]blic hearing at 7:20 p.m. and issued the invitatiat to speak. Mr. Willi• canepa, 1400 Ocean Avenue, Del Mar, stated he had aet with the people who had ooncerns about the project. Be used a transparency to show the site and an enlarged drawing of the site. Mr. canepa stated the ardlitecture we in keeping with the villag&- mdi terranean-with a warm at::Dcsphere and a lot of attentiat to landaoaping detail. Be ooted the palm trees pictured at the elevatiat mp would be that size when planted. Be had a Sllllll ncdel, a vignette, showing the new design far the b.tilding. ~is IIDdel vas Wli te in a>lcx and rot the rolor of the proposed building, b.tt we put en exhibit for the Coamissicners and Board M !ri>e'"S to view. Mr. canepa stated the reaainder of the rnrthern portiat of the b.tilding would curve around the axner and be stepped badt just as this IDdel showed for the 90Uthern portioo. Mr. canepa showed all the awards IICl'I Of the Wave Crest project in Del Mar. Ccallissicner Schlehuber asked about the parking entrance for the restaurant, wiich is en Walnut, and what would haR>erl if you inadvertently entered the carl.sbad Boulevard interground parking for the oondc-1.nims. Mr. canepa stated they might have ooded parking for the a::ird:ainims, and it was possible there might be space available foe restaurant parking in that area. Be gave the statistics for the l'I.Jlllber of employees to be hired, and did oot feel lln'f parking probl• would be created. 'ffte City rodes are being following and the IIA)licant is rot asking far lff/ relief in the ruiber of parking spaces. '!be applicant feels there will be overlapping in the parking far the oondc-1.niias and restaurant. Design Review Board ME!lllber Holmes asked about the awnings and ascertained they would be canvas. Mr. Byra\ Wiegand, 700 Prospect, La Jolla, President of. Wave Crest Bclaolfflers Aaaociatiat at Del Mar, spoke in favor ot. this project, stating the tiJlle-share o,ners aaJce good neighbora1 that they OOE to their oondoainiias to relax. 'fttey take pdde in their pl.'q>Ct.r am in the craunity and ct:> oot oontrib.tte to traffic at peak h:lurs. 'ff'°8e owners pay for the acnoola, but ct:> rot 1ae t:hea1 and spend t1-in the restaurants a stq>e apending aia,ey in the craunity. Mr. Robert Nelsen, 3494 Garfield, Village Merchant, spoke in favor of the project, stating t. WE looking fcxvard to the influx of people. Mr. Ralph ~laM, 630 Gr:and Averll.>e, a10ther Village Merchlnt ~, stated he had apolten to several other alllbera, am they all feel this is one of the finest pl.'Ojeeta mml tted ao far and will increaae bJsiness ani! the tu stru-:-1:ure. Sbann Wilt, 305 Prince Bouae Lane, Bncl.nit.M, epoke in f1190r ot. this project., stating she wru in <:arlsbad and feels this will be a beautiful e011plu. Mrs. Pnnkie Rurm:>, 355 lllJI, apoke in favor of the pL"'Ojec!t, stating Ille -■ en a,e at. the first bouda to write the rul• am t.lt this .. a good type ot. building. '!he peq,le there would be a good n!itiat. MINUTES Septeaiber 12, 1984 Page 4 Since oo ooe else wished to speak a, this item, the public hearing was cloeed at 7:43 p.m. Planning ca.issiooer Smith pointed out he was oot at the initial meeting, but has read the Minutes of the August 8, meeting, and is familiar with what transpired. He felt he was able to vote a, this project. Design Review Board approved the Negative Declaratia, issued by the Lane use Planning Manager and~ the following Resolutioo: RE9:>IDl'IClf I«). 038, ~m:; APPlOVAL Cf' A RBDEVEIDPMmrl' PERMIT~ ClH>ITICNAL CEE ~T 'ID DEVEIDP A 54-0NIT TIME-seARE a:Hnmm.JM, 23 unit rot.el and restaurant a, 1. 56 ACRF.S OP PR)PERTY c»mRAILY ~ Qi 'lBE F.AS1' SIDE Cf' CARLSBAD BXJLEVARD ~ W1uRJT AVIHJE Ml> PINE AVEMJE. Planning camnissiooer Farrow asked whether parking would be MSigned fcx the a:.ncbninilllll owners and staff stated that was rot a a:nditioo and would have to be worked out by the mmagers of the project. Ccallissiooer Farrow also expressed concern atx>ut the percentage of sale of time-share a:.ncbninium and staff stated they had rot Il!gUl.ated that. Mr. canepa stated the Departllent of Real Estate and the lenders are involved in this aspect of the project and 50 percent of the anbninilmS at line would have to be sold in order fcx any of that groop to close escrow. If sanethirig happened that the rondaniniuns did oot all sell, the renunder would become a hotel with 8Cllle owners in specific lmits. Chris 5'11,.,........ explained that when the first ti.me share project app!:oached the City, staff had the same oonoerns, and cmpiled a lot of inforlll!ltioo. 'ftlere is a risk ele.nt, but these q,erators have very good trade reoords. Plarming ca.issioo approved the NE.qative Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopted the following Resolutioo: RIBUJ'l'IClf I«). 2331, m:x:MUHlm'.. APPl0\1AL Cf' A Tllft7d'IVB Sll>IVIS!Clf ~ POR 56 CXHnmmM lfiITS Qi 1. 56 ACRBS Cf' Pl01!SRrx GPJmW.I.Y LOCATED Qi 'lBE FAS!' SIDB at CARLSBAD EDlLEVARD BE'lW'J!M PINE AVEKJE HE 1WH71'AVDl:JB. APPBJl7AL Cf' IESIQl RBVIBW ~ MDIJl'BS: The Minutes of. the Design Review Board Meeting of July 11, 1984, -.en, clR)tOlled as presented. The Minutes of. the Design Review Board Meeting of Augwst 8, 1984, were approved as pr-eeented. ~ lbltx>tis Bollw!s Marcus Schlehuber PLNtiDl, loltlotis Schlehuber Slldth Marcus Farrow Mc!'adden ~ lat>otis Bolaee Marcus Schlehuber McCo)' lat>otis BolJlles Marcus Schlehuber @ X X X X X X - X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES Septed:)er 12, 1984 By~ 110tia,, the Design Review Board adjourned at 7:55 p.m. NJ!N PlELIC BIWU!G>: 3. SP-191 -SCHM::RBE:K. This item was continued to Septeii6er 26, 1984. 4. ZC-308/CT 84-11/CP-283 CARLSBAD BF.1tCB RACaJE'l' CI.OB. This itea was continued to Septellber 26, 1984. 5. CT 84-7/CP--276 -IA <XSTA RACaJE'I' CI.OB -Request fer a tmitative tract mp and ooncbiiinllJII permit for 496 units a, 34 acres located east of Rancho Santa Pe Road and south of the future extensia, of La Costa Avenue in the P-C 2lOne. Charles Grial, Principal Planner, gave the presentatia, on this item as oontained in the staff report, using a transparency to show the site. Be used wall charts to soow the q>erl areas and recreatimal facilities. In respa,se to <p!ry, Mr. GriMn said a statement regarding 'fN stcrage area would be in the CCR 's. Cc:adssia,er McFadden asked oow llllch eicroachment into the Stageooach perk area existed, and Mr. Gri.al stated approxilately a,e acre. Chaicmn Rmbotis q>erled the public hearing at 8:00 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Jilll Goff, representing Dacrl Corporatiai, 8ddressed the C<wlll1sst.oo, stating the ally exoeptia, to staff .. ea:wrdatia,s was the ncm-rei.JlbJrseaent fac the eectia, of street oot in fratt of applicant's project, but wiich BJSt be 1.aproved ~ them. Be iented to go at reo::,rd as objecting to that. 'ftlat is Ccnlitian 32 a. Mr. Goff delineated the .-nitiee for the project and stated the open apace would be six t.1aes that required. This would also acid m acreage to Statecoach Park. It would take three er four yura to build all the units, but the street ~co-. nt:s will cane with the first }ilase. Mr. Goff stated the grading proposal would oot decrease SrJ uaable park facilities. Mr. Bob Ladwig, Ridt Engineering, put~ a llllll exhibit -atDting the bcJurmry and prcpoaed 28 acres for 8~ Padt. '1'he slope will go cb,n to the perk, 100 f•t into the park, and when the perk is developed, 8CIII fill will be required in the lower area. After the grading is CDll)leted, there will be less than cne acre intruaion. Be stated the IR)licant would prefer the ~ ty line to be at the tq> of. the slope. l'IOweYer, tbe «lge will be illproved with dr'ainage and the City would have to do this if the bank were pulled off of. the park ~t.y. 'lhia is eolving a problem for the City that they would have had to eolve in the future. Mr. Lldrig r:.tated there we oo intrusia, into the play azeM. MINUTES Septelltler 12, 1984 Page 6 Since no a,e else wished to speak al this it.en, the public t:estbaly was ooncluded at 8: 11 p.m. Coai.ssimer Marws a:aaented al the low density am the fact. that the Parle I:>epartEnt approved of this. She stated the developer was giving the City a lot of illprc:M!ments. o,-:1 ssiooer McFadden stated her ooncem atout losing the park land. Chairman Rollb:>tis stated if the fill were puled to the boundary, m land would be lost than the va'f it is teOC--nc.'led ro,. ca-1 ssiooer McFadden stated the City should be reillbursed frr the lost park land. Mr. Bob Ladwig ar.....a.ed, stating the City was losing an acre a,d gaining $300,000 worth of inpt:'oveEnt, which is ~ird of the lllllJWlt in the park-in-lieu fee aooount at the present tiae. o-w-issiooer McFadden said oaa, would have to cb the drainage work 1ilhether er not there was a park, a,d the City should be c:x:.-pe..iated. Mr. Ladwig indicated al the nap where the water drains as of today, wrlch is all al park land, am the existing drainage channel is within the park area. He stated the applicant would have no abligatial to install the drainage i.q;rovements. ca.iuiooer McFadden expressed the belief that this ita should be oontinued IZltil the Parks am Recreatioo eo-tssitJn a:msidered this. Mr. Goff stated the City ro, has 16 acres of park land, am the awlicant feels they have mde a good faith effort frr accelerated park dedicatioo. 82 mentioned the ezchange of. deeds frr the west end of Stageooach for the east end to facilitate b.lilding the recreatimal ueu and~ there is a graded, oiled road free Rancho &ante Pe to the City's project. This is their napcnae to the needs of the City. 'l'he Coaaisaiooers all stated they had net with Mr. Goff 8111! other 1ep::wdntatives, oot nothing transpired in tboee aaetingll that had not been a:,vered this evening. Cbaiman Rclll:lotis aked Parks and Recreetioo Director owe ar.tat:reet llbet:her he felt this was a fair tradeoff and Mr. Braltatreet said it was. CcwetNitJner Mc:f'adlien miked whether the Parlts Md Recreation ca-1Mim thought this a fair tradeoff, am llr. Bralltreet --•lid this had not (J:lne before the ec--tutm. Thia wa a staff level decisioo. Ccweiu~ Nc:Pllctien ac5e a mtioo to oontinue this ita until the Padts and Recreation eo.d.ssioo had c:,cnaidKet! it. NDticn died flr ladt of a aeoond. MINUTES Septellber 1 2, 1 984 Page 7 Planning Cow1saim adopted the following Resolutic::st: RISCUJ'l'IQif II). 2341, IB'.DNH)D«; APPRJVAL CF A '1W'rATIVE 'lW£."I' ~ HE CI.RX>IDmJII PEMIT ~ 496 CHI'!S Qif 3' ACRES Qif PK>PEkfi' camRAILY I.£XM'PD P'AS'l' CF iWl'.lll SM1m PB KW> HE 9:X1ffl CP '!BE PlfflJRE Ell'l'!NSICJf CF IA cx:mA AVPJEE. RID!SS: Cba1rwm Rcax>tis declared a reoess at 8:20 p.m. and the ca-:1 ss lat ~11eued at 8: 26 p. m. with sil: ow-1 ssioners present. 6. r.c-278 -CARUmAD L1H> Df./FS.la6 -Preannexatianal zone dianrje fuii cnmty agrlcii!ture une (E-1-A) to City R-1-7 ,500 and 00 a:nes ai 85 acres located sooth of Palamr Airport Road and east of Laurel Tree Lane. Charles Grba, Principal Planner, ga,,e the report ai this it.ea as <Dntained in the staff rep:,rt, using a tranaparenc.y to show the~ q>en space and prq,oeed single faily resi.dentW une. Chainan Rcax>tis asked whether the line between the 00 and the RS ws ~tely the 65 decibel level for- the airport noise, and staff stated this 111!18 determined by a C.amty ap based ai the noise and d:ine l:7j CNEl.. and not a single e11ent. Ow.~ Rcax>tis q,ened the r;:ublic hearing at 8: 30 p.111. md issued the invitatim to speak. Mr. Don Agatep, representing the aR)liCStt, spoke to the Ccw-1 ssim, stating this was a reascmable use of the land, with the resi.dentW area south of the iaginary line between the 00 and R-1 , • deterained l:7j the acat recent noise <Dntours generated l:7j the airport. Be referred to a gnrphic depicting the dewlopable area in the R-1 area and the area iJlpacted by the airport noise. Mr. Agatep stated that of the 20 acres cpen apace, five er six acres I01ld be deve).opable. A cpeatic::st ws asked regarding the beli~ ooise, and Mr. Agatep stated Hughes I01ld be 11:Wing within the next yar md a bal..f and I01ld not bpect this ~ject. Since no me elae wi.abed to apeak ai this it.ea, the pmlic teatiaar.f -ooncl.uded at 8:35 p.a. 'l'be CJllller-al.l density ws figured l:7j staff at 5.2 demity, ming the de9elopable area. Cow1Mf.c:Jnff Sdllebuber stated be a.q:pxted the project now md be bad not before, and he did not support the ca. PiJnling Cow1Mi'ln 6(4,WW:d the Notice of Pricx Cmplianoe laued by the Lin! Dae Plaming Manager and adcpted the fol.lowing Reeol.utic::st: RIIIXDl'JXIII ID. 2344, IK'.3SLLIR; APPIDl7AL CF A 1DiE W nii( d&fi IIGRia:JI.fllaB DIE (B-1-A) '10 Ciff IH- 7,500 All> aJ QI 85 .MW CF PlQiBkl'x Gl!NElWLY UXM'PD 8001B CIP P1WRR AIRPtRr KW> 1H> &\81' CF IMlRBL 'IH!B i.-. lblll:Jot:is ~let,nt,e,- Smth lllllrol8 Farrow Mc:f'adden a:aiotia SchlebJber am.th llarCm hrrow Nd"adaen 6) X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES Septeaber 12, 1921 Page 8 7. er 8-4-10/CP-277 -SPYG[AS.5 FOINI'E -Request foe awrova1 of a tentative subdivision IIBp and roncbninil.llll permit to develq> 80 units oo the oorth side of AliC'Ulte Road, east and west of Altiva Place in the RD-fl 7Jalt. Catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner, gave the staff presentatioo as rontained in the staff rep::,rt, using a transparency to show the site. Chairman Raltx>tis cpened the public hearing at 8:38 p.m. am issued the invi tatioo to speak. Mr. Ken Chriss, Architect representing Hugh Hearne, addressed the ca.ai.ssioo stating the applicant coocurs with staff report. Chairman Roatx>tis asked Mr. Olriss whether the 4Plicant would object to a CDlditioo being added to allow the Planning camrl.ssioo to awrove the landscaping, and Mr. Chriss said he WOL · 3 not. All ec-issicr-ers had net with Mr. Olriss, but oothing was discussed that was not a,vered taiight. Mr. Bill Deering, President of Hcmeowners Associatioo, ~410 Altism Way, expressed roncern about how ouch encroachment into the waterway that goes along the westerly site tourdary. Miss Nicholas stated devel~t would cooform to the existing pad and not encroach. In answer to questioos regarding the l:llildilll] heights, she stated the l:llildings varied fran a,e to three stories. Since no a,e else wished to speak oo this item, the public testi.Jlaty was coocluded at 8:44 p.m. Planning Coamission approved the Negative Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and aoopt.ed the following Resolutioo: RFSJI.m'I(Jq ?D. 2343, !B::X:_..FJiDlX; APPHJIIAL CF A 'l»lI'ATIVE SOiEIVISI(Jq ~ HI> ~ ~ POR 80 alI'l'S ~ 4. 7 ACRES CF PHJPERN <BmlWLY I.DCATED ~ 'lHE MJR:m SIDE OF IU.ICAN!'E JON), FAST MD WEST CF ALTIVA PLACE. Added oonclitim: Planning camrl.ssioo to review landscape plan. 8. er 83-18~55 -CAIAVERA BILIS VIJ..lllGP, B -· Request fer at ..=iinl t tentative l.cact nap l!ID3 pla.-med uni t develqment m 64 acres in the rorthwest corner of the calavera Bills Master Plan area. Charles Grima, Principal Planner, gave the presentatioo CXl this item as a:intained in the staff report, lJSing a transparency showing the site and wall exhibits sllc:Jwm3 the proct.ict type and the topography. He atlled attentioo to the D!lll:xandum dated today with changes in Resol.utim No. 2342. Mr. Grilllll a:included, stating the pr:mict type <bes meet the intent of the design criteria of the crdinanoe. Chainan Radx>tis cpened the public hearing at 8: 50 p.111. and issued the invitatioo to ~- lad::lotis X Sdllehuber X X Smith X Marcus X Parrow X Mdl'adden X MINUTES Septelllber 12, 1984 Page 9 Mr. Anthcny Bonfcrte, Vice-President of calavera Rills Ccllplny, 110 W. C Street, San Diego, addressed the Ccmissioo, stating he had read the menorardml dated today with the conditioo changes and oona.irred with those changes. He stated the developed area of Village H '°11.d consist of approximately 18 acres, which would be less than cne third of the ~. 'ttlere '°11.d be two distant neighborhoods, each with its own recreatioo center, and Mr. Bcrtforte p,inted out these areas oo a wall mp. Be indh:ated the recreatioo vehicle st.or-age area, wiich ends ~ in Village R, but is -nt part of it. Mr. Bonforte referred to a wall 1111p shoting all of Village B and another drawing oouble scale of the first drawing. He stated that Elm Avenue divide::: the area into two porticns. 'ttlere would be an 18-foot nedian to preserve the eucalyptus trees. Re stated 100 trees will remain. 'ffle atl.y crnditioo Mr. Bonforte d:>jected to was Engineering Sectioo 36, beginning oo page 7 and oonti..nuing oo page 8: added conditioos j, k and 1. Be went to Master Plan Amendnent No. 150(P) Map, shoting the streets involved, stating the o:indi ticns call for-the developer to illproYe the extensioo of Tamaradc, Elm and Glasgo,,, and they are oot part of Village R, and not part of this project. Elm fran Tamaradc to College is a conditioo of Village It: Talllaradc to Elm, Village G, and at this p,int to iap:lee these en the developer, Mr. Bcnforte stated was unfair and out of crder. Be concluded, stating their attorney was present and prepared to disruss that. caaisslooer Schlehuber asked aoout the 40-foot E!!lt>ankaent, and wt¥:> lO.lld take care of that. Mr. Bcnforte used the wall dlart to indicate the slqle '°11.d not exceed two to cne slope and the lxlneowners associatien will take care of that. Sale of the bank will be left natural, and the slopes will be landscaped and irrigated. Mr. Oiarles B. Cllristensen, 444 west c street, suite 404, san Diego, spoke en behalf of the llR)licant. He adl!ressed conditioo 36, j, k and 1, stating the Master Plan had a definite phasing requirement and this was unfair to RqUire this off~i te develc:pnent. Mr. Christensen urged the Ccadssioo oot to approve those ocnlitioos. Assistant City Attcrney Dan Bentscbke stated there is a provisioo in the Master Plan allowL"lg fer accelerated public facilities requirements. At the ti.E Village G went in, Fr2 was a a:i.ercial site and lO.lld have been develq>ed by trivate develqlers. It is now a park site. Under the Master Pun, the p.lblic facilities will be installed by the developer, and it also provides that when and if the City P.ngineer deter:mil..es that streets are neoeasary outside of the phasing schedlle, they can be RqUired. 'ttlis developer said this is ool his probl•, but that of llllOther Master Plan developer. '.the deYelq,ers -.Jreed when they ?,Irchased the ptopert}• and haw mi c:t>ligatioo to the fulfillment of the Master plan and coq>erate vi.th each other in provisioo of p.lblic facilities. 'ftlat c:t>ligatioo is clearly spelled 'Jllt in the Master Plan. © MINUTES Septelllber 12, 1984 Page 10 Mr. Bentschke stated the City F.ngineer feels there is a need to install the streets around the City park and there is a need to develq, that park acrording to the Director of Parks and Recreatioo. Be added that perhaps ooets for Cesoo could be recovered fran Pacific Scene. Tamaradt adjacent to Village G was rot inpoeed oo Pacific Scene at that time. When Pacific Scene rones badt for other approvals, that a:ndi tioo ney also be placed en them. Mr. Marlt caruana, 2839 Hillsboro Court, Attorney and hcaeowner, stated he was a::nfused by these naps. Mr. Caruana lives at the Crest. Re stated this 1111P was a picture-an artist's rendering-not realistic. Be presented ?l()togra(XlS for the Camri.ssioo to study. Mr. Caruana stated the transparency ooesn't show 108 hclles on tq> of this develCJEa!Ot the eucalyptus trees. Re stated his cxinoern ab:lut the trees and the fact that those trees could be lost. Mr. Caruana said you can't stq> growth-but he ,ented planned growth-and he felt thie 1110Ul.d rot be of benefit to Carlsbad. Mr. Caruana stated his request was biofold~, ocnsider the anount of infor:matioo available to you at this time to IIBke a valid decision and, bio, postpcne a decisioo oo this and oonsider the environnental i.npact. Chaiman Rad:x,tis asked Mr. caruana whether he was shown the Master Plan when he prrchased his heme, and he stated he was told this 1110Ul.d be (l)E!fl canyai and the trees 1110Ul.d be a visual dividing line. Attentia, was called to bio ?l()tographs, ale showing the density of the trees and ale showing the row of trees. A ~th hcmeowner addressed the cannissioo, giving n>re pictures to the cannissicners for their perusal, and stating a ~enilD price was paid for that heme and view and that is oow in jeq,ardy, with ooly the sewage plant left to view. Mr. Zygaunt Dubiel, 2837 Hillsboro Court, asked the Ccmllissioo to a:x1Sider the aesthetics, and used the wall mp to indioate the mp ooes rot show the I,Xlysic:al beauty of the canym. Re indicated where the sevage plant is located and su.::.ed he did rot believe the City would (l)E!fl that road to ac-oess by the sewage plant. Mr. Dubiel stated there 1110Ul.d be a amgestioo probl~ as there is rot as auch (l)E!fl space as indicated oo the chart. Be felt the project should ::ie discarded, as the density is too high. Mr. Bob Mdlenald, 2832 Hillsboro Court, addressed the cam:issioo, stating they had been told the trees 1110Ul.d reain ~ they prrchased their hcl!le. Be said they bought there because of the wildlife. If the trees are taken oot, thf' birds will no longer have any hemes. Mrs. Linnea McOc:nald, 2&32 Hillsboro Court, spake, stating they are first-time hcmeowners, and felt it was a shame to cut chm the trees. MINUTES Septerber 12, 1984 Page 11 Dot-is Doolittle, stating she was just closing escrow a, her hane, aslted what Jd.oo of rousing would be tuilt in this project. Ms. Doolittle was shown the drawings of the product types a, the wall chart. She stated she was looking focvard to the trees and the views. Mr. Tan Planagan, 2752 Banff, addressed the Cannissia,, stated his CXJncem about the trees. He asked the ca.dssiai to defer this item. Mr. Planagan stated he wants all the trees preserved, and he felt if the peq>le in the Cola,y were .ware of this hearing, they would all be here. Mr. Balforte spalte in respaise to the testi.aaly given and stated the access to the fN park will be the road that goes to the sewage plant and will be ~ for access to the fN park. Mr. Balforte gave the density figures for the other villages and stated thi s village would be 1. 3 units to the acre, whidl is less than half of arrt existing density. They are develq>ing less than cne third of the property. The canyai will remain the greatest portiai at both en3s. Be said the 100 trees referred to are in the median tip-the trees a, the bank ab:>ve the area will, for the IIC6t pan, remain, and arourx'I the sewage plant, all the trees will be preserved. Mr. Bc:nforte concluded, stating they were rot ignoring the envircnaenW factors, and there 1«JUld be nore trees replaced than taken out. He did rot lm:Jw the exact nlllltler of trees to be renoved. Since no cne else wished to speak a, this item, the public testiJlaly was CXJncluded at 9:38 p.m. In J:eSIXlllSe to a guestia,, Olarles GriJrrn stated it was hq>ed the two developers of the Master Plan area would work oot a a::apranise a, the inprovements. Walter Brown said leverage would a:ne free the fact of a new subdivisiat having the s.-e CXX'lditioo-for all landowners to take care of. The questiai was asked how this oould be mre equitable and how oould the developer get his m:ney bade. The Assistant City Attorney stated the Master Plan is one project-two peopl e-using subdivisiai llllp6 to trigger the lllptolla&ieu the ~ the City thought best as the a:iney becal! available. This was all cne project and the CX)8ts were allocated between two developers. Be stated he was aide ware of the accelerated requirements this week-and there is oo answer at this time. Staff would CXa! l,t> with a re&salable solutiai in a rouple of W'!eka. Staff also is to attadl CXX'lditicns frx the reminder of. the Master Plan and will require this. The Parlt Direct.c:x-says the City needs the park. Chairan Ralbotis suggested aa:Ung •un1ess otherwise apptowd by the City Engineer• to the CXX'lditia,. It was also suggested to add, •and the Land Use Planning Direcbr•. O:wdssiaier Marcus a:mnented she was pleased the applicant ezplained to the people that there had been a lot of enviraaenW study a, that area. @ MINUTES Septentier 12, 1984 Page 12 Chairan Ralbotis added there was a detailed EIR and llll1'1Y oours spent a, this project. and the trees were addressoo. It was kro,m that Elm would i.npact the area, but i t took pl"iority. Planning Camri.ssia, approved the Negative Declaratia, issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopted the following Resolutiai: REOOU1l'I(N N). 2342, REQ'.MIIIENDIK; APPRJ\TAL OP AN 8Hfi!T TEJrl'M'IVE 'lWtCT '9J> Ni) PINttlED tllIT DE.VEIDPMffi'I' CN 64.2 ACRE.5 OP PR::>PERT.i GmERALLY I..OCATED IN 'IEE N)RfflWEST (X)RNER OP 'IEE CAI.AVERA RILLS W\STER PIAN ARP.A . Cooditicri the Engineering COnditia, 36 to add •un1ess otherwise apptOYed by the City F.ngineer and the Land Use Planning Directoc•. Also including the oonditia, changes a:ntained in the llleh-orandum to the Planning Ccmni.ssia, dated today. Planning CClll!li.ssia, to review landscaping to soften the visual i.npact and lessEn the i.npact of the tree renoval. Ca!lnissialer Marcus left the meeting at 9:50 p.m. 9. CT 84-23~71/SDP 84-8 -fflE MEAIOIS -Request for a 223-lot324 unit tentative tract mp and planned devel~t and site developnent plan located awroximately 500 feet south of the intersectia, of Melrose Avenue and Alga Road in the RD-M zaie. Catherine N idlolas, Assistant Planner, gave the presentatia, a, this item as cx,ntained in the staff report, using a transparency to show the site. Chairman Ra!b::>tis opened the public hearing at 9:55 p.m. and issued the invitatioo to speak. Mr. Barry Be"'1er, Ride F.ngineering, representing the developer, addressed the Ccmnissioo, stating they concurred with the <Dnditioos. Since no a,e else wished to speak a, this item, the public testi.Jn:riy was a:ncluded at 9: 56 p. m. Planning Cclllnissioo approved the Negative Declarati.al issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopted the following Resolutioos: RBSOU1l'I(N N).2347, m:IMimR>n«; APPRJI/AL OP A 223 Wl'/324 tliIT 'ffN'l'M'IVE 'lWCl' Kt.P AR) PLNHD tllIT DEVEID£IMENl' CN PKIPBkl'I CBIERALLY LOCATED APPRJXI19.TELY 500 FEET s:xmt OP 'IHE INI'ERSEC'l'I(N OP AWA KW> 111:> MEl'.lO;E AVFXJE. RB9'.>U1l'ICIQ N). 2350, APPKNDI:, A SITE IEVEI.DPMmr P1NJ l«>. 84-4, POR A 104-0NIT AP~ PlnJECT CN PR::>PERT.i Gl!NERALLY LOCATED CN 'IHE M'.:>Rl'B SIDE OP 'IEE PU'IURE Cx»Ulft'IA Sl'REE'1' APPRJXIMM'ELY 500 FEET WEST OP f£I.K6E AVFXJE. !arbotis X Schlehuber X Smith X Marcus X Parrow X X McFadden X latx)tis X Schlehuber X Smith . X Farrow X X McFadden X @ MINUTES P~ <DIO'.SSI~ Septesitier 1 2, 1 984 Page 1 3 10. ZCA-175 -CITY ae CARLSBM -A prcposed amendment to the zailng Ordinance to permit displaying offsite directiooal infot:Ntioo for subdivisioos located in the City cf O!rlsbad. Charles Gri.Ja, Principal Planner, gave the presentatioo en this it.en as oontained in the staff report, giving a brief slide pt"e&entatioo showing the other a:mrunities that are using offsite subdivisioo signs. 'lbe type of sign proposed was shown and a graphic showing the dimensioos of the sign. The City Attorney's office had roncerns with this type of program, thin.~ing it might jeopardize the offsite sign prohibitioo or'dinance. Bowever, if it were directiooal and oot advertising, that would help protect the City's prc,hibitioo ordinance. There would be kiosks throughout the City and space would be leased by developers oo iooividual panels. All signs would be alike. Staff asked for a reromendatioo fran the Planning Ccadssioo to be awro-Jed by City Council oo the Ordinance, the kiosk design and kiosk locatioo map. Another transparency was used to show the prcposed locatioos throughout the City for the signs. Approval of the sign would be bf the Land Use Planning Manager, and leases IIIOOld be for me year. There will be space oo the sign for the City logo oc identificatioo at the top, and ooe space would be left for a:mamity use. 'ffle Ordinance is teaporary in nature Uld there would be a sunset clause oo the ordinance, whi ch would expire oo January 1, 1990. The City Council 'lf8'j establish another ?Jblic or cpasi- public agency to handle the leasing and oonstructioo of kiosks and the leasing of the panels. 'n'lis will be l eft open in the ordinance. In the padtet, there are two ordinances, Exhibit B and E:dlibit A, (staff's proposed ordinance). One najoc differenoe---size of signs. A larger sign is proposed far: •jo!: intersectiam-1110llld be 10 ft. and others would be -.ller-60 inches in width. 'lbe Planning Ccalissioo is to determine whether the ordinance is neoessay, and if so, is it acceptable. Staff is asking for the ec..Rissioo to IIBke a rea:mnendatioo oo t:oth the design of the kiosks and the locatioo plan. St.aff recxmaends ~t0val of Exhibit A. Chairman Raltlotis suggested there be cne sign with a width of 5 feet. CGwaiYiooer HcFadden questicned they iooicated directiooal signs installed and staff stated this ,-as an oversight in drafting the ordinance. 'ffle Attorney will add a definitioo of a:mm.m.ity directiooal s igns--they will be included. Chairman Raltlotis q>ened the ?Jblic hearing at 10: 1 3 p.m. and issued the invitatioo to speak. @ MINUTES ~ CDl(ISSIOl Septent>er 12, 1 984 Page 1 4 Since oo ooe wished to speak en this item, the ?Jblic testimny p:,rtioo was closed. Callllissialer Farrow asked about the rost of the lease and staff answered between $60 to $100 per nonth. In answer to query as to whether these s igns are necessary, staff said the developers feel sanething is needed, and this IIIOUld be better than oothing. 'lllis would be a need the City IIIOUld be satisfying without any CDSt to the City. Planning camri.ssioo approved the Negative Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and cd)pted the following Resolutioo: RFS:>UJrIOl 00. 2346, REO'.M4ENDIN'.i APPIOVAL OF A lLNE aDB AMENIJl!ENl', NEi:>IN'.i TITLE 21 BY 'IHE NDITIOl CF, CHAPTER 21 . 4 1 • 076, 'ID '!BE O\RI.SBAD fllJNICIPAL ODE, 'ID F.STABLISH PRJVISIOlS FOR A '1D!PORARY DIREX:.'TICNAL SI~ Pll:XiRAM FOR &JBDIVISIOlS. Including Exhibit A, and 10 ft. by 60 incties and locatioo nap. 1 1 • ( CUP-9 ) &Um CXlAST A.5PHALT Catherine Nicholas, Assistant Planner, gave the staff report a, this item, using a transparency to show the project site. If the Planning Ccmnission CDllSiders this oonsistent with the ClJP, oo actioo is necessary. The oonsensus of the Planning Ccmnissioo was to take n::, actioo en this item. 12. REXlOFSl' FOR VARIANCE FI04 EN:i!NEERIN'.i S'l'ANlY\ROO - PUJm ~Ol. walter Brown, Engineering, gave the staff report a, this item, usm; transparencies to show the ptoperty and the slope of the driveway. 'Ille aaplicatia, for variance nust be reviewed by the Planning camdssioo and the five findings nust be lll!lde. 'lllis driveway would have a 251 grade and 201 is the maxinum under the standards. Engineering staff recamends denial, finding no reascri to grant this variance and conpelling reaacns mt to grant it. Mr. Cl'luck Davis, Eso::ndioo, representing the ~licant, spoke in favot" of this request, stating the mly 'tR!l'f to provide the driveway was the grade of 251. Re llSed a transparency shawm; the lot and stated he felt it was an tnl8Ual lot, created in 1972, and at that ti.me, the 251 grade Vll8 allowed. Re gave copies of two standard drawings to the Colllaissiooers, ale being fran the County of. san Diego and ooe fraa Eso::ndido. (Minutes cleric did not get a CXJP.r') Be referred to the handout and explained that there is a flat spot at the top of the driveway to enable a car to sit and view the traffic before exiting the driveway. Jan PlUlllb, General Cootraactor, representing the owner, spoke, statm; two reguin!ments, t1 and t4, that Engineering oould not find, could be found. '11'1at prq,erty is ale of mly four lots that have that partiotl.ar situatioo. IO!tx>tis X Schlehuber X X Smith X Farrow X McFadden X , - MINUTES Septamer 12, 1984 Page 15 COMMISSIONERS One alternative the engineer pointed oot was to increase the land fill. Be gave oot cq>ies of a dr•ing. (Na'le to the Minutes Clerk) 'Ibis showed retaining walls and fill-whidl would be cx:,stly and not aesthetically pleasing. '!his would result in 600 feet of. retaining wall ala,g the oottan of the lot. Mr. Pllalb felt their reCXllllel'ldatioo was far better, having an additicmal 51 steep,ess in the driveway than the adcliticmal 1/DtW!'f to raise the pad and have the 1r1Pleasing retaining wall. Planning ec-i.BSioo lade the five findings necessary to grant the variance requested for Lot 480, La Costa Vale, Unit 13, Venado Street, La Costa, for grade of driveway. The Minutes of the August 8, 1984, Meeting were ~ as presented. The Minutes of the August 22, 1984, Meeting were arrried over to the next neeting, as there were oot enough Ccmnissialers present to vote as a quorum. 'n\ere was a dis01SSioo aoout manging the time of the Planning Com1ssioo neeting to 6:00 p.m., with a decisioo to have the Land Use Planning Manager and the Cczmmity Redevelq:ment Manager disruss this. Staff was directed to write a Resolutioo for retiring Cca!li.ssiooer Rawlins. ~= By ErOPeI" 11Dtioo, the JEeting of. Septelltler 12, 1984, was adjoumed at 10:43 p.m. Respectfully sutnitted, ' MID Land tJse Planning Manager Harriett Babbitt Mimtes Clerk MBBI:ua; ARE ALOO 'mPm> JH> ltEPT CN FILE tm'IL '!BE MlRJ'1'l!'S ARE AP'PHJVl!D. loltlotis Schlehuber smith Farra, Md-'adden loltlotis Sdllehuber Smith Farrow Md-'adden X X X X X X X X X X X X