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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-12-12; Planning Commission; Minutes..... v. Mffting of: Date of Meetinq: '1'iae of Meetinci: Place of Meeting: CALL '10 CHER: I ., MINUTES PI..AlifiIR; COMSSIOI Deoent>er 12, 1984 6:00 p.m. City Chuncil Chllltlers 'flle Meeting was called to order by Olairman loltx>ti; at 6:04 p.m. RJlL CALL: Present: Olair:an Rarbotis, camrl.ssiaiers Schlehli>er, ani th, L' fleureux, Marcus and Pk:Fadaen. O:mnissiaier Farrow arrived 6:10 p.m. Absent: None. staff Menlbers Present: Bill Hofman, Principal Planner Charles Grilml, Principal Planner Mike Bowes, Assistant Planner Walter Brown, Civil Engineer Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager PLl!DE a, AI.Ll!GIA!CE was led by Olai rman loltx>tis. PIAMmr,; CXJIUSSIOI l'RXEXJRES: Chab:•n ~tis called attentioo to the Planning Ccmldssioo Prooedm'es being shown oo the screen and asked the audience to take a few minutes to read them. 1. ZC-~84-11/CP-283 -CARLSBAD BF.1tCR RAQJ()ET CLtl3. ( to OOean Vista) Request for a s:ine dulnge, tentative tract map, lll'ld oondaninillll pemit m 9.4 acres located between carlabad Boulevard lll'ld AT,SF Railroad at Anacapa !aid. Bill Hofllan, Principal Plainer, gave the presentatioo on this it• as oontained in the staff report, using a location mp transparency n:,wing the site. Be stated this ita was oontinued sld the IA)liCSlt has now aitigatec! the ooncerns of the cc.nission. fie used wall mape lhcwing the revised site plan. Mr. ~f:lllan stated COuncll hae now <XJnaidered the sale of the property, and a cxnditioo has been atMed to require the IA)licant to vaclllte the ptope.cly Jrlor; to final 111111P 81)pro17al. Another chart was used n:,wing the re--design to apanish- ..Uterranean, replacing the a:intelll)orary style, sld he ■tat:ed staff felt this WIIB a nore interesting design, aitigating the architectural oonoem. ttle recreatia\al area was mother oonoem of the CCW-1utm, • the t98identa '°11.d have been fcroed to crou the etrNt to tUch the area. '!he ~icant hM mw piorided IIK>ther <XalOl'l area to eU.111.i.nate the neceeaity ot. crouing the street. Mr. Bofan dillC.'U■lled the oongestion of the project, ■tating the I.Bllble acr:uge is 4.25 acres, sld it would be difficult to ~ign this pa;oject to raove the oangNt:ion or clutter. I MINUTES Deceatier 12, 1984 Page 2 In mswer to query about llhat "'°'11.d happen to the q,er1 space, Mr. Hofan said Ml easenent will be dedicated over that property and will be left in a natural oonditim. '!be •intenance of this easement would be the responsibility of the hcaeowners. Ccaniuiooer Schlehuber mked about the railroad ooise ancl the absence of a oonditiat for a wall as in the other projects, and Mr. Flofllan stated the interior sound levels mat be leBS thSl 45 Im. Walter Brown stated Oonditim 36 d should reach •Acoeleratim and deoeleratim lanes m Carlsbad Boulevard.• 'l1le rest of that sentence is to be deleted. Olaiman Rollbotis q>erled the public hearing at 6:12 p.m. ancl issued the invitatim to speak. Mr. Bob Ladwig, Rick Engineering, stated :he applicant agreed with staff rea:maendatioos and accepted the aaended oonditim as stated t:,,, Mr. Brown. Mr. Ladwig used a wall mp SlOWing the projed, and stated this 110Ul.d be the first ate of its kind a, Carlsbad 6oulevard, it should be Ml example for future develqaent. 'ftlis would be a pemanent oorrioor for the City and future projects should allow for large q>en spaces. He stated the b.Jildings w.re spread apart to llllke a oorridor. Mr. Ladwig said the q>en space was to be kept free of. tral!lh. An:>ther CDnee~ was the name of the project, and Mr. Ladwig stated it had been changed to Ocean Vista. He stated that should mitigate the camdssioo's <DlCem. Mr. Ladwig discusaed the recreati<Wll facilities and the dun}e mde there, and the railraod ooise attenuatim. In ooncluaion, Mr. Ladwig stated the pt"Cl)erty is divided, but will be a nice project and should be a trend-setter for the area. Mr. Nigel Clarke, 7343 Alaaden Lane, a.idressed the aa..iuion, Mk1ng whether the three-story ruildings hdW! 9araiJIB mdemeath, aid Mr. Ladwig answered that they did, but ware within the height l:bdtatioo. Mr. aarte felt the elwationa • lhown were m.llleading and ahould be dlecbd cloeely ~ staff. Mr. Clarke did oot like the architecture, etating it showed oo fom. Robbie Richlln, Selp>El, aaked llhether there is SI architect to look CJINr the plan• aul:aitted m projects, or la tber. -,one m this Cmaiaaim WlO is able to read pl.aw, or cl:> they just rely ai the pictures eubldtted. Cbait•n RDllbotia stated all pl-cp through a thorough •t:aff reri• md they are plamers. Aleo, he stated that ....-al of the Ooaiaion l'li!llbtn are able to read blulprlnta. MINUTES Deoelllber 12, 1984 Page 3 Mr. ll>fnlln stated that except for the redevelcpnent area, no architectural review is necessary in the City, and there is no architectural Rview board. Architectural plane ar.e oot ~ by the City. Dr. Ridaan, Seaport, stated he wanted to echo the fears of the people of. the caamity watching the growth of carlabad. 'lbe past ten years this growth has been lr-ibus. Be expressed his cpiniat that this ca.i.ssioo should listen to the citizens ~ watch the growth viery cloeely. Mr. &1111 Clel::erg, 7219 Mia:>sa Drive, spake regarding his CXXleem dioot «lequate parking for this project. Staff anase'ted the Rd.niaull of me mw'ted parking space is requi'ted in the comc:.inim oroinance and the rest is outside. 'ffle visitor parking requires one space for wry four lftits, and this project has approximately 25 or 26 guest parking spaces, plus the ratio. Since no me else vished to speak a, this item, the pt,lic testia:ny was ooncluded at 6:26 p.m. ao.d.ssioner McPadaen stated this ~ a difficult site to dew!lop and viery visible, and although the lll)plicant had tried to t'NPOlid to the suggestioos, she felt it was oot adequate. '1be site was too oongested and there was an unsafe oonditioo in the curve oo Anacapa. She felt there should be no ID'ltaent-type ooildings oo carlsbad Boulewrd. OMliran lolbotis noted, for the reoord, that a letter ha! been ROei'V'ed frca Mr. Jack It>t>.insoo of South Shores De'ftl.qaent Corporatioo. ca.dsaioner Marcus ~ vith a::.aissioner McPadaen, and felt the project 'Nlll8 too dense and she lO.l.ld have diffiatlty in ~ing it. eo.daaioner Schlehuber ~ he did have a problem ~ thid project, rut lO.l.ld CJ:> ala,g with the dlnaity since they are CDl()lyinq with the pr:esent law. Be aMec!I he wnted that ordinance changed in the future. ~ran lolbotis oalled attentioo to Resolution No. 2348, page 2, l'inding ts. 'lbe date l!lhcMl there should be ~ to tleolllbtr 12, 1984. Ctaldeeioner L'Heureux asked staff how a negative declaratia, -~ aid Mr. fk>fan IMW9°ted that my project in the City ... atuctied to datemine "1ether er not lt ... aubject to a, BIR aid t,hat i.spacts that pmject. WlUld haft at the tnvlrGwww1t. Became this project f•t:m.! clustering aid._ not enviroraentally ...ttiw Ind did not extend into the wetlands, it 'Nlll8 felt that a nagative declaration CX>Uld be iaaued. oa.iaioner L'lleuEeux Mad about Itea t8 oo the Agenda, with a 0an&lltiCI'\ tts, AgUding noiee attenuatioo, Illich llelal! to be m <nl!plete than C'.onditia, 20 oo this ita, Ind he atated ha felt all -..ch oonditiona should be oaaaiatmt Ind lud the .... Alao, he fel t C'.onditia, t1,, lbidl mlaud to the au-foot -11, ahould a1ao be oontalnld ln thie RNolutiai, • -11 • ~ project lbutt.lng the ~. Bl agr9ed t:hie wa a tti.ffimlt elte and he IDJld alao hllv9 difficulty in accepting the cllnaity of the project. MINUTES Deoellt>er 12, 1984 Page 4 Ccalissioner Schlehuber asked arout Conditioo 136 d, and Malter Brt1lffl stated the laE.t sentence of that sect.loo should lead :•Acceleratioo and deceleratioo lanes oo carlabacl Boulevard.• 'l1le rest of that sentence should be deleted. Ccaliuioner Schlehuber agreed with Ccmnissi~r L'Reureux with regard to the sound attenuatioo oonditioos in resolutioos. ca..isaioner Marcus stated she did mt li.Jte this project and the density. eo-issioner McFadden questiooed whether this was the beat use of that site. Plaming ca.issioo adopted the following Resolutioos: ~ R>. 2348, RECXJIVH)DC APPRJIIAL CF A 7DIB CRNl;E PK». R-1 -10,1000 'ID m>-M-0 NI> CE Cfi PRlPERTY GllmWLY IDCA'l'ED BB'l1ffZN CARLSBAD IUJLE\l'ARD NI> '!HE ATliSF RAILHW> 1tr NllDtPA R:w>. RBSCUn'ICfi !D. 2~9, RECDlmmDC APPRJIIAL CF A 'l'!N'l7d'IVE 'mACl' ~ AND CIHXJllNitM Pf!aitIT Cfi PR>PERI'Y WCATBD 8lffllBl!H C'ARLSBN> BXJLEVMD NI> '!HE M,SF RAILR:W> 1tr HW:APA KW>. With cha,ges to Finding ts, ooise and wall attenuatioo ronditioos and deletioo of IIOI'ding oo Oonditioo 136 d, as discussed. 2. COP-260 -CXWft' K\S'l'E ~ -Request for a condltfciiai me periiilt to locate a solid waste operatioo at the County Transfer Statioo ig>roJdJnlltely 1,500 feet north of the intersectioo of PalaMr Airport a.i and Bl Caino Real in the M-0 7.one. O\arles Gria, Principal Planner, gave the pcesentatioo on this ita as contained in the staff report, stating this wa a~ aJP until a pemanent locatioo is founi!. 'ff'8R IDll.d be oo storage of trash oo the site. 'Ibis ID1l.d be flor storage and repair of 35 trucks used by 0>ut 1IUte Managaent. Mr. Gria stated the lllPlicmt 1188 to increase the lmdsolllping and there were conditioos to regulate poesible trash spread to adj-.nt. ftq>m.ties, • wll as anti.time to control the operatioo of. the facility. In reap01iee to CJJery, staff stated this t:apcrary site .auld poaaibl.y be mad far at least two years. 'ftle traffic circulatioo ws questioned. Engineering staff wnd they felt the stnets wre -'equate to blnllle the traffic. 'Ibey~ that with the Cl0ftltrUctim of. the safety Olnter, P'ara&ly will be aanat:I\ICted IIVi th" IIJPlic::mt will gain access through tbllt atnet. 'ftle trucb far this applicant will leave in the mmi.ng and return at nie#\t--tllaking ooly one trip par day. a-ait111n ~i• ~ the l,'.dllic heari~ at 1-:45 p.11. and 1--the invitatioo to apeak. Mr. at aoer-, 7204 Panto Drive, ,epreeenting Coast WMt:e llll!illg_at., dttNltll the cn.isaion, stating thay aould now ncate the property oo Panto Drive. R:llh:>tis X Farrow X Schlehuber X X L'Beureux X 91\ith X Marcus X McFacxlen X MINUTES Decellber 12, 1984 Mr. Boeraa oalled attention t.o two ronditims, Ocnditia, 26 d, and 31, stating there ftllst be sane lliamdersunding, • they are mt developing a new project, and ally renting the existing building. 'fflis will not be a trash processing ~atia,, but they are aillply mri.ng their general offices, trucks and storage arxl repair facility. Be felt 26 d was unfair, as based on their traffic, a signal l«>llld mt be required. A boulevard stq> would be sufficient, and they were willing to provide that. Mr. Boersma added if they did create traffic j-, the o:mdssia, oould review the OJp and ct> acaething about that. Mr. Boerallla teed COnditia, 31, and stated it was oot pouible for C.oaet Maate Management to grant an eaa nt-a, land they did mt own-they are just renting. Be stated the appropdate tiffle to grant an easaaent would be at sane future time when the entire acreage is being planned. An altemative aolutia, was suggested by Mr. Boersma, oonaiating of a <bcment or permit granting the City accesa to their pnmises. He asked for approval of the COP with the ti«> itC!IIIB he discussed deleted or aooified in the interest of fairness and logic. Since oo a,e else wished to speak en this ite111, the ptj>lic testimony we ooncluded at 6:55 p.m. ca.i88imer L'HeuJ:eux cxmaented, for the reoord, that he had met with Mr. Boersma to discuss this project. wal.ter Brown explained COnditim 31, using a tranaparenc.y to show the area ala,q the westerly pa:opaty line fran Faraday to the existing exit fmn the p:operty going to El Camioo Real. 'ffle City and county have 111 agre_ ent to have the O:>unty grant that aooeu. Be stated the teaSOn behind this ronditim ..as to have the IIA)licstt: d>tain and grant an easMent by f• title holder • lesaee. Mr. Brown stated the purpoee of the aeooncSary access was for emergency and the IIC0HII 1188 to n.ain in place, but 11111'\ually closed. '!be City hlie an d:>ligatim to the water District and to Bedmarl. o--iui.mer L'llem'eux stated he had difficulty with the lading of the conditims, • the lessee camot cp:1nt er ca&JN the OOUnty to grant these things. Be felt tbia type of dnelqaant lhould mt be held l4> by th1a type of lllnguaga. !he signal was over-reaching, acaarding to oa..iuioner L'BeureUll, lh!n the applicant only has a fi....-ywa~ aJP. He l«>llld put l4> a:ney for a •itnDl aw.') poaaibly not benefit fral that, with the City Ind the Oculty being the a,ea to benefit lltlen they a..Jq, theit p:q,erty. Cmaiaaimer I, 'Beureux Rgglllabid the ~t be deleted or put in at less tha1 half, but alao r.,quire or provide lh!n he vacates, lf the lli9lal, ia not in, he would get his aw,ey bade. In ---to~ regarding Ooaatal RNJ., Mr. Brown •tat.ea thay lalt the axiaa llllllber of. driwwaya to ease their Internal clroulatia, pa:obl-and there is a wrltt.n ~ for dri'V'8WJ9 to be left open to than. Ill .__. he has clifficulty aupporting driVWIIJ8 on art.arial atneta, and believee the City lhould cxintrol acc... tor the r,tt,lic good. ' ' , MINUTES P~ CXMUSSICfi Page 6 ca.ieaimer Schlehuber agn!C.'!d with ca..issimer L'Reurem, and favored his seoond propoeal. Re felt C.onditiat 31 was w:,rded wrmg, as they cannot grant an e• nt at pr.q,erty they oo not CM\. In aNMtr to a queetiat as to .tty Cooditia1 26 d called for me half of the signal 008t, staff said there waa a need for a signal at •A• Street. 'lhe me4\alf S\aI'e was arrived at a, the basis that the City "'°'1l.d provide me-- half of the ooet at the Mrth side. 'ffle ,c,rding <X>l.lhl be cha,ged to: •At auch ti.Ille as traffic warrants are 11et or the City l!ngineer ahall deem necessary that the traffic signal be installed, and that if the traffic signal is not installed c:lJring the life of the appl leant 's lease, he is relieved of l!/lf'j met for it.• 'l1le tille of the CUP was diecuBBed, and it was stated the IIRlliomtt did not know just how lonq he "'°'1l.d be renti~ that property. It IMS stated the County had propoeed oo change in the periffleter of the transfer statioo. Staff stated the location of the driveway is difficult, and any developnent by the County to the east "'°'1l.d be evaluated with regard to the cul-de-sac policy. Rowever, County developient ,oiould not be until next SUll!ler. Plaming Ccmlission approved the Negative Declaration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager, and aoopted the following Ret!lolutioo: RPS:I.Dl'ICN M'.>. 2388, APPRJV'IN3 A OH>ffiCNAL l6E PfX-lIT 'ro 'AUDf A 9lLID ~ CPERATICN 'ID I.DCATE Cfi PR:>PERI'Y Gl!JmW.LY lJJCAftD APPRlXIMM'ELY 1 , 500 FEET M'.>Rm CF 'mE INI'Bl6!CTICN Cl PAUN\R AIRPCm' RWl NE EL C'AMIM> REAL. With following a111e1dnents: Oonditioo 26 d, be rerNOtded to provide that at this tiae the applicant not be required to either lxlnd for or insWl traffic signal. At such time as the City Engineer detemines that a traffic signal is necessary, that the IA)licant be required to oontribute oo nore than one-quarter of that r and that if the warrant has not been called pc'ior to the tune of the tendnatioo of the CUP, this cml.igation oo the part of this applicant be teminated. If the applicant has posted bonds or m::iney: that be refuncled to him at that time. 0ondition 31 be deleted, lmless the t«>rding is ~ to state the applicant wul.d assist the City in acguiring •uch m eum nt and "'°'1l.d not object to such an eu nt: being granted, and not tie into the 0CCUpi!ll'lc.y of the site. 3. ZC-322 -PBA SOOP ~•s -Request fee a SJne change fmi R-lr-10, 000 to C'l'-0 oo property located juet eut of I-5 between car Comtry and Pea Sot4) AnderNn's. Nib llcMa■, Aaista\t Planner, gave the presentatioo a, th!■ it.a M <Xllltained in the staff report, Ulling a tr:1111111p•n111c7 lllhowing the pr.opoeed ~ mange. '1his acne dWnge 110Ul.d pmride CXlNli atency with the General Plan and PMaO Del Norte, and will serve as a dividing line bit.JUI\ different aonee. OMl1Dlln Rcaboti■ q,es,ed the pj>lic hearing at 7:16 p.111. lftl! iaa-' the inritatiClll to apeak. Since ro me wiahed to lpNk a, thi■ it•, the public teetiDJny portioo ._ ooncllded. lbrtx>tis Farrow Schlehuber L'Heureux Sllith Marcus Mc:F~ X X X X X X X X • i ~- MINUTES Dlciiitlec 12, 1984 Planning Ocaiaion atopted the following RNolution1 1111XD.1'1C11 i.>. 2390, l9JC: IBl>DC APPID1AL '10 'ftm CI'l'Y hiW:IL bl .. awm PIO ,....,._10,ooo '1'0 Cl'-0 (If wt Glll!RIU,Y IDC1d'BD !'ABl' or 1-s Blfflft!:l!N cu "'CDlf .... m"'"'w _, PD DIP Nlllllll!N' .'3 "'1"!L. 4. CT M-13at282 -BBAIIINI -AequNt fer ~ of a tattat:ift lrisia\ 1111) aid ccrd:lainim pemit to dwe4 10 unita on the a:>uth ■ide of. Olive Aftftue bet:IMSl the 1tflBP Railroad aid Garfield Street in the ~ Naw. Olarl• Gria, Principal Planner, gave the pn,11nt.ation u acntained in the lltaff repxt, using a tranllpantllC.Y to ata, the aite. Be aMec! the project la llid-r_.. aid the i:mtting is lniergrc:,tm, with a large pool a apa area overloakirw;i the lagoon. OW.n.n Ralllx,till opened the public hearing at 7120 p.a. ant! 1.--1 the invitation to apeak. Mr. Din BNran, 331 Olive Avenue, the applicatt, adl!raud the Ocai•ian stating he agreed with the ocnilltian■• a. reiterated there .,.. a5equate p■rtting aid no imiting on the cul.1'8 sac. Sinoe no aw elae wiahed to ape.it on this it•, the pm,lic t:Ntillany -ocncluited at 7122 p.a. In ...u to query, NE'. Brown stated Condition t30 was ■t.armid pr00l(lm, fer aonetruction of Ullffl>U-lUJ, aid that all Ulpl:'.>Pl-ita wre required. In mfer•a to a noiN attenuatiat .all, Mr. Gria •tated staff did not require a wall, ISi.noe there is a bluff •p•uit.L,g thia project ma the railroad tradt, ant! that 25-foot bluff ll0Uld aolve the noise l)E0bl-. !be traffic cin:ulation -di■cuued., with Mr. Bron\ using a wll chart to aplain the cul.1'-NC to the OOWd•t.an. 0anmrn -apceMel! about n!ed traffic, with lltaff ■tatin; ti-..y apect.ed no m than 50 uni.ta to ba built than. In ..... r to a qusetion about ... ingtm Stnet, NE'. llrcM\ --.e'9d there -no wy that aou1d be aaampli■hed beoauae of. the terrain n pmubltlw cmta. ltaff aplaiMd that there are aeveral differ:ent .w.nge in that .. , a,d thia is -duignated in the General Pl.In. 0oed•ta.r L'IIIUnulr ■tat.I be could not aJA)Ot't thia pcojeet. • be felt it wa pnaature. 0oed•iaw: Nc:l'llilltll, atated the traffic circulation .. a CIIIIICKh 11116 lhe muld not IIUIJP0rt the pi:oject. Ralllx)tia X Fana, X Schlahuber X L'Beuntm X 8111th X X Narcua X ~AIMar'I X MINUTES Daclall>ec 12, 198' Plllminq o.d•tcn apptowd the ~ive Declaratia, i...W by the Lani! ON Plaming N1na1J8r a,d adopted the following 11Noluticn1 Mlmm'D II). 2319, APPIOIDG A 'l'llft'A'1'IV! SIIDMSI<Jf U a hlLWlM PIIIIIT fOR 10 CIII'l'S <JI .65 M::RBS <JI P.c»Bkh QI-IJ.Y t.0CM'II> Cit '!RI !IXffll SIDE <I' Cl.IV! AVIiia rm __ Bii lttfBF MILRW> Ml> GARPIBLD S'l'la'I'. ld)jeet to 8Clftl attenuatlcn mJl!y er a wl.l. Md to Olnllticn ]O d, ~ing ftal It:a 18, 0:lnditia, 115. Olaiman Rr::lllb)tia dlcland at nt0N8 at 71 37 p.a. , aid aa.l•tcn ~ at 1,,3 p.a., with all Nlllt>era pnaant. 5 • .:-31~8"-35 -PAla»I IIIU8 -Request for a pt'MI■--.._ diinije lrai (A-70 Olunty) to R-1- 8000 aKI R-1-7500 for ti«> parcels aid a 2,e-1ot tentatiw tract 11111P an aJ«41-ty aouth of the s::iutherly taainua of P0ntiac Drift. Nib lbMe, Aaaiatant Planner, gave the preaentatia, at this ita • aantaimd in the staff report, ming a trampanncy to IIOf the ■ite. Puture deYelcpm\t will h..,. to aanf0n with R-1 at.andarda. He stated ., adl!itialal. cr.n1Uticn -hlncled out tmight. In_. to query, staff .....rect that 8Cllll9 962,000 cmic yards ol. dirt will be IDV9d m this project. Another ~ticn imolving the building of P0ntiac waa ... nd by staff, auting that P0ntiac ..au1d be wilt bet:Alll the acttth line aid Twrac:k to the 8t:.mdMda of a aollector atrNt, but rot to full width in Pll\flng. OW.nan Rcllboti■ cipawd the pmlic hearing at 7: ,a p.a. and 1-.d the imritatlcn to apealt. Nr. Nib Rider, 9605 Scrantm ~, san Diego, apace to the oa.d•lcn, stating tMy agree with staff. He ~ the project md stated there will be m lots fronting an PIClltiac 1111! all the banks aid slopee will be a1nta1ned by the hcaacMlera auociatlcn. He d!ed Pontiac IIOUld be ocnnect.ed fna T-.radt to the aillting point, and the traffic an OM!etnut IOlld be r.lte..d. llr. Ridar Mid they ..au1d prefer lees grattng, but that wa clJe to the aligrnent of POntiac, the grading wa 1WC1NNIY to ab the &tn!et 110rk. Olalmm\ Rcllboti• stated there is al.ready a Paloort Billa in the City of CElabad, and Mr. Rider IIUIWered he t:hau!itlt the IJJPlieatt had mother nae in aind. Nr. 'lawy Gamin, 2715 1'Xk lbat'I, apoke to the ca.issioo en tbe l!a1la,ing an:mmu traffic circulatioo aid vtlc!llife. Ill atated he had a probl• with traffic to the ~ and wat ol. tbe develqalnt, • thia project ..au1d adlt to the aangaticn. Re felt POntiac to Twradt llhou1d a. flall width. 8ch:Jol.a in the area are at the ...... ~ty IDf and dlildnn .. being t:ak9\ by bua or car to Pio Piao or lkama Viata. a. felt the echool '11ietrict lloald hllN a plll\ to -are the children -1d 91> \:a acbaal. Another oonoem-■ the eagle ~ in the ..... luff atated Olnlltlcn 120 oalled for preeervatiat of the t:.-.... Aclltloti■ X l'anow X Sc:hlehuber X X L'Reuret.ar X 8111th X Nllrcua X Nct'adc!ln X ' ~; . MINUTES PIMaDG CDIIISSICN Deoellber 12, 1984 Page 9 Mr. bl Bolt.a\, 3802 Sierra 11:m!na, spoke oo the c!raina}9 prabl•, ancl a11J9Nted the ca.nissioo look into th6 1,tq..A&d wt:er Ibid. He stated there ia a lot of wter there now, ancl this project will qenerate mre water. Mr. K_, Mllgrini, 2713 York lt>ed, aJdressed the cloNI 111 ot the agriculture area, and the spraying of that ... , and Mlted how that llight affect the people living adjacent:. Staff eaid this project '°1ld elilliMte the agriculture. Mr. ~ Brown, 271 t Athens Avenue, spoke Cl'\ the traffic prob!• that eiriate in that area at the i:cesent tiae, with the a:inatructioo going oo there and the trucu going through. He stated the dlildren play in the ■tr9eta, ancl he felt people '°1ld start using l'altiac and create a prob!•. staff an&Nered that Pointiac IOlld relieve traffic oo Olestnut ancl Sierra Norma. It will be a a>llectol" with rx> parking for my ~ that fialt m it. Staff stated that Cmditim 29 requires a haul route for the dirt. Mr. Laurena <;randy, 2738 Victoria Avenue, spoke oo the traffic m P0ntiac, atating that people will speed oo that auwt. He alao lpOke m the school problem, and uJmd lllhether the jogging trails and park area '°1ld be left. staff atated there wre rx> trails in this project. Jogging trail■ in the early calavera Hills were eliainaud • there ti-' baen a problem as to liability and mo IOll.d aintain audl trails. Mr. Bl:alll atated the traffic atl.dy by SNIW'; indicated PICntiac ..auld have 5,000 werage daily trips, ~idl is near mpacity fer a •toot wide rurb to rurb street with~ Cira and drivwaya. '1tle speed limit ..auld be 25 • and IOll.d be enforced mtil the drivers lMDm that. Staff indicated there is a echool site iaediately to the nar:th ot. .._. they se gra:llng now in the calavera Bill& lllftar Pl.In Ina. Taaradt goes to within 100 ylrdl ot. the echool aite. Nr. IIDflllll atated a atl.dy-. cble recently m school J.ocatian plawd.ng and the land is J:Wrved fer a adlool. '!be adlool. diatrict -..t. ate applicaticn to the City urying echoola.,. wailable. <2lalaan ll0lbotia auggeeted the r:eaidlnte go to the acboQl l:mld aetinlJa and punue the acquiring of r...s.cJIIC.bc,Qla. oa.daimer L'lllunull atat:ed the General Plln nqghw the City, in c:xn.«lon with the edl00l. diatrict, to idlntify pountia.l el-,tary rm high Khaol altee. ~ a 1,COject a... to the City, the State Jar nquina the City to •iJwure• there ar. ec:hoola 111d ab an:e then la land or lAftl designated llbidl ...id CJ0 to the lldlool diatrict fer & echool • .. a1eo all!NMt:rlC! the rNidlnta need to go to the acboQl cUatrict. , , MINUTES Deoellber 12 , 1984 Page 10 Mr. 11111 a.berg, 7219 MbDaa Drive, a:lted about the opm apace requinaent for this tract. Mr. HofJlan uplained the City's policy now to build regia\&l parks irwt:MI! of. neighborhood parks, due to the CX>St of. Hintenance. In planned mit developlents, private facilities are proridec.'l for the residents only. O\ai.Eal'I Rolllx>tis explained that the developers have to eign a pu1t agnwnt with the City and provide fees to build CDIIUl'U.ty parlta for each quadrant. 'ftley JaJSt either give laid or pay fees, s.d in this instance, they will P11Y feee. Mr. Bolt.a\ stated the speeding issue was being mioided and the traffic proble111. Mr. Jia Quim, 2717 York lt>ad, spoke regarding the traffic probl-, echool and park shortages, and felt develqllent lhould be slowed cbffl ta'ttil these shortages are taken care of. Mr. Rider, in .-.-er to CClllllissioo query, stated they had wmted to cluster ta'tits, but oould not due to the lot sbe. Since no one else wished to speak en this item, the pmlic teatia:lny W!l8 ooncluded at 8:37 p.m. ca.iuiaier McPaMen expressed oonoem that the Negative Declaratioo had not oonsidered the circulatioo and traffic. Ocalliuioner L'Beureux expressed CXll'loem with the Negative Declaratioo and the grading oo the project. Pla'W'li.nl;t Ocalliuioo ll)Pt'OV'ed the Negative Declaratioo i■--! by the La'ld Uae Planning Manager and adopted the following Reeolutioos: RISCIDl'1'CII M). 239,, 8DN!H)DG ~ CF A PUllilllll maw. DI! OIMD!l PIOI ~70 (CDlfff) ro ~1- 8000 Ml> IH-7500 <If PiGJIBRh <DBRALLY IOCA'l'ID DJm OP TB! DlitlliCLl. !ll'l'IINSI<lf C. PCJft'IAC ImIVE. RBXlJl'ltll M). 2395, ISXINHJDG ~<PA 248-WI' l&iiLM iiicr iilKP CM PKMRn ~ IOCATm CM !'Ill DnB SIDB C. 'DIB S001illRLY 'l'IRmlJS <P PCJft'IAC DRl'VB. Wldld to wad: Pontiac be cloeed to north <lldng OCMb:'uction mtil the City Engineer deeae it to be opawdJ trucb to UN Taareck access, lh!n it is paved. ,. er M-15~84 -SM11CRr cxxa; -Aequwtt for ..,pcoti1 of ~Eitlve u:idlvlalon 1111P and cad:ainim pa:llit 6x 100 unite a, the aouthweet: oomer of El Cal.no bal 1111! Alga lblld in the ll>-fll acne. Bill Baflllln, Principal Plamer, gave the pneentatioo M oanta1nec! in the staff Nport, uaing a tranaparency to Ihm tM ...,.,,._-t aite. '!hie project wa ~i~ with the ... cllnaity, and staff f90. __ rnded denial. lalbotis X Farrow X X Schlehuber X L'Beureux X 911dth X Marcus X McPadaen X I MINUTES llea!lllber 12, 1984 Page 11 Mr. flofaan med a wll uhibit ahowing the project and et:ated the lamer pl.an had a recreatioo ar:ea in the •• 1t and this wa a CXJnOem of the hcaeownera adjoining that area. 'lhe ~ign provided a larger ~oo area and added cne recreatioo area. llcMever, Ml". lbfaar\ stated it does not aeet design criteria, it ie cluttered, craped and staff cbes not lib the locations of the nicreetian areas. P'Of' exaple, the apa 1a located too cloae to Alga laid. In aNNer to caaiuian query, staff stated the project mat aet criteria atm&m:!8 in order to justify density above the llinilul. Chaiman IDiwotis q>erled the public hearing at 8:52 p.m. and iaued the invitatia'I to apeak. Mr. Don Aqatep, ,repreaenting Seapos:t, 2956 IoleeYelt, aMreu.ed the ca.iuian, stating staff had said the site wa auib!bl.e in Jint and wmted the recreatia'lal aenitiee internal. to the site. Mr. Agatep used m overlay m the site pl.an to ahow the changes mde in the t"eCnNltional facllitiee • indicated by staff and the neighbon. 'lhe eum nit has been left ftt landacaping at this tiae. All to density, Mr. ttqatep atat.ed the applic:mtt had tried to oontact the nei~ to find out their CXJIIOH'n8. Be d!ed thie IX'OP!rty had originally been acned ~rcial, and the Cmaisaioo felt it l«lUl.d be better • mlti-f•ily rather than cx.aercial. '1he traffic will be lN8 the way it ie planned now. Mr. A,gaup aadl the ca.iaioo to amounce its intentioo to return thie •tter to etaff to be returned to the IIFPlic:mtt tor oonditime tor awrovai. Mr. John Burat, 7204 Manunita Street, addressed the ca-1.uian, stating that density and traffic c.t:> not cp hand in han.!, and thie 1011.d result in mre can al lllnanita. Be stated there ie no pl.ace for dlildren to play, and there ie alrea!y a wter llhortage, and by bdlding m hmn, that will an that ahortal}e l«lnt. 'lhia pmjed. IIDul.d result in a drq> in value cf the pcqaty a!jaomt to this and IIDul.d change the entire at9a. Mr. 'lhcllae St:1'\Dle, 1705 Cannu Court, epoke in OllP)llitim to thie project, stating the nei~ rlNllld to ba pnaenoed. IIDtlble Ri ~--, Beaplil t Mitioo, l8ked about the ~ity of t!M. p.q.awd j11"oject. Mr. Agatep atatec! it IIDul.d be of equal er better cpality with t:hoN alreac!y thele. llr. &,gin, 1156 'l\ale Oourt, pointed out llhere bis hale --loaated cm t:ba wll chart, and ■u1ted there IIDul.d be ■Ingle t.ily --• leaking at three-etory t:w.ldinga • .. flalt t:be project .. too dlrllN. Mr. IDbert Beya-, 1154 'l\lle Court, 81:ated the Jlllll8 left bia ■trNt off, and he ~ the locatian al the -11 ...,. 11111 r.bjec.-till! to the putting indicated oo the new dlai9n 11111 the location of the truh bin■• ® I;. MINUTES Decellber 12, 1984 llr. lllll Ollberg, 7219 Nia>A Drive, l!lpdte againat thie pm~, Rating the density was to be re&oed aid it • 1 bad not been in the new plan. 'ftlere ism prorisicn fot- children, md they play in the streets at the preaent tble. Mr. tt,gan agreed that the mp was deceiving, md a buffer a:x1e was needed, with gradual transition into the llllti-f•ily mits, a,ay frca the single family hcaes. Mr. Rigel Clark, 7343 Aladen Lane, spoke in qipositiat to this project, stating it affects a large regiai of. La Caeta. He objected to the visual inpact aid felt it was not appu:.,pd•te fat-this area. Mr. Bolton added that ru me would buy his bane with a thl:ee etoey building behind it. Mr. Agatep l!lpdte in reapcnee, stating traffic in that nei~ would be the 8dllle regardless of the type of ~lqant at this cmner. 'fflis would be a quality ~ md he asked fat' approyal. He felt outricjlt danial .a not wrranted, md the applicant would rather n: liOdc: the project to wt the aJnOems of the neiC]hbon with regard to the heicjlt of the buildings aid the e• nt. Since m one else wished to speak m this item, the pmlic teetia:ny was ccncluded at 9: 19 p • .ra. 'l'he CXlNllft8U8 of the ac-1.ssiai was that this was mt a good pmject • preeented, too dense, md needed a viaual. buffer for the single f•ily residents. Oallliuloner MaroJe recmaeooed this project be sent badt to atafr. tile felt it re9911bled a row of barracks and muld be broken 'I> m. !lie aleo felt m lamalping -needed and the density needed to be t'dJald. It -felt the density ooul.d be increued gralaally frca the eouth to the north. a..1.-in llclmotia ~ the chlinant driveway situatiai needlld to be mn:e..."ted, and the project opened 14> m. !he applicmtt .. aated mat his preference was with ngmd to dlnial er retum for re wed •• llr. ~ nquaated the ca.isaiai return the •tter to ■taff 11111! allow the IIIJPlicmtt to re-design per hwt.mcttan■• ltaff -dlnctect to lldlh:w ooncema regarding -.tty, 11111! padwp ncb» it to bin er twlw mi.ta SIS ... Alao, the eet:bacb llbould be incna111! m Bl calnD and Alga a.1, with a tnnaiticn ma ■ingle fal.q ---Alga lml!. 'lhe n-de■i~ -t incllda ...... tbtUty with the ■ingle f•ily boi.1ae, by lOIMring the w-.t o1. the tuilding■ a tr.king 11> the tmracu --in the building■, 1nclui!ing the tblinaticn of the drl.-.. !tie 100-foot. •• at mat be apt and atep the aftlt■ chm flal that H■ n•. I I I I I I I I I MINUTES PINfiING CDIIISSICJif Deoellber 12, 1984 Page 13 7. !CA-17~9!:J -CITf CF CARlSW> -Alllenllw!nt to the IOning ~ Specific Plml 19 (car Cn.m:y) to allow the Plmning COlllissim to oonsider 1Binor IIIOdifioations to Sectim 21.41.07S(b) of the Sign Ordinlnoe. O\arlee Gria, Principal Planner, gave the repxt m this ita • CDttained in the staff report, stating this was the final draft setting a liai t m the nmber of dlitional freeeunding signs allowed. Chaiman Amllx>tis q,enec:'I the public hearing at 9:37 p.m. ~ iaaued the invitatim to speak. Since ro one wished to apeak en this it•, the public hearing was closed. Pllnling Cmllliaim adopted the following Resolutim: REEQDl'I(llf R>. 2339, R!JCDNH)IR; ~ CF A 7DiE CIDE Aiiliiaifti, Wni; TI'lU: 21, OIAPl'ER 21.41, SF.C'l'I(llf 075(b), CF '111B CUUSW> KJNICIPAL CXDB, '10 ~ '1BE ~LNIIDC CDIIISSICJif '10 a:NSIDER APPR)IJn«; Mnl)R tlDinCATICNS '10 'l1IB SPN:IN:; HQJIRl!M!Nl'S ot 'fflIS SECl'ICN, AR> m LIMIT '111B !IM3ER OF src:a; J.1Et411I i'tw m mrs S!Cl'ICN. o:.ai.aioner Schlehttier stated he had a oonflict of interest en Itel! 18, and left the dais. 8 • ™W" -N:N:.U.. APARlMl!Nl'S -Request foc a Plaming aim Detei:iiilnatim to c:tpptove conatructim of an 1fHaut !partfflent project and a variance to ndJoe the h:cntyard setbadt m these tnits 011 p:operty located en the oorth side of Acacia street between Garfield Street and washingtm Street in the R-3 scne. Mike Howee, Asaistmt Planner, gave the presentatim m this ita • CDttained in the staff report, using a location 11111P to show the site. ChaiZNn Rcah>tis opened the public hearing at 9:41 p.■• Ind iaued the invitation to speak. Nr. John Lamy, 2921 R:Joaevelt, addressed the oc.i•ion -the Architect fer the project. Be stated the illPllcmt mncurred with the <Xllditions and ~ of staff. Since no one elee villhed to apeak on this itm, the pd>].lc t1Ntiaany -ooncllded at 9143 p.■• cc-.t-akntr llcl'adllll, stated lhe had the eae 00n0em11 M Ille hllll on the 8Mr■M project. She said llhe CX>Uld not llgart this project. Planning cc-.tutm ~ the Negative Declaratim i...t by the Lind ON Pllnling Manager and n,pted the foUowlng Rllaolutlaru .w II>. 2392, APlllO'IDG .NI IR::REASB IN IJRlI'l'f tJl)lal '10 25.4 m•s,tM:B PC»t Ml 1IH:IUT \IIJ IJ. ! JIIOllD' <II .iiOPfm'I Q!NIRLLT UOffl!lD <II 'DIB -11111 OP IIDCIA 9'l'ID'I' lm1ISl!N <aRl"IBW 9l'la'l' NI> n •Nd■IIIB!'I'. amt •tam-Sml.m\i>er returned to the dais at thia tJa. Amllx>tis Farrow Schlehuber L'ReuEeux snith Marcus McFadden Rcah)tis Parrow Sc:hlehubar L'Beumus ad.th Nla:'CUa IU'alllart X X X X X X X X J J J J J J '. J ] MINUTES P[Rem«; CDIIISSI<Ji Decellt>er 12, 1984 Page 14 DISCXl3810i l'l'lllS: 9. PCl>-67 -&\RDIH; S'nEET APARDll!N'I'S -Request for a Plaming Ccailaalm Deterilnatlm for a tl«Hlnit apartaent project generally located oo the east side of eaming Sueet between PalJn Avenue and Magnolia Avenue in the R-3 a:,ne. Bill HOflmn, Principal Planner, gave the n!pOrt oo this ita -CJOntained in the staff report. Pl.an\ing ca..issioo appt<>ved the Negative Declaratim iaauec! by the Lind use Planning Manager and aoopted the following Reaolutioo: RBU1l'IOf ti>. 2396, APPIOTDG 1iN Dr:::REA',E IN DmSI'IY PIOI 4 m•s)Mx m 7 .32 m's/ACRE m AU.OIi 'DIE ~c.f C, A 'nD-tliIT APARl'Ml!Nl' <Ji PIOP8Rrt Gl!NBlW.LY ux:M'l!D Qi 'DIE F.AS'l' SIDE OF HARDIH; Sl'REf!'l' mffllBl!M ~ AV!HJE AR> MMX)LIA AVFHJE. At this point, Olaitlllllll Acllbotis thanked Bill Hofman, Principal Plamer, for the fine job he has <kine while a staff IBllber in the Lind use Planning office. INPCRIM'I<Ji 1'1'111: Bill eomn, Principal Planner, reported this material had l»erl distributed t.o the cannissioners for their perusal. Planing OW-1 ssia'l ~, er.ded the Council take this ita Inter CJOnSideratim, if they feel it is of interest. BLll.'ntll c, -OIADIWI: O'lW1 atoner Sc::hlehuber ncainated ca-1.ssioner Parrow for Olalman. OW-iuioner Saith eeoouded the nomnation. O'lW1 nioner Parrow was elected Chait1111n by ~ vote. Cbwiata.r Saith mai.nated ow-issioner Sc::hlehuber fer Vi~. oa..iuimer Parrow aeoonded the nomnatia'l. O'lW1 Ni.oner Schlehuber ws elected Vioe- Olainlln by~ vote. ,._ ldnutN ot tilt< Ne.: cer 14, 1984, Meeting wge 4JilkOM .. pn1■1ted. lt:lltx>tis Farrow Schlehuber L'Beurewr Smith Marcus McFadden Rlltlotis hrrolf Sc:blAlhuber L'e■uz.D Sllith Nllral8 ~, -~ MINUTES Decellber 12, 1984 Page 15 Mike Bolmiller, lald Use Pl ann 1nq Manager, reported m COUncil actia, taken wt ni<1ht. llP stated the prelillinuy IIDrk is bei.ncl cbne ~ r , ~art the Land Use Blaent redev. In the int eri.JTI , Council detet'lllined no projects IOlld be reccaaerx1ed for l!IR>roval above the llid1l()int of density range, ml.ess it <X>Ul.d be sham it IOlld not have a traffic or circulatia, i.npact. Mr. Holmiller stated COUncil Me!Der Lewis r,::aw11ded this actim, md had included not appro-.ring anything, anywhere, over aid-range mtil the General Plan had been reviwed, but Council narra,,ed this down. In answer to query, Mr. HolZllliller stated any projects already written'-" IOlld not be affected, but any other projects IOlld be affected. Mr. Holmiller reported that Council also decided not to accept: any GPA aA)licatioos during the General Plan Review. 'lbe anmdllents alreMy scheduled will~ fcxvard. However, any GPA that would oot affect the review, <X>Ul.d be rea::mnended to the Counc-i 1 for special cxinsideratim. In ooncl.usim, Mr. Holzmiller rep:,rted Council directed staff to tring bad. a report m growth-related policies to be l!IR>lied during the General Plan Review. Ccalissiooer McFadden stated that every Calmissiooer ahoul.d be invited to the Land use Review meetings and ahould receive minutes of all those Aeetings. Mr. Hol.zailler stated the Planning camdssim reocaaendatim to have staff prepare a report m how density is calculated and whether \Bldevelopable land is to be included, ws agreed~ also by City Council, and staff has been directed to prepare that report. AnnRIU!Nl': By proper mtim, the meeting of Deoemer 12, 1984, was adjoumed at 10:09 p.■• Paarectfully u:ait~, MID JD.DIILLBR Land ON PlaminQ Manager Bariett BlltJbitt N1rmta Clerk WIDGS ME AUD 'mPm> Al.:> mPT CN FILB CM'IL 'DIE MDL& ARE APIIIOIBD. • ~ SOUTH SHORES DEVELOPMENT CORP. December 10, 19811 Paul Klukas Planning Department City of Carlsbad Carlsbad City Hall 1 200 E Im A venue Carlsbad, CA 92008 Re: Carlsbad Beach Racquet Club ZC-308/CT 84-1 t /CP 283 Public Hearing-Wednesday, December 12, 1984 Dear Mr. Klukas: I received a notice of public hearing that you sent to me relative the above matter and I apprecate your follow through on this issue. I am extremely disappointed that the matter falls on the same night in which I have previously committed my- self in another city which would preclude me from appearing publicly at the hear- inq. Accordingly I am requesting that you carry my sentiments to the commission for their consideration while deliberating this particular issue. As I have stated in the past, I am not opposed to the orderly development of any of the property along the coast line for the City of Carlsbad. However I am strongly opposed to a deep density development which would not give considera- tion to the needed open space of the eventual occupants of any such development as well as impact the open space of adjacent properties. You will note that this property Is surrounded or I should say nearly adjacent to two mobile home parks. Solamar Mobilehome park is located on the north while just south of the proposed development is my park, Lanikal Lane Mobilehome park. Under present laws of the City of Carlsbad, it is highly unlikely that either of these mobllehome parks wl 11 be redeveloped Into any other useage than that of which they now maintain. There Is on the bc>,0ks of the City of Car·lsbad a mobilehome law which protects the residents of sald park at a time of redevelopment and with the terms of that law so in favor of the resident, the redevelopanent is made unlikely. I point this out to you as both of these developments are low profile properties which blend quite nicely with the overall coast line. To inject between them a high density high rise development would destroy the general contour of the coast line as well as Interfere with the o!)en space now provided by the nearly ~00 plus residents of the community of Carlsbad who reside ln these two mobilehome parks. It Is my pe,..sonal and professional opinion that any density of this property greater than ten units to the aero would be excessive and would not provide for the future level of acceptable living conditions for either the eventual residents of the created l.ANIKAI LANI: MoelLE HOME P.UIIK CAALSaAD CAull'OflNIA @ •-•. Paul Klukas O.C■mber 10. 191, •~g■ 2 project or the neighboring residents of the project. I flnnly believe that the Planning Commission of the City of Carlsbad should under the professional eye of the Planning Dt:,partment give special and detailed con- slmratlon to his entire remaining coast llne of our community. It ls cl•rly the responsiblllty of the Planning Commission to not only study density of this par- tlallar profect but as well its design, facade, color and texture. All of us that are Interested In the on-going development of Carlsbad and in parti- cular Its Planning Commissioners and elected councilmen should r•llze and recog- nize t t this open piece of coast line is a very pr ecious cormnodlty and as such Its development should be strongly scrutlnh:ed and highly controlled. While It may not be germane to the points that I set forth, I feel it is somewhat Interesting to note that this position is taken by me after having spent 35 years In the real estate de•.-elopment business, I field in which I still practice. 1 am eminently famlllar with the demands placed upon developers by other communities and thus I recognize and know the responsibilities that should be yours In this particular instance. I would greatly appreciate this letter being distributed to the members of the Planning Commission prior to their public nearing and I have enclosed copies ofr that purpose. Very truly yours, cc : Mary Casler, Mayor Frank Aleshire, City Manager-