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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-11-04; Planning Commission; Minutes4 MINUTES -’ Date of Meeting: November 4, 1987 -9 Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS \ 3 CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Marcus called the Meeting to order at 6:03 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Marcus. ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Marcus, Commissioners Hall, McBane, McFadden, Schlehuber, and Schramm Absent - Commissioner Holmes Staff Members Present: Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director Gary Wayne, Senior Planner Chris DeCerbo, Associate Planner Bobbie Hoder, Senior Management Analyst Phil Carter, Senior Management Analyst Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer David Hauser, Assistant City Engineer Clyde Wickham, Associate Civil Engineer COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THE AGENDA: Mr. Joe Reed, 1008 Daisy Avenue, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he represented the residents of Spinnaker Hills and was presenting a petition of 440 signatures opposing the opening of Daisy Avenue to through vehicular traffic, except emergency vehicles. Commissioner Marcus advised Mr. Reed that he was speaking on an agenda item and could return to the podium to express his view during the Pacific Rim public hearing. (The petition contained 427 signatures.) PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES: Chairman Marcus reviewed the Planning Commission procedures on the overhead for the benefit of the audience. Chairman Marcus announced that due to time constraints, only Agenda Item 1 would be heard this evening and that Items 2-7 would be continued to a Planning Commission meeting to be held on Thursday, November 12, 1987. There were no persons desiring to speak on Agenda Items 2-7 who would be unable to attend the meeting on November 12th. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to continue Agenda Items 2-7 to a Planning Commission meeting to be held on Thursday, November 12, 1987 at 6:00 p.m. at the Safety Center. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1) LFMP 87-19/EIR 83-2(A)/GPA/LU 85-2/LCPA 87-4 (LCPA 87-2A)/LCPA 87-5 (LCPA 87-2B)/MP-177/CT 85-35/CP-3231 PUD-102/PUD-l03/PUD-104/PUD-105/SDP 86-2 - PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB AND RESORT - Request for the approval of Meeting of: PLANNING COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m. CORRECTED Hall Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm X P\ 4 1 b7 b, . * ’ .’ ‘I ’ I $1 tt I . *? MINUTES ’ CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 2 COMMISSIONERS Local Facilities Management Plan (LFMP) 87-19 and certification of the Negative Declaration for LFMP 87-19 and certification of an Environmental Impact Report (EIR) for the approval of a General Plan Amendment, two Local Coastal Program (LCP) Amendments, and a Master Plan for a 1402 acre site located immediately north of La Costa Avenue between Interstate 5 and El Camino Real. The approval of a Tentative Tract Map for Phase I (531.1 acres) a Condominium Permit (Planning Area 9), three Planned Unit Developments (Planning Areas 4, 8, and 14), a Non-Residential Planned Unit Development and Site Development Plans for Planning Areas 1, 2, 10, and 11 of Phase I and two additional Negative Declarations related to these actions are also requested. Prior to his staff report, Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, noted that an errata memorandum dated November 3, 1987 had been written to Commissioners, with a copy to the applicant and the Daisy Avenue homeowners, stating minor corrections to the HP1 Resolutions and Master Plan. Charles Grimm reviewed the background of the Pacific Rim project and stated that tonight's meeting was the culmination of three and a half years of negotiation and planning on approximately 1,400 acres of some of the most scenic property in North County. He stated that the property is located north of La Costa Avenue in the area between Interstate 5 and El Camino Real. The applicant's original project submitted three and a half years ago contained a hotel, a golf course, approximately 5,000 residential units and a number of restaurants and shops located on or near the lagoon wetlands. Hunt Properties, Inc. (HPI) and staff managed to have the property annexed but only recently were major strides made in the actual site planning, after the original project was redesigned. The revised project eliminated the waterfront restaurants and shops and included more open space and more single family units. Shortly before the revised project was to go to Public Hearing, the City Council developed the Growth Management Ordinance which was ratified by the voters of Carlsbad as Proposition E. In addition, around that same time, the City Council also established a Hillside protection ordinance and redefined Open Space which further cut the development potential of the property. With the addition of these things, the number of units permitted on the project dropped to 2,836 which was almost half of the original proposal, and 1,500 units below the requirements of the Carlsbad General Plan. Numerous hours have been spent with citizen groups to make sure the proposed development is as compatible as possible with existing homes in the area. The documents being presented on this project tonight are the most restrictive and most complicated in the history of the City. The Planning Commission will be considering a new Environmental Impact Report --one was submitted earlier for the annexation-- several negative declarations as well as a Local Facilities Management Plan for Zone 19 which was prepared by an outside source with staff review. Also being presented are two Local Coastal Plan Amendments to bring the LCP into conformance with the City's General Plan, a General Plan Amendment which will not increase residential density, a Master Plan which provides the development standards for the site, a Master Tentative Map which divides the property into planning areas and neighborhoods , and a number of Planned Unit Developments and Site Development Plans approving . 8 ‘. ’ ? ‘> ’ I November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 3 -4 COMMISSIONERS ’ \ development in Phase I of the project. Because of the size and complexity of the project, the staff report will be presented by four staff members. Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, presented the Environmental Impact Reports (EIR) and Local Coastal Plans (LCP). He stated that the first EIR was for a pre-annexational zone change which was certified by the City in 1983. The EIR being presented tonight pertains to the proposed Master Plan as well as all other actions being presented. The EIR was completed pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act and identifies nine areas of potentially significant environmental impacts. In response to the draft EIR, the project has undergone significant revisions to incorporate mitigation measures to the project design so that anticipated impacts on land use, agriculture, visual asthetics, noise, hydrology, biology, and cultural resources have been reduced to levels of insignificance. As part of the Local Facilities Management Plan being presented tonight, which incorporates a Traffic Study in conjunction with the Growth Management Plan which reduced density City-wide, a mitigation program will be initiated to reduce traffic impacts to an acceptable level which also has a bearing on the EIR. The EIR identified inconsistencies in land use between the City's General Plan and the Local Coastal Program (LCP). Although the Master Plan conforms to the residential densities allowed by the City's General Plan, it is inconsistent with the LCP policies regarding densities as well as regarding protection of sensitive environmental resources, namely steep slopes, wetlands, and riparian habitats. The project has been redesigned based on the draft EIR and now complies with the LCP protection policies. Density - Staff is recommending the LCP be amended to be consistent with the City's General Plan intensities and to require resource protection consistent with the California Coastal Act and to require a Master Plan for all development within the location. Agriculture - The City's LCP and amendments allow for the conversion of agriculture lands through the payment of a mitigation fee or other options in accordance with the California Coastal Act. Therefore, the impacts on agriculture are reduced to a level of insignificance. Air Quality - The EIR concluded that the proposed intensity of development exceeds that projected by the SANDAG Series 6 Forecast for Attainment of Acceptable Regional Air Quality and, therefore, creates an unmitigatable impact. However, the project has been scaled down by 1,500 dwelling units which should bring it more in line with the Series 6 forecast. Also, the Series 6 was based on the permanent agricultural restrictions of the City's LCP which were amended in 1985 and certified by the Local Coastal Commission. This amendment allows conversion to urban uses consistent with the General Plan. As a result, the proposed project will be consistent with the updated Series 7 forecast which will assume the City's General Plan and not the LCP land uses. In any event, the proposed project provides benefits such as housing, employment opportunities, and resource protection which outweigh the unavoidable and unmitigatable impacts on air quality. The Planning Commission responsiblity is to determine whether the EIR is prepared pursuant to the California Environment . ’ ’ . ’ .’ ‘; I t , !’ November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 4 COMMISSIONERS \ -7 Quality Act and to transmit its recommendations to the City Council. In that regard, staff has managed the preparation of the EIR from start to finish and is confident that it complies with all aspects of the Environmental Quality Act as well as the City's Environmental Ordinance. In addition, the Planning Commission's must determine whether the proposed amendments to the LCP are consistent with City policies and whether they implement the California Coastal Act. Staff believes that the proposed amendments are consistent with the City's General Plan and the Coastal Resource Protection Policy of the existing LCP. Phil Carter, Senior Management Analyst, presented the Local Facilities Management Plan and stated that it provides two phasing scenarios. One based on the existing General Plan as required by the Growth Managment program, and the second scenario based upon the proposed Pacific Rim Country Club and Resort Master Plan. Public Facility General Plan Master Plan City Existing facilities meet Existing facilities Administrative the adopted performance meet the adopted standard until the year performance standard 2005. until the year 2005. Library Wastewater Treatment Capacity Parks Library facilities meet the adopted performance standard until the year 2003 Existing facilities meet the adopted performance standard and, based upon the City's approved action program, will continue to do so through the buildout of this zone. Park District 3 does not conform with the adopted performance standard. Until this standard is met, no residential development will be allowed. Library facilities meet the adopted performance standard until the year 2003. Existing facilities meet the adopted performance standard and, based upon the City's approved action program, will continue to do so through the buildout of this Zone. Park District 3 does not conform with the adopted performance standards without th proposed mitigation. Hunt Properties, Inc as the major land holder in the Zone, has agreed to assist the City in resolvin the parks shortage i the Park District. This will be accom- plished through the dedication of 24.25 acres and by providi a financial guarante to construct 15.00 acres of park within 5 years of 1st final map. This mitigatio brings the park acre age into conformance + ’ . t 1 “ ’ P :“I! MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 5 COMMISSIONERS y Public Facility Parks (cont'd) Drainage Circulation General Plan Existing facilities currently meet the adopted performance standard. These facility needs will be assessed and improvements conditioned as specific development is proposed within the Zone. The current circulation will continue to be updated as development is proposed in the Zone. The special conditions require more information prior to the approvals of any tentative maps in the Zone except CT85-35 Existing conditions require that prior to the issuance of any building permit within Zone 19, the Alga Road/ Poinsettia Lane connec- tion between El Camino Real and I-5 shall be designed, bonded and a schedule submitted indicating completion of these arterials prior to occupancy of any unit or building. Existing conditions also require the following improvements prior to allowing any occupancy: 1) Alga Rd., west of El Camino, is to be constructed with two lanes to secondary arterial standards from its existing terminus to Poinsettia Lane. 2) Poinsettia Lane is to be extended east to Master Plan with the standard and will allow the additional approval of 1359 units in Park District 3. Existing facilities currently meet the adopted performance standard. These facility needs will be assessed and improvements condi- tioned as specific development is proposed within the Zone. The current circula- tion will continue to be updated as development is pro- posed in the Zone. The special condi- tions require more information prior to the approvals of any tentative maps in the Zone except CT85-35. Existing conditions require that prior to issuance of any building permit within Zone 19, the Alga Rd/Poinsettia Lane connection between El Camino Real and I-5 shall be designed, bonded and a schedule submitted indicating completion of these arterials prior to occupancy of any unit or building. Existing conditions also require the following improve- ments prior to allowing any occupancy: 1) Alga Rd., west of El Camino, is to be contructed with two lanes to secondary arterial standards from its existing terminus to Poin- settia Lane. 2) l . . 1 I ., ) ,‘ Public Facility Circulation (cont'd) Fire Open Space Schools Sewer Collection General Plan Alga Road with two lanes to major arterial standards. The special conditions detail future improve- ment needs. This list may be expanded follow- ing the receipt of additional traffic information. Existing facilities meet the adopted performance standard to buildout of Zone 19. Existing open space meets the adopted performance standard until 1992. All devel- opment will be stopped at this time unless a plan has been prepared to guarantee compliance with the open space standard. Existing school facil- ities currently have capacity to meet the demand generated by Zone 19. The School District has indi- cated that it will be able to provide capacity to buildout of Zone 19 provided that a 12.4 acre elementary school site is dedicated with the first phase of development in the Zone. All future development will be required to pro- vide specific sewer improvements in con- formance with the adopted standard. HP1 or some other developer will be required to fund the projected improve- ments needed at the Batiquitos lift station because the demand for P ,,-y MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 6 COMMISSIONERS Master Plan Poinsettia Lane is to be extended east to Alga Road with 2 lanes to major arterial standards. The special condi- tions detail future improvement needs. This list may be expanded following the receipt of additional traffic information. Existing facilities meet the adopted performance standard to buildout of Zone 19. Existing open space meets the adopted performance standard to buildout of Zone 19. Existing school facilities currently have the capacity to meet the demand generated by Zone 19 The School District has indicated that it will be able to provide capacity to buildout of Zone 19 provided that a 12.4 acre elementary school site is dedi- cated with the first phase of development in the Zone. All future develop- ment will be require1 to provide specific sewer improvements in conformance with the adopted standard HP1 will be required to fund the projectec improvements needed at the Batiquitos lift station because the demand for these . ’ , .’ .I 1 !’ /7 MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 7 COMMISSIONERS Public Facility General Plan Master Plan Sewer these improvements is improvements is a Collection a result of their result of their (cont'd) development and is pro- development and is jetted to occur ahead projected to occur of the proposed City ahead of the propose funding schedule. City funding schedul Water Water service to Water service to Distribution Zone 19 meets the Zone 19 meets the adopted performance adopted performance standard to buildout standard to buildout of the Zone. of the Zone. Chris DeCerbo, Associate Planner, presented the land use applications consisting of a General Plan Amendment (GPA), the HP1 Master Plan, and the Phase I tentative tract map of the proposed 1402 acre Pacific Rim Country Club and Resort to be located on the Hunt property, north of La Costa Avenue. The Spinnaker Hills and Seaport neighborhoods are located immediately north and east of the proposed project. The Phase I portion of the property consists of a Condominium Permit for Planning Area 9, three Planned Unit Developments for Planning Areas 4, 8, and 14, and Non-residential Planned Unit and Site Development Plan for Planning Areas 1, 2, 10, and 11. The Pacific Rim Country Club and Resort, as proposed, includes a world class 560 room destination resort hotel and a 18 hole championship golf course as the focal point of the development. Other commercial uses proposed in association with the hotel and golf course include a community sports center, two major restaurants, a golf clubhouse, and a neighborhood commercial center. The hotel and golf course would be surrounded by a variety of residential uses, up to a maximum of 2,836 units. This includes 364 standard single family, 423 small-lot single family, and 2,049 multiple family units. Other proposed land uses include an elementary school site (12.4 acres), a community park (24.5 acres), a church and daycare area, and 387 acres of open space which include Batiquitos Lagoon and wetlands. Implementation of the proposed Pacific Rim Country Club Master Plan and Phase I tentative tract map will require the approval of a GPA over the subject property. GeneralPlanhdment- The existing General Plan would allow a maximum of approximately 4,300 dwelling units. The total number of dwelling units that could be developed per the City Growth Management Ordinance would be 2,836. The existing General Plan would also allow 12 acres of Recreation Commercial (RC) and 10 acres of Travel Service (TS) uses. The remainder of the property is designated for Open Space (OS) l The applicant is proposing a Combination District on the site which contains the Residential Low Medium (RLM), Residential Medium (RM), Open Space (OS), Recreation Commercial (RC), and Neighborhood Commercial (N) designations. Staff feels this is appropriate because a Master Plan is being processed simultaneously. The Master Plan will determine precise land use on the site and act as a specific plan in implementing the Combination District. . , ’ ’ ‘I b 6 MINUTES As proposed, the GPA would not change the number of dwelling units that would be allowed under the City's Growth Management Ordinance but would, instead, reallocate them throughout the site, whereby some areas would be clustered--particularly near the golf course--and other areas would be single family. It is important to note that the lower density SFR's are located in proximity to the lagoon. The density of the proposed Master Plan would equal 3.19 du's per acre. The number of du's over the property would not be intensified through this GPA request. Commercial uses are intensified. Recreation Commercial (RC) would be increased from 22 to 38 acres for purposes of allowing the destination resort and associated commercial uses. A new 15 acre Neighborhood Commercial designation for a neighborhood shopping center is also proposed with this GPA. The intensification of the RC designation is recommended by staff because of the positive land use and economic benefits of the proposed resort hotel and because the RC designation is a low density designation. Staff also recommends support of the 15 acre Neighborhood Commercial designation of the proposed neighborhood shopping center because the shopping center would be fiscally viable at this location and the location of this commercial center within the project area would also help to minimize traffic congestion impacts off- site since project residents and guests would not have to travel off the property for day-to-day shopping needs. Overall, staff feels that the GPA is appropriate and acceptable. This conclusion assumes that the proposed project Master Plan concept of a destination resort hotel and golf course surrounded by a variety of residential uses is acceptable to the City of Carlsbad. Land uses within the project appear compatible with one another, the strict development standards and design guidelines as identified within the Master Plan should ensure the project's compatibility with adjacent predominately low-medium density residential properties. In addition, the changes to the General Plan are justified by the requirements of the project to dedicate Batiquitos Lagoon, adequate park land, and the establishment of adequate public facilities up front. Master Plan - The Master Plan is the controlling document for the site. It becomes the zoning and implements the General Plan Combination District designations, and specifically locates those uses on site. Staff recognized early in the planning process that the site had extraordinary topographic, scenic, and environmental qualities. With this understanding, a number of environmental and quality of development goals were developed by staff and the applicant to guide the drafting of the Master Plan and future development. These goals included protection of the lagoon and other environmental resources, development of a world class destination resort, as well as providing a balanced mix of land uses. Planning for this project essentially entailed: (1) dividing the property into 32 individual planning areas based on use types, topographic characteristics, utility corridors, major roadways, and natural vegetation; (2) d evelopment of conceptual site plans per planning area based on site specific opportunities and constraints identified during weekly site visits; and (3) development of planning area specific and community-wide design and development standards which ultimately serve to tie the community together. CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 8 COMMISSIONERS . ’ ., I ‘9 _I P *? MINUTES CORRECTED *' \ ? November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 9 COMMISSIONERS ’ This Master Plan establishes allowable uses per planning area, maximum development intensities, development standards and guidelines, community-wide landscape, architectural, and other design guidelines. The Master Plan implements the General Plan, the zoning, and provides guidance for development of all aspects of the property. Approximately 43% of the Master Plan area is comprised of open space, including Batiquitos Lagoon, its wetlands, and a community park. Otherwise, individual neighborhood developments are proposed throughout the remainder of the property. Each neighborhood or planning area is proposed to include compatible land uses and product types. In addition to the aforementioned open space, additional open space areas have been identified through the Master Plan in each individual planning area where tree groves, sensitive coastal habitats, and steep slopes exist. The development standards of the Master Plan will ensure that all development is kept out of these sensitive or constrained areas of the project. Planning Areas 1, 2, 10, and 11 will function as the focal point of the Master Plan. Planning Area 1 includes the project's 18 hole golf course, clubhouse, and driving range. Planning Area 2 includes a destination resort hotel. Planning Area 10 includes a membership Community Sports Center. Planning Area 11 includes two major restaurants. Excluding Planning Areas 6, 32, and 23 which are proposed for an elementary school site, a community park with daycare and church facility areas, and a 15 acre neighborhood commercial center respectively, the remainder of the planning areas are proposed for residential uses. A variety of housing types are proposed for the property. Six planning areas will include minimum 7,500 sq. ft. lot, standard single family detached du's. Four planning areas include small-lot, detached family product types. Fourteen planning areas will include multiple family housing. The Master Plan requires that all residential planning areas proposed for 7,500 sq. ft. lots comply with the R-l zone. All other residential planning areas must comply with the PUD ordinance standards. Special standards have also been applied to each planning area regarding increased setbacks and landscaping between the individual planning areas and lagoon and the different product types. A major provision of the Master Plan requires the developer to submit SDP's prior to the development of every planning area. This will allow the City the opportunity to review each individual planning area to ensure that specific development standards and conditions per planning area are applied. Also, each site plan and application will require additional environmental review. Phase I TentativeHap - In accordance with the Master Plan, the Phase I Tentative Map as proposed would provide for development of a maximum of 1,522 du's over 531 acres. This includes 99 standard SFR's, 230 small lot SFR's, and 1,193 MF du's. The Master Tentative Map would also lay out the lots for a 171.5 acre 18 hole golf course and clubhouse, a 560 room destination resort hotel, a community sports center, two restaurants, and a 12.4 acre elementary school site. The 1,522 du's are not being approved in the Master Tentative Map. The Master Tentative Map only approves the 99 standard SFR's. The remainder of the units require either a PUD or a CP in conjunction with the Master Tentative Map. The 99 standard SFR lots are located in Planning Areas 3 and 13. The overall density of Phase I, is 3.23 du's per acre. . ’ ._ ’ r,/ ” # 2. P November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 10 COMMISSIONERS v As proposed, the Tentative Map meets all the requirements of the Carlsbad Zoning Ordinance, subdivision ordinances, and the State Map Act. The proposed lots will be adequate in size and shape to accommodate development permitted through the Master Plan. The Phase I Tentative Map complies with the grading and resource protection policies of the underlying LCP's and also complies with the development and design provisions of the City's recently adopted Hillside Ordinance. A Non-residential PUD along with a SDP is necessary for the development of Planning Areas 1, 2, 10, and 11. A CP is required for Planning Area 9. The Planning Area 1 portion of Phase I is proposed for the development of an 18 hole championship golf course with putting greens, driving range and clubhouse. The golf course has been designed to be located within the valleys of the property whereby the adjacent natural tree groves and side slopes will be maintained in open space. The clubhouse has been set back a minimum of 175 feet from the Batiquitos Lagoon wetlands boundary. In order to ensure the clubhouse is not visually intrusive from La Costa Avenue or otherwise, the clubhouse has been designed to include adequate structural relief, limiting height to 28 feet maximum, and limiting structural length to 200 feet. Planning Area 2 will consist of a 254 suite main hotel, 144 conference suites with associated conference buildings, 99 hillside retreat suites, 72 hotel villas, and associated restaurant, ballroom, banquet, and other retail hotel facilities. In addition, this planning area will include a 671 space parking structure, a hotel recreation area, and linear water feature. The resort hotel and facilities have been designed to terrace down a prominent hillside whereby a majority of the natural side slopes are maintained in open space. Planning Area 9 will consist of 100 MF residential condominiums developed in six and ten-plex structures, two community recreation areas each including a pool, spa, and barbeque will also be included within this planning area. Otherwise this project complies with the Master Plan development standards as well as the PUD Ordinance. Planning Area 10 consists of a community sports center. Uses will include a 30,000 sq. ft. sports center with cafe, 12 tennis courts, a 50 meter pool and diving pool and a 350 space parking structure located beneath the tennis courts. This membership facility will be available for use by guests of the hotel and residents of the community. Planning Area 11 will include two restaurants with a maximum floor area of 17,380 sq. ft. The proposed restaurants will front on a major community water feature which extends from the main hotel southward along a natural drainage way and terminating within the 18th fairway of the golf course. A parking lot will also be provided in this planning area. Planning Areas 4, 8, and 14 will include 103, 75 and 32 small lot SFR's respectively. Staff has reviewed the Master Tentative Map and PUD's for these areas and concludes that, overall, the subdivision layout complies with the development standards of the Master Plan. However, since the projects are single family, the applicant has been conditioned to provide additional information regarding building footprints, guest parking places, recreational amenities, and floor . . . ! “I: a I’ r\ *? MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 11 COMMISSIONERS y plans. Staff will be able to review these PlJD's relative to compliance with the PUD Ordinance when they are submitted for review. Overall, staff recommends approval of these applications with the condition that the additional information be submitted for review prior to final map approval. Staff also recommends approval of the Local Facilities Plan for Zone 19, EIR 83-2A, GPA 85-2, LCPA 87-4 and 87-5, MP 177, CT 85-35, CP 323, PUD 102, 103, 104, 105, and SDP 86-2. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, concluded the staff report by reviewing the issues which were created while staff worked with the applicant on the Master Plan and how they were resolved. 1. Height of the hotel. One floor has been removed by the applicant and the hotel now meets the City ordinances. 2. A planning area proposed at the intersection of El Camino Real and La Costa Avenue, near the wetlands area. Staff did not feel this was an adequate restaurant site due to the environmental sensitivity. HP1 has withdrawn this request from their proposal. 3. Length of the golf clubhouse located on the south side of Pacific Rim Drive. Staff felt that the length of the clubhouse facing La Costa Avenue was too long. After reviewing several similar clubhouses, particularly the one at Fairbanks Ranch which is in a similar situation environmentally due to the flood plane, it was determined that the length was justified by the type of architectural relief being used and since this type of world class resort would require an above-average clubhouse structure. 4. Parks. Based on the City's Growth Management Ordinance, the applicant will be dedicating 24.5 acres of park land concurrently with the first final map of the project. 5. Reservation of sites in the Master Plan for churches and daycare facilities. The applicant has reserved space adjacent to the community park for church and daycare facilities. 6. Continuation of Daisy Avenue. Staff met last week with representatives of Daisy Avenue (Spinnaker Hills) and received positive input from their concerns. The homeowners are worried about construction traffic on Daisy from the development of Area 29 and, ultimately, they are worried about a possible increase in traffic through their neighborhood after construction is completed. The construction traffic problem has been resolved by requiring a condition for closure gates and signs during construction. Staff could not support the ultimate closure of Daisy at this time since it was felt that Daisy could actually decrease traffic in the Spinnaker Hills development and it was also needed for public safety. Staff did agree to add a condition to require a traffic study prior to the development of Planning Area 29 to see if Daisy can be closed. There were no questions by Commissioners on the staff report. Larry Clemens, representing the applicant, Hunt Properties, Inc., 7007 El Camino Real, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and commended staff members for their substantial contributions and guidance on the plans being presented for I . - ‘ I *, ( ,’ : r~ ,? MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 12 COMMISSIONERS \ 7 the Pacific Rim project. He cited Charles Grimm, Chris DeCerbo, Phil Carter, Gary Wayne, Clyde Wickham, Barbara Nedros, and Ann Ferguson for their extraordinary efforts. After introducing the HP1 consultants and company representatives present in the gallery, he showed a ten minute slide presentation illustrating the scope, benefits, and specifics of the proposed Pacific Rim project. After the slide presentation, Mr. Clemens reviewed the public facility provisions and Hunt Properties adherance to the Growth Management Ordinance including density, parks, circulation, open space and schools. He concluded by saying that HP1 has listened to the community and staff and has met or exceeded every requirement imposed since January 1985. RECESS The Planning Commission recessed at 7:17 p.m. and reconvened at 7:28 p.m. Chairman Marcus requested that the record show receipt of a packet of support letters from residents of North County, and a letter from the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce dated November 3, 1987 signed by Gerald L. Long, 1987 President, encouraging support of the Pacific Rim project. Chairman Marcus announced to the gallery that she and all members of the Planning Commission have had an opportunity to tour the 1,400 acre project site. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, introduced Tom Larkin in the gallery, a consultant with Westec Services who had prepared the EIR. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Girard "Lefty" Anear, 1728 Calavo Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he was formerly a member of the Traffic Circulation Committee and a past Fire Chief for the City of Carlsbad. Mr. Anear recommended that Arena1 Road (between La Costa Avenue and Alga Road) be extended through to El Camino Real to provide vehicular access due to its proximity to Fire Station #2. He feels that the proposed Fire Station #4 is too far away to provide adequate fire service to the southeast portion of Zone 19. He feels Arena1 Road would also be a scenic bicycling route. Bill Dean, 765 Normandy, Encinitas, representing the Batiquitos Lagoon Foundation addressed the Commission and stated that the Board of Directors wished to go on record with their concerns regarding the Pacific Rim Project. A letter dated November 4, 1987 signed by Seena Trigas, President, was presented for inclusion in the minutes. The Foundation recommendations that (1) the City exercise strict control over the grading of the upland area in order to avoid siltation into the lagoon, (2) the developer provide walking trails, information kiosks, and overlook points in and around the lagoon, and (3) the developer provide an information display of the lagoon project including models, renderings, photographs for public view in the golf course clubhouse. Ron Zawistowski, 1009 Daisy Avenue, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he is concerned about the extension of Daisy Avenue. In particular, he is against anything that will increase traffic on Daisy since he feels . ’ .I ! ) -( (, 4 t November 4, 1987 f-. MINUTES CORRECTED PLANNING COMMISSION Page 13 COMMISSIONERS \“z it is poorly designed and curves inhibit visibility, especially children. He feels that more traffic will only increase the problem. Since Daisy now serves as a major collector for the Spinnaker Hills and the Vista Pacifica tracts, he would like to see it looped and return to Batiquitos Lagoon. Robert Wilkinson, 7233 Mimosa, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he feels the street connection between Planning Area 3 and the Seaport tract will become a shortcut for vehicles who wish to deviate from Alga Road and proceed south on El Camino Real. He feels that opening Arena1 to traffic would relieve the situation. Jim McCormick, 2404 Sonora Court, Carlsbad, a trustee with the Carlsbad Unified School District, addressed the Commission and stated that another elementary school is critically needed since the newly opened Hope School is already at capacity. He would like to see the City move ahead with the proposed school. John Crist, Terranove Planning and Research, Palm Springs, representing the Hadley Trust, addressed the Commission and stated that they support the project but would like to see circulation for Zone 20 coordinated with Zone 19. Pamela Ansari, 1013 Daisy Avenue, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that an alternative to opening Daisy to through traffic would be to remove the fence and open Rose Avenue for emergency access. She does not want Daisy to be extended and would like to see the decision made now rather than later. Michael Evans, 7231 Mimosa Drive (Seaport tract), Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he has lived in his home behind the proposed Area 3 for 8 years and enjoys a beautiful view of the lagoon. He is concerned that his view of the lagoon will be blocked. Phyllis Jessee, 7230 Mimosa Drive (Seaport tract), Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she does not want Lupine Drive extended since it will affect the neighborhood children due to unnecessary traffic. She is also concerned about the existing Oak trees in the area and wonders if they will be destroyed or moved. She would like them boxed and moved to open space areas to preserve the natural beauty. Gary Truax, 7211 Mimosa Drive (Seaport tract), Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he would like to see the lot size in Planning Areas 3 and 4 be the same as the Seaport tract, namely 7,500 sq. ft. Kay Christiansen, 2808 Carlsbad Boulevard, Carlsbad, a member of the Carlsbad Historical Commission, addressed the Commission and stated that Carlsbad contains many historical remains due to the changing coastline over thousands of years. She pleaded for mitigation of areas #691 and #692 because development would desicrate vital historical sites. Larry Sebastian, 3315 Cadencia Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he supports the Pacific Rim development. He feels that staff has done a good planning job and that the development will enhance property values. Allen D. Williams, 7652 Primavera Way, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he supports the Pacific Rim . ’ . *,. ‘1.’ , 1 : MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 14 COMMISSIONERS ’ \ project since it is a well balanced development and will bring increased revenue to the area. Father William N. Moquin, 7792 Falda Place, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that as Vicar of the new Holy Cross Episcopal Church in La Costa, it has been difficult to find available land that is suitable for a church. He is pleased with HPI's desire to set aside church and daycare areas. Amad Rajin, 7115 Mimosa Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he hopes the Commissioners appreciate the fact that present residents are afraid for their areas. Many spots in Planning Area 4 fall under Condition #25 of Resolution i/2604. He feels that the tract map ignores the Hillside Ordinance. Emil Osberg, 7214 Mimosa Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he would like to see Mimosa prevented from being a collector street. He is concerned with parking because the street is only 35 ft. wide at the curb. He feels the model is incorrect since it implies that all traffic must exit on Alga and the model doesn't show all roads. He would like to know where guests will park since many lots have little or no curbside parking due to their pie-shaped lots. Ed Scarpelli, 929 Orchid Way, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that Spinnaker Hills has been without school and/or park facilities for over 10 years. He supports the Pacific Rim project as proposed since it will bring many needed facilities to the area. Jack Shumacher, 7217 San Miguel, Carlsbad, President of the Lakeshore Gardens Resident Organization, addressed the Commission and stated that he is in favor of the project and especially the golf course. He urged approval. Beverly Watson, 7011 Aster Place (Seaport tract), Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she has watched this project since inception. She feels very comfortable with the project and gives it her full support. Cindy Ward, 937 Begonia Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she is a resident of Spinnaker Hills and has followed the progress of this Master Plan since inceptions. She is happy that many of her concerns have been eliminated and especially with the density reduction and HPI's compliance with the standards. She wants the 2,836 units held with no increase. Julie Nygaard, a trustee with the Carlsbad Unified School District, addressed the Commission and publicly thanked the HP1 staff for caring about children and providing an area for school, church, and daycare facilities. She wholeheartedly supports the Pacific Rim project. Paul Schwartz, 3544 Simsbury Court, Carlsbad, representing the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, addressed the Commission and stated that the Chamber of Commerce would like to go on record in support of the Pacific Rim project. The Chamber recognizes the economic, cultural, educational, and public improvement benefits that this project will bring to the community as well as the fiscal benefits to the City of Carlsbad. P T MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 15 Gary Crouch, a resident of the Seaport tract, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he owns two properties in Seaport, one at 7009 Aster, and the second at 7010 Mimosa. He has looked closely at the project. He thinks it can work to benefit the community and he supports it. Joe Reed, 1008 Daisy Avenue, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he supports the Pacific Rim development and recommends support. Jana Regan, 1010 Daisy Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she supports the Pacific Rim project especially since it is a Master Plan community. She feels the design is excellent and that the project will be a real plus to the City of Carlsbad. She is especially happy about the new elementary school. William Savage, Box 773, Ranch0 Santa Fe, addressed the Commission and stated that he is one of the four property owners in Zone 19. He is concerned about density since he was originally quoted a density of 322 du's which has now been reduced by 38% to 197 du's. As one of the property owners, he cannot be part of a plan with such a radical density reduction. He wants the density figure to remain at 322 per his agreement with staff. Chairman Marcus requested staff to respond to the items cited in the public testimony. 1. View protection over Planning Area 3 from the Seaport tract - Charles Grimm replied that the City has no view protection ordinance and has not elected to adopt one. The Master Plan contains guidelines requesting view preservation whenever possible. They have tried to protect the views in Seaport as much as possible but cannot guarantee all residents an unobstructed view of the lagoon or ocean from that area. There are a few houses which will be impacted but the impact should not be radical. 2. Density of the project - Charles Grimm replied that Chris DeCerbo had indicated earlier that the overall density is SFR-type density although there are MF projects. The MF densities allowed us some areas as a trade-off for increased open space. 3. Archaeological - Tom Larkin, the Westec consultant, responded to the question on Sites #691 and #692 stating that there are two basic ways to mitigate potential archaeological impacts in conformance with the Environmental Quality Act. One method would be to place the site in open space; another method would be to implement a data collection/recovery program to salvage material from the site. A data collection/recovery program would need to be approved by the city before implementation. Some sites are not feasible to classify as open space. Often, archaeological sites placed in open space are vandalized by off-road activity. 4. Oak trees - Charles Grimm replied that no provision has been made yet to box mature trees and replant them in open space. However, the applicant must provide a tree plan before construction can begin. All major tree removal must have advance approval of the Planning Director. 5. Density grea;er than the Growth Management Plan - Phil Carter replied that density over the growth control point may ,p, MINUTES /7 November 4, 1987 CORRECTED PLANNING COMMISSION Page 16 be approved if there is a comparable reduction in density in the quadrant and the finding can be made that there are adequate public facilities. Although the Growth Management Plan would permit up to 4,300 du's, this Master Plan has a growth cap of 3,500. 6. Circulation - Dave Hauser, Assistant City Engineer, replied that: (a) Arena1 Road is not needed now and can be connected later. (b) He would like to see the Lupine connection made in order to spread the traffic. He feels that fire response time would be okay with or without Lupine. (c) Engineering feels that the Daisy Avenue extension would be more of a benefit to residents that a detriment because it would spread traffic. The developer will complete a traffic impact study prior to the developing of Planning Area 29. (d) Rose Street is not a public dedicated street. It leads into a greenhouse and is inadequate for Fire/Police vehicles. 7. Coordination between Zones 19 and 20 - Phil Carter replied that Zone 20 is currently under review and staff will make a specific effort to tie circulation between the two zones. 8. Open Space in Planning Areas 3 and 4 - Phil Carter replied that Planning Area 3 will contain approximately 50% open space, Planning Area 4 will contain approximately lo%, and Planning Area 5 will contain approximately 20% open space. 9. Guest Parking - Charles Grimm replied that guest parking is provided on the cul-de-sacs and 35 ft. is sufficient for guest street parking for SFR's, but not necessarily for multiples, which would be provided in bays. 10. Hillside Ordinance - Charles Grimm replied that the project does meet the City's Hillside Ordinance. There are certain areas along Alga which do not meet the requirements but there is a provision in the Hillside Ordinance excepting grading for arterial streets with rugged terrain. 11. Lot size - Charles Grimm replied that lots immediately adjacent to Seaport are 7,500 sq. ft. 12. Batiquitos Lagoon Foundation - Charles Grimm replied that: (a) The City Ordinance is very strict with regard to grading. Actually, grading is more strict than the ordinance requires because no grading will be allowed from October to April. (b) A trail system has been added to the Master Plan. Staff will require the developer to submit a detailed trail plan in advance. 13. Mr. Savage - Phil Carter replied that the purpose of the Growth Management Plan is to provide for public facilities; however, Proposition E implemented a residential growth cap. . . . ‘1 I “*I i’ ’ P -3 MINUTES Staff does not agree that Mr. Savage's request is proper at this time because the Growth Management Plan protects all property owners. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. RECESS The Planning Commission recessed at 8:57 p.m. and reconvened at 9:08 p.m. Chairman Marcus acknowledged receipt of a petition submitted by Cindy Ward and signed by 19 residents of Spinnaker Hills recommending that: (1) a density cap be placed on the Pacific Rim project at 2,836 du's; (2) Daisy Avenue be extended to the Pacific Rim project with an emergency gate allowing emergency vehicles only; (3) Batiquitos Drive leading to the lagoon is most appropriate and should remain unchanged; (4) the Pacific Rim hotel comply with the City's Height Ordinance; and (5) that the golf clubhouse be relocated since it obstructs the scenic view of the lagoon from motorists traveling on Pacific Rim Drive. Chairman Marcus allowed Mr. Clemens of HP1 time for rebuttal but he declined. However, he would like to respond to the Commissioners, if clarification of any item is requested. Chairman Marcus opened the Pacific Rim project for discussion among Commissioners. 1. Environmental Impact Report Commissioner McBane inquired if the applicant would consider designating the two sites mentioned in public testimony as historic sites so that persons with that concern could have a six month notice before conversion takes place. Those sites would then be listed in the cultural resources inventory of Carlsbad with video documentation, etc. to reserve those resources for posterity. Commissioner Schlehuber stated that the applicant may not have had an opportunity to read the Historic Sites Ordinance and needs to know that designating the two sites as historic sites is not a requirement but could be volunteered, if they so choose. Mr. Clemens replied that he has had an opportunity to review the Historic Sites Ordinance and would prefer to follow the Westec/HPI consultant's recommendation of the Phase II recovery program. Commissioner Schramm stated that the Westec consultant also mentioned that the wetlands area could be extended somewhat to include some of those historical portions. Commissioner McFadden responded that the two sites mentioned were not in the wetlands boundary. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the EIR report, as presented, was satisfactory. 2. Local Facilities Management Plan - Zone 19 Commissioner Hall inquired how the Hunt's received approval to prepare LFMP for Zone 19. CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 17 . . : / 1 L - 8 . ‘, - , ,1 MINUTES November 4, 1987 CORRECTED PLANNING COMMISSION Page 18 Phil Carter replied that the ordinance allows several ways for a plan to be prepared. In this case, a written authorization by each property owner in the zone. HP1 agreed orally to submit the plan and the other property owners agreed in writing to have HP1 submit the plan. Commissioner Schlehuber mentioned that Dr. Savage is concerned about the density figures and wonders whether the other owners have a problem with the density reduction. Phil Carter replied that staff has not been contacted by the other property owners so it is assumed they agree with the plan. Commissioner McFadden inquired why the operation and maintenance costs are not included for the pump which needs to be installed since the electricity alone costs $871/month. Phil Carter replied that the local growth management plan required not only that the developer provide the money necessary to upgrade the pump ahead of the City's CIP but it also requires that they pay the operating costs as well. The recommendations and findings which will ultimately come forth from the Sewer Master Plan Study should address the operating and maintenance costs of that lift station. David Hauser added that monthly sewer user charges also help to pay for operating expenses. Commissioner Schlehuber inquired how the emergency access situation on Arena1 will be addressed. Phil Carter replied that the Fire Department has reviewed the plan and layouts and feel that the plan is sufficient, considering where the Fire Stations are located. Commissioner McFadden stated that she had a great deal of trouble with the voluminous map material and the phasing of road development and inquired of the City Attorney if the LFMP takes precedence over the General Plan and Master Plans. Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney, replied that the LFMP can be amended in the future. Other approvals are specific to this project and are more detailed. All documents should be harmonious and consistent. The earliest and more restrictive will control, if specifically stated. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Local Facilities Management Plan for Zone 19, as presented, was satisfactory. 3. Local Coastal Plan Amendment Commissioner McFadden inquired about a typographical error in the grading period stated in item 4, page 8. The months are reversed and should be corrected. Commissioner McFadden inquired how enforcement to the Grading Ordinance will be handled. David Hauser replied that conditions can be more restrictive than the ordinance, if desired. He suggested that a Minute Motion could be made to have our Grading Ordinance revised to comply with the LCP. Gary Wayne replied that our Grading Ordinance is in the process of being revised. The LCP requires permits for all development within the Coastal Zone to ensure compliance. * ’ . ; I 11‘. , l ib l P November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 19 COMMISSIONERS \ -7 The Coastal Commission will only allow grading until October 1st but extensions can be granted. Sometimes illegal grading takes place but enforcement is a problem because the Coastal Commission has no enforcers. The City of Carlsbad will be the enforcer on this particular project. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Local Coastal Plan Amendment, as presented, will be satisfactory with the typographical error correction. 4. Master Plan Commissioner McFadden would like a condition added to the Master plan for sleeving reclaimed water. Larry Clemens, HPI, responded that this condition would be acceptable. Commissioner McFadden feels that Table A, page 18.E is misleading. After discussion, Commissioner Schramm suggested a Master Plan statement that the entire plan, as written, is based on 2,836 du's. Staff agreed that this statement could be added. Commissioner Schramm would like to see a temporary RV storage for Phase I included in the Master Plan. She can only see it included in Phase II. Charles Grimm replied that additional wording could be added on page 66 that until the RV storage in Planning Area 23 is available, that the applicant shall provide temporary RV storage in Phase I. Commissioner Schramm would like to see mature Oak trees boxed and reused. After discussion, staff agreed to add a condition requiring the tree plan to include reuse of mature Oak trees, whenever feasible. The tree plan would be approved by the Planning Commission when the SDP is presented. Commissioner McBane would be interested in seeing information on the cost and survival rates of reused Oak trees used on Palomar Airport Road. Commissioner Schlehuber would also be interested in a report on reused trees. Commissioner Hall does not feel that cost should be the criteria. He feels that the applicant can certainly find a place to relocate specimen trees. Commissioner Schramm would like a condition added to the school site on disposal and storage of toxic wastes. There was no opposition to the suggestion. Commissioner McBane inquired if anything was needed on Pacific Rim Drive to ensure that Arena1 Road can be extended at a later date. David Hauser replied that a condition could be included for a road easement in that area. Commissioner Schlehuber feels that future owners of the lots need to be noticed about the extension of Arena1 to avoid problems later. David Hauser replied that notes could be placed on the final map. He feels that the condition should be a part of the final tentative map. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Master Plan, as presented, will be satisfactory with the noted changes regarding temporary RV storage during Phase I, the du cap of 3500 du's, sleeving for reclaimed water, reuse of mature Oak trees, and a toxic waste condition on the school site. . . i f”Oa’ . . P 7 MINUTES CORRECTED November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 20 COMMISSIONERS 5. Master Tentative Map Commissioner Hall feels that the condition to extend Arena1 should be added in the Master Tentative Map and that all property owners in Planning Area 8 be noticed. David Hauser replied that staff needs an offer of dedication before an easement can be placed. Commissioner Schlehuber thinks that the Lupine connection is needed to help traffic circulation in the area but since the residents are unhappy about the connection he could accept a gate there for emergency access only. David Hauser replied that anytime you force people off roads you create problems but Engineering could live with an emergency gate and thinks this might be satisfactory with the Fire Department also. Since there is secondary access to the area, it would not violate the cul-de-sac policy. If Unit 113 is built before Unit #4 the Lupine connection would be needed for secondary access. Commissioner Hall feels that Lupine should be left open because artificial barriers cause a great disservice to the community unless they relate to a specific safety issue. He believes that the connection will not increase traffic. The general consensus was that the Lupine connection should remain open. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Map, as presented, will be satisfactory w the future extension of Arenal. Master Tentative ith a provision for 6. Site Development Plan Commissioner McFadden referred to Condition 1175, page 18, Resolution 2595, stating that this road will be private. She would like to see this road remain public until the road through Spinnaker Hills is opened. Commissioner Schlehuber stated that there may be problems with a private street being used by the public. Ron Ball replied that road maintenance is a primary factor. David Hauser also cited street width and that a public hearing would be required as well as an irrevocable offer of dedication. Larry Clemens, HPI, responded that if lots are sold as part of a gated community and the street is open to the public, it would cause the owners a problem. With a gated street, emergency vehicles only are permitted access. Commissioner McFadden would like some assurance that the golf course and clubhouse will remain public. Charles Grimm replied that the shuttle will not be public and will be provided for hotel guests and members. There is adequate parking at the clubhouse. A condition could be added to retain the public parking. Commissioner McFadden inquired about the lounge in Condition i/20. Charles Grimm replied that the applicant has requested the lounge to be private for club members only. The restaurant will remain public and cocktails will be served in the restaurant. Commissioner McBane voiced concern about the dead end corridors in the parking structure and potential parking . . I b ,’ * I \l c * . 4 ‘I l ,.--Y MINUTES CORRECTED -4 COMMISSIONERS ’ \ November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 21 problems. The structure is multi-level and the portion that looks like a wall is actually a ramp to the upper level. Larry Clemens, HPI, replied that the parking structure is not portrayed very well in the renderings but that it will provide more than sufficient access. Randi Cooper-Smith added that the final parking design is not yet complete but that the structure will contain the specified number of parking spaces. Commissioner Schlehuber suggested staff consider conditioning the dead end corridors. Charles Grimm replied that if the final parking design is inadequate, the applicant loses hotel rooms as a trade-off. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Site Development Plan, as presented, will be satisfactory with the added condition to retain public parking at the clubhouse. 8. Planned Unit Developments Commissioner McFadden inquired about Resolution 2608, Exhibit Cl (Map). She doesn't like people backing out into a 32 ft. roadway since it is a major thoroughfare up the hill from the recreation and restaurants. She is also not happy with the turnaround and would like the City Engineer to take a careful look at this Map. Commissioner McFadden inquired about the extent of the Commission's approval of the PUD's in Resolution 2604, page 8, Condition #33. She wonders if approval of the PUD now will allow the Commission the ability to move buildings or change lots around when the maps return for final approval. Ron Ball replied that the Planning Commission has the power to change or modify the lot lines and configuration of lots if subconditions A, B, C and D are not able to be met. Commissioners unanimously agreed that the Planned Unit Developments, as presented, were satisfactory with the exception of Planning Area 8 which the Engineering Department has been asked to review. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt Resolution No. 2698 recommending approval of LFMP 87-19, Resolution No. 2592 recommending certification of EIR 83-2(A) plus certification of Negative Declarations for LFMP 87-19, CT 85-35, CP-323, PUD-102, SDP 86-2, PUD-103, PUD-104, and PUD-105, and adopt Resolution Nos. 2593, 2594, 2595, 2596, 2604, 2605, 2606, 2607, 2608 and 2699 recommending approval of GPA/LU 85-2, LCPA 87-4 (LCPA 87-2A), LCPA 87-5 (LCPA 87-2B), MP-177, CT 85-35, CP-323, PUD-102, SDP 86-2, PUD-103, PUD-104, and PUD-105, based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein and including the corrections stated in the staff memo dated November 3, 1987 which was represented to have the approval of HP1 as well as revisions recommended by Commissioners to include: (a) correcting the grading period in item 4, page 8 of the LCPA, (b) providing for temporary RV storage during Phase I of the MP, (c) adding a dwelling unit cap of 3,500 to the MP although the MP is based on 2,830 dwelling units, (d) adding a condition to sleeve for reclaimed water, (e) adding a condition to require the tree plan to include reuse of mature Oak trees wherever possible, (f) adding ~l~df~LJ~~~~kl$tb~~~~J~~~~~~~~~J~~J~~~J~~~~~~J~~~~ Hall Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm . - 1 m ’ f ‘g -’ : I’, 4 L - -4 November 4, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 22 COMMISSIONERS ’ \ the standard condition which states that the school site has not been used for storage or disposal of toxic wastes pursuant to Section 25300 of the Health and Safety code, (g) making provisions for the future extension of Arena1 and noticing future landowners of the planned extension, (h) retention of public parking at the golf course clubhouse, (i) requiring approval of the parking structure by the City Engineer, and (j) requiring additional review by the Engineering Department of the street/structure layout of Planning Area 8 in PUD-102 (Exhibit C-l of Resolution 2608). Larry Clemens, HPI, thanked the Planning Commissioners for their perseverance in reviewing all of the voluminous data associated with the Pacific Rim project. The Planning Commission extended a special thanks to staff for their efforts in negotiating, coordinating, and preparing all of the material needed to complete the project to this point. ADDED ITEMS AND REPORTS: Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to appoint Commissioner Sharon Schramm as a member of the Design Review Board. MINUTES: Approval of the minutes were continued to the following meeting on November 12, 1987. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting of November 4, 1987 was adjourned to 6:00 p.m. on November 12, 1987 at the Safety Center. Respectfully submitted, Planning Director BETTY BUCKNER Minutes Clerk MINUTES ARE ALSO TAPED AND KEPT ON FILE UNTIL THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. Hall Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm X K K K K K K X X X X X X With the approval of Proposition E bu votsrs in last November's slsotion, overall residential dwelling units CRDU'sI wure reduced throuphout the city to place a 135,000 population cap in the city at build-out. RDlJ's on the Hunt property were reduced from Lf,300 to 2,636 unite, This reduction in density brings ths Pacific Rim flaster Plan more into compliance with air quality standards; helps reduce intenss projected traffic congestion; allows more open space; will improve ths overall eesthetic appearanca of this prime coastal property; and will decrease the number of multi-family dwellinps, resulting in a mot8 balanced community. For ths above reasons, it is recommend8d that the city dsnu HPI'a request for a provision that would allow an increase in residential dwslling units if they should become available. The citu's 8ngineering department has tak8n the position that the Spinnaker Hill development Cwhich consists of 306 single family homes1 must have a secondary "east" access for circulation and emsrgeiicy purposes. Daisy Avenus, which is used by approximately 75% of all residents to 8nt8r and exit ths development, is proJected to connect to the Pacific Rim dsvslopmsnt to provide this secondary acc8se. While it is eaau to understand staff's position, residents recognire that this would increase ths elraadg existing safety hazard on Daisy Avenue due to its heavy use, steep grade, and the inability to control speeding traffic. If Daisy Avsnus were connected, it would become a direct shortcut to Interstate 5 for manu additional residents. It i&Ucommendsd that an emsrqsncu qats be placed betwssn the two developments and that this connection not be made for circulation purposes. Eatiquftos Lagoon is one of Carlsbad’s most beautiful resourc8s which is to bscoms publicly owned. The current str88t nams *Batiquitos Drive” that leads to the lagoon is most appropriate and should remain unchanged. The hsiuht of ths Pacific Rim hotel sxcesds the citu’s maximum buildinq height limitation. In addition, the hotel will be placed on one of the most prominent, visible hills on tha Hunt property. Compliance, with this ordinance is essential in order to maintain the city’s aesthetic appearance. Exception8 to this ordinance should not be mad8 under anu circumetancas in that it sets a precedence for making exceptions to other developments and ultimately undermines ths int8nt of its purpose, Tha golf clubhouse is located 8outh of Pacific Rim Drive. Due to the location and dssiqn Cths length of th8 structure), it obstructs the scenic view of the lagoon from motorists traveling on Pacific Rim Drive. It is recommendad that ths golf clubhouse be redesigned or rslocatsd, c I, &t undurstgned Spinnaker Hill homeowner, recommend the implimentati~n of the attached conditions to the Pacific Rim IYhs~er PlcUr. nAmE ADDRESS a /z -. A-A, ..- A a. I-- r- w- nGl*,A CT; / ’ --- - ! . BARQUTTOS LAGOON FOUNbATION p.0. Box 31~ C=kd. CA 92008 Planning Commission Carlsbad City Hall November 4, 1987 The Board of Directors of the Batiquitos Lagoon Founda- tion on November 3, 1987 reviewed the proposed “Pacific Rim County Club and Resort” (Nov ‘87) Master Plan and wishes to go on record with the following comments: 1. The Board has no objection to the development plan as proposed for the area outside of the wetland buffer ares. 2. The Board is concerned that many issues in the Batiquitos Lagoon Enchancement Plan have not been resolved as yet. It is imperative that the Pacific Rim Master plan be con- sistent with the final Lagoon Enchancement Plan. 3. The Board recommends that the City exercise strict control over the grading of the upland area in order to avoid any siltation into the lagoon. Due to the massive grading required by this project, it is recommended that a specific grading plan with all necessary controls be pre- pared by the developer and considered in a public hearing before a permit is issued. This will enable concerned parties to review and approve the grading prior to construction. 4. The Board recommends that the plans and conditions for a trail system around the lagoon also be prepared by the developer and plans be considered in a public hearing. The trail system, parking areas, information kiosks, and overlook points require coordination with those agencies involved in the lagoon enchancement plan. The construction of the trail system must dovetail with the lagoon enhancement plan and must conform to environmental requirements which have not yet been determined. The Foundstion urges that the lagoon trail be built by the developer at the earliest possible time. 5, The Board believes that the Pacific Rim project will be greatly enhanced by the lagoon project. There is no doubt that the lagoon itself is a central feature of the entire project. Therefore we feel that the developer should be required to submit a specific plan for the lagoon features and include construction schedules, architectural detsils and budget proposals for the public access facilities around the lagoon. These might inlude a meeting room, visitor centrr, information display, models, renderings, photographs and the like, to be located in the golf course clubhouse. In addition, a gift shop and fund raising program for the benefit of the Lagoon Foundation would be desirable. E 2 We do not seek to delay approval of the Master Plan, but we urge the City to clearly condition the project so that the specific requirements for the lagoon enhancement plan can be added to this Master Plan at a later date. We believe the developer should be required to pay for the features of the lagoon plan which lie within the Master Plan area. Since the lagoon will suffer loss of the upland area, we believe some mitigation should be required. The Bstiquitos Lagoon Foundation has in the past supported the Pacific Rim project. We continue that support. We now urge the City to direct your planning staff to work with the developer and this Foundation to complete a specific plan for the trail and public features of the lagoon plan and to submit it for environmental revkew arid public hearing. In summary, the Foundation believes the developer has presented an excellent Master Plan which complies with the needs which have been identified in the past. We note that the continuous trail along the north shore is shown on the Master Plan. We also note that the commercial site on the northwest corner of El Camino and La Costa has been deleted. This is consistent with the recommendations of the Foundation. We wish to commend the developer for his efforts to confer with the Foundation and other individuals and groups in order to inform and respond to the needs of neighbors. As this development plan and the lagoon enhance- ment plan move forward, the Batiquitos Lagoon Foundation will work to coordinate the many details still unresolved. We are pleased with the progress being made, and we intend to be diligent in representing the interest of the general public in the lagoon and the specific interests of the environmental community. Seena Trigas, President Batiquitos Lagoon Foundation CHAMBER OF COMMERCE Mary Marcus Chairman, Planning Commission City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Ave. Carlsbad, Ca. 92008 November 3, 1987 Dear Chairman Marcus: The Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce is an organisation of in- dividuals and businesses which strive to enhance the economic and civic well being of the City of Carlsbad. Our stated objective is to encourage the development of the employment base in our community, promote the business activities of both present and future businesses, and enhance the overall quality of life for our citizenry. With this In mind, the Chamber of Commerce recognizes the sig- nificant contribution the Pacific Rim project will have toward the achievement of these goals for our community. Your con- sideration of the far reaching benefits of this project in terms of the increased tax base, public facilities improvements and overall enhancement of our quality of life, is important when making a decision regarding the future of the proposal. The Chamber of Commerce encourages your support of the Pacific Rim projeat and any other private sector efforts, whether large or small, which accomplish these shared goals. Again, thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, 5411 Avenida En&as, Suite 100 l P.O. Box 1605 l Carlsbad,CaIifornia 92008 l (619) 7294924 1 . PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB AN-D RESORT SUPPORTER LETTERS l . c October 29, 1987 Personal Delivery City of Carlsbad RE: PACIFIC RIM ~1 am taking this opportunity to convey my feelings regarding the proposed Pacific Rim project in south Carlsbad. Usually, in this community, it is the opposition to projects that we read about and is most vocal. It is important that you like- wise hear from supporters. The community of Carlsbad is a tremendous conglomerate of age groups I geographical origins across the country, as well as philosophical ideologies. I take great pride in the fact that our family moved to Carlsbad 30 years ago, and we have been here since. It is a wonderful place to live. We have seen this community develop in a significant way and have watched the quality of life improve (contrary to what some would have you believe). I have likewise watched the progress of this proposed Pacific Rim project, &nd seen it be put through the most outrageous demands, yet the developers have continually been very patient and accomodating in attempting to mitigate the various challenges. I am very pleased with the site development plan, the amount and type of open space proposed, the development controls it will incorporate, as well as the varied communities it will create for our diversified community. I am especially pleased with the significant community facilities to be provided as a result of this project. My family strongly urges that you approve this project. We are sure- it will prove to be a blessing to our community. Cordially, 11. Von Packard, Jr. Family --. , ‘41 IUW WI A’,IA 5: ‘;lAtF CAm”,t !xcrlhMcrriclc! ?.A ‘IHI f’+l(lt@ \glhl U’, j?Jl aSlllKl rPr( 2121 PALOMAR AtPPQl71 RD 5UlC ‘% WRl.SRAI) Cl WXFJ -mvE f6lw A18 39u FROM CSCMKIIDO ARE A ;AA 7223 WILLIAM A. CRAVEN SENATOR 38TH DlSTRtCT VICE CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE ON RULES October 27, 1987 Ms. Mary Marcus, Chair Carlsbad Planning Commission 2075 Las Palmas Carlsbad CA 92009 Dear Chairwoman Marcus: It is my understanding that next week your Commission will consider an application from Pacific Rim relative to land use and their project within the City of Carlsbad. I have had the opportunity of observing portions of the planning phase by Pacific Rim on their project, and have been duly impressed. It would appear to me that every attention to detail has been attended to and I am further idpressed with some of the ancillary benefits which presumably would inure to the City. I refer to the arterial scheme which I think would have a tendency to alleviate some of the traffic problems, and also I am advised that a park site and elemen-, tary school site hae been set aside and dedicated to the City, and perhaps a more selfish guise, the fact that Pacific Rim intends to do extensive work on the Batiquitos Lagoon, and ultimately transfer the property to the State of California is more impressive. In all, it would appear that there is and has been excellent planning* I am confident that construction would be of the highest quality, and, further, the entire Master Plan of Development seems to provide considerable open space which I feel is beneficial to the City and its residents. In short, I urge your ca trust that you will look the project,. and I d AGMCULTURC AM0 WATER RLSOURCCS WSIHESS AN0 l AOCCSSIONS rl.tcslws LOCAL GOVLRNMCNT d . . I October 27, 1987 Dear Larry: I would like to take this opportunity to express my thanks for your continuing efforts to address the concerns and interests of the Spinnaker Hill Homeowners. Your Pacific Rim Project presentation given to the homeowners on August 13th was informative in its cover- age of a broad range of issues. Moreover, I appreciate your sincerity and commit- ment in meetings between you and representatives of our homeowner's group. In discussions with many of the Spinnaker Hill pro- perty ownere, I find that the majority of them are pleased with the Pacific Rim project a6 it has been presented. Thank you again for your cooperation and communica- tion with our property owners. cc: Lewie Kulchin Pettine Lareen Me.Uk&llX Hubbs Holemiller L Sincerely, : WOOOSlOK/KU~OTA dl ASSOCIATRS, INC. October 27, 1987 Planning Commission City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 Subject: LFMP 87-19 / EIR 83-2(A) / GPA/LU 85-2 / LCPA 87-4 (LCPA 87.2A) / LCPA 87-5 (LCPA 87-25) / MP-177 / CT 85-35 / CP-323 / PUD-102 / PUD-103 / PUD-104 / PUD-105 / SDP 86-2 Applicant: PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB AND RESORT Mr. Chairman and CORIIissfoners: Thank you for this opportunity to present our unqualified support for the proposed Pacific Rim development, which is the subject of a public hearing on Wednesday, November 4, 1987. We respectfully request that this letter be made a part of the official proceedfngs of that public hearing. Our community has been fortunate over the years to attract quality developments and in my professlonal opinion, Pacific Rim is truly an outstanding, large-scale comnunfty that will fully complement the urban developments already in place in the southwest sector of Carlsbad. As a matter of fact, Paciffc Rim has expended substantial energy and expense to communciate with the various nefghborhoods and has had long-term dialogue with the many public agencies and officials to insure the pursuit of excellence. Of major significance is the size of the development and the unique combination of land-use forms befng promulgated to serve the entire neighborhood as well as the community as a whole. Addftfonally, the urgently needed comnunfty-wfde public facilities have been addressed in total, resultfng in a substantial comnftment. In sumnary, we respectfully urge the Planning Commission to consider full approval of all elements of the Pacfffc Rim project as set forth in these proceedings. JYK:pf. PRP 8602 In Orngo County, Santa AN rqottember 28, 1987 maa& i*A.;- ;5. -A . . -- Carlsbad Plannine Uommiesion 2200 Elm Avenue Carlebad, CA 92008 dentlemenr We wish you to know that fo whole heartedly support The HP1 Development CO, and feel that their resort area and Master Plan is the type of development Carlsbad needs, We feel. that Larry Clemens has been very helpful to residents of our area and hm met with UC many tlmao to answer our questions, Most of our friends and neighbars feel as we do and would like for the IfPI Mastep plan to be approved by YOU. 915 Begonia Ct. Cmlebad, CA 92009 (Spinnaker fill) cat Mr. Larry Clemens _.... -- , \.’ coPYFoRYouR IRFORrCLnOR STANLEY D. PROWSE ATTORNEY AT LAW CAMINO CORPORATC CCNtCR 6365 CAMINO YIDA RO6LL, SUITE 101 CABLBMD, CALIFORNIA 92008 (bIDI 430-0460 Octoker 27, 1987 ,. : Carlsbad City Council 1200 Elm Street Carlsbad, CA 92008 Ret Pacific Rim LadLes and Gentlemen: My wife and I are both residents of the La Costa area of Carlsbad. We strongly support the Pacific Rim project. The project is un- doubtedly the highest quality, lowest density development that could be hoped for on the site. It will confer many substantial benefits on the city as a whole and the La Costa area in particular. We urge you to approve the project when it.comes before you. Thank you for your consideration. I STANLEY D. PROWSE ATTORNLY Al LAW CAMINO CORPORATE CCNTCR ISaS CAWINO VIDA ROSLL, SUITE 101 CARLSBAD.‘ CALIFOIWU 89008 10191 458-84eo October 27, 1987 . Carlsbad Planning Commission 1200 Elm Street Carlsbqd, CA 92008 Ret Pacific Rim Ladies and Gentlement My wife and I are both residents of the La Costa area of karlsbad. We strongly support the Pacific Rim project. The project is un- doubtedly the highest quality, lowest'density development that could be hoped for on the site. It will confer many substantial benefits on the city as a whole and the La Costa area in particular. We urge you to approve the project when it,comes before you. Thank you -for your consideration. SDPtmap -. Allan 0. Kelly IMPACT GEOLOGV Poal Office Box to55 Carlsbad, Call~omla 92008 Phone: 438-0885 October 27, 1987 The Bditor I wrote a letter to you a few weeks ago on the tlatfquitos Lagoon problem which you published and headed “Natural Law Not Enough for the Army Corp. ‘I Now the plot thickens and I am going to try again. Several people asked me for a copy of the little twenty-two pnge pamphlet that I wrote fn 1999 called BERNOULLI’S LAW APPLIED TO HARBOR ENTRANCES AND BRIDGES. I still have a few copies and will enclose one herewith. Bernoulli did not invent the law, it is Nature’s law. He only discovered It as Newton discovered the Law of Gravity. It took Bernoulli to explain the law and to apply it to the problems of that day. Since then, this particular one of Nature’s laws 1s sn often used in every day life that hardly nnyono even notlccs Jt. It is used In your carburetor, your water nozxles, your washing machines, nearly any air system, airplanes, jet englncs, etc. All of the expenslve rock jetties in the world not built to conform to this basic lnw of Nature will only fnil. Not only will they cause the lagoon ‘entrance to plug with sand rapJdly, they will cause down stream beach erosion and enhance the pnnd disappearance act. Leucadla and Encinitas will love Carlsbad for that! The Hunt Brothers “Pacific Rim” is a really high class, all around community project -- “World Class” -- that Carlsbad and even Lucadia citizens should be happy to have as a part of their ENVIRONMENT. It is big enough to have all the amenities -- small shopping center of a Country Store type, a post office, a gas station, and a little family park plus parking. Can you imagJne parking facilities at a park? There will be a public beech along the south side and a private hemh along the north side next to the residential property. The people opposing the “Pacific Rim” development are obviously the faddist environmentalist types who really care nothing for the environment, but would vote for it if give five State Lottery Tickets. I too an against the fast increasing traffic problem, but there are solutions for this problem that have nothing to do with the 1 “Pacific Rifa”. One of these solutions seeus to be the new County and City street improvements as delineated in Prop. A. If the County and the Cities buJld these much needed highway at once -- instead of one at a time, the problem would soon be solved or made much better. The environment argument aside, if the Corps of Engineers and the State were willing to allow the bridges and harbor entrance to be built an the Venturi Principle, the sandfng-up problem would be solved. The Hunt Brothers could build the Venturi type bridges and maintain a small fresh-water habitat for the bfrds. This would most probably be more economical than the jetties now proposed. The main body of clear ocean water would fill the bulk of the lagoon. The citizens would have something beautiful to look at instead of n stinking swamp that w.ill eventually sand-up to nothjng of any valuc- - to anybody. Sincerely, He Allan 0. Kelly d . . : I Ld w CONSTRUCTION MANAOEMENT COMM.“c,aB. O.Y,LOCM.NT . T.WANT IMCmoVmMmWT~ . UC. -3*m**s P.O. 00X AR64 0 LEUCAOIA. CA SOOPA 0 81 l3.m44-BPS0 Planning Commision CITY OF CARLSBAD 1200 Elm St Carlsbad, Ca 92008 10/25/87 Att; Chairman Re- PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB SUBJECT- SUPPORT OF THE MASTER PLAN Congradulations to the City Council and the Planning Commission on a well defined plan for the Batiquitos Lagoon and the surrounding Amenities you insisted the developers provide for the community. I trust the efforts and time spent will be supportive of the project and that the City will make every effort to take this project and put in on the map. I'm thanking you in advance for a fine effort in getting the people of the area a plan that will be pleasing to generations to come. I approve of your efforts and trust you will be active in keeping with the Master Plan and its parks and much needed schools. Thank you for your time and consideration toward this fine project. Sincerely; Doreen M. Walsh Vice President fk/DAW . .: I: ,..’ I, ‘v a!!lai~I I ‘I v’ G Golden West Equity Properties, Inc. .--- . ..-.--. .._ _. . . ._.- . . .._. . ..__._______.. . _. _ ._... __ _ __._-_ -w 1949 SoA State College Blvd., Anaheim, California 92806 l (7l4) 937-0780 October 26,1987 CHAIRMAN Carlabad Planning Commission 1200 Elm St. Carlabad, Ca 92008 Re- PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB SUBJECT- INTEREST AND APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT During the past few years I've been following the progress of this proposed development and I want to express my support for this project. Its not often where so many inviduals,agencies and governmental groups invest much time and energy on such a project of this size that will in time undoubtly enhance the entire community. Besides the list of amenities, parks, and the much needed school and public improvements the job opportunities and economic gains for this community is a definite pluse. I urge the Commission and the City Council to move forward with the approval of this project and encourage them to support this development and its benefits to the North San Diego County. I thank you for your continued interest in making the quality of life in this area a place where people will benefit by the careful planning of those who worked hard at making it a success. Very truly yours Sr.l&roject Manager rm/RJW October 24, 1987 PACIFSC RIM COUNTRY CLUB AND RESORT 7707 El Camino Real Carlsbad, CA. 92009 ATTENTION: Mr. Larry Clemens Dear Larry: I wish to take thi 8 opportunity to thank you for your very informative presentation held at The Carlsbad Safety Center a few months ago, and also for your time spent answering questions and helping some of our residents understand how HP1 will affect Spinnaker Hill. Our Homeowners Group is an unofficial organization, made up of volunteers, who deal primarily with internal affairs within Spinnaker Hill. My husband Merrill and I are in favor of the HP1 Master Plan, as are most of our friends and neighbors. We wish you the beet of luck. Carlsbad, Ca, 92009 George Kinney, REALTOR@ & Associates I Planning Comi8sfon, Ciaty ot!!Carlsbad, 2875 Las Palms Drive Carl&ad, Ca. 92009 Gentlemen: ' As a Carl&ad property owner and businessman, I would like to request your favorable action on the Pacific Rim Cpuntry Club and Resort project, .which will be heard by you on November 4. I have had several opportunities to review this project, and I. sincerely believe that it represents the type of developmeht that is right for Carl&ad. The successful growth.management plan that has been imple- mented by Carlsbad requires quality development with facilities being provided along with the residential areas. Not only will this project provide significant benefits in the area of public facilities such as traffic circulation, parks, schools, churches, but it will provide a first-class residential area and a world-class resort in keeping with the image that Carl&ad should present as the crown.jewel of North San Diego County. As a REALTOR I am keenly aware of the domino effect that high caliber development has on the surrounding areas and Pacific Rim will benefit the whole community. I urge your support and hoptGthat this project ~$1 get under way rapidly. Sincerely, 'I I ‘.- . ‘I - .,. . !J hi-;:;. J! Iii ’ f-- /.jgQ7:‘;, ,.,, t’@r’ 2 2,198.? . . . . Fmew Ewerprhrr FurowRdton l!aKuc syndkatbn FIlrwr Pmpaty hhne#emmc Fi~~nciaf Ma\lap !kwke VSF CcnsnhfnR Servke AfkKDHfgllS Professional Real Estde Services OCT i’ 8 1887 Tot Carlsbad city Cumcil carlbad Planning cannission In recent years I have seldan taken the tfme to address the Council/Plan- ning Cannission regarding a Carlsbad project. I now Ar would like to sincerely indicate a VERY STKX SUPPORT KSITICN for the Runt - Brother’s Pacific Rim Project. I can also state that innunerable contacts and friends in this area and through cut the cunnmity are almost without ewption in support of approval. ’ I’m sure you are alre&y awar of the msny reasons justifying apprwal but followitig are a few of khk ones that determined my decision? The Alga/Poinsettia help to the current and fnc+&sing traffic problem in the area. A solution to the lagoon which is and has been visually and “arnnatically” a negative. Providing increased amenities in the form of park; CMf course, tennis and swim club, restaurants ‘etc. fulfilling both a public and private need. The favorable 3qxkt of a rmjor first class resort creating much needed arployme!rk, tax revenue, and tourist dollars for the city. . - 7700 El Carnina Red, Suite O200. Cdrbd CalIfi~mir 92d(w * Security Pa&k brnk Bld& l 619/438-ISJS . . .i . * : ! ‘i&Y . . . . , Eliminating the major disadvantages of the probable alternative of piece meal non master planned development . A variety of qwUty housing and custan lots. I have frankly scznetlmes disagreed with the apparent thinking of the caunCil/Planning Camission that quality equates with low density. Rather qmlity equates with good design and can be either low or high density. In Pacific Rim however you have the benefit of both relatively low density and outstanding design. Over the past mmy years the city has been quite dmanding regamling this project and rightfully so. lb my awmness there has been an above average attenpt by the Hunt organization to accanodate these requests and concerns and at the present time propose an overall development that will gefinitely provide benefit and pride to both the city and . the CmrNunity. No project is perfect and never will there be unankms agrwmnt zmng our varied residents. I C&I not however thMc of any RATICSIU reason w Pacific R.im should be further delayed. t ! I truly hope and encoumge appzwal at the upcming hearings. . ; \ . . Palmer Couke Design Company ~Hllltlubwd~*~~~~.*Gkndo,ftalb~ll*~~~5)44 Cctober 19, 1987 MayorClauckLewisandCmncilmmbers City of Carl&ad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbd, California 92008 It is my understanding that in Decmdzr the Carl&ad City Ccuncilmy be amsidering the Pacific Rim Country Club 61 Resort pruposal planned by Hunt Properties, Inc. I would urge you to give your support to this important project, which muld yield a nmber of significant benefits to the City of Carl&ad and its residents. As yuu know, I am directly involved in me of these potential benefits--the 18-holegolf clroursetobedesignedbyPalmerCourseDesignCarpany. This chaq$onship @f murse, which will be developed in the first phase of the Pacific Rim project's amstructionr will be designed to carefully preserve the natural hillsides and integrate the grwves of Eucalyptus trees cn ths site, and will also enhance and protect the natural envirorment of the lagcon. Rot only will this course be a challenge to professionals, but it will also be an amenity for local area golfers and existing and future Carl&ad redidents to enjoy. The Pacific Rim proposal represents a well-balanced,~master-planned cmrnunity integrated with a world-class destination resort. The project is highly sensitive fmn an envirmnental and planning perspective and will undoubtedly be a ham to the Carl&ad mmnmity, as well as to the greater North San Diq County region. I e~lmura A you to wt,te in favcr of this important propsoal. i7 MIkerely, :' 4, : ArmldPalmr r. o.ehts2~ vaungrnan,knn~*is8~~4i~1551.rnt PWlOmaBOS1022*pmbVUhONdl.FhhhM#Q~WM(1265-~ chD-PlDm-~taKt~ ctwmmd. ohb 44114 •2lw222-1zm~ wm 2w.(44 , . .wb Palmer Course Design Company Ocbber 19, 1987 . Mr. Michael Holaniller DirectorofPlanning City of Carl&ad 2075 Las Pahas Drive Carl&ad, CA 92009-4859 Dear Mr. Holzmiller: On No&r 4, the Carl&ad Planning carmission will conduct a public hearing on the Pacific Rim Country Club & Resort project proposed by Hunt Properties, Inc. (RPI). As the designer for the charcpionship golf anmse planned for the first phase of the develgment, I wanted to express my strong suprt for the project and enanmge your positive mtion. In addition, I wanted to provide you with my professional perspective on the golf course relative to the facilities proposed to support its operation. I am referring specifically to the golf clubhouse, which will house a pro shop, a shower and locker roanr dining, lounge and other facilities needed to acxxmmda te guests and others using the qDlf amrse. Based on ~'professicmalexperience in the design and developnentof "first-class" @f courses and support facilities, I feel that the HP1 clubhouse design is required to acocmmda te the nunber of guests and course users typically generated by a golf course of this type and stature. Given these facts, Iwouldurgeyouto support the proposedclubhouse as ilesigned. The @f clubhouse at Pacific Rim will be very striking architecturally and the natural landscaping surrounding it will integrate the facility with its lagoon setting. Iwculdencourageyuuto reammd approval of the Pacific Rim Country Club & Resort project along with the proposed golf course and its support facilities. If you should have any specific questions about the golf coursedesignortheclubhouse, please feel free to tactme. Arnold Palmer P. o.Em as* v~~arn.Polm~~1ww*4lEfw7-ml FWlUlk#bm1~*~VdOtWCh,Fb#khsgt-Bll40203.~ rho Edluoa kn-!Mm 1300 l clowlmd. al40 u114 l P1w2z-1m* Idmtm-144 ‘. 1 I .* . *“&+ Palmer Course Design Company ~HI1IC(ubmd~~~~~~.*Ohnde.~Jnll*~/~~4 Oct&er 19, 1987 ChaixwcmnMaryMarcus SCcmissioners Plannin9CQlnlissiotl City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, California 92008 DearChaimanan Marcus and Ccmnissioners: It is my understanding that on November 4 the Carl&ad Planning Cmnission will be considering the Pacific Rim Country Club & Resort pmposal planned by Hunt Pmperties, Inc. I would urge yuu to give your fllpport to this iqortant project, which muld yield a nunber of significant benefits to the City of Carl&ad and its residents. As you knm, I am directly involved in cme of these potential benefits--the 18-holegolf cmrsetobe designedbyPalmerCourseDesignGmpany. This championship golf course, which will be developed in the first phase of the Pacific Rim project's construction, will be designed to carefully preserve the natural hillsides and integrate the groves of Rucalyptus~trees an the site, and will also enhance and protect the natural euviroment of the lagoon. Not only will this course be a challenge to professionals, but it will also be an amenity for local area golfers and existing and future Carl&ad kesidents to enjoy. The Pacific Rim proposal represents a well-balanced, master-planned ammmity integrated with a world-class destination resort. The project is highly sensitive fm an envi rommtal and planning perspective and will undoubtedly be a boon to the Carl&ad cumnmity, as well as to the greater North San Dingo County region. I encou in favor of this important pmpscml. ..fl t ’ I Sikere ,! ; /LJtGb Arnold-Palmer P. o.mm ap. Yomgmvm.Ponn~ll t589@*41~w.?751 poI(UfbfJOR103!3.pI*lhWXhlbdkFbfid@SOB2~00412@5-39(10 OmEtbkmRaa-IWkl3W.Umlmd. ohb441~4.21lJm2~12(10~ tolNmo.144 . ‘\ 2 \ ,‘bJ BRUCE M. JORDAN, D.D.S., INC. FAMILY DENTISTRY I am a businessman and resident of Southwest Carlsbad. I also serve as President of the Carlsbad Boys and Girls Club, as a director of the Carlsbad Golf Association and as a member of the Batiquitos Lagoon Foundation. My home shares a common property line with Hunt Properties Inc. Obviously 1 have a keen interest about what happens in this area. I have watched with pride as our city and state government, local citizens and HP1 have worked together to create the current Pacific Rim Country Club and Resort Project. This project has definitely "improved with a8e" and I feel the time has come for it to proceed. I strongly urge you to support the project master plan at the November 4 planning commlsiion meeting. , Sincerely, Bruce M, Jordan, D.D.S. BMJ/chj 6120 PASEO DEL NORTE l CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92009 l (619) 438-0948 ALLEN D. WILLIAMS l 7652 Primavera Way l Carlsbad, California 92q (619,942-1844 July 14, 1987 Planning Department City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, California 92008 Dear Sirs, As a resident of Carlsbad I would like to applaud your effort to control the growth of the City and insure that adequate public facilities are built to match this growth. I have been following the Pacific Rim Development as they have strug- gled through the environmental hurdles associated with Batiquitos Lagoon. Their plan appears to have all the attributes of a controlled growth providing: . Open space for public facilities (park, school, churches) . Drainage facilities . Sewer facilities. I In addition the plan provides for citywide improvement where public facil- ity fees can be used for improved administration, a new library and improved waste water treatment. Batiquitos Lagoon will be improved with the fifteen to twenty million dollars in their plan. The stature of the resort and new houses should increase the value of surrounding dwellings. There will be a substantial contribution to the City of Carlsbad tax base from property tax, sales tax and transient occupancy tax, while there will be additional buying power in the stores of the community. Because of the advantages noted above and because the Pacific Rim Develop- ment is consistent with your plan for controlled community growth, I urge you to approve the Pacific Rim Development Plan. Sincerely, . c \ '.. Allen D. Williams (RADM, USN, Ret.) ADW/bp (tiW) 481.2711 943 Daisy Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 June28, 1987 ljr. Larry Clemens Paclflo Rim Project Manager’ . . . l HP1 Development Co. . 7707 El Camino Real Carlsbad, CA 92009 . Dear Mr. Clemens: I read with interest your May 1987 newsletter regarding the latest developments for the Pacific Rim project. As a resident of Spinnaker Hill, I am keenly interested in the Pacific Rim Country Club and Resort. As a former lifequard and competitive swimmer I would be very intereseted in your specific plans for the swimming and diving complex. I would like to 8ttend the next Swim Center Advisory Committee meeting. Could you please send me their meeting schedule for the remainder of this year? Your efforts to educate the public about this project are to be commended. You have expressed a willingness to work with the community and you have been sincere in all your efforts up to this time. I hope that your sincerity continues to be what sets this project apart from all the others in Southern California. You have a golden opportunity to provide a showcase community with superb recreational lacilities that will be the envy of many developers. I’m confident that you can make this dream a reality. Thanks for your consideration. Cordially, .- . . . . . . . . . _, I ..I i I I -;;.;l../_jiil’; / .*. . -. :‘ :’ ‘. .i. .: ;., ,,.-I :,” ; I’l.,\i’ ‘. -- - JW 3 o wn A A8SOCIATIu. WC. 8aaI88lrn 2sm Pi0 Plaa orive. P.O. 80x loos. cuhw, CIlifamir mom. ~619~ 729.t in4 ’ I \d. bee: Larry Clemens October 17, 1986 Mayor Mary Casler and Clty Counctl City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carl sbad, CA 92008 Subject: Pacfffc Rim Country Club and Resort Community Clty of Carlsbad Rear Mayor Caster and Members of the City Council: This past Tuesday evening, October 14, 1986, your honorable body considered the matter of the subject Pacfffc Rim community development plan to be permitted to move forward with the public hearfng proceed- ings In order to have an orderly project schedule. The undersigned attended the Council meeting from 6:00 p.m. until after 9:00 p.m. and due to the lateness of the hour, was unable to remain at the meeting fn order to make a presentation. Accordfngly, It it requested that this formal communicatjon to you today become a part of the official record of your proceedings of Tuesday nfght and more importantly, we trust that our posltfon will be consfdered the next time thfs matter is brought back to you. I In fts briefest fom, our presentation to you 1s to offer our proter- sional and personal opinion that the proposed Pacific Rim community development Is truly one of the outstanding development concepts to come forward sfnce the annexation of the beautiful La Costa community. We have been privileged to be a part of this community for some 30 years now and have enjoyed the benefits as a family and a member of the business community and all of the benefits which have accrued from the industry and Investment of all of the property owners and developers who have brought us to the level of community development we now enjoy. In order for the Pacific Rla developaent to move forward, it Is imperative that the City Council commence immediately with the publfc hearing proceedfngs so that there can be formal public presentations as to the merits of the proposed project. Ye are very confident that you will witness comaunfty-wide enthusiasm and support for this proposed development based primarily upon the fact that the developers . .& . l4 w :c : . % muunw l *auamma* id Mayor Mary Casler and City Council City of Carlsbad October 17, 1986 Page 2 have expended vast amounts of energy and expense to thoroughly evaluate all of the many aspects of this proposed development to insure that the project as now identified truly represents a totally "master planned" community that will attract the finest elements of residents, commerce, tourism, open space and recreation, and all of the other supporting enterprises. Pacific Rim has already engaged in dialogue with di'verse elements of our community seeking input to insure that important issues are addressed. In conclusion, we once again urge you to reconsider the positions YOU have taken in the past of continuing to withhold the orderly processing of this plan and permit the public to come to you and express their views, whatever they may be. The sooner the community can move to that teve? of dialogue, the.qufcker we can all get to what I belteve is our community goal of adding to the magnificence of our community and Pacific Rim will become one more element of our wealth of community pride and a strong sense of accomplishment that this community has become identified with. We will plan to contfnue to partlcfpate in th; affairs of this project as it moves forward and wijl be prepared to respond to any comments or questions you may have the next time this is on the Council agenda and you will permit public input. I JYK:prf ?I? #602 3CAL UN1UH No. 2080 Auauav llr la.1 A,.~AI, DCMAHC TIIC LhWCL ESCONblDO, CALIF.. ..v----?!?%?k%-i!. to 86 --, -- . City Council of Carlsbad Catlsbad, CA Dear Members of the Council: On behalf of the membership of Carpenters focal 2080, Escondido, we wish to address the situation concerni nq the Hunt’s Pacific Rim Project. Our concern is that this project will bring to North County badly needed schools, parks, road improvements and the restoration of Batiquitos Lagoon with the wildlife prescl-vc. We also acknowlege that this project will bring to the North County employment opportunities throughout the construction industry and the entire community. We believe that Hunt Properties has extended full cooperation through- out the duration of your plan approval process. Your approval of the Hunt Pacific Rim Master Plan would be in the best interest of all constituents concerned. ’ Qespectfully, vJ.P. Hook Recording Secretary Local Union 2080 2225 Barham Dr., Suite B Escondido, CA 92025 a 10-14-86 I! !l!he Carlsbad City Council: Please, 1-n all due respect, I find it appall?.nc that you can be so demanding, and yet so short-sj.ded 9n Vfmj.s-hzuldl~ngtt of the Pacific HilTI Project. Pirst, I think that we can all agree that everyone wants and needs the AaWquitos Lagoon restored. The fact that it Will re- InaTn a wildlIfe preserve is a feather jn our cap, Second, I belleve j.t 3.s obvious to all concerned that we could use not only the school and the park, but also the mad j.mproveqlents that collie vrl th just the first phase of the prc ject. Anyone who has to travel La Costa Avenue during peak hours can attest tc that problem. Runt Pzcpertles Inc. (Xt.P.1.) is to be commended for 3.t’~ perseverance throughout th3.s ordeal. They (M.Y.T.) have re- sponded favorably to’your every demand and delay. I feel that with so many benefits to be gajned immediately by the community and the future benefits of employment an& revenue dollars, you must, without delay approve this project. Thank-you, Respectfully Wesley E. Clifford Seaport Village ResTdent 7111 Mimosa Dr. CARLSBAD, CA 92008 .._ October 13, 1986 The Honorable Mary Casler and Members of the City Council City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue carlsbad, CA 92008 Dear Mayor Casler and Carlsbad City Council Members: I would like to express my rather stong feelings regarding the handling of the HP1 property at Batiquitos Lagoon by the City of Carlsbad. First and possibly foremost, the council has worked itself into a combatant attitude in the whole situation rather than trying to work reasonably with the people who must deal at the mercy of the city. One council member said in effect "We're not going to be pushed around by those Texas poker players." Second, we see pressure applied by the city attorney (as the council's spokesman) saying the agreement with the State is not what the State wants. This has been proven wrong. Further, he threatens condemnation as a rational approach. And, of course, in the interim the city has taken away consideration of the Hunt's master plan acceptance. These and several other things do not speak well for what should be an even-handed approach. Further, HP1 has made'concessions on density which is more than reasonable. They have a great plan with plenty of green belts, a park, a much needed school, a first class golf course and a fine hotel. Contrast this with what has been built across from Alta Mira on De1 Norte and you can see where & piece-meal approach to the use of the Hunt's land would lead us. Part of the problem now is the heady no growth movement which has now moved into the community. Let's be fair - this is a well planned community project worthy of consideration on its own merits and on the boards long before all this no-growth hysteria. I respectfully submit you should vote for approval of the HP1 master plan. Sincerely, Mr. &!t&s. John Pause 7305 Lily Place Carlsbad, CA 92008 . I ‘, l t :. .I . Allan 0. Kelly IMPACTGEOLOGY Post Office Box 1085 Carl&ad, Callfomlr 92008 Phone: 4384888 October 12, 1986. PACIFIC RIM COUNTRY CLUB. 7707 El Camino Real Carlsbad, Ca. 92008 Mr. Larry Clemens: I received your letter asking for support in connection with your problems with the City of Carlsbad---their demand that you give them title to the lagoon before they give their approval for your development, It seems to me and everyone I have talked to that it is a simple matter of going to escrow and all parties involved---HPI, the City Fish &Game, State Lands, Corp of Engineers etal. sign the names on the bottom line. I had a similar circumstance several years ago, soon after the people of California were conned into approving the Coastal Act in which gave the governor the power to appoint a commission with the power to write its own bylaws and constitution---including the setting of the boundaries of the coastal strip and the power to with- hold their approval of every development in that strip. This was plainly--inverse condemnation, legal blackmail, in which they held the economic power to prevent the use of real property while taxes went on until the land owner gave them the land they demanded, often without remuneration. At first, they offered to pay some small portion of,what the property was worth, stating flatly that they would not condem the property, as the Constitution requires, but now they demand half of one's property---as’in your case. If HP1 were allowed to develop the Batiquitos La oon as beautiful waterfrontproperty with a dredged harbor for sma f 1 boats and tidal water from the ocean, it would build out for a value of perhaps 60 to 80 million and provide homes for the thousands of people who are coming to California despite the fact that our state le' 1 . . . . . ha8 delegated its powers to govern,and make laws,to a Governor Appointed Commission, The unfair, unjust, and unconstitutional fact is that the people of all of California , were allowed to vote for a law that took away the property rights of those who happened to live in a narrow strip along the 800 mile coast line. Suppose we allow the Governor to appoint a few more commissions. I can think of a lot of possibilities. We wouldn’t need the legislatura Just rename them the HOUSE OF LORDS OF CALIFORNIA. I have been supprised over the years that there hasn’t been a class action suite to stop this delegation of powers and return the re- sponsibility to the ledgislature and the people. -29 Some seven or eight years ago, I went through the same procedure HP1 is going through now: I owned some 180 acres of lagoon prop- erty here on the Agua Hedionda Lagoon, part of it already dredged by the Gas Company right up to my property line. I had a potential of developing over 29,000 front feet of waterfront property and already had engineering plans for such development---when the new Coastal Commission got into the act. Their plan was to have the State Fish & Game Commission buy the land. They had some money and the right of condemnation, but they refused to condem. I had been trying to malce a joint venture with some big developer but none would take on the job with the Coastal Commission in the offing. I finally offered to sell for $10,000 an acre if they would condem, or take it under threat of condemnation so that I could re- invest the money without capital gains tax. TheJmade a return offer of $832,000 after a land appraisal by them, and a weasel-worded letter that my attorney said not to sign. I refused the offer. Several months later, I got in touch with their appraiser, a Mr. Brown of La Jolla. I asked him why he appraised so much of the waterfront property at only $100 per acre and he said. "Well, Mr. Kelly, there are at least 5 governmental agencies here in California that can prevent you from ever developing that property. He was right, Four years ago I got into a joint-venture-partnership-deal in which the4State Fish & Game demanded 200 acres of lagoon and wet and dry lans right up to El Camino Real---highway frontage property, for what? Nothing more than their approval. Their value, they acquire by de- manding that the City of Carlsbad, transfer the building units that were on this property (10 to 20 to the acre) to the adjoinin hill land ---which already has enough QMts to build out this hi1 f land tWat is so steep that half of it is in open space and can never be used for anything else. Over the years, I have built up a large file on this subject, having even written to the Supreme Court of the United States about this refusal of State Commissions to condem real property for public use, but all I got was a form letter saying my remedy was to go up through the Courts first---. The Rose Bird Court? Under this remedy, the Constitution of the United States is nearly worthless. What is needed is State laws that will forbid the delegation of power to appointed commissions ---and another law reventing attorneys from writing laws and ordinances that they E: now are unconstitutional. I don't know if all this local history will be of any use to HP1 but I fee-lA&~~..u! A copy to the City. - Mayor Mary Casler City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 3974 Park or-&e Carlsbad, CA 92008 10 October 1986 Oear Mary, I am very concerned about the damage that may be occurrtng to the long term well-being of Carlsbad. The preoccupation toward the demands of the very vocal no-growth proponents has dominated the Council’s recent decisions. I think the time has come for some consideration for “the rest of us.” As (I result of the Land Use Review, many changes were made to tighten up the city’s General Plan regarding density, open space and implementation of plans for facflitfes including recreational areas. Those changes were heavily influenced within the Review Committee and at the hearings before the Planning Commission and Council by the vocal minority whose opinions prevailed, and in my opinion by doing so subverted the intent and effectiveness of the review process. . I believe the no-growth component has made fits point. Now it is time to back away from the emotlonel hue snd cy and examine the long range Implications of recent Council policy, perticularly with respect to the Pacific Rim project. Loss of the mitigation program to enhance Batfquitos Lagoon would bee disaster. The current stalemate with HPI making that loss o possibility must be resolved immediately. Your Planning Ofrector has stated numerous times that large muster planned communities afford significant benefits in terms of quality development and the opportunity to negotiate for amenities that piecemeal development doesn’t offer. If HPI were to liquidate its holdings among several owneis, major planning tools would be lost along with the prospect for an attractive, cohesive end well planned community on our- southern border. - . PMayor Mary Casler ‘L’ ” Page 2 Carlsbad has built an envfable foundation of economic vfabflfty then&s to past wise decisions. That foundation must not be undermined by short- sighted decisfons in the future. Commercial and industrial elements of the community will suffer unless appropriate housing is available to their workers at all income levels. Residents will continue to go elsewhere for their cultural and recreational needs if prohibitive restraints are put on quality development that can support those needs. I urge you to resume the hearings on the Pacl f ic Rim project and to proceed in good faith with the long-term welfare of the ENTIRE community as your goal. Please remember that you represent not only your immediate circle of supporters, but also the “rest of us” who also have dreams for an attractive, progressive and prosperous city. St ncerel y, Claudia H. Stebelski Copies to: Mr. Richard Chick ’ Ms. Ann ,Kulchin Mr. Bud Lewis Mr. Mark Pettlne . G 0 K (I) George Kinney, REALTOR@’ & Associates ..I’. - ----__, 61 ut 0 ti’l i,. L.88 I . I.,, ccl'-i:j J 'I I'~[;::~~@ y I 111 IOCT, [i‘:o .= 29!% MADISON STREET SUITE 101 CARLSBAD. CA 92WtI . . ,..a- (61’)) 7298951 October 9, 1986 Carlsbad Cit,v Council-members 1000 Elm fi*efju& Carlsbad, Ca. '92uJG Subject: Pacific Rim Project It is my understanding that the State Lands Corrmitsion and Pacific Rim have reached a satisfactory agreement on eventual transfer of lagoon ownership of the Batiquitos Lagoon property. On this basis, as a Carlsbad property owner and local. business man, I respectfully urge the Council to accept this agreement and to move ahead with the approval process, and not depending on what.has been termed a questionable legal opinion to defer the normal procedures. I strongly believe that Carlsbad needs more quality development such as the Pacific Rim project and less of the "stacked flats" and high density PUD types which we have been getting, and ask that your actions will show encouragement to those who are trying to improve the quality of.life in Carlsbadb . i#m faAPHcs SoFMcsRi f ._. li.ij * . : 5. * ‘ l’.,.L:; ; ; ..: . - -_ September 23, 1986 .SEF’, 2. .5. =, HPI Development Co. 7707 El Camino Real Carlsbad, CA 92008 As a concerned member of this community, I thought this comic strip was sadly appropriate for the current difficulties you are suffering from our city council. It is unfortunate that its members fail to see the multiple advantages of your proposal. I would like to see that school built as soon as possible, since my daughter has just entered kindergarten. With this council, we will be lucky if it is completed by her 6th grade graduation. I also think the improvements of La Costa and the extension of Alga Road far outweighs the increase in housing. Isn’t that what they have been complaining about all these years? Traffic! Congestion! Good luck and please don’t stop fighting. I wish there was something I could do to help move it along. Best wishes, I Debbie Buuck 7103 Columbine Dr. Carlsbad, CA 92008 Seaport Community 2976 CARLSBAD BLVD. CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA 92008 Phone: (619) 729-3131 (619) 434-3157 August 29, 1986 Carlsbad Planning Commissioners 1200 Elm St. Carlsbad, CA 92008 Dear Commissioners: Though unable to attend your meeting on Wednesday September 3rd due to circumstance, I wish to express my total support of the Pacific Rim project, as presented by Mr. Larry Clemens. The subject project has been master planned by some of the finest experts available. I feel, because of it's size and,complexity, the project has been receiving some uninformed critcism which has been applied with a well meaning, but nonetheless sophomoric zeal. We have an area of scattered trash dumping, erosion, nests of illegal aliens and the like. We can have a well planned and managed area we all can enjoy. I again urge you to see the far reaching, positive impact of this project, and give it your total and unequivocated support. Thank you, S. W. Densham General Partner, Carlsbad resident SWD:dw cc: Larry Clemens . . . . . II I.. *-- .-- -. . w Wlr. ~l.IVl.‘..,.. L” -1 >...I ‘I iii ) I I Eli ,~~~~~ i;z,i‘ ~.. i , j .:. lr . * SE?, 4 ta ’ . . , ‘d STANLEY D. PROWSE ATTORNEV AT LAW GRAHAM INTLRNATIONAL PLAZA P,,, PACOMAR AIRPORT ROAD. SUlft 330 CARLSBAD. CALIFORNIA 98008-4815 w3.lSl Pal-9700 . g\; -- ‘:‘zr- 1 : . .---- ! -;jp$q-.. [il ; :.j .4 /s(’ - <>’ . ;/La p AUC f 8 = August 15, 1986 Larry Clemens HP1 Developwnt Canpany 7707 El Cadno Real cZl&bi9d, CA 92008 Dear hrry: Thank you for taking the time to chat with me Tuesday morning about the project and Carlsbad politics. I enjoyed our conversation and hope that all those black clouds produce no more than a shower or two. The project is a winner, and I wish you every successe 'Look forward to seeing you.again soon. . ’ ! ‘w-L9 . . Thomas R. Betz 3240 Donna Drive Carlsbad, CA. 92008 . August 3, 1986 AUG i!e.=. , 1 ,--- -'Hayor Mary Caaler 9 City Hall Carlsbad, CA. 92008 Dear Mayor Casler: Having followed the recent controversy over the “Slow * Growth” and “Managed Growth” proposals, I offer the following comments regarding this issue. 2’ ,J/ / As a long time resident, I would like to see Carlsbad grow in an orderly fashion, unrestricted by initiatives. We all want a city we can be proud of and through proper city planning and management we will have that. The proponents of the arbitrary slow growth initiative do not speak for all the citizens of Carlsbad as they claim, but rather seem to be a group bent more .’ on disrupting the orderly process and misleading the citizens than on contributing to a properly planned community. . I personally view Carlsbad as a gem in a semi-rough stage and believe it deserves to be “polished” into the beautifully planned coastal city it is capable of becoming. The slow growth initiative fails to offer that possibility. Managed growth does make that goal possible Eind is something we should all expect of any city government, particularly from one as fine as Carlsbad’s. As a final note, I would like to add’that the opportunity to have master.planned communities such as the Pacific Rim and Samis Projects are more than most cities can dare to dream of. We should not allow disruptive influences to distract the city from incorporating such quality developments into the community. I appreciate your taking the time to read my letter as well as your dedicated efforts.and service in behalf of the City of Carlsbad. ‘Thomas R. Detz cc: Councilman Lewis Councilwoman Kulchin * Councilman Chick .i Councilman Pettine I . : ._. I RANCH ac8,sA 7740 El Camlno Real, Ste. l-l, La @q&@J92009 ------ - REALTY July 29, 1986 @mr~#a& . . . _ a---. Mr. Larry Clemens, Vice Preffdent Pacific Rim Country Club & Resort 7707 El Camino Real Carlsbad, CA 92008 Bear Mr. Clemens, Thank you for taking time to share the details of the Pacific Rim project with me. I was very pleased with the plan and look forward to your groundbreaking. If more of the neighbors and citizens would take a look at the proposal there would certainly be less opposition to this quality development. I wish you every success in obtaining your city approvals. If, in the meanwhile, I may assist you in any way please contact me at your convenience. Eric L. Waite, Jr./Broker RANCH & SEA REALTY ELWdm Land & Subdivision Department -- l m . OFirstNaticmhmk May 21, 1986 a L 401 WEST A STREti r POST OFFICE Box 81325 SAN DIEGO. CALIFORNIA 92138-I 325 MA) : 8 R p+ ocek, (419) 233-5588 TELEX 752831 MAY 2 8 I986 (c7pi I c13$- %’ RECEIVED ’ Mr. Larry Clemens Pacific Rim Project Manager c/o HP1 Development Company 7707 El Camfno Real Carlsbad, CA 92008 Dear Larry: Thank you for hosting the meeting last Monday regarding your plans for development. I can safely say that the majority of Seaport residents are looking forward to your development, as we feel we will be able to share in what will truly be the most significant and prestigious development in Carlsbad. I appreciate your assurances that your Company will do what is necessary to preserve our views and the overall value of our property. Please feel free to call me If I can be of any assistance in the future. Sincerely, Thomas D. Struble Vice President TDS:ljl ! I . /.’ ! . ,:. ) *J , 9 . 1.; . b ‘,.I , .! PArT'cTf? PlM: 4 Positive Contribution to %rlnh~I I have heard a lot about the negative aspects of the Yncific.Yim planned community,but not much about the projects* merit?. Vy research h?n unoovcrecl the followinrf facts. Whe hotel :\lorlo will contributa over one mj I.l.iort do77:t~: :!nnu;tlly to the city or flnrIahnd throuqh room taxes. Another l/3 1111 Il.?on dallurs will be tterived from property taxer;. *%velopment end msintainance of the projec-t will create over 2,500 new jobs. *r\ presti?iou:: master planned community like thi.:: one wjll do much 5n ;~tt,r-~cl,ir~r< I;tte hiqh c:Lliber twr*::c~n:~l rwc(~:::::lr*.v I,(. rn*~Itr~ JWomar Qenearch Fnrk a leader in emerP;inq technology. *This project will brinq a much neded pnrk awl zchoo7 kr? tI1.i:: qu:-ldrant. Thi:r is r;omething no o,the.r dcvclo~~er* }]:I:: bc!c!tl cor~cc~'r~~cI with, *Iastly, upon complete buildout over 53”!, of the 1,000 acre project . will remain open ,arca. This could only he achieved in :I m:'1:;tcr planned I community. If this land were to be developed by a pa-tchwork of smaller developers it would look like what we have now,one project butting up to the next with nary a qreenbelt. Continued development is a way of life in our beautiful city. Ve can either bury our heads in the oand and refuse to :~cczcpt it, or we can support well planned projects th.3-t make.positivc con- tributions to our community. . 7109 !lea~en Tl. Carlsbnd, CA. .- WE, THE RESIDENTS OF SPINNAKER HILL, ARE OPPOSED TO OPENINZ DAISY AVENJE-TO THROUGH VEHICUIAR TRAFFIC. WE DO NOT UANl’ ANY HORE TRAFFIC ON THIS ALREADY HEAVILY TRAVELED RESIDENTIAL STREET. WE DO SUPPORT THE H.P. I. (HUNT PROPERTIES INC.) PROPOSAL TO OPEN MISY AVENUE TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY. .___ ._ ..-. -: .. o/(3 /?.I& . yff&b&??- r /z,& ~yg&?!?q~, __,_ ,____,_- e44 iz&-mifi ‘ii44 ‘i’ ‘3 r- &&.r 6L( c t- / 2 3 Y 5 G 7 % 4 lb 0 13 I Y rk -. 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