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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-04-24; Planning Commission; MinutesMEET I II. OF: DATZ CR HEETII«.: TIME OF P1EETIN:i : PL1iCE CR HEE'l'lte: MINUTES PLAM-IJN:i a:HtISSIOO ~ril 24, 1985 6 :00 P .11. City Council O\ambers CALL TO OR>ER: rtle meeting was called to order t.,y Vice--Olaicnan Schlehuber at 6 :00 p.JJ1. Pteaent: Vice-0\airman Schlehuber, Cmmissiooers Rallbotis, Harcus, Snith, l'tFadden .uid L'Heureux. ~t: Oiaiman Farrow. Staff Hl!mbers Present: Dan Clark, OeVelopnent En,lineer Olarles Grimn, Principal Planner Hike HOhmiller, Land uae Planning Manager Hike ttcMes, AsSOCiate Planner Dan ttentachlte, AasiSta."'lt City Attorney Brad rtlerrian, Principal Civll E):¥Jineer Vioe-O'lahman 9:hlehuber called attention to the Pl.anning Omniasion Procedures being shown on the acreen and asked the au:iieooe to take II few minutes to read thsll. 1. ~ 84-42 -~ PIICXARD -Request for approval of a five lot au@lvision on a l. 78 acre parcel located on the aouth aide of Tamarack: Avenue be~n 1ldans Street and Highland Drive in the R-1-7500 zone. Hike HoleS, M90Ciate Planner, gave the presentation on this itm as contained in the staff report, usinJ a tranaparenc:y ahOwinJ the ai te. He d iacus!led the bec:kgroum of this it811 and explained that the o:-luion directed staff to meet vi th the applicant and al!jacent pcoperty <Mlera to reaolve the iuues in quution ea! pcot1ide for a permanent cul~sac:. 0:laiuioaer Marcua asksS for clarification te94[dio:J actual split of the lot.a and Hike HOlileS responded to her CJ,ll9Stion. OC-iuiorier Pt::hddeo <JJ88tioned condition tl0 on page 4 ncp.airing t1 llini-.. 2Sl of the lot.a with ~te sideyard an& for aecr•tional Vehicle storage. She indicated that in vi• of the cul~uc and the aall lot frontagea, lhe tbaulJht the llini-.. could be inci:eued. Mike Hr:Mee nipU.S that it could be inc:reua! if the OC-iuion wntlld to increue the percentage of lot.a required to pEC'<Tidl, ~ta sideyald area for Recreational Vehicle storage. Vioe-<llaiman Schlehuber opened the plblic hellring at 6:10 p.a. and i~ the invitation to apealt. . MINUTES April 24, 1985 Page 2 Debbie Kato, 2004 SUbida Terrace, carlsbad, spoke on behalf of Brad an:! Roaemary Johnston. She thanked the Cl:mllis.sioo for responding to their concerns arrl stated that she supported the proJoct. She also thanlted the applicant for the redesign of the project. Von Packard, 4021 Crescent Point Road, carlsbad, expressed his thanks to the City staff arrl to the l~t owners for working with him to resolve the problmis. He urged the Omnission to approve the project. OmDissioner Slli th stated that he hlld sane concerns involving hauling C"equiranents arrl asked the City ~ineer i ! they would approve a proposed haul C"Oute for d i rt thr()U}h Tamarack instead of S}ffle Drive. Hr. Paclt.ud pointed out that there would be no import of dirt. With regard to hauling building supplies, he recaa:iended usin;i S}ffle Drive to avoid congest ion off of Tamarack. Caimi ssione.r 911 i th , ec<111uen.led using Tamarack unless the F.ngineering staff felt that it was not necessary. Hr. Packard explained that h.,uling on S}ffle Drive would be preferable fran a safety point of view. Since no aie clae wished to speak on this i te:n, the p.ibl ic testimony was concluded at 6: 15 p.m. Ca:111 iasioner L' Heureux l i sted his o:,ocerns. With regard to condition t29, he didn't feel this was necessary since t~re ..are no private streets. He mentioned that with r8Ja[d to oond it ion t26, physical improvements should be required along Tl!marack Avenue since they were required fur the pcoject across the street. Regarding conHtion t33, he wa. concerned that there should be vane ltirrl of requinment for taaporary laroacaping on the renaiooer parcel ainoe it llllB a large lot arrl could be vacant for a long period of time. 0:Jmliaaioner ft:Padden indicated that she was al80 ccncerned about Talarack Avenue aro that she felt is oeeded to be illlprovild !"!Qw. She pointed out that condition 110 requiring 251 for recreational vehicles should be inc:reued. OC-.iuioner Saith asked for camienta fran the Engineering staff regarding hauling of building materials, Brad 'l'herrian, Principal Civil Engineer, stated that it could be addr--1 -,.., the developer canes in for pemita. OC-.iuionar Ralb>tia cpestioned O:Jmaiaaioner 9Dith if hie •jor ccx:aoern wa with major hauling. O:m.isaioner 9Dith inSieated that it IIU. Olaiuicnar Saith 3Slted O:Jmaisaioner L'Heureux if tap,rary eroeicn ooatrol ~-wnt eat!•f-.;tory w 0..1•1aaer L'Heurem replied that it wa, al80 frm a vi-1 standpoint. MINUTES April 24 , 1985 Page 3 Vice-0\aiman Schlehuber queried the ~lnP.erlng staff if' there was an adequate cul-d&-sac and Brad Therrian replied that it -.a satisfactory since it met all mlnim\Jn requi~ts. CClallisaioner 11arcus brought 1-i> the subject of recreational vehicles un:ier cordition UO ard M.ilte ltoltmiiller, Lam Uae Planning 11anager, explai ned the reuon for the addition of this con:lition and pointed out that it waa not really a zoning requirement. He stated that the peroenta)e could be increased vi thout any problan. CClalliaaioner Rcmx>tis also mentioned that lots 3 and 4 had a 12' S)GI.£ ea-,t an:! would accanllCXSate two lots. Plaming Omnission adopted the following Resolution: R!SCUn'I(II t«;). 2419 ~IC A l"lVE LOI' 501l>IVISICII OF A. l. 7l:i ACt£ PARa:L CII PRa>ERTY GDIBRALLY L0O.'I'ED <II 'niE OOO'ffl SIDE OP TM9.R1tCIC AVPJIJE BE'lWEEN ADN-fi STREET NI'.> HIGHI.W> DRIVE. With the following changes: Modify condition 126 to include per:nanent improvements on Tama.rac:lt Avenue. Pb!ify condition 133 to include teaiporary erosion C'Ol'ltrol mMaures on the ranaining parcel subject to the satisfaction of the Land Uae Planning Nanager. Modify condition 120 to include -,here pos3ible, all building materials viU be acx:eaaed througt, 'I'alllarack Avenue. !lelete cord i tion 129 • Modify oor)l;ii tion tlO to change 251 to 501. ll8f RILIC HPR!IESt 2. Pa>-17(Dk.tPSISTZR -Aequeat for an wsldmeut to lot 1, of• pnvl y approv9d industrial Plannm onit o.v.J.qamt locatad on the eut side of Awnida r.ncinaa, approaiaat:ely 600 ~-eouth of cannon Aoad in the 11" zone. Owrla Grim, Principal Planner, gave the pre9a1t.,t ion on tbJ.a ita u cootaiim in the ataff report, using a t:ramparenc:y to llbow the aite and a ..U map to show the ptcpwd projct. Be aplairm:! that thia projec:t _. 0d91nally for four build~1• but had ~ <:hanged to one buildillq. Ha c'!ecm_, 11:axf' • corx:euw regarding the buildillq aita, aid indicated that staff fe¢I n'led 4111Pf.Ctal of the project. 0-SNianer Pl::ftdclet. Uad if there .. ll/ll'j lp9Cial noi• ait.ipt.ioo in the atructurot and Olarl• Griaa reapocdad by atat:i!li that thee wun't a a>aditian regarding ooi•. O-!•lomr 811th ulra1 if the b90 driYe1t11ya were w.aaated, ..S llhat the di•t.lnce -■ betwea tt.a. Brad fllaaim, Pdt.:ipal Civil lngineer, ccnfitmd that b90 Schletllber I Rallbotis X X Harcus X 91lith X lt::P'adden I L'Heureux X MINUTES .-.pril 24, 1985 Page 4 driveways -re warranted, and further stated that the left driveway Wl!IS for future developnent use as a Joint access. O\arles Gr!Jrm saphasized that there was really only one drive,,ay on the site since the other ale was actually on another lot to the south. Vice-Ol!licuan Schlehuber opened the ~l ic heari~ at 6:30 p.m. and isaued the invitation to speak. Jeanette Engel, 4 Opper NewpOrt Plaza Drive, ~rt Beach, represented Meister Oevelopnent Group ard irdicated that she ogreed witll otaff's report. She indict.ted her desire to address cordition f23 regarding the lr,cal drainage area. She stated that she urderstood that the fee 11111y have already been paid when the existing subdivision map was recorded at an earlier date. o:nmissioner tt:Padden aslted Ks. Engel about noise mitigation, and also queried Ms. Engel as to whether any arrangenents -,ere made for an ~loyee lunch area in the developnent. Ms. Engel responded by saying that there was a bench available for seating (po.inting to the location on the map) and that there was also an area in the ~k which oould possibly be opened for that type of use. Tea Aubrey of Kramiennoek, ~, A8$Qeiates, 1515 ~ Bouleva.rd, San Diego, architect for the project, a?UNered various questions regarding the noise issue. He explained that the windows would be sealed and canpared the building to the Coldwell Banker buildlng in the same area. He aaphaaized that he did not foresee any problan vith noiae. Caaiuioner ~ mentioned that It was very noisy stan:SitJ;J in the parking lot. Hr. Aubrey pointed out that the noiae fraai the free-y was reduoa1 lllwl the doors wre clo911d. 0:aduicner l't::Fadr:Sen also aalted about employee eating uw an:! in reapc,nae to her query, Hr. Aubrey indicated that it 1'0Uld be poeaible to lni;lude an Elll)loyee eoting area after caml.iuianer lblbotis deecribed an area on the aide "1are it would be adequate for this pu:po9e. Mlrk IIOrdquist, 580 8ee::t'I Avenue, carubad, rapreaenta1 the pcoperty ownara to the north of the project and a!r....S coaditian t32 ia!icating that the property ownara vialm to have accea off the drivewiy. He amticx-1 tlwy did not viah to bold the developer up on the project. NI. llllJel ttNpcded t,y gitvitJ;J the badtgroum coaoernt:ng a joint drivaay, atati:ng that originally .ta, contact ... ~ pnvioualy with the Winters regarding a joint dd,rway, the wtnt.rs irdicatm they .-ren't intereated • .. 00DtUllaS an to aay that thia,.. the reuan the -.iopar ~ the ddn..y u w IMl'f fma the 1t1ntan• PEOPEty line aa poeaible. st. further atatied that can:Utian t32 toot care of the probl• of future 8ICl0N8 8l'lL'1 therefore ehe would not like to aee the pr:oject bald ~ at t:hia stage. © MINUTES April 24, 1985 Page 5 Since no one else wished to speak on this i t sn, the public testimony was closed at 6:40 p.m. Coll!li ssi oner L' Heureux asked what the di ff er= was between conditions 112 and t38, and Olarles Grilnn replied that they were basically the s.rne. Camiasioner L'Heureux also asked if condition 128 reg.srding private driveways was nee,,ed, and Brad Therrian replied that it was not necessary. camliaaioner Hc-Plld:3en queried what lcin:l of languaqe was needed to aslt that noise attenuation constru=tloo be put in and Vic:e-0\lli tman SChlehuher replied that tnere was a staooaro condition confining it to 45 decibels ot less. Planning Ocmllis,i i..>n approved the following Resolution: RESOLOrIQi ti:". 2'33 APPRCWll<i AN A~ TO LOT 14 OR PlD-17 ro PEJ-,"'UT CXNS'l'RIX:TIOO OF AN OFFICE OOIU>l!C Qi Pla>ER!'Y GfHII.AALLY ux:ATED ~ ffiE EAST SIDE OF Avn.to.\ D«:INAS 8E"l'W!ZN PAI.OWl .\IRPORT ROAD AK> ~ ROAD. With the following changes: Condition 123 be cnodified to i n:l1cate that if the local drainage area fee had already been paid, the applicant should get cted it • Coniiticri 128 be deleted. Conditions tl2 and 138 be reconciled. A coniit1on be added requiring provisioo of an enployee lunch araa designed of adeqJa te a i ze and access ibi li ty and to the satisfaction of the Land use PlaMing KMw,ger. A coniition be added providing noise attenuation to 45 decibels in the interior of the building. 3. CllP'-270 -OtOI -Request for approval of a Conditional oae Pemit to allow a talte--<>ut sarnwich shop at 2235 l"arw' ~Y Avenue in the !toll Bul'liness Park in the c--M :r.oae. Kike ttcM!e, Asaociate Planner, gave the preeentation oo this itlD u oontal~ in the staff re90rt, using a tranparenc:y to show the site. He stated that the only ocnc.rne stall had .re regarding parking and, aa a r.awt, four conditions of approval were set up to alleYiate that ~obl•. Vic:e-QMliman SChlehubet opened the pmlic hearing at 6:45 p.a. Since no or. wished to speak on this item, the public tntiaony ,.. closed at that time. PlaminlJ o-iulon approwd the Negative Declaration iuuai by the Land O• Planning~ and adopted the followiniJ llilllolution: IISUJ'PICII II). 204 APPll'NIIC A CXH>I'l'IQW. OSI P!lltl"l' 10 'AUJM A '!Ml 00T SMIJNIOt SID a. PR:>Pl!RTY Gl.HEPIULY l.00.'lW) 1tf 2235 P'ARNlA! AVDIJ!. SChlehuber JI Ralt>otis X Harcus I 911it.h X HcF'adden X L'Heureux X X SChlebubc ll Rmboti• ll Muc:ua ll 91.ith ll ll ~-l L'ltllureua ll MINUTES April 24, 1985 4. CT 85-5 -SNffA FE mx.J..5 -Request for a 73 lot Tentative Tract Mllp locatoo along the east side of Mision Estaneia, 90Utherly of the proposed intersection of La COSta Aven>e and Hision &s~ia in the P-C zone. Olarles Grimn, Principal Planner, m.,de reference to the propoaed revision to conhtion tll aro stated that there 11a111 an additional modification -the wot:ding needed to be changed fran •top of slope to back of lot• to •top of slope to back of sidewalk". He proceeded to give the ptetleOtation on this itan as contained in the staff report, and U9ed a transparency to show the s1 te and a wll map to show the proposed project. He mentioned that this wa the third phase of an old tentative map and de8cribed the changes fran the previous tentative map. 0:mniaaioner L'Heureu.11 asked about the revised coroition Ill and vtry lots 200 to 207 were included. Olarles Gritml respardaS by describing the intent of this ~ition and agreed that "11idaal1t• might not be the appropriate word to be U9ed. CXllmi saioner L • tteureux aslroo what the d if ferenoe was bea.en the yellow ard green areas on the map and wanted clarification of what the haueowners would maintain. Olarlea Grimn replied ttrd stated that the interior lots were not as critical. omaisaioner Snith asked about comition '40 aro direct acx:,eaa cighta Caal•ioner ~ CJ,Jetied oov much open space was there to the east, and Olarles Grimn replied that the size hlld not yet been determined but would be durir,;i developaent of that area. 0-iaaioner 91.ith asked if it ,ea necessary to include caa1ition 156, and Omlea Grm anaweted that it wem't necea■ary. Vioe-Qaiman Sc::hlehuber opened the PJb1 ic hear ir,;i at 6:55 p.a. and i---5 the invitation to epealr. Paol Graba, 7682 El c.ino Aaal, Carlsbad, repre9ented La Costa Hotel , Spa, and aplained that he understood the CXJnOUDS of tbe planners arxS therefore reo ded that a Mintenanca diatt ict be fomm for this particular oonidoz: lllbich wu1d t.alte oare of all of the alopes facir,;i StaqecOacb Park. O-iuicner IUlbotia auggest:ed that the 0:mnisaion give tba tha option of either fam.ing a hcaeo.fter'a aaociatian OE a •intenance diattict. Paul Gcaha ulla5 if the City ..ould ~rt the -~ -Siatrict am Vice-Qiaiman sc:bleblber espl.ahm tblat the 1■-would be diaculsad before it w. ~ OD. 81nce 00 am el• wiat.S to speak on this itaD, the public ~.taany .a 000Clmed at 6 :55 p.a. MINUTES ~ril 24, 1985 Page 7 Coallissiooer L'lieureux said that C'Ondit1oos tl7 and tSS needed to be reconciled. He also stated that he was concerned that condition tll as written in the staff report and condition '32 were in c-onflict. He mentioned that the revi sed condition didn't address the size of the slopes at all, bot Brad 'nlerrian, Principal Civil ~ineer, clarified the teminology for him. cam.issioner L'lieureux referred to the discussion on itan tl regarding 251 for recreational vehicle parking and asked if it was sufficient that it was in the master pla,n. O\arle• GrilllD indicated that it ~s part of the original La COstan muter plan, and in addition, there was adEQUate sp.x:e on most of the l ot:s. Cl::mlliasioner L'Heureux also pointed out that COR!ition t4S regarding private driveways was not needed, nor was condition 156. Q:mnissioner L'Heureux asked about c:orx,ition t40 on page 7 and Brad 'nlerrian explained that. the intent was that the street be the only point of acce-ss into Kision Estancia. CIJmissioner L'Heureux requested that sanet.hing be done about changing the names of the streets. Crmaissioner L'Heureux q>e5tioned whether the riparian woailand habitat IIIOUl.d be fenced off and O\arles Grimn replied that the plarui -.ere to leave it in i t.s natural at.ate and not fen,;e it off. Ctraaliaaiooer L' tteureus expreseed conoern that dogs, children, etc. might hail1l the area and O\arles Gruzm stated that a fence could be included. Vice-Chaianan Sch.leBlber aalted Dan Hentach>te, Assistant City Attorney, for his thought.JI regarding the proposed uae ,t district. 0ml Hentach>te stated that i t ..ould be all right to act one up. Planning Cclllaiaaion approved the Negative Declaration illllU:.Jd by t.he Land O• Planning Manager and adoptad the following Raeolution: RBIIXDl"IC. ID. 2'31 APPR71IIC A 73 tm TENTATIVB TRACT~ CII PICFikli GIN!PNLI ux:::>.TID ~ fflE £ASr SID! C'6 KISION IS'IMCA, SX7ffl!IILt ~ 'l'HE Pm!D Lit CXlSTA AVPJIJB, KISION BSfMCIA IWIDSECt'l~. With the follow~ ~: 0:laditiaa fll be rewcked to provide Ln eaenoe that the ee ,._ al01D9 NUian Estancia that bottler lot.a U2-US be •intahm eittwr by a twwrar'• uaociation or a •intmm diatrict, am that •intrm be frm the top of tbe slope tlO the t.:tt of the aidew.l.k, and that wrding pertaininrJ to lots 200 1:0 '207 be rewrked to indicate that t:hare ta no ai~, aad that the slopes al.«> be aintaimd by either a,,,,.......,,. aaoc:iatian or a Mintmm district. Oxditiaa t40, botua of~ 7, !-.eds to be clarified or r...oa:laS and the rat of the corditiona be cer'Qlbeted. 0:laditiona HS, 155, aad 156 be deleted. Schlehuber X Rmbotia z Marcus X saith I ~ I L'Hauruell ll 11 • ~- r \ MINUTES Pl.Altilt«; cx:M{ISSION April 24, 1985 Page 8 ltodify comitioo t24 to include requirEIDE!!'lt for fencing, subject to the approval of the Laro Uoo Planning Karaqer. Dis:lJSSION IT™-5 s. uetter, Native Sun Dan Hentac:hlte, ~isbnt City Attorney, gave an oral report on thia item ard iooicated that the concerns regarding this item were resolved. He stated that the cam.iuion had no power to do what was requested at the last cami-ion meeting and that when he met with the City P.nginMr, it was detemined that the applicant was requesting a major subHvision change. Dan Hel'ltschke stated that the applicant chose to sub:ni t a design to the Engineering Department and that if the applicant wanted to file a final map, there was nothing the Omnisaion could do on the project. camiasioner L'Heureux referred to minutes o! the general plan review board meetings ard asked Hike H012'!liller, Lam U8e Planning Manager, to provide him with 1110re minutes. cam.iaioner Snith pointed out that these could be obtained at the library. He also suggested that the Caimittee will be wiooing ~ de.liberations oo June ltd, ard that the Plan IIIOUld be brought to the Planning CmmiSJSion on the 12th, and if oec::euary on the 19th. He wondered if the camiss ion could have more than a "88ltend to review the Plan, pouibly a t:wO welt period. O:amiaaioner L'Heureull aslted Hike H<>l2'1liller specific ~tiona u to how the deliberations were ccming together, and Hike HOlzmiller explained that only b10 issuee remained outstanding at thia time. He mentioned that there wre only three meetings left, ard that they •Y be able to get a draft of their report after the .!0th aioce no more business will be diac:uaaed after that. 0:-iaaioner Saith a.sited if anyone vould be available at the Plmmiog Office on the day of the camliaion ameting to iwviev itll!IIII. Vi~iman SC:hl~ '41d 9Clll(!0ne frca ataff would be available on the 'l'Ue9day before the Oclaiaaico meting to amM!I' technical questions. By ~ a:>tico the llll!leting of April 2~, l985 was .Sjaurn.! at 7:10 p.a. ~~ Laad 0-Plmning Manager lmth Stark Mimt:aa Cler'k WuGS US At&>~ Nm DPT QI FILE l.lffIL mB P1DIOTES 18 u+RNil> •