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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-11-12; Planning Commission; Minutes. ‘, t, c;. ,s. ., f‘ ? MINUTES Meeting of: PLANNING COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m. Date of Meeting: November 12, 1987 2"d . Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers \ COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Marcus called the Meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Marcus. ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Marcus, Commissioners Hall, Holmes, McBane, McFadden, Schlehuber, and Schramm Staff Members Present: Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director Mike Howes, Senior Planner Gary Wayne, Senior Planner Bobbie Hoder, Senior Management Analyst Phil Carter, Senior Management Analyst Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer Clyde Wickham, Associate Civil Engineer PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES: Chairman Marcus reviewed the Planning Commission procedures on the overhead for the benefit of the audience. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THE AGENDA: There were no comments from the audience. Commissioner McFadden arrived at 6:04 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 2) GPA/LU 87-4/LCPA 87-3(LCPA 87-23) CITY OF CARLSBAD (LAUREL TREE) - Request for a General Plan Amendment from RlM (O-4 du/ac) to 0 (Professional and Related) for a 9.2 acre site located south of Palomar Airport Road along the future southerly College Avenue extension in the Local Facilities Management Zone 5. Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the site is basically isolated from the surrounding area by topography and is located in a small valley south of Palomar Airport Road. There are planned industrial uses along Palomar Airport Road north and residential uses south from the proposed College Avenue extension. The area is buffered from adjacent residential areas by steep slopes. The reason that staff is requesting a change in this General Plan Amendment from RLM to Office is that the 0 designation provides a buffer from the planned industrial uses to the north and residential uses to the south. In addition, the office uses would have less impact by noise from the future traffic on College Avenue. In addition, the LFMP for Zone 5 considered this site not as residential but included it in all calculations as non-residential uses for determination of public facilities. At the present time, this site is zoned L-C (Limited Control). Limited Control is basically a holding zone. Staff is not proposing that this zone be changed until the exact alignment of College Avenue through this area has been determined and development plans have been submitted. This area is also within the airport influence and, therefore, any ‘. ,. ‘i , P -I MINUTES \ 2 November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 2 COMMISSIONERS development would require a SDP so that site plans may be assessed in advance of actual development. Based on the fact that office uses would provide transition from planned industrial to residential to the south and since there are topographic buffers in the area, staff is recommending approval of the requested GPA and LCPA. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Jack Henthorn, 2892 Jefferson Street, Carlsbad, representing the applicant, Laurel Tree Investments, addressed the Commission and stated that they wish to go on record in support of the staff recommendation. Graham Frazier, Frazier Engineering, representing Sudan Interior Mission, addressed the Commission and stated that they own property on the hill above the site and do not agree with the location of the proposed College Avenue extension since it will disturb the planned development of the missionary home. He would like an opportunity to work with staff on the placement of College Avenue and, with some flexibility, could support the staff recommendation. Commissioner Holmes requested Mr. Frazier to point out the property he is representing on the overhead map. Mr. Frazier responded and stated that although the property is 12 acres, not much is buildable due to the hilly terrain. Mr. Henthorn returned to the podium and stated that he had met with Mr. Frazier earlier in the day to discuss the College alignment and is willing to work with him but feels these issues would be better addressed at the time of development. Commissioner Marcus requested a response from staff. Gary Wayne replied that staff agrees with what has been said. They do not recommend a zone change at this time so that discussions can continue. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to recommend approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director and adopt Resolution Nos. 2682 and 2697 recommending approval of GPA/LU 87-4/LCPA 87-3 (LCPA 87-23), based on the findings contained therein. 3) GPAjLU 87-2/ZC 87-4 CITY OF CARLSBAD - (HOSP GROVE) - General Plan Amendment and Zone Change from RMH residential land use designations and P-C zoning to open space land use and zoning designations. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the background of the request and stated that on March 3, 1987 a ballot measure was approved by the citizens of Carlsbad to have the City acquire approximately 50 acres of Hosp Grove. As such, that land now is being formally proposed as open space. Previous to the ballot measure, several parcels within the Hosp Grove Master Plan area had been approved for office and commercial uses. Subsequently, when the ballot item was approved by the City Council, the office and commercial land use designations were rescinded. This Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 3 COMMISSIONERS General Plan Amendment merely acts to "clean up" the designations on the general plan and zone maps so that the entire 50 acres is shown as open space. This GPA is exempt from environmental review under CEQA, Section 15325. Staff recommends approval. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Girard Anear, 1728 Calavo Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he is a member of the citizen's group to retain Hosp Grove. Mr. Anear asked the Planning Commission not to down zone Hosp Grove to open space since he feels that it would be more economically feasible to the City of Carlsbad to lease the property to help pay for its purchase, rather than trying to fund the purchase with 7% bonds. This group is attempting to have this proposal placed on an upcoming ballot. He questioned whether Commissioner McBane, who lives near Hosp Grove, could render an unbiased vote. Dan Hammer, 4015 Isle Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he supports the staff recommendation and is not in favor of the proposal to put a commercial development for Hosp Grove on the ballot. Cindy Ward, 937 Begonia Court, addressed the Commission and stated that she supports the staff recommendation to designate Hosp Grove as open space. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney, replied to the conflict of interest charge directed at Commissioner McBane and stated that conflict of interest would only apply if there is an economic interest involved. The property cannot be treated differently than any other property. Commissioner McBane stated that he has no economic interest in Hosp Grove and can express an unbiased decision. Commissioner Schlehuber stated that he is distressed by the recent proposal for a ballot initiative. He is reluctant to vote on this measure and would like to see the Commission wait six months to take action. Commissioner Holmes feels the City has received a mandate from the voters to zone Hosp Grove as open space. If a future change occurs, remedial action can be taken at that time. Commissioners McFadden and McBane concur. Commissioner Marcus agrees with Commissioner Schlehuber. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt Resolution Nos. 2684 and 2685 recommending approval of GPA/LU 87-2/ZC 87-4. 4) GPA/LU 87-3/LCPA 87-l (LCPA 87-2G)/ZC 87-3 CITY OF CARLSBAD - CHINQUAPIN - Proposed General Plan Amendment, Local Coastal Plan Amendment, and Zone Change affecting Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 4 15 parcels surrounded by Chinquapin Avenue, Adams Street, and Harrison Street in Local Facilities Management Plan Zone 1. Mike Howes, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the proposed General Plan Amendment, Local Coastal Plan Amendment, and Zone Change will affect 15 parcels surrounded by Chinquapin Avenue, Adams Street, and Harrison Street. The 15 parcels affected by the proposed changes have a combined area of approximately 7.85 acres. Most of the parcels are vacant or occupied by older single family homes. The purpose of the proposed action is to bring the General Plan, Local Coastal Plan, and Zoning designations into conformance on these properties. All of the properties are currently zoned R-1-7500, single family residential, 7500 sq. ft. minimum lot size. The Local Coastal Plan and General Plan designate these parcels as RMH, 8-15 du/ac; RM 4-8 du/ac; and RLM O-4 du/ac. Neither the RM or RMH designations are compatible with the R-1-7500 zoning. In addition, some parcels have different General Plan and Local Coastal Plan designations. This has caused confusion in the past as to the development potential of these lots. Staff is recommending that all of the lots except those fronting on Adams Street be designated RM, Residential Medium 4-8 dujac and be rezoned to RD-M-Q, Residential Density Multiple with a Q overlay. The lots along Adams Street should keep their existing R-1-7500 zoning and have their General Plan and Local Coastal Plan designations become RLM, Residential Low-Medium O-4 dujac. This area was previously discussed at the Planning Commission meetings of July 30 and August 13, 1986. At that time, a number of General Plan Amendments, Local Coastal Plan Amendments, and Zone Changes were being considered to bring these documents into conformance. Most of the adjacent residents at that time felt the property should be designated RLM O-4 du/ac. However, most of the property owners affected believed the existing designation of RMH 8-15 du/ac should be maintained. One of the major concerns expressed by adjacent residents was potential traffic impacts and compatibility with existing single family residences if the property was developed with multi-family units. The Planning Commission voted to retain R-1-7500 zoning and redesignate this area as RLM O-4 du/ac. However, on December 22, 1986 due to the controversy surrounding traffic issues, the City Council continued this item to allow for the preparation of a traffic report. Staff recommends approval since the proposed changes and development allowed by them would have less effect on public facilities in Zone 1 than would the existing land use designations on the property. The overall impact of the proposed changes will be to lower the potential number of units in this area by approximately 30%. Chairman Marcus requested that the record show that the Commission has received numerous letters against this item. Commissioner Hall inquired about the designation of lots south of 'Harrison. Mike Howes replied that those lots are zoned RM. Commissioner McFadden inquired about EdtdS Locust Street. Mike Howes replied that the Assessor's Parcel Map shows l&%5 Locust Street as a "paper street" since it has never been developed. ‘* .’ ” ,( P. 7 MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 5 COMMISSIONERS John McCoy, 3995 Syme Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that his company built the homes adjacent to Syme Drive. He feels that the property along Adams should be retained as R-1-7500 but the property on Harrison should be zoned with a higher density. Jane Oldham, 1015 Chinquapin, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she has lived at her present location for 45 years. She has always been led to believe that her property was zoned for multiples at 35-50 du/ac. In March 1986 she was told that her property had been down zoned to 8-15 du/ac. She cited the recent Supreme Court ruling which gives a property owner the right to develop his property according to adjacent property. She strongly objects to staff's recommendation. Harold Shivers, 1065 Chinquapin, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he realizes the object of the down zoning is to slow growth. His lot is Parcel 3 on the south side of Chinquapin. On the north side of Chinquapin the density is 30 du/ac (Adams Street Apartments) and on the west 26 du/ac (Lime Grove Apartments). The Woodridge Apartments have 44 du/ac and directly across from them is the Senior Citizens Complex with a density of approximately 50 du/ac. He feels that the interests of the long-time property owners have been passed over and strongly requests the Commission to consider a density of 8-15 du/ac in this area. Gerri Pete Alexander, Box 1396, Borrego Springs, CA 92004, addressed the Commission and stated that her property will be severely affected by the change. She agrees with Mrs. Oldham and Mr. Shivers and cited the density of surrounding parcels and units. She doesn't feel it is fair to down zone her property to 4-8 du/ac when a development across the street is now being built at either RMH (8-15 du/ac) or RH (20-23 du/ac). She requested the Commission to consider retaining a density of at least 8-15 du/ac. Barbara Mead, 4140 Adams Street, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she represents the homeowners living along Adams. They support the staff recommendation and feel that the new zoning would create a buffer between the existing high density and single family. She thinks the staff recommendation is a good compromise since the streets will not handle much more traffic. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Commissioner Schlehuber stated that he can understand both sides of the conflict. There doesn't seem to be any objection to R-l along Adams Street. However, he thinks it is a drastic step down from 36 du/ac to 4-8 du/ac. Commissioner McFadden stated that she would like to see the entire area zoned R-l. However, she does hear the owner's concerns. She feels that current parking is inadequate and circulation is also a problem. Retaining the high density will only accelerate the problem. She supports the staff recommendation. Commissioner Holmes does not feel that 8-15 zoning along side R-l is good planning. He likes the transition plan and can support the staff recommendation. ‘. > * ‘I . P ? MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 6 . COMMISSIONERS \ Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to recommend approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director and adopt Resolution Nos. 2686, 2687, and 2688 recommending approval of GPA/LU 87-3/LCPA 87-l (LCPA 87-2G)/ ZC 87-3 per staff's recommendation to the City Council based on the findings contained therein. 5) GPA/LU 87-S/LCPA 87-6 (LCPA 87-2C) - CITY OF CARLSBAD - Request to amend the General Plan Land Use Map designation for the Savage property located at the southerly end of Batiquitos Lane from RMH and OS to RM and OS, a Local Coastal Program (LCP) Amendment to change the land use map designation for the Lyman property located between the Savage property and the Spinnaker Hills development from RM to RLM, and to change the LCP text discussion. Gary Wayne, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that this item was initially discussed by the Planning Commission on July 30, 1986. It was brought before the Planning Cemmission as a consequence of staff's response to the Land Use Committee's recommendation to identify and modify all inappropriate land uses in Carlsbad. The action was also coordinated with the City's effort last year to develop consistency between its General Plan and LCP. The Planning Commission continued the item several times last year to allow the property owner time to submit evidence supporting his contention that the RMH designation was appropriate for the site. The continuance made it necessary for the other proposed LCP and General Plan Amendments to move forward without resolution of the land use issues on the Savage/Lyman properties. During the past year, Mr. Savage submitted several conceptual plans for staff review to prew~ his cent&ion that RMH is the proper designation for his property. Staff has not been persuaded that the RMH designation is appropriate since: (1) medium high density is not generally compatible with the surrounding lower densities; (2) the site's physical constraints (slopes, view corridor, public access, and wetlands) require that development at any density be designed sensitively; (3) higher d ensity development has greater environmental impacts than lower density development in terms of demand for public facilities/services, traffic generation, degradation of air quality, and increased noise; and (4) there is a major concern with future traffic impacts in the area of the proposed amendment since existing plus committed development will cause the Poinsettia Lane/I-S interchange to fail to meet the adopted performance standards imposed by the City's Growth Management Ordinance, even with projected improvements to the interchange. Staff recommends approval to establish consistency between the City's General Plan and the LCP. Commissioner Holmes inquired how many total acres were comprised in the two parcels of land being discussed. Gary Wayne replied that there were approximately 12 acres in the Lyman property and approximately 30 acres in the Savage property. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Cindy Ward, 927 Begonia Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she lives in Spinnaker Hills. She : ‘i I f- 7 MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 7 COMMISSIONERS supports the staff recommendation and thinks it is a very good move. Don Conners, 921 Begonia, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he lives adjacent to the Lyman property. He is very supportive of the staff proposal and also supports Mr. Savage's development but would like to see such a delicate area be zoned for low density. He presented a petition containing 448 signatures supporting the staff recommendation to down zone the Savage property from RMH and OS to RM and OS or lower, the Lyman project to an RLM designation or lower, and the same careful scrutiny given to these projects as was required of the HP1 Master Plan. Chairman Marcus asked for a count of those in attendance who support the staff recommendation. There were 15 persons who stood to be counted. Ramona Reasons of Encinitas addressed the Commission and stated that her home overlooks the Savage property. She would like to see it remain without any development at all. Joe Reed, 1008 Daisy, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that after years of runaway growth, he does not want to see the current plan to slow growth circumvented. He feels that once the door is opened, it cannot be closed. He supports the staff recommendation. William Savage Box 773, Ranch0 Santa Fe, addressed the Commission and stated that he has given extensive reference material to members of the Planning Commission prior to this meeting. He has no contention with the staff recommendation on the Lyman property. However, he does not agree with the down zoning of his own property. Mr. Savage stated that he has contacted the Coastal Commission and they are not requiring the down zoning. He feels he has been sucked into the HP1 density reduction and that the down zoning on three properties is being done to correct one faulty map. He strongly requested consideration to retain the RMH zoning. Commissioner Schlehuber asked Mr. Savage if he was aware that the Poinsettia interchange has already been identified as a projected failure point. Mr. Savage responded that he was aware but felt that there is another way to design the bridge expansion to eliminate failure by looping the entrance and exit ramps. Commissioner Schlehuber referred to the Zone 19 LFMP and inquired if Mr. Savage felt it was fair for the other property owners to absorb the entire density reduction. Gary Wayne responded that staff's calculation and Mr. Savage's calculation on allowable units differed. Mr. Savage replied that he was not defending the 322 unit situation at this meeting. Commissioner Holmes inquired how close Mr. Savage's project was to approval. Mr. Savage replied that the closest he has been to approval was submittal of a tentative map, which is the original cause of the problem being discussed at this meeting. He has been in negotiation with the State of California for approximately three years. Jana Regan, 1010 Daisy Court, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she agrees with staff and would even be in favor of more density reduction than is being recommended by staff. , ‘. ’ ‘? L . MINUTES November 12, 1 ,987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 8 COMMISSIONERS There being no other person to address the Commission, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among Commission members. Chairman Marcus inquired if this zone change will eliminate all development possibilities by Mr. Savage. Gary Wayne replied that a good opportunity for development still exists. Commissioner Hall requested staff to explain the open space. Gary Wayne replied that the original open space proposal in 1975 followed a hub park theme but that this philosophy has been changed, due in part to the Hillside ordinance and the Coastal Plan. Allowable density is based on gross acreage. Staff is recommending that the open space on Mr. Savage's property follow the road and wetlands boundary. Commissioner Schramm inquired if this plan gives Mr. Savage more access to useable land. Gary Wayne replied that the open space has been shifted to the road area and wetlands boundary to create more useable land but that the Hillside ordinance decreased development potential of a portion of the space. Commissioner Schlehuber stated that the staff recommendation is consistent with Zone 19, including the Hunt property, and that the letters from the Coastal Commission did not include traffic studies. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to recommend approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director and adopt Resolution Nos. 2700 and 2703 recommending approval of GPA/LU 87-S/LCPA 87-6 (87-2C) to the City Council based on the findings contained therein. RECESS The Planning Commission recessed at 7:45 p.m. and reconvened at 7:58 p.m. f-3) GPA/LU 87-1, ZC 87-2, SP-19(C), CT 87-3, LCPA 87-2 (LCPA 87-2F), LFMP 87-3(2) - AGRICULTURAL PRESERVE NO. 76-l CONTRACTAMENDMENT- CAR COUNTRY EXPANSION - Request to approve a 35 acre expansion of the existing car dealership facilities located south of Cannon Road, east of Paseo de1 Norte, north of Palomar Airport Road in Local Facilities Management Plan Zone 3. Mike Howes, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the proposed project is a 35 acre eastwardly expansion to the existing Car Country. The proposed expansion would create 13 lots which would back up to the existing dealerships. Although the proposed development is relatively straightforward, there are seven complex discretionary actions which must be approved prior to development, i.e. General Plan Amendment, Zone Change, Local Coastal Plan Amendment, Agricultural Preserve No. 76-l Contract Amendment, Specific Plan Amendment, Tentative Tract Map, and Amendment to Local Facilities Management Plan for Zone 3. Staff recommends the General Plan designation of RRE since this designation is appropriate for establishments dealing in large, low volume, high cost items for which customers are willing to travel great distances. The proposed location adjacent to the existing Car Country near I-5 is ideal to Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm P ? MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 9 COMMISSIONERS meet this use and is suitably separated from residential areas. The proposed zone change will require approval of an SDP prior to development. The applicant is agreeable to all conditions, including dedication of a right-of-way on Palomar Airport Road. Mike Howes noted that one memorandum dated November 4, 1987 and three memoranda dated November 12, 1987 had been distributed to the Commissioners with minor revisions to the documents under consideration. Gary Wayne explained the amendment to Agricultural Reserve No. 76-l and stated that the approval is contingent upon approval by the California Coastal Commission. Chairman Marcus inquired about the errata adding Engineering Condition 1158 and was advised that this errata should add Condition 1159 instead. Commissioner McFadden inquired why the boundary of land being moved into the Agricultural Reserve is not further east. Mike Howes replied that the developer is hoping to maintain the flower fields behind Pea Soup Andersen's but that once land is taken it cannot be amended for at least ten years. Ron Ball clarified the point by saying that once land is taken into Agricultural Reserve, it cannot be subtracted out under the same provisions. Commissioner McFadden inquired why the Coastal Plan shows a 100 ft. buffer to make the agriculture compatible with other uses. Gary Wayne replied that the Coastal Plan requires a major buffer such as a fence, but that staff does not feel a fence is always appropriate. Commissioner McFadden inquired about the tentative map and the remaining parcels. Clyde Wickham, Associate Engineer, pointed out the remaining parcels on the overhead and stated that the tentative map does not require that specific parcels be identified. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. John White, 4401 Manchester, Suite 206, Encinitas, representing Carltas Development Company, addressed the Commission and stated that Carltas Development Company has owned the property for over 50 years and plans a quality development. The benefits to the City will be substantial and should produce an annual tax revenue of approximately $1.5 million. The applicant agrees with the staff recommendation with the exception that they feel limited food and auto banking should be included for employees of Car Country and to provide a financing arm for auto dealers. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Commissioner Holmes doesn't feel that banking or food should be available and would like to see Lots l-3 remain for dealers. Commissioner McBane would like to see some of the export soil used to mask existing automobile inventories; he is not in favor of food in Lots l-3; and feels that if dealers merge . *. - ‘,. P -. MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 10 COMMISSIONERS lots that a condition should be added to revert back to the previous driveway allocation method. Commissioner Hall would like to see some automobile accessory shops or related small businesses in need of exposure placed on Lots l-3. He doesn't think a bank is needed. Commissioner Schlehuber would accept the staff recommendation and likes Commissioner Hall's idea of accessory auto on Lots l-3. In addition, he agrees with Commissioner McBane's point on the driveway allocation. Chairman Marcus inquired when the driveways would be determined and Mike Howes replied that the driveways are not locked in until the SDP is approved. Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, responded that a condition could be added to the Specific Plan to handle the driveway situation if lots are merged. Commissioner McBane would like to see a pedestrian easement and cited the recent Mitsubishi expansion. Mike Howes replied that a pedestrian easement should be added now, if one is desired. Commissioner McFadden stated that she is not in favor of an eating area but would accept one by CUP if a need is demonstrated. She disagrees with Commissioner Hall regarding auto accessory stores on Cannon Road. In addition, she is concerned about the height limits and would like to see a maximum height of 25 ft. or two stories, whichever is less. Chairman Marcus, Commissioners Holmes and Schramm agree on the 25 ft. height limitation. Commissioner McFadden thinks pedestrian access is important and feels that sidewalk improvements are needed. Commissioner McFadden inquired how the Commission should vote on the tentative map when it is not definite. Ron Ball replied that the final map must be in conformance with the tentative map and that the remaining parcels should be conditioned so they cannot be sold. Commissioner Schlehuber feels that developers can be told to keep structure heights to a minimum. He is in favor of a 30 ft. height limit but does not want buildings visible from the freeway. He would like to see this be part of the SDP approval process. Michael Holzmiller asked staff to respond to the 25 ft./30 ft. height situation. Mike Howes stated that the existing Car Country plan allows a height of 30 ft., which is why the current plan was given the same allowance. The applicant responded by saying that a height limit of 25 ft. could restrict dealers from locating in the area. Commissioner Hall would like to see special consideration given to visual details on Paseo de1 Norte. He then inquired about the setbacks on Cannon. Mike Howes replied that the setback stated on page 6 is 25 ft. Chairman Marcus feels that car dealerships should be located on Lots l-3 and Commissioner Schlehuber thinks that, realistically, dealers will locate there due to the high rent which a small business could not afford. . ‘. ,- ‘%. November 12, 1987 f” MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION Page 11 1 After discussion, it was decided to accept a minute motion on each of the items being discussed. 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) To accept auto accessory shops on Lots l-3. Motion failed. To require driveway allocation method to revert to old method when lots merge. Motion carried. To allow food service with a CUP. Motion carried. To accept a 30 ft. height limitation and require the SDP to be sensitive to architectural detail. Motion carried. To require a pedestrian easement along Lot 10 down the existing Car Country easement. Motion carried. To require sidewalks along the east side of Paseo de1 Norte all the way to Palomar Airport Road. Motion caried. To permit limited food service on Lots 11-13. Motion carried. To require berming of soil on the west side to hide vehicle inventory. Motion failed. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schraann Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm COMMISSIONERS . ‘. , - P -. MINUTES November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 12 COMMISSIONERS Prior to a final motion, Gary Wayne reported that staff has been advised by the City Attorney's Office regarding an obscure government code, Section 51282 (The Williamson Act), which the Commissioners should be aware of. He explained that by approving the Specific Plan, the Commission will initiate an action of cancelling a part of the area now in the Agricultural Reserve and create a new contract on another area, and that the cancellation would not likely result in removal of adjacent land in agriculture. The approval of the SDP and LCPA actually establishes the mechanism for the long term preservation of adjacent agricultural lands. The second point requires that the action be consistent with the General Plan, which this action would do, since the General Plan is also being amended. And, finally, that the change must be in the public interest and that no other area is better suited for the intended use. Since the only other place to expand Car Country would be to the south, it would necessitate having dealerships in several different areas which would defeat the purpose of having all the auto dealers in one central area to eliminate traffic congestion. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to recommend approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director, recommend that the City Council amend the contract establishing Agricultural Preserve No. 76-l and also adopt Resolution Nos. 2689, 2690, 2691, 2692, 2693, 2694, and 2695 recommending approval of GPA/LU 87-1, ZC 87-2, SP-19(C), CT 87-3, LCPA 87-2 (LCPA 87-2F), LFMP 87-3(2) to the City Council based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained herein. Commissioner McFadden requested that the record show she voted against the motion due to the height limit of 30 ft. and the food service. Commissioner Schramm requested that the record show she was also in favor of a 25 ft. height limit. Commissioner McBane inquired if some language could be added to discourage the applicant from building to 30 ft. Ron Ball replied that the motion should be reconsidered if height is a problem. Motion was duly made and seconded to reconsider the main motion. Motion failed. 7) PCD/GPC 87-S/PCD/GPC 87-6 - General Plan Consistency Determination for Utilities & Maintenance Projects and for Alta Mira Park. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the background of the request and stated that Section 65401 of the California Government Code requires that a General Plan Consistency Determination be made for major public works projects. The following maintenance projects have been proposed or undertaken by the Utilities and Maintenance Department per the 1986-87 work program: (1) Street Overlay Program; (2) Curbs, Gutters, and Sidewalks Replacement Program; (3) Slurry Seal Program; (4) Fox's Landing Pump Station Upgrade; and (5) the purchase and relocation of a 15-30 acre community park east of Paseo de1 Norte, North of Camino de las Ondos, and just east of the Alta Mira project. Staff Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm November 12, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 13 -? MINUTES COMMISSIONERS \; recommends approval of the consistency determination because these projects support the maintenance projects in concert with the General Plan and the Alta Mira Park site. Commissioner McFadden requested a definition of "major public works project." Charles Grimm replied that the City had no specific definition of major. Ron Ball added that "major" was added because it was used in the State law. A Minute Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried that Utilities and Maintenance Project Nos. 13, 14, 15, the Fox's Landing Pump Station Upgrade, and the Alta Mira Park site are consistent with the General Plan. MINUTES: The Planning Commission approved the minutes of October 21, 1987 as presented. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting of November adjourned at 9:25 p.m. 12, 1987 was Respectfully submitted, Planning Director BETTY BUCKNER Minutes Clerk MINUTES ARE ALSO TAPED AND KEPT ON FILE UNTIL THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schlehuber Schramm