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NNtingof1
Jlate of Mleting1
Tia of Maetingt
Place of Meeting 1
MINUTES
PLARlillD a:MIISSiai
CC1'CID 24, 1984
6100 P.M.
City Cl:Jmcil ChmliJera
'ftw ...ung wu Clll.led to cxder by Olainmn RaliJot:.ia at 6:00
P.M.
Olai.nmn lalilotis, 0:llllli.saia'lers
Marcua, Farrow, Sdllehubar, ~.
Sllli.th and L'Heureux.
Q:nmi saianars Farrow and Sdtl.elwber
arrived late.
Bill Hofman, Principal Planner
Charl.88 Grilllll, Principal Planner
Welter Brown, Civil Engineer
Brad 'ftlerri.m, Princ:i.piu Civil Engineer
Midlael. Bo] mi J ler, Land Use Pl..annin3 Manager
Ez-Officio Mld>ers Preaerrt.:
Dan e.ntac:Hta, Aaaistant City Attorney.
ai-!l::an lkllbotia mun.mead the Pl..annin3 CClnaiM'lai
~ .,.. being lbcwn al a tnmapanncy and aaJced the
eudimce to apaxi a faw minutes read.iDJ it.
PUIIXiB f:. ~ ,.. led by Clai.rrmn loli:lot.is.
l. SP-191 -1i1M1Y am& SPICU'IC PLNi -A ?981.dentia.l. spedllc pl.mi al ~y eoo acre. of popezty located
...th of future OnDl ~. eaat. of future Ool.lege Avenue,
DCEth of the 8unDy Creak l::d.ological habitat md Wll8t of the
DaMan Bcologi.0111 PreNrva.
Bill lloalan, Principal. Planner, ~ the Pl •ming
OJwlvian tbat this it.a ,.. aJDt.im-1 fan the Planning
Olwf.eeian wting of s.ptat,er 26, 1984 with clirect.iai to
-1rla a Dllblr of aDdifi.aat..i.a to the apecific plan lhich
__.. Jalla aJd are DCW ...-ru.i in the staff report.
Spec1 fimJ ly, the dlenrJee ares
1) 'Iba ncctba:n mn\ery of the apec1ftc: plan wa realigned
to !ollaw the ridgeJhw ruming tbrough Kelly P10p■1ty1
2) 'b wlaiwa Jot. aiM .. c:t,,mgc t£aa 10,000 aq.ft
wiDiMW tx, 1/2 11CE9 aise wdn1aaz
3) 'Ille Ntmdca haft bMll 1WYiNd t:o cxmfum to the l'IIA.f lot
aiaa~J
4) 'Iba atnet. illpo.~tl lltandarda law bem rwiNd to
1nc:rraae the ril#lt--of--w;y md aJ1b the aJ1b width to
IIOl--dMrte pUking an ane aide of the atrut:. ..S elao
__.. Wl"9 lade a~ an ell ~,
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5) A p:,:wi.8ial l'Ba bNll added that alopae of 251 or mre
cannot m graded: am
6) A ruitJer of clerical and minor n!Yiaia18 to the tat hive
beal lll!IISe and are ccntained in the namrand\D puNd art:
taught.
Aa a final note, ~. 11:>fJan addeci that the a:ncept. of the
dmaity tranaitial fran the Mllrdima Property toiarda Q>llege
Boul.vard and 0lmD:I Road will r.ain the -·
o:-duioner Smith Mltad il a fauibility study,... lll!IISe a1
a pou1 ble aouthmn acceu through Smny creek art: altO P!l
caaino Ral.
waiter 8J:cwrl, Civil EnginNr ~ that a terrain to the
ncc1:heut of El Claino RNl. fall.a vvy rapidly, bJt oo
ai-cific ~ have ma'l p:-epere:i at this ti.a.
Pmll a p)NYlir"J point of vi.,, ~-8:>fslllln irdicated that thay
waild diaccurage my acoeu. Staff felt that aw of the g:>od
&.tuna of the llpEific plan a that there will not be
~ traffic became traffic 'tOlld all.y 'be a:min.;i frail
eitbar College er canncn. nw accaaa £ran College am ~
wculd be m than mcugtt for thia area and there a not a
Mm to go to the aouth thrQql the S\Zllly Creek Biological
ara.
In nepa--to Plaming ca-d u;.an cpary, a.ni.aai.oner
SdwhJber IIBde a a::tial to r90pSl the hMring with direct.ial
that thia it.a be tWl0t.ioed for plblic hearing for the
Yowlll:Jer 28, 1984 -ting.
2, CJP-259 -PIICIFIC .BBU, -Raque8t for approval. to
cx:imtruct an elact:.ronic ~ mcloaure to b::Juae
electrc:n1c tel.9lphcne 4q1Ji~ an iroperty ganerally located
al Lagocn Lane juat aouth of Daisy Awnue,
With the aid of a trwpanocy, Cllarlie Grua, Principe]
Plamar gave the staff ~ti.al euentially u c:r.ct.al.'led
intbe ataff raport.
o-duia,er Saith &akad il the s:i.da.alk 'tOlld raain. In~---, Olarlie GrlaR indicated that thia IEOject 'tOlld
bll Nt wt af tM :aiJ3• iallt lllbaJt 25 feet, ~. Gr1-~
t:oat the IR)limnt 1a being AqUired to amit an irrigatial
and Jw.-.pe plan a:> if my axlificaticma, if oeoee■uy,
will be -=-i an the plan,
~ IU'lidden inquired il thia ei.ctroni.c ~tua
will ,;Wl8nte my noiN er il there will be my int..erferema.
with telavi.aial, radio er aizplanea?
In riN£0_., Charlie Grillla stated that he beliewd n:> miae
-,u1,4 occur that '°1ld be a.Jl.igihl.e, bJt felt the IIR)licant
rm14 better r.p:md to thia.
Schl.ehd:ler
Marcus
loltlotis
ti'adden
9nith
L' Heure-.IX
X X
X
X
X
X
X
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a.ita11 lblbot.ia c:pmed the plblic haring m¥1 i.u\81 the
invitat.ian to apeu.
DcXOthy LolM, lbJ.lmer, Pacific Bell, ~ the
Q::wt1••10D in ngardm U.l the atructure. *• l.owia lltat.ed
that the atructure being p:op»6d at thi• looat.ian i9 all
oamt., 3• thidt, includin!J the roof, it hu no Q.lnd ar1d
camot be pamat.rat.ed by a blllat.
Since no a. .i.. wiahad tx> apaak cri thie it.mi, the plblic
tNtialny .... a:n::1.uded.
PlanninCJ oa-1uim ~ the Negatiw Declarat.ian iMmd
by the Land U.. Plaming Manager ar1d adopted the fbllowing
reaolut.ior.,
IIICU11'lClf Ill). 2375, M1PKNI1ll A CDIDITICIIAL t.BE PBllil1'l' '10
.ifi& d&iliLi& <:. M1 !LEl'IOfIC UJ1W JK:I.OaJRB Cl!I
mm: ....,WY UlCMm) (JI '11m fD11'HFM1' CIRD!:R <:. IJUSY
AVIIIJB ME IMD:11 tME.
Dua tx> the great pnpnSarance of. the people for it.mi rult>er
7, Ow1rwn ~. with the Cbaniuiai'• cxincurrence,
aal.led the ital art. of. ord,Jr.
3. 71:A-l 79 -Cl'ff C6 CAA! SVJ) -An _dlmJt tx> the IIXliDJ
or4hm to .i;malt autc:albile dealenl'dpa by ocnditialal
UN pemi.t in any ~~ ~ within aw <parter
.U. of an -.i9ting amwobil• dealenhip amt.er.
0.1J'WD lalbotie -tat.ad tx> the CclllPiHiai that there i9 a
~ flor a cxnt.inuance flor thie it.mi.
Ovd rwn Rolllx>tie indioat.ed tx> the Cc:IIIP1 uiai that thie ita
would be called ciJe tx> t.he grectt llllUlt of. people in the a,.um.
Charlie Gria, Principal Plannar, lltat.ed to t."ie Cc:IIIPi Hiai
that the city ma receive a IUlbar of ~ tnw aar
dial ... to apn4 the car 0:uttq 0ea1en1u.p omtc. ~ of
tha mucne flor th:.&, i9 there are rww dllllll ;:½nhipa e'.dating
eithar in othar plame or ra, autca:i>il• dealerehii:-that
wieb to locate in car1.--.1 ar111 lll0tber ~ a the
llla&lfactunre in aartain auee are mrcing the dealer-to
eplit aieting cntimd dealerehipa ar1d emparata ~-'Iba
•jcr ... ,.,, tng b1odt in •q•ncUP9 car Q:Juntry ia the
~ of ... t1wy lhould fP?
With the aid ot. a t.ranaparancy, Mr. Griai cplained that cp:>d
p]Mming would indicate that thay lhould either apand tx> the
nor:th, aet. er p.aibJy tx> the eouth, 'Iba •jor prob].-with
tbie type of 911pNWi"4'l i9 that thie ar.a i9 in the ooutal
acne IDLI a~ pl.In i9 nquired befora my of the Rcke
piltJplZt.f mo be aq•.W into, and thie i9 about 2 yeara fnw
naw. SDalim "'1.dl <Dltr0l.8 ... of thia ar.a ma indioat.ed
that thay m"N <llt:ha' UNe in alnd for thie p:aputy ancl mt
~ in t!w aqm,aion of car Oomt.ry into that 111--.a. on. bigrJlat ~ in wighing art. the astAr plan p:'O'#iaicn
of tha 00uta1 ca-t Mien wnte to -i9 that the IUlbar ot.
~ are UDllar' ~ ti-. a:matxaint.e. 'Iba pKp)N
of tlll. pq.cwd '9e•t WlUld allow dealenhipe to a:ae in
withia 1/4 .u. of the aietimJ car Q:Juntry. '!hi.a -~t
~ not. eetalblieh my apecific car dealenhilW, all it
Snith X X
Marcus X
Ft:nt>otis X
Farro,, X
Schleh\hn-X
~adden X
L'Heureux X
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wculd cb b eatabliah a general area in ~ch a C!lr
dalenhip could locate and a a:inditional UH ponni.t '°11.d
•till be required fur any 11p9Cific dealership to be located
within thi• ar.a. 'lbe ~ radius l.iru! cbes ext:ad weat.
of I-5 and includM the erlet.ing office and .indwttrlal area
located off of Awnida Enci.nu. 'ftrl• ai:i>licatioo '°11.d allow
for dealenhi.pa to an>lY fur oonditional UH peDllita within
that ana wet of I-5 and IIOUth of cannon Ibid. Staff feel.e,
that if properly deai.grm, it am be very ooq:,atible with
uiatic:g office and immtrial type high-tee!\ l.l!le8. In
regarda to the area llillllllt. of I-5, staff has received a 1ud:Jer
of :Latten in oppoaitioo to thia -dw,t (Terralmr area),
their ain ooooerna in theae letter are the pouible traffic
inpsct.a, ooiH ftaa plblic add.rue systam and alao the
poaaibility of light and glare coning off the dealership lot.a
and reflecting into their naighborh:xxia.
Par the racord, Cl\a.ix-.m lollJotia !Oded that the o::mni.aaioo
WU in nceipt of 75 individual lett.en of q,poeitioo and 21
•~turea ai a petitioo of q,poeitioo.
O::,-juiooer L'Heiureuz felt the camrl.aaioo llhoul.d act oo the
~ fur the oontimJaooe before further a:moenta are
aMreaNd to staff or plblic t:est.i.nDly ie taxen.
Charlie ~ pointed art. that aJDther r8a8al fur the
continuance b that staff ie atill trying to look fbr an
altemative locatioo.
A llDlioo w.a llllde to a:mt.inue this item to the meetiD] of
Yow11t>er 14, 1984.
Cbl1rwm Rr:llboti• uked if anyone in the audience that '°11.d
not m able to aka the aGting of Nc:Naber 14, 1984 to oaae
farwrdandllpMJt.
'1':a Grant., 5051 Awllida Enclnu, Cllrlabed, addrMaed the
ql.lNt.ioo fbr a a::intinuance. Mr. Grant indicated that he did
Ul0t. beocaa ._.. of. thia and felt oertain that ncbJdy tiN
did \Dtil late~ aft.enxlcxl. He elated that there
then a IUlll>el" of. ~ here 'tlllo prt. tbaNlvea art., very
8'Dtant1ally, to aae and addrm tlw 0'.wl1uioo. Ha adt.1eli
that the party that -.s. this awlioatioo,... mt Jr8Plred
ad, t:hlf:d,ae, mUNd tlwN s-cple a very a:mtantial
~. In aancluaion, Mr. Grant. felt that the
ocnt:i.raaa0e of. thia IZ'(Jject ...., mt a i:roper act.
llailay lltlble, ~Terrw ea.owner•• Aaaociat.ial,
at.ate that hi lwid 227 pet.itiana in ulitioo to the a..
noeiwd by the OWduia, and .indicated that he '°11.d be
atta,cUng the licW,.._ 14, 1 ~ wt.ing.
aws,..,. ~ tnr.faired if there ... anybc)4y e1 .. in the
•""4nae a tl\ia tia that w:Jl.lld not ba able to attald the
P)lffling 0---iwian wtJ.ng of. Nc:Nat>er 14, 1984 -aiJna oo
am alee ~ to llpMk en thia it-, the matter wa
ocaal\ded.
L'Heureux X X
Marcus X
lbrboti.s X
Farrc:M X
Schlehuber X
flt::Fadden X
Smith X
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4. SP-23(B)/aJP--246 -tii&lBia BMICDS -Requeat fur IIA)roval
of an -dmltl to a apecific plan and a oonditicma.l. uae
pa-mt to daY9lop an office CDIPlU and mini-.rehouee
projtiet on the rortllilaat amwr of Pueo del Norte am Cmdno
-~Iii Parque in th1 P-C zeme.
Charlie Grial, Principal Planner, with the aid of a
U111l8pUW11CY, ga'YII the ataff ir-entatioo -.ent.i.al.ly aa
containad in the ataff raport.
o:-iHioner smith falt I.DClear about the aent.ence that reads
•at.aft believea that the at.raet syatau aerving the project is
adaquat.e to ~t• all traffic generated~ the~
UN•, and aaked J.f a traffic stui!y had been pnparm for thi•
era.
wait.er Brown, Civil EnginMr, indicated that the city has a
aaiipnhmai.ve traffic aa!y addreuing l'Ult>er of vahicl• oo
all arterial street:a and thia particular arterial etreet WlB
!'Wi-..d .in that aa!y and the l'Uli>er to establish traffic
gsm:atioo rat. ware w:nited out oo the basis of the existing
epw,ific plan.
0:wd •tdon Slaith ~ his an::erns with Wlllt he felt
W9re aerioua irct>l-en Pu«> del Norte and caminito del
P~.
oc.-aiuioner Smith cptOt.iawd if any Ja"CNisiCX18 ..re llll!lde to
opat the at.raet '4> £ran the lino of the ~ a:mplu frcm
ca.inito del Parque to Pueo del Norte.
'Walt.er Brown, Civil Engineer, niepooded that at p:eeent
c..inito de1. Parque ia a 40 I wide o.u:b-1:o-curb at.raet ard the
traffic gmerati.on acceptable level.e of traffic oo th!lt
■u.t wu.ld be '4> to 5,000 vehicl• per day but felt that
tha int.ent1Cti.on ~ handlAI thia mny oar■, but al80 felt
that traffic ganarati.on fraD thie projtlct, being of thia
agnitude, IID1ld cxne in mywtwre cloae to eaturating the
ability of that at.raet to aarry the traffic.
lfalt.er Brom, furt:mr Gp1.ainad that in frart. of the ~
pmject, Pueo dial ll0rte ia iap~ to 64' cmb-tcH:w:b
~ and ■outh ol the project there ia a narTOllllar porticm
of haa) dial llorta. 'ftw iap)eiti.on of ~ta Oil thia
projeat ol illpro,-•~• ~ the at.raet and '4> the at.raet
t:o tm ■outh IID1ld be wry !DJ■lJll.l and 1110Uld n::,t. be the \.U\8.1
dewlc::p,e-requin.nt ■t.andard■ of the city. Pvmlly,
•• IIRM\ fial.t that ■taff cannot find a ju■t.ifioati.on for
tlw iapou-au to be levied again■t. thi■ i;roject.
r.heirwo PIJlboti■ q,a-1 the plblic hearing and~ the
illlri.tatim to lpMlt.
Ouda <llrl■t-..n, ~ Western Bank.en, 8380 Mira
Mar llaad, San Dt..go, CA. 92126. Mr. <llri.aunMn ~uud
CCIIIOlillCll lb0ut. naol.ution m. 2368, ~ 13, page 4,
Um 5, ~ begins •~ of the office oa1p-',u lhall
OCl0UI' oanmrnntly er prlor ~ of the mini-
wnh:luN. II:> aartificat.e of ~ lhall be 1-uet' tx:>
tbl alnl__,.. bauN prior to cmpi.ticn and oocq:9DC)' of the
off1oe C'XJll)lu. • Nr. Olri■t:.mNn further aided that lw
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bellned the inunt of this paragrap1 is p:ci)ably to insure
that tlwy didn't just devel.op a mi.ni-'llm'e h:Juee and then
leaw the project. ea in.iioated that CXJllllit:n&lu wre lll!lde
vabally with the Alta Mira Haaowner'a Aaeoc:i.atial that the
office did up: uct a tuffer be:twun their r.idential area
and the aini-wre hJuae location. Mr. Chri.atmwffl aplained
that the mini."""WU'e lDJM in cxnstructial is going to be of
audl a 1-Nr ruar of m::intha in cxnstructiai am felt that
the 'Janc;page. • vrittrn, is a pmal ty and felt they llh:Juld
lli0ll1t with the lltaff !lld a:.-q> with language that "°'1l.d
inaure that tbay do, in fBct., start the projects
cxncurrant.ly.
Erling Baina, <l\ai.man of the Reference Ccmm.tt.ee -Alta Mira
I Aaaoci.atiai, 829 c.inito del Mar, Alta Mira, carlsbad,
CA. infw:wd the ca-i uioo that their a:mitt.ee net aa wall
u with ~tiva frail Alta Mira to and fur with the
dav9lq,erB ai NYWal. ocoa.siooa. cne reeervatioo they had in
particular wa the a.it <Xlllin3 out a, cami.nito del Parque.
Ma. Babe felt this is a narrow street, there is pu-kin;J a,
both aides of thia atrNt and there are alot of aeni.or
clti.Mna ~ attapt to drive down the middle of the road and
it ia alao a h:>rM llboe street and, therefore, cannot go
any,.bare bit back out alto Paaec> del Norte. MB. Baine
indicated tbay are lq>ing that there will be no a.it fr.::-m
thia ~ and that aufficient a.its -.culd c:x:me fran the
planning wsioo a, Pueo del Norte. MB. Baine alee felt
that thay ...ould like a bl.oc1ced -.11 fence aa well as
landaatping to face their ircperty.
Buold Clarka, 824 caminito dal Repoeo, carlabad, CA. apoke
in favor' of thia project. Mr. Clane felt the bloc:1t Wlll is
gnat, bit wa cxmcemed about the type of cxmcrete it ...ould
be, he Mad that ~Y mthing in an earth tale oolor
would be att.ractiw to look at.
Km Pc1dna, 6406 caaino del Parque, carlabad, CA. Mr.
Pa'kim apcke in qipoaiti.on of thia project. He further
adlled that. hi is cne of the 8 hmma ~ are diractly facing
t:hia iuae of pq,exty. Mr. Peddn'a lllljor amcern,.,.. the
traffic and the aumt. of~ that ..re built abcNe al the
hill ,itu~d\ are gcnng to iDC1'aN t..lw traffic en thia at.net.
o-niuiq1Wr L'Bam-aux Baked Mr. Peddna if he had f/ff/ other
~ U to how the o:nduioo OWl hllp the ~•
livicg in Alta Mira ,id.th the traffic pr:oblAa aud\ u, other
t.YPN of dNigna tbat. oculd be included into t.h.ia project.
Dm0tby Self, 815 cainito dal Rapoao, earl.abed, <>.. Ma.
8elf ~ amceni llboot. thia type of project beoan .. lhe
.., mtbing at.t.nct.i:ve er mhancing etlout a mini-wre laae
in flu1t al • nai.danti.&l dwelapllnt. She felt thia type of
pioject. ld.ll lurt. tha pcpl.a property "9.1.uea ti: A -.ly
ud falt. m cuwidenlti.on to thia project. lhculd be giwn.
SiDae 11:> gm elN ,d.ahed to ~ al thia itaa the ~c
tat:1amw .. acnc1ucled.
oc-dwioner Parrow ukal if the propoam rl~t~ and
l'l'I lliNII ~ of Pua> ci.J. lilorte in llt:.rNt. width ..
UMll into CDDllideratian. or di4 it. alee adclrw dir-=tly
t.'bat. oaaditim of the half atnet 1»ce, .. hi falt tha half
lltnet traffic ~ti.on d:wicualy ~ pit a ilif&rmt
OQlplmm 0D tbll ability to hmll• the traffic.
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O::WRiuioner L'lblunwl felt. that lll>3t of the paople, at 1-81:.
oc:wd.ng .into the project, ant probably going to be: t:R.veling
fn:a north to aout.'l to ocae into it and llOlt. of tiw paiple
f%\:a Alta Mira will be goinj the qllX)Ciite directior.. He felt
that 1-di&l't eoe alot of traffie: oanflict. wi.th the ~l•
ocaing in, but. with the paipl• leaving in the 8"ning that
haw to ~ aero.a Puao df.l t·-m:.e in order to go rorth mJ&.in
out to Pal.CIIU" Airport ~-Mr, L' Lauraix felt thie ia a
real pxantial. traffic cxmflict with offioa UHa of thi■
intanait;y.
WIil.tar Bft:Ml, Civil Bngineer, aplainad that it '°11.d b■
feuibl• to md a left turn podtat to arge thi, left turnin3
tnttic l'IX"thtDm at Pueo del Horta fran the project., it
'«U14 ,-.ibl• to haw a left tum p::,dalt for tha if
el.iainaticn of putting at Pu«> del Horta in the vicinity of
the project.
o:w-iMianllr L'ttaunux .iced ~t iDplCt there '°11.d be witla
circulat.i0n if t:han u no ait or mtranoe altO Cmdnito del
~. if the cnly mtnnce ad a.it ia altO Pue:> del
Marte.
lllal.ter BrcMl, Civil Bnginaei·, Iaepolded that if elimination
of the mt. er driY911af tmt. art.an a.inito del Parque, he
~ Ml!19Nt. that. a ..u.ri ialand b■ put in the dri~ on
PMec, cla1 ll0rt.e allS aRly cl.ON the drlvaey at caainito dal
Pucp.
o:-detaner L' Hllunux Mked if there ,.. arrJ antici19tia1
thl'calF any otMr' projecta of widming this ■tnet.
Nidaa1 llolaillor, Land U.. PlanninjJ Manager, ~ded that.
tM --..u 111\)jflct. --~ bit di.dn' t ~ hall far to
ta. eauth thia IJNject CJ0ea anS dcubted if illpre:lll'_Jt '°11.d
tc> 4111 t:1111 ~ ~ a::, the ai8t.inJ project.a.
0 -teSCIIW' L'Hlunua ~ a:nlitian no. 12 regardiDJ
Ula WU., be .-.S if thaff la ... iarticular nucn lllhy it
l• a at111sy -11 • ◄:W iWd to a atuocx:, -1..1. He furthar
._. if a Jv~ plan IIIDUld be amitted and~
tllat lta ....-• be _did to include mil.ding u.c,.ting.
o -teams ICNaldm" ...s if the ~1 .-cmly at the ..._.ly panJan ma not an c.tnito dal Puque.
a -•tlZTI' 1111aa ...s ""° the <MIC' ,.. of tm 9L'WlrY•
llt. llilflllll ktblr allied that thia Jr(lperty lhould haw
--baa ..s -it ia.
nadNtcns -.u. 111119d if there 1a a lialtatia:l of tlw
itillll to .. lltOnu. in the lllni~ aid if there '°114 --~.,...
0 -·: -·--lm'ClU9 ...S at.aft \!bat. the lllatua of the plan ia tat lb&ta t2d.a .... and if it. 1a going to apire.
a.ru. ClriD,. in 1'911p011M, indiaated that thia plan --a .,,.. tb:ut 1 l/2 1:0 2 yara alJ'> ..s the l(lpl.iaant.
notMIIIIIILI tD lllPl.Y km mtmaionbut. wlll nNd to man.
DID t ·t.._, b clarification tm:JiXIH■• i~ the a -tN1cm 1hlt tlWy ..,_ ti. power to ◄ll■ign the roada .,
emtdente dan' t oacur •
l
MINUTES
~ 24, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
01Wi -■iawr ~ ,.. a:incerned if in the pat.ioa of the 'blaineu blilding a:aplex there is any area fi:>r the 91pl.oyeea
to lunch ard al110 ~ a:mcern about the traffic
prcbl... Mra. ~ agnied with Mr. Farrow about the
auggeat.ia, regardmJ lxnii.n;J fi:>r future iDprova.mta f:ran
project:a that are ahead and felt this rhlul.d be looked at.
Olainmn ladxJtia aaked if an asmgency exit is needed for
thi■ project.
o:--i-■ia-.r L'Heureux imde a DDt.ial to oont.inue this 111ltter
\mt.il NclYaber 28, 1984, 80 that staff am return with
dlitiallll. an:litiaia that apecifioally address the aoceu ai
Cainito del Parqlle M being anergency cnly, addreuing
dlitiallll. an:litiaia a, Pu«> del Norte fi:>r a redesign of
the entrance, left tum in end out podcets er acceleratial
lane. and al.110 look into a, the widenin:J of Paaeo del Norte
to the ■outh to eliminate the oottle neck.
Di .a.aion am:ng the o:nnd ni onen al the noti.al followed.
Ccalli.■aicmer Schlemmer ,.. intere■t.ed in ~ er rDt
staff "'10Uld mve n,., wdatial as to the fonmtia, of an
au■■ ,t di.atrict, if necaaaary.
Por clarificatia, ~. '11llter Brown, felt the ■ituatia,
i■ mmifeatly maaft and there i■ no <Jl88tioo, but that than
i■ m \.W\Afe aituation to the IIOUth of this project al PaNO
del Norte. Mr. Brown lad a:noern of \lhether or rDt this
project aJntributaa tx) thie \Ollafe ■ituation, this project
'<ll0Ul.d m rtqUi.red to alleviate the situatioo am if 80, felt
wry amort:able.
o--deeioner J.Parrow felt that if in fact, through this nore
focuNd. atudy a, the traffic a:nlition l!ddreeaing it in
l'9latia1lhip tx) thi■ project, if an irlprovaalt. di.strict i■
not 1.W M ,,., , "'10Uld like to have at lea■t looked at it an:l
find wt ,illy it i■n't rec--4ed or ..tly it ia, and if this
NCli.an naeda to be illp:roved.
OJIW1 eeiawr SduAhJber aprwed a oonoern about tne
negatiw declaration.
OJIW1MiCXW" L'e■ur.lx indi.cllted that staff al110 re-addreaa
am.ti.ti.an m. 12 regardiDljJ ~ md landaoaping md alao
~ that thin wa a nquut. by the applic:ant -:--~-:
am.ti.ti.an 110. 13, ad finally giw ■c:aa tlnqtt to the
bdlding llc#ltin!i • flllOMd tx) just parking lot lighting.
'lba OJIW1Nicn tlDak a 5 minute r.ceea at thi■ p)int..
Nr. lll'IMl ~ the c:giortmity to clarify hi■ ■tataamt
ngu:dbv tba "Mni.flaaUy wwat. an:litiai "'8re 4 lama cm
~ cl■l ~ tnmitian into 2 1.anea·. Mr. Brollll ■tat.ad,
in clMificatian, thK thll tnnaiticn traa 4 lama tx) 2 l.m.-
wa -u..tly 1-■afe than a cxnti.nuatiai of 4 lanea with
m, 1'111act.i.cn, that m apecl.fic:ally \mNfe a:n:ltion,
~ the traffic, pr•IDt.ly er in the rw future,
\laing PMer> cl■l Moru in the vicinity of thll project, at tlw
tJa.
5. Q.llo-,234 -lfXUDml -Ravia, of the a:nliticmal. UN pmil~ k a vLieo U'Ollde waineu l.ooated in Plua a.dno
IMl Mqptng 01nt.er for CXlllpl.im w1.th the cxn!.ltiona of ~-
Dull 1D a oanf11ot. ol int.ereat, a..iDaul lmb)t.i■ abltair.s
f&m 1!\18 it.a IRS tum■4 the aaeting CNer to Vi~
ftlrlllllW•
MINUTES
PLIAlDI; CDIIISSI~ cx.:rt..llER 24, 1984
Bill Hoi-n, Principe] Plamer, gave the staff ~tatioo
u outlined in the staff report.
Vince Jin¥:,, Polloa Odef, indicated that the Police
o.part:Jamt filed a letter of q.ipoaiti.al with the Pl.anninJ
Department in ngarda to the J:9'191.Jal of the a:nlitiallll. UN
peod.t £or thia project blNd at mae of the a:nlitia. that
ware ariginally pit into the a:nlitiallll. UN pexmi.t. Since
that tha, a:mitoring of activiti• in thia area have takS1
pl.am Sid in diacua•inJ a aeriom rud:>er of <Xlllplainta ~ the
omara of the CNerall ~ (OIID9r■ of the imll, May
Oclpny Sid aecurity inlividual.a), an officer bu been
••igrwd at half t.1-(4 h0Un a day/5 day■ a waak) at the
..U facility to IIBintain CXJntrol of activities in ganera.lly
the~---■ Sid reliwe a:ae of the i;atrol activities
that are gmaraud ~ that large facility.
Mr. Jiax:> further stated that the Police Department hlUI had
an aigoing intereat • f.ar • an m-viw participant cr
obNrYc' fix the city at the aite. Mr. Ji.an> felt that since
thia aite 1811 beccae an arcade, there bu been a aignifiamt
incnue in )QD3 peopl• activiti•, axh aa loiterinJ
activi.N in the •jar i;auing ways ..tlidl a:11gregatea
ganarall.y in the area of the arcade. 'nl8%'e hlUI been IX>
polio■ type cue■ or wry, very ta, in the facility iuelf,
~, aJtaide of the facllity in the aD11a1 area, there
bu been a ai.gnifiamt increue of loitering, playful
am bathing in the pond. In cx.ncluai.al, Mr. Jinn) felt this
ia an attractive ndMDOe,
ca-:luir.nm:-Mc:ftddall aaksl the Police Quef if he had read
the letter ma the attorney repreNnting lb>l'WOrth wri.dl
11.aud ... alt.ematiw■ that ahould be me:1 fer a 90 day ·
tri.al perlcxl.
Vince Jiamo, Polloa Ou.ef, felt the cx.ncluai.aw fraa the
latter er dut:ima l:rouljlt fbrth fraa the attorney Clllll8
after dao .. ion with both hi-1f Sid the aanager c:4 the ..u am~ thaee are mluti.aw that are int.--1 to
mitigate hi.a parml ocnom:1• apcifically. Ba d-1 that
if the o:.-:INiClD falt that tbly '°1ld like to tty thi.a
aoluticn ha wuld ba willinJ to oo the mat to .. hew thi.a -..xu em niport. badt to the ca-d.uiai within 90 daya.
o:-duiawr Marcua aak-1 the Police arlef if be Im ~
intlcmat1cm in hi.a poaiticn -Qdef of Police of '41hat othar
juri.adict:ian apari.encae are with thaae.
o:-dNVIW" L'Bam aaltad if the mt.ranee into the
faci.lity wn clllmrJad ao that it "88 ally ac:rnihl• ~
the at.en itaelf ea! not aito the cxaicn area that that ,oiJd
ba1p llltigate ... of the p:'0blaa.
In nepai .. , Vince Jiamo, Polloa Odef, mlt a ml.tigating
e9act. '°1ld tab pl.am if acoeaa ,.. through the .tore
itNlf.
Vi.ce-Olaimln Parmw apa-1 the p:i>lic haariDg md 1.-md
the inri.tatkn to ....
MINUTES
ocrCEER 24, 1984 PAGE 10
■\alllll'y llheet -.hi.ch di11CUSsed ■cme atatistica. In
ccncluaiat, Mr. W:lod ulted that this a:nliticnal U88 pemdt
be ~ IIUbject to a review within 90 days to aee if
IJUbstantia.l pogre8■ towards eolvi.ng the problem has taken
plaoe. Mr. WXld ■uggast.ed that theae m:liticnal a:nlitiaus
be added1 that W:x:>l"°rth provide addi.tiooal security,
(flblday -Friday -2100 P.M.-8100 P.M: Saturday fran 11100-
6100 P ,M. end S\JMay -Nooo -5 zOO) cx:rmd. ting thenael vee to
i.nst.ruct. the ■ecurity to mt.ify Carlsbad Police Department if
there are any probl-; to be available ae witnesses if
neceaaary, to be avail.able as a citizen -making a citizens
arrest, if neoeeeary, and willing to a:muit thenaelvee to
cloee the facility and aeked that the camd.seial <Dl8ider
nmewing the a:nlit.i.a\al ll8e permit with these addi.tiallll
ocnlitiooa.
Calmi.eeianer Schlehuber asked if rot successful, -..hat WJUl.d
~worth'e positiai be as to allowing to have the arcade in
the aouthea8t oorn,,.r of the store, "'1ere a wall WJUl.d have
to be prt. in, er they <Dll.d m:,ve mercnandi.se fran a1e em to
another, and asked if W:x)lworth had discussed this
alternative.
In raapcmee, 'l\::m Wood, indicated that this 11Btter had rot
bem diacus■ed, wt discussed, if the problem amnot be
■olved within 90 days, their p:>sitiai WJUl.d be to close down
the arcade, if necessary, because they do oot. 'tlllilt the
prall•. Mr. W:xxl Btated that WX>lworth is willing to take
drutic act.ion if they can show substantial progress in
cleaning q> the proolem and so that is wry the 90 days were ~-
O'Jlllliuicmer Sd\lehuber w::odered if WJol""10rth had di8CU8sed
with Mr. WXld if they had been a g:xxl tenant. Mr.
Sd\llhmer felt this llhould have cxme q> before, am '<illy they
bad not takal act.iat at this Dlltter before the 0::llmi.eeial had
to l:rlng it q> .sm further asked if there were any irohlenw
before the Sumier.
Bill Mc"O'.meJd, Mllnager, WX>lworth. 3161 Falcon Drive,
carlaml, ~-, indicated that he ,.. aware of the irohlem.
Be stated that the ,ErOblaa weed :bmediately after
Jarmary, 1984, and at. that time he talked to Olrie cal.deral,
MIIMgv of the mall aoout the problem and asked her -..hat
cau1.d be cbl8 to alleviate the eituaticn. After ■peaking
with bar, ltl8 indicated that she '41i0Uld be pitting an atra
officera of her CWl aecurity force, "'1ich aha did, and the
prob.la &.c:.w-4 off and then the irc,blan re-occured 8lJllUl
UQm But.er treak and at tllllt time he apoke to Olri.8
c.a1daron in order to find rut ~t the next naoaaaary et.epe
lll0Uld ba to clear q> the ■ituatiai.
o--1 uimer Sdll.ehuber, ,... a:noerned if any problmB ware
ocmrring an pmger ch.ildral inlli.de the facility and lilhat
.. ba1ng cbw about it.
o:w-1N10Mr Sllli.th, ~ oonoem about the proolem that
aiata in the arc.de~ thcuJ'tl Nalrity ... pit into
efflat.. Ba indiaaud that he lp0ke to eeveral ll81'\lllgen of
4iftlennt. lltcna within the ■urranling area and they all
1rd1oatad the prc:blaa ... affecting their ■tore too •
.. IIIMu:rO, 1316 8uaMl Street, felt the irohlan WU mt wi.th
tJw a&alde, mt felt the oamunity niNda anre act.iviti• for
tM )Olth, a>cti • al.uba ad OEgani.&ationa.
MINUTES
cx:'1UBER 24, 1984 PAGE 11
David B}'de, 1311 Crest.ridge Drive, Oceanaide, CA., felt
t.hMe problala have alwaye erlsted in the llllll, maybe oot. in
the -• Be further added that even if the arcade is
cloNd the probl.-will still exist in the llllll.
Mike warnar , 2352 a:.p way, carlebad, CA., had several
l'WLWfllPU' articles £ran different. local newapapera and cl ted
__. of tha .tateamJta. Mr. Warner apdte in CHX)8itia1 of.
thia request and felt things ahou.ld be inproved in the nnll
am felt this f\m center llhoold be thrown out.
JiJD He.ffle, Area Manager/May Centers, Inc., 555 Miaaia1
Valley o.rter Wat, San Diego, CA., indicated that there are
t1Caa etqping amt.en, including theirs, that a, have video
arcade cent.en in thml. Mr. Heffle felt that regardless of
where the store llituatee the arcade inside the store, it is
not going to dlange the problan in the nell, it is the
at.ore' a locatioo itaelf relative to the other stores, Mr,
Heffle lpOke in oppoai.tial of the arcade, even trough it
u.ana revaiue to than as ""811 aa \ltX>l~. Mr. Heffle
added that a 3 mooth cxntinuatioo is eerious because of the
Olrletrma l!IJeUCl'l,
Omni aaialer L 'Heureux questialed -.by the i:roblern \IOlld
dill'JJPM'U" if the arcade is cloeed and row m.ich aecuri ty is
within ..he mall.
Chri.atine calderon, General Manager/Plaza Cmnino Real, 2525
El c.dno Real, carleblld, CA. , felt that with the Plaza· s
aecurity, the additiooal Malifua Sealrlty and the part time
police eecmi.ty, thia aituatia1 has not been able to be
oantroll.ed and felt that m mnmt of security will take care
of thia ixcblan,
~ Petrovich, 1710 S. El Camino Real, Encinitas, Ca.,
V~Pneidmt/Board of Di.rectors -Mall, pcesented the
o:wduicm a pet.it.um with 68 signatures fran many of the
nanegen in the 1.
In ..-r to camd.aaial <pery, 'l'tlD Wood, At~·, reiterated
t;.l)at 90 daya be al.la.d to try and m:,w the Q:mnu.19ial that
.aat:hing can be dcDlt about this J:Z'C,blan that will be
aatiafactory to the other people in the l'lllll,
Since n:> aw elM wiahed to apeak oo this lllltter the plblic
t.Ntinaly WU cxnclooed.
o:--1 ••ioner L' ~ cpeati.oned cxnUtim m. 4.
Diacuaaion took place mong the a:.nlaaicners in regards to
a:wing the into an interior locatiai.
In n■parlN to a cpeatia1 raiaed ~ the Oclmd.aaim regardinJ
~ rel.oc:atia'l Qf the arcade, Mr. 11:)()(l ■tat.ad to the
ow-tuion that It. M::f)onald did mt haw the lllrtrority to
--■ a dacl aim, tiut. felt that the lbllworth <m:poratial
\IOll4 not. be wi.1..1.inJ to ck> this aillply because of the oost.
0Wdu1ooer 8dtl.ehuber ada a DDtioo to acoapt the
~ of Plaming oc..d.aaial to direct ataff to
4nM \I)~ for the xwvooaticm of <IJP-234,
Schleh\b!r X X
lt:Jmotis X
Farrow X
Snith X
~adden X
Marcus X
L'Heun!lux @ X
MINUTES
lrlal!:R 24, 1984 PHE 12
6. gpA/UJ 84-13/1D-320/SP-196 -CLIV!HIAIN K.NICIPAL WMm
DIS'1mC1' -Raq\-.t. for IJlPrCNal of a general plan swunent.
fm111 public utiliti .. to a Clllilinatian district of
~ f.acl.litiea/profeaaiooalr a ireannaxatiooal mne
change to office end a apecific plan at 1966 Olivenbai.n Road
oo the mrth aide of Olivenhain Road, east arxi west of Ranch:>
Santa Fe~-
Bill aoi..n, Principal Planner, with the aid of. a
ttanapanocy gave the staff iresentatioo essentially aa
<XXl\:aimd in the staff report.
Aa a point of bac!kground, Mr. H::>fman, stated that this
prq,erty Wl9.8 IIBde a part of the \lbolley annexatioo }¥ the
Looal Aqfircj llbnmtioo O::mniaaioo. He indicated that this
annaatian wa apprcwed by LAFm with a a:nditioo that the
water <li.strict parcel be n!lZal8d to a city rrne i;rior tD
final approval of. the annexatioo, therefore, ar,proval of this
it.an by the Planning O::mniaaioo arxi City Cbuncil loiOUld
aat.iafy thia a:nditioo.
Mr. Hofmlln stated that staff ..as recx:mnernin3 8A)roval of
thia poject for the following reasons:
1) 'lbere is an existing cpvernnental use cu the Biter
2) '1he property is surrounded by roadways arxi is,
thenfore, adequately ruffered fran residentially mned
propertyr
3) If the ownerahip mangea an office \Be will create
the 1eMt aomt. of. illplct to this area.
Mr. lbfJlan added that a apecific plan is required for
praput.iM with a <Xllbinatloo district aa sud\, am
thal:rafllx'9, the aped.fie plan before you taught will not
att.ct the Clliat.ing UN of the pq>mty. 'lbe apecific plan
will be Ullll-.tAd if the 111ater district facility apandll er
_,.,1 fi• ita aiating blildiBJa or if Highilay 680 ia
oanat.ructed. Mr. ~ a:ntina.-1 that it ia staff'. belief
tlat the tpec1 fk plan will rm that future IIIJdificatiaw
to the !lite will IXJt. crate ai!vene inplcta to the
~u..
-1.ter BzQe. Civil Bngineer, with the aid a ....all tmp
a'bibit, empJeirW, the c::ircul.atian of. thll pq.,oeed p:-oject.
Nr. llnM> lltaud that tbay wre requeeting a width right--of-
way frm the OU~ llater District of. 68 feet end within
the 68 f.-t amd until mdl tiae, staff will _,. • -date "'8t naall to be dam at. thia locatian.
a--1eimer l'arrow falt that mitigat.ioo ~ lhould be
tMa in reger6I to the tn.ffic irot>la in thia area.
o:.-tet.mer ,_..~ ~ llhlre the dri~ ware
loalltied CD OllYatlain.
Qet,-,, laeot..1.a qiaw, the plb.llc hllarlng ..S iNuacS the
iari.tatJ.m to ....
MINUTES
CC1':B!ll 24, 1984 P1tGE 13
David McQ)l.lan, OliVWlhain ~cipal Wat.er District, 1966
Olivenhain Road, &lcinitaa, CA., indicated that he w:n1ted
with staff and aft.er reading the staff report and~
reaolutiale he had no probl.-with thau, but requested that
ataff add a IK'lltslce to the specific plan \Dier Sectiai II
-I.and UM and Circulatiai, A -Galeral Developnent Concept
to read "all .i.nprc:,vmalts showrl oo Emil>it 18 1 are not
aubject to the cxn:litial8 of the specific plan \El.ea
altered". Mr. 1'klQoll cm apl.ained that the p.u:poee fbr this
wu that it clarifyll the fact that they oo have an etlst.ing
Ulla and the aet.badta and pennitted intrusialll miceeeary are
not neoNHrily regulated 1111 they are oow.
Bill Ho1man, Principal Planner, in response, indicated that
eta££ did not have a problan with the lclC.tuCGt. frcm the
aR)l.iamt but WJUld pr-efer to m:.xilfy the w:>rdir,g to be
ocnaiatant with the rest of the specific plan.
David McCbllan, in cx:ncluaioo, asked that the plants be a.it
down aince it ia hard to aee <:Ner thau.
Since no cme else wished to speak ai this itan the plblic
tNtim:ny .. .!l cx:ncluded.
Planning O::U-,ju1ai approved the Negative Decl.aratiai issued
by the Land Use Planning ManAger and 1.oii.fied SP-196,
Sectiai II -IMXi Uee and Ci.rmlat.ial, &lbeection A -General
Dwel~ Ooncept. incorporating the eentenoe requested by
the IJllPliCllllt and edq1tej the following reeoluti<XIS:
RBSCU11'1CN t«:>. 2371, AWR:ND1i AN .H4BNrl4ENl' 'ID '1HE I.AND~
BIJN!H1' <R '1BB <aDAI, PIM PR:M U, PUBLIC IJl'ILITIFS 'ID A
CXNmilltd'ICN DISTRICT <R G, GCNEmM!Nl'AL FJICILITIES AND
W.iCBM. Ml> BLM'ED ClMEICIAL CN PKlPERlY <EmlW.LY
LOCl4'ZD CN 'IJm !llR1'H SIIE <R CLIVJHIAIN Rll\D, ~ MD l£Sl'
OF lNDD SM11'A FE RW>.
RIBU11'ICN t«:>. 2372, ~ A ~ae.L 1£tiE ~ ro O, <H'ICE CN PIU15Rfi <1!NBRALLY LOCA.."'!!D Nr 1966
OLIVIIIIIIUB ~ CN '!HE !Dml Sim: <R CLIVmtiUN Rli\D, FAST
.NII> 18n' ar 1WDD SANTA PE RY\C.
lilECIDl'ICN t«:>. 2373, ~ SP-196, FOR 3.36 1tCm:S CR
iWJila:, i l.()C,ma) Jtr 1966 a...IVJHP.IN RW> CN 'lHE !DRffl SIIE
OPa.IVl!HtAIN~, BAS'l'ltNDIESTCRRAIDl>SNn'APE~.
7. ICA-176 -Cl'ff <R ~ -A rrine oode mmndna,t
ngul.ating thl raa.r of gangea all<M9d in the R-1 r.cne.
Bill Ho1!1an, Principal. Plarawr, gave the staff ;;reaattatiai
.. aant&ined in the lltaff nport..
Mr. lbfall indicated that thi• requaat. wsa brought to the
Plaaung o:.-iuiai before aa an infonatiai itaa and at that
ta thP o:.-iMial RqUNted that lltaff p-epant an
1 ◄"1e1l. Mr. lbtlllarl 3lil.1ed the.t there are a 0014>le of
qualific:atimaa l) in cxder to ~e ad\ a gargage, it
.-be bm that the atruct.ure ...ta all moning
~ ad\ •• Nllladte, building ~. «er 2) the
UN anl.y be by the ooo~ of the J"M1dmoer and 3)
~ with aurround1ng reai.....,_ in the mig'hborhood.
a.iJ:an lll:IIIJ0l.ie cpned the pml.ic beari.BJ and iu\m the
invitatiai to ....
Farrc,,1 X X
lb'rtlotis X
Marcus X
Schlehuber X
M:::Fadden X
Snith X
L'Heure\.DC X
MINUTES
PLMtiill3 CIMIISSICti ~ 24, 1984 P1iGE14
Since no ooe wished to speak al this it.em the plblic ~
WU ooncluded.
Planning camiuial adopted the following resolutial:
RmU11'1Cti Ii). 2374, APPR:JIJlK:, A 7!m: CDIE ~,
.NHD>Dll TITLE 21, <1JAPl'ER 21.44, SErl'ICN 21.10.010, CF 1HE
CARIBIW> K.ti'ICIPAL <DE, m' 1HE ~"l' CF ~<:ti
21. 10. 010 ( 2) RmA.lmDI:. PRL m:rE G\RAGES IN 1HE R-1 1.CtiES.
Mike Pcinter, Attorney, 225 Broadway, &rite 1900, San Diego,
CA., stated he WU requesting a t:a'lplrary permit, without
prejudice, to DOVe his client's house 3 blocks down the
road.
Mr. lbfman, !'rinclpel Plan."lel.", stated that nonnal.ly there is
a pamit raquired fur a house DDVe and at that time staff
looka at CD1p1Ltibillty, :route and time am will add
ccnlit.ima that require Jand~ing, ':!t.c., an:i felt staff '\1168
not ready to lllllke a recaimardatial al this iroject because it
ia rr.t. ~!ate to nke a decisial al this house aove
with:Jut looking at it firat.
Ocrmdaaial query ena\Bi in regards ~ .l the nonml pr:ooedure
takat f.or house novea and criteria that should be met.
'beforehand.
'ftw Ninutea of Auguat 22, 1984, meeting were approva:1 aa
pl'9Nlrt.ed.
L'Heureux
Marcu.s
latbotis
Farrow
Schlehuber
rtFadden
Snith
Schlehuber
Farrow
Marcus
larbotis
rtFadaen
Snith
L'Heureux
Harct'8
foloot.i.s
Farrow
Schlehdler
t-t:Fadden
Snith
L'Heureux
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MINUTES
PNZ 15
The Minutee af Septeai>er 26, 1984, meetiBj were approved as
~t.ed.
By proper DDticn, the meeting af October 24, 1984, -.aa
adjourned at 9155 P.M.
Reapectfully sul:Jnitt.ed,
MIQIAE[.. J. ID..OOcmtR
Lam Use Planning Manager
Anita G. RallDe
Acting Minutea Clerlt
Farrow X X
Marcus X
Iottx,tis X
Schlehuber X
M'.::Fadden X
smith X
L'Heureux X