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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-02-15; Planning Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: PLANNING COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m. 4 Date of Meeting: February 15, 1989 ? Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers \ COMMISSIONERS ’ CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Hall called the Meeting to order at 6:12 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Hall. ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Hall, Commissioners Erwin, Holmes, Marcus, Schlehuber, and Schramm Absent - Commissioner McFadden Staff Members Present: Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director Gary Wayne, Principal Planner Bobbie Hoder, Senior Management Analyst Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney Bob Wojcik, Principal Civil Engineer David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES: Chairman Hall reviewed the Planning Commission procedures on the overhead for the benefit of the audience. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THE AGENDA: There were no comments from the audience. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1) CUP 88-13 - (CITY OF CARLSBAD) - TENNIS COURTS Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit for the installation of lighting at the Carlsbad High School tennis courts located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Valley and Basswood Streets, in Local Facilities Management Zone 1. Gary Wayne, Principal Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the City of Carlsbad Department of Parks and Recreation is proposing to install lighting at the existing Carlsbad High School tennis courts. There are nine existing tennis courts on approximately two acres surrounded by a 12' tall chain link fence with windscreen. The tennis courts were constructed in 1978 and are used by both the high school and the general public. The lighting would be installed on four 25' poles, each with 1000 watt light fixtures. The perimeter poles would have one light fixture facing inward. The lights would function on a time basis and would be available daily from 5:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. The lights would operate on a push button fixture. The perimeter of the project is proposed to be landscaped fully with a combination of evergreen shrubs and tall White Alder trees to help reduce any sound impacts as well as lighting impacts on the neighborhood. The neighborhood is composed primarily of single family residences except for the adjacent high school ball fields. Staff considered the Growth Management Plan (Local Facilities Management Plan Zone l), community desirability, site adequacy, maintenance, and circulation. The tennis court standard of desirability defined by the Parks and Recreation ,- MINUTES r7 February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 2 COMMISSIONERS Department is 1 tennis court for each 2,000 residents. We are currently below the standard and rather than build new courts at the present time, it is proposed to utilize Bond Act funds to provide lighting to tennis courts in order to extend the hours of play and help satisfy the standard. The lighting system has been designed to minimize impacts on the surrounding residential areas by reflecting directly downward, being glare-proof, and only able to operate during specified times. The perimeter landscaping will consist of fast-growing shrubs and trees which will also reduce noise and light impacts. In order to be sensitive to the neighborhood, staff has added a condition that requires periodic review. If significant complaints on the lighting are received, the Planning Commission can choose to eliminate the perimeter lighting or reprogram the lighting system to shut off at an earlier time. Staff recommends approval. Commissioner Schlehuber inquired if the leaves dropped from the Alder trees would result in a maintenance problem. Mr. Wayne replied that the leaves would be removed by the Parks and Recreation maintenance staff. Commissioner Schlehuber suggested that if maintenance is a problem, perhaps an evergreen tree should be considered. Mr. Wayne replied that evergreen trees drop their leaves on a continuous basis and might cause more of a maintenance problem. Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent, added that the Alder trees were recommended because of their rapid growth and the fact that their leaves would only drop once a year. Commissioner Erwin inquired if the noise impacts were addressed. Mr. Wayne replied that the courts are in existence today and the lighting would only extend the hours of play in the wintertime about 4-5 hours and in the summer about one hour. Chairman Hall inquired if staff has received noise complaints from other tennis courts or are complaints mostly due to lighting. Mr. Duncanson replied that a noise complaint was received in La Costa for early morning noise and the hours of operation were changed. Commissioner Holmes inquired if Parks and Recreation maintains the tennis courts throughout the city. Mr. Duncanson replied that they maintain all tennis courts including the Jr. High and High School through a joint use agreement. Commissioner Holmes inquired that since there is a charge for using the swimming pool, would there be a charge to use the tennis courts. Dave Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, replied that there would not be a charge at this time. Mr. Bradstreet added that the proposed lights for this project are of the latest technology and are better than those installed at Lake Calavera. Parks and Recreation is very sensitive to impacts upon the surrounding neighborhoods but he cannot guarantee there will be no problems. Commissioner Schlehuber noted that the lights at Calavera Hills are a completely different type of lighting because it is designed for ball fields. ,- MINUTES T7 February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 3 Commissioner Holmes inquired if play on the courts is scheduled. Mr. Bradstreet replied that play on the high school courts is generally open play. There are rules that a person cannot take over the court for an entire day. Only tournaments are scheduled which are only 2-3 times a year. The school has priority to use the courts during school hours. Chairman Hall inquired how someone giving lessons would be handled. Mr. Bradstreet replied that anyone giving lessons would be handled the same as all other public tennis courts are now handled. Chairman Hall opened the public testimony and issued the invitation to speak. Bob Spring, 1750 Basswood, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he lives directly across from the tennis courts. He feels that the homes on Basswood facing the tennis courts will be negatively impacted. He has not heard anyone state why lighting is needed because he has observed that other lighted courts are not currently in full use during the evenings. He noted that during the winter when the courts would receive the most night use, the White Alder trees would have no leaves to reduce the lighting impact. Although it might be desirable to have a certain amount of courts, he requested Commissioners to strongly consider whether there is a genuine need, since these courts are not fully used during the daytime, mid-week or weekends. If lighting is truly needed, he would like staff to consider another type of tree. Chairman Hall explained to Mr. Spring that the lights stay on for 60 minutes after a button is pushed, and then go off automatically. Commissioner Erwin inquired if Mr. Spring is concerned about the noise pollution. He replied that when there are tennis tournaments and other heavy uses, there is a lot of noise. He would like peace and tranquility in the evening when he comes home from work. The lights from the football field now light up his entire house on Friday nights and he would prefer not to have this situation seven days a week. As far as noise, he wouldn't mind it at 8:00 p.m. but doesn't want it at 10:00 p.m. Kathryn Taylor, representing her mother, Mary Wilder, 1696 Basswood, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that her mother planned to be here this evening but was taken ill. She read a letter which her mother had written objecting to the noise, trash problems, vandalism, parking/congestion, and lighting impacts. A copy of her letter is on file in the Planning Department. Floyd Packard, Jr., 3475 Valley, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he lives kiddie-corner from the courts and is opposed to the proposed lighting. There are many parking problems on his street, which last all day, especially with the school remodeling. He would be opposed to a continuation of these problems into the evening hours. He would like to know if adjacent residents would be consulted during the periodic review, and how many negative comments would be needed in order to modify the policy. He noted that the lighting poles will be 25' and the Alder trees will be planted down the hill which would mean that they must grow 35' in order to block out the lights--this might take a . - . ’ p MINUTES February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 4 COMMISSIONERS very long time. He currently has a big problem with trash being deposited in his yard. He is also concerned about the noise impacts. Chairman Hall inquired if Mr. Packard feels the trash is as a result of the tennis courts or the school in general. Mr. Packard feels that both contribute to the trash problem. A lot of trash comes from the high school students who park in front of his home and take lunch breaks at their cars. He stated that there is always an abundance of trash around the tennis courts as well as in the gutters around the tennis courts. Connie Terrona, 3131 Valley, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that she lives directly across from the tennis courts. She has lived in Carlsbad for 20 years and noted it was very peaceful before the tennis courts were built. She has always allowed her grandchildren to play in their driveway but now, with all of the cars that use her driveway to turn around, she cannot allow her grandchildren to play there. There are no parking spaces in front of her home for use by relatives or visiting friends. She noted that there is a lot of trash and profanity and she feels it is unfair. In addition, she noted that the trash receptacle at the tennis courts is always full and she has seen it sit full and overflowing for over one week. She objects to the lighting on the football field and feels that the lighting on the tennis courts will only exacerbate the problem. Joe McMahan, 1780 Basswood, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission and stated that he lives two houses up from the tennis courts and the neighbors tolerate a lot by living in that neighborhood. There is noise from football games, band practice at night which continues until 10:00 p.m., and the football field lights. He feels that lights at the tennis courts is the last thing that the neighbors need. There is a bus route through the area and a high volume of traffic during mid-week as well as weekends, and significantly more during football season. Regarding the study on tennis tournaments, he stated that there were approximately 16 tournaments this past year on weekends (both Saturday and Sunday), and it is impossible to even park his own car in front of his house. There being no other persons desiring to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Hall declared the public testimony closed and asked staff to respond the public comments and questions. Mr. Bradstreet responded as follows: Need for lighted courts - There is currently a deficit of nine tennis courts. When the high school converted some of their courts to alleviate a parking problem, it left the city with a deficit. The high school tennis courts, when originally built, were plumbed for future lighting, and the city has just recently discovered a financing mechanism to install the lights. Periodic Reviews - Reviews will be conducted by the Planning staff. Problems would be addressed when a complaint is received. TypeofTree- The White Alder tree is a fast growing tree with very low maintenance. Mr. Duncanson explained that the deciduous period of the White Alder is only about one p MINUTES /I February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 5 COMMISSIONERS ’ month long but staff can look at alternatives such as the Poplar or Pine. Trash and Litter - There is scheduled weekly maintenance to clean the courts and pick up trash inside the court area. The problem could also be attributed to the school. Staff will look into expanding the trash pickup around the court perimeter and will contact the school district regarding the trash receptacle. Parking - There are no provisions for additional parking. Noise - Tennis is traditionally a much quieter sport than softball or football. Staff will put up signs requesting patrons to refrain from using profanity. Complaints are addressed on a case-by-case basis and residents were instructed to call the police if there is a problem. Commissioner Marcus inquired how many tennis courts there are all together in the city. Mr. Bradstreet replied that counting the nine tennis courts at the high school, and the six at the junior high school, there is a total of 25 tennis courts today. The performance standard calls for 34 courts today. Mr. Wayne replied to the comment regarding the review process and what will be required to make a change. The CUP contains a standard condition which requires that the conditions be met on a continual basis. There are few other conditions because the project meets most of the requirements. If numerous and/or regular complaints are received, it could result in the perimeter lighting being reduced or the hours of play being reduced. The other alternative would be to revoke the CUP entirely. Chairman Hall inquired what would necessitate it being brought back to the Commission. Mr. Wayne replied that any recommendation for action would be brought back for information purposes and/or concurrence. Commissioner Schramm inquired if the shrubs will be planted next to the fencing or down the slopes. Mr. Wayne replied that shrubs will be located at the top and the bottom of the slope. The planned shrub is a Ceanethus (Hurricane Point) which will grow 4-5' tall and spread 8-10'. Landscaping is not considered to be very effective in noise attenuation. He added that monies may not be available to light all nine courts, in which case only the interior courts would be lighted. Commissioner Schlehuber feels that the football field lights are a totally different type of lighting than what is proposed for the tennis courts, and they cannot be compared. He visited the Kelly and Stagecoach courts and noticed that people are always waiting to play at those courts. Therefore, he feels there is a need for the lighted courts. He believes that a fast growing pine tree might be a better tree. He can support the CUP with the following additional conditions: (1) there are no tournaments after 6:00 p.m., and (2) play stops at 9:30 p.m. Commissioner Marcus has sympathy for the neighbors but she doesn't feel that this lighting or noise will be minimal compared to the football field situation. If students are c-- MINUTES ‘I causing the trash problem by eating at their cars, residents should complain to the school. She can support no tournaments after 6:00 p.m. and would like to see play stopped at 9:00 p.m. Commissioner Erwin cannot support the proposal because he cannot make Finding l/l. He feels there is an implied warranty to every homeowner for a certain level of privacy. He feels the residents are already overburdened which the benefit does not offset. He is more concerned with noise and traffic. Commissioner Schramm can support the proposal with the following conditions: (1) no tournaments after 6:00 p.m., (2) staff should look at a fast-growing evergreen tree and perhaps a larger specimen than proposed, (3) the CUP be reviewed in one year, and (4) play stops at 9:00 p.m. in the winter and 10:00 p.m. in the summer. She would like to see the interior courts activated first and reviewed within one year, giving the residents an opportunity to voice problems associated with the extended hours. She understands their problems and would like to work with them. Commissioner Holmes stated that he has heard nothing but negatives and felt it was interesting that not one tennis player showed up to speak. The lighting will not increase the number of courts and will only add three additional hours of trash, noise, and parking problems. He cannot support it. Chairman Hall can support the proposal with the staff recommendations. He does play tennis and feels there is a need for additional courts. He doesn't perceive a noise problem from tennis as there is with softball or football. He noted that the lights at the Stagecoach courts are focused downward and have little effect on the perimeter areas. He can agree that there should be no tournaments after 6:00 p.m. If there is a problem after the lights are installed, he feels the safeguards are built into the system to correct the problems. Chairman Hall inquired if the CUP would be automatically returned after three months if numerous complaints are received. Mr. Wayne replied that the permit may be revoked after a public hearing, at any time, if numerous complaints are received. However, the CUP is recommended for approval for a five year period, with yearly reviews as to compliance with conditions. Mr. Ball, Assistant City Attorney, directed attention to the highlighted portion of Condition #2 which clearly states the actions to be taken if numerous complaints are received. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 2822 approving CUP 88-13, based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein, with the following added conditions: (1) no tournaments after 6:00 p.m., (2) trees be investigated more thoroughly, (3) play stops at 9:30 p.m. year around, and (4) the CUP is brought back as an information item after one year and if there is a need, a public hearing can be called. February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 6 COMMISSIONERS Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm 2) CUP 88-19 - MISSION WEST DELI - Request approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow a 900 square foot deli located at 5950 La Place Court in the Carlsbad Research MINUTES February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION 4 Page 7 COMMISSIONERS \ ’ Center. The proposed project is located within Local Facilities Management Zone 5. Gary Wayne, Principal Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit to operate a 900 sq. ft. delicatessen at 5950 La Place Court, in the Carlsbad Research Center, which is allowed under SP 180. The project site includes two 40,000 sq. ft. office buildings and the proposed deli will be located at the western end of one of the buildings. There will be no cooking on the site and disposable tableware will be used. There will be no tables provided at the facility and five parking spaces will be provided. The deli will operate between the hours of 6:30 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, and will be closed on Saturday and Sunday. The CUP has been conditioned to require deliveries between the off-peak hours of 9:00-10:00 a.m. and 2:00-3:00 p.m. Staff can make the findings and recommends approval. Commissioner Erwin inquired if the various property management companies are working together to control the number of delicatessens in the Carlsbad Research Center. Mr. Wayne passed out a map showing the locations of existing approved and proposed deli's. It is hoped that the property managers are working together, but staff does not get involved. Chairman Hall opened the public testimony and issued the invitation to speak. Norman Curl, 2399 Jefferson, Carlsbad, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and stated that he concurs with all of the conditions recommended by staff, including Conditions t16 and #17 added by staff memo dated February 15, 1989. He requested the Commission to approve the CUP. Robin Kay, 1853 No. Vulcan #5, Leucadia, addressed the Commission and stated that she owns Pickle's Deli in the Carlsbad Research Center. Even though the Carlsbad Research Center is projected for high growth, there are many vacancies and five deli's within a one mile radius. She thinks this is excessive and asked the Commission to take into consideration the number of people currently employed within the area. She noted that when she had applied for her CUP, one of the Planning Commissioners had made a statement about the proliferation of deli's in the area. Since then three additional deli's have been approved. She thinks it is excessive. Brian Kim, 2345 Via Francesca, Apt. U, Carlsbad, operator of the proposed deli, addressed the Commission and stated that he feels the Carlsbad Research Center is densely populated and that the other deli's are not within walking distance. His goal is to serve people within walking distance and he believes all of the deli's can be compatible. Commissioner Erwin inquired if Mr. Kim has a problem with the condition for no tables and where the people are expected to eat their food. Using a map, Mr. Kim showed a courtyard in the area where a nice seating area is provided which will accommodate people eating lunch. There being no other persons desiring to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Hall declared the public /- MINUTES testimony closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Commissioner Marcus inquired if the deli on Paseo de1 Norte is the Tip Top Deli and if the eating area at Hadley's has a CUP. Mr. Wayne replied that the deli on Paseo de1 Norte is Tip Top and that the Hadley's eating facility does not have a separate CUP. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt Resolution No. 2826 approving CUP 88-19, based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein. 4 February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 8 COMMISSIONERS \ ’ Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm RECESS The Planning Commission recessed at 7:30 p.m. and reconvened at 7:40 p.m. INFORMATION ITEM: 3) PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP - Small lots - single family detached units. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, stated that there has been concern regarding the appearance of projects that have already been approved and built under current standards and this workshop is to discuss two issues: (1) how to handle increases in the square footage of previously approved units in small lot subdivisions, and (2) whether or not there should be some guidelines for the development of small-lot single family detached units. Staff has been working with several different developer and architect groups trying to formulate small-lot guidelines. He reviewed some areas which the guidelines did not address (floor area ratios, mandatory percentage of single story units, distance between units , minimum lot size) and stated that these items were carefully considered but purposely omitted because they either needed an ordinance amendment or restricted flexibility. Staff recommended that the proposed guidelines should be applied to all single family detached projects in excess of four units where lot frontages are less an 60' in length, or where the PUD ordinance is being utilized. A slide presentation was made showing various types of home designs and how street views can be varied to eliminate the row house appearance for a more interesting look. He reviewed each of the guidelines and showed examples of applicable product designs. Mr. Grimm acknowledged the efforts of the Bren Company, Leisure Tech, Mike Ryan Development, Hillman Properties, Hoffman Planning Associates, and architectural firms: Kirk McKinley, Aram Bassinian, Wayne Davis, and Larry Case. Commissioner Erwin inquired about the square footage of the lots and the units in the Harbor Point development. Mr. Grimm replied that he thought the lot frontage was 35' and 40', depending on the product type. He estimated the unit size to be approximately 1,800-2,000 sq. ft. P MINUTES February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 9 Commissioner Erwin has a problem with Guideline f7 (offset two door garages) because he feels it would necessitate a side entrance to the home and would cause a row house look. Mr. Grimm replied that this guideline could be changed. It was designed to be a maximum. Commissioner Schlehuber inquired about the provision for street parking. Mr. Grimm replied that there is an engineering standard which states the driveway can not utilize more than 40% of the lot. This would allow parking for at least one vehicle between driveways. Another possibility is to provide parking bays throughout the project. Commissioner Holmes inquired if zero lot line concepts were ever discussed since it would provide more open space. Mr. Grimm replied that zero lot line is allowed under the code but staff did not want to require mandatory use of the zero lot line concept. Commissioner Holmes was thinking in terms of 50% zero lot line usage. Chairman Hall inquired about the heavy usage of Mediterranean style construction which does not have much roof overhang. Mr. Grimm stated that staff did not attempt to address specific architectural styles. Chairman Hall invited interested persons in attendance to present their comments. Doug Avis, representing the Fieldstone Company, 6670 El Camino Real, addressed the Commission and stated that his company is concerned about many of the things which staff has addressed. He presented photographs of good and bad designs and suggested ways in which the architecture could be improved. Larry Case, Lorimar & Case Architects, addressed the Commission and stated that he has encouraged staff to consider four-sided architecture since the end result is a better product with more than just curb appeal. Mike Ryan, owner of eight acres next to Stagecoach Park, addressed the Commission and stated that the guidelines which have been presented by staff can easily be applied to developments of 50 units or more. However, with less than 25 units, he feels it is difficult to comply with #l, i/3, #4, and i/6. Mr. Grimm responded to Mr. Ryan's comments and stated that his project falls under the 527 existing approved projects which staff has recommended to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. It is felt that there may be some leeway in applying the guidelines to those projects. There were no other persons who desired to address the Commission on this subject. Commissioner Schlehuber inquired what action should be taken by the Planning Commission. Mr. Ball, Assistant City Attorney, replied that it may not be necessary to amend the PHD ordinance since the design guidelines can be adopted by resolution and forwarded to the City Council. This would enable changes to be made to the guidelines as the need arises. ? MINUTES February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 10 COMMISSIONERS ’ Commissioner Schlehuber can support the proposed guidelines and H5 of the Architectural Options (variety in roof framing, page 3); he would like to add "rear yard landscaping" to the last item on page 4 of the Architectural Options. He believes that 3,500 sq. ft. lots are too small and would like to see the lot size increased to 5,000-5,500 on future subdivisions. He would like staff to investigate whether 10' is enough side yard between two 2-story units. He believes it should come back after six months to see if the guidelines are working or if changes are needed. Commissioner Marcus can support the guidelines and thinks the six month trial period would be good. She appreciated the presentations and comments by the developers. She can accept Commissioner Schlehuber's suggestions. Commissioner Erwin is concerned about 3-car garages on small lots because he does not feel that they look good. He can support the guidelines and the addition of 115 (Architectural Options) for variety in roof framing. He agrees with Commissioner Schlehuber about a separate resolution to consider an increase in the minimum lot size. Mr. Grimm responded to the comments on rear yard landscaping and stated that this was not included because it is very difficult to require anything,at close of escrow. He suggested that a small developer might not be able to afford this condition and suggested it not apply to projects of, perhaps, 5-20 units. Mr. Ball added that the close of escrow has a lot of significance to private parties but not in the timing of the city's permit approval process. He suggested that the last permit issued by the city could be considered a certificate of occupancy, which would be the last time the city could impose conditions. He added that amending the PUB ordinance for a change in setbacks can be accomplished by a formal resolution. Commissioner Schramm agrees with Commissioner Schlehuber on the addition of #5 (Architectural Options) but is confused on the landscaping issue and if it would be applied according to unit size or number of units. She would like to have a separate resolution to look at the PUB ordinance in terms of lot distances, side yards, and back yard distances when they face a slope. She appreciated hearing from the audience on this topic. Commissioner Holmes agrees with Commissioner Schlehuber, however he would not be in favor of requiring rear yard landscaping except on perimeter developments. He thinks the city needs to establish a minimum lot size and believes that 5,000 sq. ft. would be adequate. Chairman Hall inquired about the minimum lot size. Mr. Grimm replied that the minimum lot size is 3,500 sq. ft. and the minimum street frontage is 40' except for cul-de-sacs which are 35'. Chairman Hall does not like a 3,500 sq. ft. lot but from a marketing standpoint, can support it if the architecture is done correctly. His biggest concern is the size of the streets and what the home looks like. He feels that there is a need for 3,500 sq. ft. lots, especially for first time homebuyers. He can support the guidelines but cannot accept rear yard landscaping unless they are perimeter lots. . I l I-- MINUTES February 15, 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION Page l1 COMMISSIONERS ’ Commissioner Schlehuber agrees that rear landscaping should only be required when the rear lots face a street. He doesn't feel we can decide on a lot size tonight but would like to open up the PUB ordinance to look at it. Commissioner Marcus is willing to look at the PUD ordinance and agrees that there may be a need for 3,500 sq. ft. lots. Commissioner Schlehuber believes there is a need for low cost apartment buildings, not to mention a myriad of other things. He also believes that there needs to be space for citizens, which is why he would like to look at the ordinance. Commissioner Erwin thinks everyone is together except on the landscaping. Commissioner Schlehuber clarified that he is only interested in rear yard landscaping when the rear of a home faces a street. Mr. Grimm remarked that no rear yard landscaping is now required on single family homes unless there is a slope or common area because it is difficult to enforce and people want to do their own. He suggested that the Commission might rephrase this item to require trees being planted on perimeter lots. Mr. Ball suggested that it might be appropriate for the Commission to direct staff to return with a resolution which incorporates the comments voiced tonight. He added that if a resolution of intention is adopted, it becomes the basis for an amendment to the zoning ordinance which would require a public hearing before the Planning Commission as well as the City Council. Commissioner Schramm commented that the main objection seemed to be the flat building edge which would not be a problem if the four-side concept is utilized. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt the Small Lot Single Family Detached Unit Guidelines as recommended by staff memorandum dated February 15, 1989, comprising two pages (unnumbered), with the added guideline that there be a variety in roof framing direction as stated on page 3, item 5, and that the guidelines be adopted for a period of six months. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to ask the City Council's permission to open up the PUD ordinance to investigate lot size; to consider increasing all setbacks; and to consider increasing the distance between buildings. Chairman Hall thanked the developers and architects who attended the meeting and provided input and comments. REPORTS Commissioner Schlehuber reported that the Growth Committee reported to the City Council last night and he expects the City Council to support their recommendations. One of the recommendations is that the committee continue with the same membership, which the Council appeared to accept, and that the terms be staggered, tihich could affect the Planning Commission. Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm n H H II n R r n n R n n February 15, 1989 MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION Page 12 COMM Chairman Hall commended Commissioner Schlehuber on his excellent presentation to the City Council. Chairman Hall recognized Dolores Kronenberg and Betty Ring in the audience representing the League of Women's Voters. MINUTES: The Planning Commission approved the minutes of February 1, 1989 as presented. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting of February 15, 1989 was adjourned at 9:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, MICHAEL HOLZMILLER Planning Director BETTY BUCKNER Minutes Clerk MINUTES ARE ALSO TAPED AND KEPT ON FILE UNTIL THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm Erwin Hall Holmes Marcus Schlehuber Schramm 5 8 c c c c t c c t c c c c