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PLANNING COMMISSION
6:00 p.m.
May 20. 1987
City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS
. CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Marcus called the Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Marcus.
ROLL CALL:
Present - Chairman Marcus, Commissioners Hall, Holmes,
McBane, McFadden, Schramm, and Schlehuber
Staff Members Present:
Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director
Gary Wayne, Senior Planner
Nancy Rollman, Associate Planner
Bobbie Hoder, Senior Management Analyst
Phil Carter, Senior Management Analyst
Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney
Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer
David Hauser, Assistant City Engineer
PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES:
Chairman Marcus reviewed the Planning Commission procedures
for the benefit of the audience.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THE AGENDA:
There were no comments from the audience.
AGENDA ADDITIONS. DELETIONS OR ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED:
At the request of Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning
Director, Information Item Nos. 8) and 9) were moved
ahead of Public Hearing Item Nos. 6) and 7).
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1) ZCA-198 - CITY OF CARLSBAD (PC ZONE - PARKS An
amendment to the Planned Community (PC) zone of the
Zoning Ordinance (1) to add new provisions regarding
Master Plan community parks requirements and timing, and
(2) to include provisions that all Master Plans be
required to address four separate categories of open
space as identified by the Citizens Committee for the
review of the Land Use Element of the General Plan.
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the
background of the request and stated that on March 18 the
Planning Commission continued ZCA-198 so that staff could do
more research on Section 21.38.060(5) of the proposed
ordinance amendment. Staff now recommends that this section
be modified to require (A) that the developer enter into a
recordable agreement with the City at the time of Master Plan
approval promising to dedicate the park area prior to the
first final map; (B) actual dedication sometime between the
adoption of the tentative map and approval of a final nap;
(C) the master plan to include the location of the park, a
biological and soils analysis of the site along with a
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culture (sic) resources inventory and any other environmental
reports as may be required by the Planning Director, and a
conceptual development plan of the park to the satisfaction
of the Parks and Recreation Director; and (D) a written
statement whether or not the park site has ever been used for
the disposal or storage of toxic wastes.
Chairman Marcus inquired if paragraph C should be corrected
to read "cultural" instead of "culture" and was advised that
cultural was correct.
Commissioner McFadden inquired if the first final map means
the master plan itself and Mr. Grimm replied that, generally,
the first final map in a master plan means the master
tentative map, which subdivides the area into neighborhoods
rather than specific lots.
Commissioner McBane referred to the language of the
ordinance, Exhibit A, Subsection 060(1)(C) which reads, "An
integrated open space program that is at least fifteen
percent of the total master planned area..." and inquired if
this referred to non-environmentally constrained developable
area. Mr. Grimm replied that this percentage referred to the
total area of the master plan. Michael Holzmiller, Planning
Director, added that the Growth Management Plan states
non-environmentally constrained developable area but that it
is referring to an open space requirement for an entire zone
rather than a master plan which is contained within a zone.
They are two different standards.
Commissioner McBane stated that the first edition of the zone
code amendment specified a constraints map requirement and
wondered if this was no longer necessary. Mr. Grimm replied
that the intent of the geological and biological surveys is
the same but that the Commission may want to specifically
mention a constraints map.
Chairman Marcus declared the continued public hearing open
and issued the invitation to speak.
There being no person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Commissioner Schlehuber felt that Commissioner McBane's
concern about a constraints map is adequately covered by the
requirement for a conceptual development plan approved by the
Parks and Recreation Director.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve
the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director
and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 2627
approving ZCA-198, based on the findings and subject
to the conditions contained in revised staff report
dated May 20, 1987, and, further, to replace the word
"culture" with "cultural" on page 2, line 16, of the
ordinance amending Title 21, Chapter 38, Section 060 of
the Carlsbad Municipal Code.
2) CUP 87-1 - ZAPPCO DEVELOPMENT - A request to approve a
conditional use permit to allow a manager's residence at
a warehouse facility in the PM zone.
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the
background of the request for a manager's residence in the
Carlsbad Airport Centre located north of Palomar Airport Road
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and stated that this item was continued so that the liability
issue of approving a residence in the airport flight activity
area, contrary to the McClellan Palomar Airport plan, could
be investigated.
Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney, stated that approval or
denial of this application should be consistent with the
comprehensive land use plan. If approved, he recommends that
the applicant be required to execute a recordable document
stating that he will not sue the City or the Airport for any
claim, liability, damage, nuisance, or inverse condemnation
claim arising from the legitimate and lawful operations of
that facility.
Commissioner Schlehuber inquired whether a hold harmless
agreement would be appropriate but Mr. Ball replied that a
hold harmless would not prevent third party suits, whereas a
recordable covenant would bind any person in privity with the
landlord.
Commissioner McFadden inquired whether the signed agreement
would bind future employees of the applicant and Mr. Ball
replied that third parties would be put on notice if the
document is recorded. He further stated that a condition of
the CUP could require employees to acknowledge existence of
the recorded covenant and operations of the airport.
Commissioner Holmes inquired if this condition would run with
the land and Mr. Ball replied that a recordable document
would cover this provision.
Chairman Marcus declared the continued public hearing open
and issued the invitation to speax.
Don Agatep, a Planning Consultant representing the applicant,
ZAPPCO Development, addressed the Commission and stated that
it was his understanding that the public hearing was
continued to discuss the propriety or impropriety of having a
resident manager on the site. He inquired if the applicant
withdrew the request to place a manager's residence on the
site, would the City Attorney's comments still apply to all
the employees as well as the potential tenants of the storage
facility and, if so, would a CUP still be required.
Mr. Ball replied that if there is no request for a CUP then
there can be no requirement for the applicant to file a
recordable document and his comments would not apply.
Mr. Agatep then inquired if the applicant would be permitted
to have an employee on the site 24 hours a day to monitor
security without actually living on the premises. Mr. Ball
replied that the only reason a CUP is required is to satisfy
the request to locate a residence in a PM zone.
The applicant withdrew his request for a conditional use
permit.
There being no other person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to accept Hall
the withdrawal of applicant's request for CUP 87-1. Holmes
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
3) DC 87-1 - KATES - An appeal of the Planning Department's
denial of a large residential daycare permit on property
located at 4104 La Portalada Drive.
Charles Grinan, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the
background of the request and stated that the City's
ordinance and state law do permit by right a small daycare
home for up to six children in a single family zone. The
ordinance permits a large daycare home (7-12 children) in
single family zones with a daycare permit. The permit
ensures that the large daycare home is compatible with the
surrounding area and does not cause traffic, parking, or
noise problems.
Staff recommends denial because it is felt that the property
does not have adequate ingress and egress to ensure the
dropping off and pickup up of children, the daycare facility
would increase traffic and parking on a low density,
residential cul-de-sac street, the play area for 12 children
would cause adverse impacts to adjacent property, and the
daycare facility in general would not be compatible with the
surrounding neighborhood.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
Georgine Brave, 444 West "C" Street, Suite 200, San Diego,
counsel for Richard and Vickie Kates, addressed the
Commission and stated that she also represents the San Diego
Family Daycare Association, composed of over 4,000 family
daycare providers, and the Childcare Resource Service which
receives State funds from the YMCA. She quoted the State
law. Health and Safety Code Section 1597.30 through 1597.65,
which states that cities cannot forbid or restrict family day
care homes on lots zoned for single-family dwellings and that
local ordinances must prescribe reasonable standards and take
into account noise levels generated by children. She
maintains that denial of a 12-child facility is an
unreasonable standard since a couple could have 12 children
of their own and not be forced to move out of their home.
She also stated that many cities in San Diego County and
California currently allow 12-child facilities to be located
on cul-de-sacs and that the law was enacted to provide
children of working parents the same home environment as
provided in a traditional home setting.
Commissioner Schlehuber inquired which section of the code
covers traffic impact and Georgine Brave replied that traffic
is included in reasonable standards, Section 1597.46(3), and
that Mr. Kates, a traffic police officer, will be addressing
the traffic situation.
Richard Kates, 4104 La Portalada, Carlsbad, applicant,
addressed the Commission and stated that he and his wife had
purchased their home in November 1984 and in April 1985
became licensed for a 6-child daycare home. In October 1986,
they obtained a license for 12 children and attempted to
acquire a business license through the City of Carlsbad. They
processed the necessary paperwork and were granted tentative
approval; denial by the Planning Director was received in
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April 1987. Mr. Kates presented a diagram of the area,
explained the available parking, stated that he has widened
his own driveway to accommodate three vehicles, and presented
the traffic count of a traffic study which he recently
conducted on a typical Monday and Thursday. He indicated
that he was willing to mitigate anything reasonable and would
even be willing to replace his chain link fence with a wooden
fence. He requested that the Planning Commission overturn
the Planning Director's recommendation for denial.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the hours of the daycare
home and Mr. Kates replied that it operates from 7:00 a.m. to
6:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, and is normally closed on
holidays.
Due to the full gallery. Chairman Marcus requested that a
central spokesperson be appointed to speak for each side of
the issue to avoid repetition.
Terry Kavanaugh, 3975 Highland Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that her 2 year old daughter had been
cared for since 4 mos. of age by Vickie Kates and said she
could not stress enough the high esteem she holds for Mrs.
Kates and her staff. Mrs. Kavanaugh, a licensed
psychotherapist, stated that she represents a group of united
parents, all of whom are in attendance, whose children are
being cared for at the Kates' day care home, and that letters
of support have been written to the Planning Commission.
Because of her profession in evaluating abused children, she
is quite familiar with area day care facilities and she
stated that the high quality care being rendered by the Kates
should be given prime consideration. She stated that parents
receive constant reminders about vehicle safety, observing
speed limits in the cul-de-sac, and parking requirements.
She requested the Planning Commission to rescind the denial.
Chairman Marcus requested a show of hands in favor of the
Kates which was 27.
Lois Pearson, 3910 Trieste Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that she lives on the street above the
Kates at Lot 126. She has three children of her own, her
husband is a day sleeper, and she has no objection to the day
car* horn*. She appreciates that Mrs. Kates can care for her
own children at home while providing a second income and that
other children can also benefit from the home environment.
She closed by stating that she believes as strongly about
senior centers as she does day care and feels there is no
substitute f*r the home environment.
Herbert Falkenstein, 4108 La Portalada, Carlsbad, addressed
the Commission and stated that he is representing the
neighbors in the cul-de-sac who live at 4105, 4106, 4107, and
4110 La Portalada, as well as the next-door neighbor of the
previous speaker on Trieste, and it is the consensus of these
adjacent neighbors that the day care home is a nuisance
situation. He docs not understand the discrepancy between
the show of hands and the children being cared for. Further,
he feels that a business venture has no place in a
residential zone. He feels the venture impacts real estate
values and cited problems such as limited parking, heavy
traffic, parking jams, safety hazards for children, and
excessive noise. He requested the Commission to deny the
Kates request.
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Lester Gusnard, 4110 La Portalada, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that his wife has spoken earlier and he
does not feel the area is safe for children due to the
excessive vehicular traffic. They have lived in the area
approximately ten years and the Kates moved to the area just
two years ago.
Paul Wilkin, 4107 La Portalada, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that the only automobiles visiting his
home are from his wife's bridge club which meets monthly. He
is concerned about traffic enforcement should the Kates
permit be issued.
Herbert Falkenstein, 4108 La Portalada, Carlsbad, returned to
the podium and stated that he questions the sincerity of the
applicant since the neighbors have made numerous requests of
the Kates to correct parking and only recently did they even
acknowledge their request.
There being no other person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Commissioner Holmes stated that he visited the area recently
from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. and again in the afternoon. He
observed adequate parking facilities and both times there was
minimal traffic, two cars arrived and four left. In his
opinion, the homes in the area are large which, in itself,
denotes children and homes with families will always produce
noise. He has no problem with the daycare permit.
Commissioner Schlehuber visited the daycare home and reported
that it was a well-kept facility and he did not observe much
noise nor traffic problems but he cannot disregard the
testimony of neighbors. He feels we need this type of
daycare in Carlsbad, that the ordinance meets the
requirements of the State law, but that 7-12 children would
probably impinge on the rights of other children in the
neighborhood and, therefore, he cannot support it.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the time limit of the
permit and Charles Grimm replied that it would be at the
discretion of the Commission. As far as enforcement, they
could only respond to complaints.
Commissioner McFadden desired the record to show that she has
also heard testimony on this matter as a member of the Child
Care Task Force, and has heard the same comments on both
occasions. She is in sympathy with the problem of traffic
and parking but feels there is ample space available to pick
up and drop off children but would like to see the employees
continue to park out of the cul-de-sac. She would like to
see the staff return with a recommendation for a large
daycare home for a one-year trial period.
Commissioner Hall inquired if a wooden fence would eliminate
or improve the noise problem. Commissioner McBane replied
that it was his understanding that the neighbor at 4103
La Portalada, the side with the chain-link fence, has not
complained by letter or testimony.
Chairman Marcus stated that although she has no problem with
the noise, she does have trouble with the traffic, parking,
and compatibility and, therefore, cannot support the permit.
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Commissioner Hall inquired how many cars Mr. Falkenstein had
seen parked improperly at the end of the cul-de-sac at once
and he replied that he has seen as many as six cars at one
time. One neighbor counted 15 vehicles entering the
cul-de-sac, one after another, on one afternoon but the
figure varies from day to day.
Commissioner Hall inquired about the unbearable noise and
Mr. Falkenstein stated that most of it came from the back
yard. Other persons will be speaking to that point.
Agnes Gusnard, 4110 La Portalada, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that she is a grandparent with legal
custody of a minor child. She agrees with family home day
care but cannot believe Mr. Kates low traffic count. While
working in his yard one day, one neighbor counted 15 vehicles
entering and leaving the cul-de-sac having business with the
Kates. She stated that she is a good neighbor but does not
want 17 children living next door. She is concerned about
enforcement, should a conditional use permit be issued.
Thelma Pilcher, 3930 Trieste, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that she lives directly above the Kates
and is concerned about the nuisance of noisy children,
correcting adults, and barking dogs emanating from the Kates
property. She is concerned that if a permit for more
children is issued that the noise factor will double and
inquired as to when day care becomes a business. She further
stated that her neighbors are presently out of town but have
written a letter stating their objection to the noise.
Commissioner Hall inquired if the distance from the Kates'
property to the Pilcher property was approximately 150 feet.
Mrs. Pilcher was unsure of the distance but reiterated that
the noise is unbearable.
Commissioner Holmes inquired if there was a particular time
of day when the noise was worse and Mrs. Pilcher replied in
the morning from 10:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon and in the afternoon
from 2:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m., when the children were outside
playing.
Richard Kates, applicant, was given an opportunity to rebut
the testimony given and stated that because some children are
part-time, the total number of children receiving daycare in
any week is 15-16 children. He stated that there are never
more than 12 children there at any one time and that includes
his own children. He invited the Commissioners to visit the
home at any time to observe the situation; the State has
observed on several occasions and has no complaints. With
regards to Mr. Falkenstein's letter, it was placed on the
windshield of an employee's vehicle who was parked in front
of Mr. Falkenstein's home; this employee is now parking
outside the cul-de-sac and sine* action was taken, Mr. Kates
did not feel it necessary to do anything else. As regards
the charge about a business venture, Mr. Kates reminded
Commissioners that the law specifically exempts daycare homes
from being commercial ventures. He does not feel that the
property values have been reduced and challenged anyone to
point out when home values have ever gone down in Carlsbad.
He concluded by saying that he is experienced as a traffic
officer and does not feel the traffic in the cul-de-sac is an
unreasonable situation since the cars are not there all at
the same time.
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Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney, passed out copies of a
memorandum he had written on December 11, 1986 which
discusses a similar situation. He commented that the City
can permit a use which is prohibited by CC&R's since use
restrictions are separate and independent. If the Commission
approves a use which is incompatible with the CC&R's, the
residents of a subdivision have the private right of
enforcement. As regards the State law (Child Daycare
Facilities Act), the State will not allow the City to
prohibit large daycare homes but the City may prescribe
reasonable standards; he feels that the ordinance now in
effect does reflect reasonable standards. The State will not
allow the City to reject the project because it does not
comply with the Environmental Quality Act. The noise
standards must be consistent with the Noise Ordinance of the
General Plan and must take the noise of children into
consideration.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to not
uphold the denial of a large daycare home permit on
on property located at 4104 La Portalada Drive and
instructed staff to return to the Planning Commission
with a CUP and conditions to operate a 7-12 child
family day care home.
Chairman Marcus announced to the gallery that the public
hearing would be continued until staff returns with a
proposal for a CUP, and that the final decision of the
Commission is appealable.
RECESS
The Planning Commission recessed at 7:45 p.m. and reconvened
at 8:00 p.m.
4) CUP-300 - FEDERAL EXPRESS - Request for a conditional
use permit for a 60 square foot kiosk to receive
packages for Federal Express delivery, in the parking
lot of an office building located at the southeast
corner of Faraday and El Camino Real.
Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the
request and stated that Federal Express Corporation is
requesting a conditional use permit to operate a drive-up
window, package drop-off facility (similar to Fotomat) at the
corner of Faraday and El Camino Real. Approval of the
Federal Express CUP would invalidate an existing approved CUP
for a bank drive-through facility on this lot which expires
in May 1989. Staff recommends approval of CUP-300 because
the proposed Federal Express kiosk will provide a. desirable
service to the businesses located in the industrial area;
modifications to the existing property will be minimal with
no incompatibility to surrounding properties, and traffic
generation can be handled by nearby streets.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
David Borelund, 8950 Cal Center Drive, Sacramento,
representing the Federal Express Company, addressed the
Commission and stated that nationwide, 50Z of the Federal
Express traffic is in documents and 50Z is in.packages. It
is expected that this drive-thru kiosk will receive 80% in
documents. He is working closely with staff to redesign the
parking area to maximize traffic flow. In a recent informal
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study it was determined that the minimum transaction time for
a kiosk is eight seconds and the maximum is five minutes,
with service being rendered to regular customers on a
repetitive basis. It is expected that 50% of the traffic at
this kiosk will be between 4:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. but that
it will reduce the number of Federal Express trucks now
frequenting the area.
Don Shepardson, El Camino Real Partners, addressed the
Commission and stated that he agrees with the findings and
staff recommendations and requested approval of the CUP.
Commissioner Holmes would like to see the kiosk painted
another color to blend in with the other buildings.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the size of vehicle
which picks up from the kiosk and Mr. Borelund replied that
it is a Federal Express Courier van which is a Ford Econoline
truck.
There being no other person to address the Commission on this
topic. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve
the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director
and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 2658
approving CUP-300, based on the findings and subject
to the conditions contained therein.
5) ZCA-200 - CITY OF CARLSBAD - An amendment to the Zoning
Ordinance to revised Chapter 21.41 of the Carlsbad
Municipal Code, Community Directional Sign Program.
Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the
request and stated that the existing sign program has been in
effect since December 1985 and because several changes to
sign locations have been requested this past year, the zone
code amendment would allow the Planning Director to approve
the locations for the sign kiosks. Earlier this year,
Council directed staff to proceed with a ZCA to revise the
ordinance.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
Mike Pact, President of SunCal Outdoor Advertising, addressed
the Commission and stated that the original map outlined 23
sign locations which anticipated future needs and for which
there are currently no roads. Several sites now needing
signs were overlooked and SunCal would like to have Planning
Director approval for location revisions, without requiring
Council approval each time. He would welcome questions.
There being no other person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve
the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director
and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 2660
approving ZCA-200, based on the findings and subject
to the conditions contained therein.
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8) SP-199 - CENTRE DEVELOPMENT - Crib wall, Carlsbad
Airport Centre.
Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the
background of the request and stated that Centre Development
Company originally requested approval of a crib wall along
the north side of Palomar Airport Road, several hundred feet
west of the intersection of Camino Vida Roble and Palomar
Airport Road. The applicant has recently submitted an
alternative eliminating the crib wall and would, instead, use
numerous concrete planter boxes attached to an 18 foot high
retaining wall. The planter boxes would be heavily
landscaped and irrigated to disguise the retaining wall and
would be attached at different height levels. Centre
Development would like to retain the SDG&E powerline tower
(closest to Palomar Airport Road) in its existing location
due to the expense involved in relocating a powerline tower.
The Traffic Department would like to see the planter boxes
placed back from the sidewalk by at least one foot and
contain only low-level shrubbery for optimum visibility.
Staff feels the planter boxes will be attractive but would
still recommend that the utility pole be relocated as
originally agreed upon.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
Nick Banche, 810 Mission Avenue, Oceanside, an attorney,
addressed the Commission on behalf of Centre Development
Company and stated that they had no previous knowledge to
relocate a power pole and felt that the documents submitted
to staff and the Commission substantiated this fact. In
addition to the expensive cost of relocating the utility
pole, there would be a long delay required for redesign. He
stated that it is in the best interest of the City and the
applicant to proceed with getting the road open and there is
no safety issue involved on whether the pole stays where it
is or is relocated. He requested the Commission to consider
approval of the alternative proposal with the planter boxes.
Frank Wagner, 3247 Avenida Anacapa, Carlsbad, addressed the
Commission and stated that he is the Project Manager for
Centre Development Company. He explained that it would cost
approximately $150,000 for redesign plus a 67% tax to
relocate the utility pole and that it would take
approximately one year for the redesign process,
manufacturing the new pole, construction, etc. He presented
a miniature architectural model of the crib wall with
landscape and explained that the wall would be a textured
concrete in earth tones. In his estimation, the planned
landscape design will greatly enhance the surrounding area.
Chairman Marcus inquired about the cost to construct the crib
wall with proposed planter boxes and landscape and Mr. Wagner
replied that it would be in the neighborhood of $150,000 to
$200,000.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about when the project would
be completed and Mr. Wagner replied that work could commence
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as soon as the Encroachment Permit and Building Permit have
been issued.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the maintenance of the
median and Mr. Wagner replied that he is not sure of the
serviceability of the existing irrigation pipe. If the pipe
is serviceable, applicant would replant the median to the
satisfaction of the Planning Director. However, if the
irrigation system requires rework, he feels that should be
done by someone else. He then explained where the median was
located in relation to the applicant's property.
Mike Foote, 5205 Kearny Villa Way, San Diego, addressed the
Commission and explained that the 67Z tax is an outgrowth of
the recent Federal Income Tax revision. Any improvements
made for a utility are now considered income to them so the
tax is passed on to the developer. He stated that he does
not know the applicant but that the planned landscape design
is superior in all aspects and encouraged approval by the
Commission.
There being no other person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Commissioner McFadden inquired of the City Attorney about the
lack of understanding about the relocation of the utility
pole. Ron Ball replied that the plans implied relocation but
there was no express condition to relocate the pole. He does
not recall any expressed testimony that stated it was a
condition.
Chairman Marcus1 recollection is that the pole was to be
relocated and she agrees with staff that this would be the
most desirable option.
Commissioner Schlehuber stated that he does not feel the
relocation of the pole is absolutely necessary and he can
support the proposal. He feels there is an advantage to
moving ahead with the project without waiting for redesign.
Commissioner Hall agrees with the textured concrete in earth
tones and likes the proposal to replant and maintain the
center median.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve
the applicant's request for textured concrete planter boxes
in earth tones along Palomar Road without relocating
the SOG&E power pole and to incorporate the recommendations
contained in Planning Department memorandum dated May 20,
1987.
9) CUP-205U) - CRAZY BURRO - Request for approval of a
change of use from patio area to restaurant seating area
at an existing restaurant on the east side of El Camino
Real between Alga Road and Dove Lane in the C-l-Q Zone.
Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, reviewed tha background of the
request and stated that the applicant is requesting that
occasional restaurant seating be allowed on an open patio
area located at the west side of the Crazy Burro restaurant.
A slight redesign of the inner courtyard is proposed in
addition to a vine-covered trellis. According to the
applicant, the courtyard would accommodate approximately four
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Cables. The applicant realizes Chat parking is a concern and
will close off an equal number of tables indoors when the
outdoor seating is being used. If outside music is used for
weddings or special events, it will cease at 5:00 p.m.
Staff recommends approval since adequate monitoring options
are available in the existing CUP to ensure compliance and
was issued for two years with yearly review by the Planning
Director Co determine if all conditions are being met and Che
use does not have a significant detrimental impact on
surrounding properties or the public health and welfare.
Commissioner Hall inquired if any complaints had been
received since the original CUP was issued and Mr. Wayne
replied Chat there were none to his knowledge.
Chairman Marcus stated that she sees no problem if a portion
of the dining room is shut down when the patio is in use.
Bill Hofman, 6994 El Camino Real, Suite 208-G, Carlsbad, a
planning consultant representing the owner of the Crazy
Burro, addressed the Commission and stated that he is
available to answer questions.
Commissioner Holmes inquired how the dining room will be
closed off when the patio is operating and Mr. Hofman replied
that it would be accomplished with a "Section Closed" sign
and rope.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve
CUP-205(A) and applicant's request to change the patio
area to restaurant seating at the Crazy Burro restaurant
located on the east side of El Camino Real between Alga
Road and Dove Lane in the C-l-Q zone, based on the findings
and subject to the conditions contained therein.
RECESS
The Planning Commission recessed at 8:45 p.m. and reconvened
at 8:53 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS;
6) LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PLAN - ZONE 4 - On property
bounded by Interstate 5 on the west and undeveloped land
to the east. The subject area is divided north and
south bj[ Paseo del Norte and east and west by Poinsettia
Lane.
Phil Carter, Senior Management Analyst, passed out some
revision pages to the plan, and stated that performance
standards for wastewater now and in the future will be
measured on a Citywide basis. Gary Wayne, Senior Planner,
stated that this would be explained by the City Engineer
during the staff presentation.
Commissioner McFadden inquired if this meant that future
zones would not show the wastewater treatment capacity as it
did originally, including undeveloped zones. Michael
Holzmillar, Planning Director, replied that she was correct
but that undeveloped zones would be addressed differently
since future development affects the time that a threshold
may be exceeded.
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Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, gave the staff report and stated
that Zone 4 is almost completely built out with residential
development ranging from single family to sixplexes. The
area includes a new City fire station and also an undeveloped
5.12 acre commercial site.
City Administrative Facilities
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard until the year 2005, based on the phasing that was
part of the Citywide facilities plan of approximately 1,250
dwellings per year, which is in line with past growth
patterns and projected growth patterns as forecast by SANDAG.
Library
Library space is currently below standard. Until the
City Council takes action approving measures which provide
for library services to meet the adopted performance
standards, no residential development may occur in Zone 4 or
the City.
Parks
Park District 3 does not conform with the adopted
performance standard. There is currently 10 acres of
shortage in developed park land which, with phasing, could
rise to a 25 acres shortage. Until the City Council takes
action approving measures which provide park facilities to
meet the adopted performance standard, no residential
development may occur in the southwest quadrant.
Drainage
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard to buildout of Zone 4. Drainage facilities are
generally site specific and there are no major facilities
identified in Zone 4 and future needs will be the
responsibility of specific developments.
Circulation
The existing road segments and intersections in Zone 4
currently meet the adopted performance standard, including
impacted roads as defined by the plan.
Fire
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard to Buildout of Zone 4 because the entire zone is
within the five minute response time of Fire Station 3
located near Poinsettia and Batiquitos Lane.
Open Space
Existing open space meets the adopted performance
standard to buildout of Zone 4.
Schools
Existing school facilities currently have capacity to
meet the demand generated by Zone 4. The School District has
indicated that it will be able to provide capacity to
buildout of Zone 4.
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Sewer Collection Svstem
Existing sewer collection networks comply with the
adopted performance standard to the ultimate buildout of
Zone 4. Since only minimal development can occur in this
zone, any increase in size of the collection system would be
the result of out-of-zone impacts.
Water Distribution
Water service to Zone 4 meets the adopted performance
standard to the buildout of Zone 4.
In summary, Gary Wayne stated that there are two facilities
which now fall below the performance standard in Zone 4, and
the potential exists that wastewater may not conform to the
standard within the five year period. Lloyd Hubbs, City
Engineer, proceeded to address the wastewater treatment
capacity.
Wastewater Treatment Capacity
The original zone plan (#3) submitted to the Commission
indicated that existing facilities, Citywide, will meet the
adopted performance standard, assuming the Phase IV expansion
of Encina WPCF. However, a more recent review of the sewer
master plan, indicates that capacity will be exceeded before
the expansion occurs and interim measures will be necessary.
Carlsbad's current capacity of wastewater now being
treated at Encina is 5.7 MGD. The March measurement
statistics indicated a flow of 4.7 MGD, with only 1.0 MGD
remaining. All assumptions considered, current projections
add .4 MGD per year, which is about a two-four year capacity.
Flow measurements at Encina will be monitored monthly by
staff. When we reach 5.25 MGD, plans to accelerate the
expansion will begin immediately and interim treatment
capacity will be leased from Vista or San Marcos. The
Calavera Reclamation Plant could also be activated as a stop
gap measure if no other options are available. Permits for
the Encina expansion are being requested from the Regional
Water Quality Control Board in an effort to begin posturing
for the expansion. Financing to activate the Calavera
Reclamation Plant and expand the Encina WPCF are available.
Commissioner McFadden inquired if Calavera Hills will reclaim
water or sewage processing and Mr. Hubbs replied that the
original scheme for Calavera was to reclaim water but since
that would cost an additional $2 million, the plant would
only process sewage and send it to the outfall. The sewer
master plan should be available in the near future.
Commissioner Holmes inquired what the capacity would be after
the Encina expansion is completed and Mr. Hubbs replied that
it would increase capacity by 11.25 MGD, with Carlsbad's
portion being 2.9 MGD.
Mr. Wayne concluded his presentation and Chairman Marcus
opened the floor to questions.
Commissioner McFadden inquired if the park inventory is
accurate as presented on page 57 and Mr. Wayne replied that
the inventory is accurate at the current time but Council has
considered amending the parks and recreation element of the
General Plan. The Parks Commission has met and some
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recommendations are being considered that Spinnaker be
deleted and Altamira be placed in the future development
category, which might reduce the park inventory to zero,
however no action has been taken as yet.
Commissioner Schlehuber inquired if the plan would be
resubmitted after a change in park inventory has occurred,
and Mr. Wayne replied that the plan would come back with a
mitigation factor included.
Commissioner McBane stated that it was his understanding that
the parks and recreation element is a 1982 version and does
not include Spinnaker or Altamira. Phil Carter replied that
the park inventory for the plan was furnished by the Parks
and Recreation Commission.
Commissioner McFadden stated that there is still an
inconsistency between the public facilities and the park
element and inquired about how this would be addressed,
referring to Finding itl on page 137. Michael Holzmiller,
Planning Director, replied that the element is open to
interpretation and the inconsistency should be indicated to
the Council. He further stated that the Planning staff does
not develop the information and that it is provided by the
jurisdiction which renders the service.
Commissioner McBane referred to the traffic element at
Palomar Airport Road and 1-5 (page 71) where several zones
contribute to the congestion problem and no zone contributes
more than 20% and stated that he sees this as a problem not
being resolved. Phil Carter replied that the 207. standard
will allow the intersection at the time it is failing to be
corrected by the zones that do impact it by 20/5 or more. The
joint City Council/Planning Commission meeting with the
traffic study next week should help to answer some of these
questions.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
There being no person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
There was some discussion on mitigation and Chairman Marcus
felt that Council was already on notice that the park element
and the library element did not meet the performance
standards.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 2659 recommending
approval of the Local Facilities Management Plan for
Zone 4 on property generally located south of Agua
Hedionda Lagoon, north of and including the Encina
Wastewater Treatment Plant, east of the Pacific Ocean
to a point just east of Paseo del Norte.
Commissioners McFadden and McBane requested that the record
to show that they voted "no" due to inconsistencies between
the public facilities element and the parks and recreation
element.
7) LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PLAN - ZONE 2 - On property
bounded on the west by El Camino Real, on the north by
Highway 78, on the east generally by Elm Avenue, and the
south by Tamarack Avenue.
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Nancy Rollman, Associate Planner, gave the staff report and
stated that Zone 2 comprises about 800 acres in the northeast
quadrant bordered almost entirely by major roadways, i.e. El
Camino Real to the west. Highway 78 to the north, Elm Avenue
to the east, and Tamarack Avenue to the south. Zone 2 is
considered to be an "in-fill" zone because much of it has
been built or is in the process of development. To
summarize, there are three public facilities in Zone 2 which
do not meet the performance standards, i.e. libraries,
circulation, and sewer collection. Other facilities
(wastewater, parks, drainage, and water distribution), while
meeting the standard, do have special conditions attached to
them.
City Administrative Facilities
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard until the year 2005.
Library
Library space is currently below standard. Until the
City Council takes action approving measures which provide
for library services to meet the adopted performance
standards, no residential development may occur in Zone 2 or
the City.
Wastewater Treatment Capacity
Wastewater facilities are identical to that of Zone 4
which was covered by Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer.
Parks
Park District 2 conforms with the adopted performance
standard until the year 1996. Two special conditions have
been recommended for Zone 2:
(1) that Calavera Hills Park be completed before
4,357 residential units have received building permits in
Zone 2, and
(2) that public facility fees and park-in-lieu fees
continue to be paid by development.
The Council has directed staff to update the parks and
recreation element of the general plan. If, in that process,
the parks inventory for Zone 2 changes and the performance
standard is not met, this plan will be updated and
resubmitted to the Commission.
Drainage
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard to buildout of Zone 2. One special condition is
recommended, that future development which drains into Buena
Vista Creek comply with the approved sediment control
guidelines for Buena Vista Lagoon.
Circulation
Two intersections in Zone 2 (Elm Avenue/El Camino Real
and Tamarack Avenue/El Camino Real) do not meet the adopted
performance standards. Both will fail at the peak hours and
could be mitigated by adding additional lanes. Until this is
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brought into conformance, no development shall occur in
Zone 2.
Fire
Existing facilities meet the adopted performance
standard to buildout of Zone 2.
Open Space
Existing open space meets the adopted performance
standard to buildout of Zone 2.
Schools
Existing school facilities currently have the capacity
to meet the demand generated by Zone 1. The School District
has indicated that it will be able to provide capacity to
buildout of Zone 2.
Sewer Collection System
Existing sewer trunk line capacity does not comply with
the adopted performance standard. Until this is brought into
conformance, no development shall occur in Zone 2.
Water Distribution
Water service to Zone 2 meets the adopted performance
standard to the buildout of the Zone.
Nancy Rollman concluded her presentation and Chairman Marcus
opened the floor to questions.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the sewer collection
system being treated as two separate sub-basins (2A and 2B),
and no construction being allowed until the Vista-Carlsbad
interceptor is upgraded. She understood the standard to
apply to the entire Zone and stated that it appears that the
zone could be split and development proceed in a portion of
the zone. Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer, replied that traffic
and sewers are somewhat different and that the intent of
growth management is to have facilities available to allow
development to proceed. Since the sewer collection system
for this area is adequate, it would meet the intent of growth
management.
Commissioner Schlehuber stated that Commissioner McFadden has
a good point and wondered about the propriety of splitting
the zone relative to wastewater. Chairman Marcus inquired if
the standard applies to the entire zone then it could mean
that 2A could wait several years for 2fi to catch up.
Commissioner Schlehuber feels that the standard should apply
to the entire zone or the policy should be revised.
Phil Carter replied that sewer is treated differently than
any other facility since it can be broken into a sub-basin
within a zone. Staff's interpretation is that there are
sewer sub-basins in zones and the adequacy of that sub-basin
should dictate to that sub-zone.
Commissioner Schlehuber stated that if this standard is to be
treated differently, it must be defined very-clearly so that
it only applies to sewers. Chairman Marcus agrees. Michael
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Holzmiller, Planning Director, replied that this can be
aefined.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the master drainage plan
(page 67) and the timing of the phased improvements, and
wondered when the revised plan would be available. David
Mauser, Assistant City Engineer, replied that the RFP is done
but that funds have not yet been directed to revise the plan
since the Hosp Grove initiative took precedence. He feels
that if the revised master drainage plan needs to be done
right away, that a motion should be made to Council to
establish that priority. It could be started within two
months and the revised plan could be completed within 6-8
months after that. Commissioner McFadden inquired about the
cost and Mr. Hauser replied that it would be in the
neighborhood of $120,000. Commissioner McFadden desired to
make a minute motion to the Council and, after discussion, it
was decided that the minute motion would follow the main
motion.
Commissioner McFadden inquired about the master plan update
for the Carlsbad Unified School District which is also not
available. Phil Carter replied that the Council will
consider this item on May 26.
Commissioner McBane inquired about the total open space of
99.3 acres on page 86 and how this is reconciled to the 157.
requirement. Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, replied that the
Citywide plan adopted by the Council took into consideration
certain zones that had no way of ever meeting the adopted
standard because they were "in-fill" zones and they
determined that Zone 2 was one of these zones and this would
not need to be addressed.
Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued
the invitation to speak.
There being no person to address the Commission on this
topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and
opened the item for discussion among the Commission members.
Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 2665 recommending
approval of the Local Facilities Management Plan for
Zone 2 on property generally located south of Highway 78,
north of Tamarack Avenue, east of El Camino Real
generally to Elm Avenue and that staff make recommendations
to the City Council regarding solutions to the sub-basin
issue on sewer and drainage basins.
Commissioner McFadden desired the record to show that she
voted "no" because she was unable to make the first finding
since the public facilities element and the parks and
recreation element are inconsistent.
A minute motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to
recommend to the City Council that they look into funding
for the Master Drainage Plan.
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Commissioner McBane requested that the minutes of April 15,
1987 be corrected to show a "no" vote on page 5, Resolution
No. 2631. He also requested that line 7, paragraph -*,
page 12 be corrected to read "...question, stating it was
recommended by Council that the...".
Commissioner McFadden requested that line 1, paragraph 3,
page 4, of the minutes of April 15, 1987 be corrected to read
"Commissioner McFadden stated she wanted to ask...".
The Planning Commission approved the minutes of
April 15, 1987 with the above corrections.
The Planning Commission approved the minutes of
May 6, 1987 as presented.
ADDED ITEMS AND REPORTS:
Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, reminded the
Commissioners that there would be a joint City
Council/ Planning Commission on Tuesday, May 26, and passed
out copies of the traffic study.
Mr. Holzmiller reported that a Planning Commission Workshop
will be held in the near future and Commissioners should
submit items of interest to his attention so that they may be
included on the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the meeting of May 20, 1987 was
adjourned at 10:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
MICHAEL HOLZMILLER
Planning Director
BETTY BUCKNER
Minutes Clerk
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