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CALL TO ORDER
March 16, 2016
PLANNING COMMISSION
6:00p.m.
March 16, 2016
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Chairperson Anderson called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner L'Heureux led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
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Present: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioners Black, Goyarts, L'Heureux, Montgomery, Segall
and Siekmann
Absent: None
STAFF PRESENT
Don Neu, City Planner
Ron Kemp, Assistant City Attorney
Bridget Desmarais, Administrative Secretary
Christer Westman, Senior Planner
Pam Drew, Associate Planner
Greg Fisher, Associate Planner
Austin Silva, Associate Planner
Jason Geldert, Engineering Manager
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any corrections or revisions to the minutes of the meeting of
February 3, 2016.
MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner Black to
approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of February 3, 2016.
VOTE: 6-0-1
AYES: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner L'Heureux,
Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner Siekmann
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Goyarts
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA
None.
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PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING
Chairperson Anderson asked Mr. Neu to introduce the first item and opened the public hearing on Agenda
Item 1
1. CUP 08-22(A) -VERIZON CARLSBAD HS WCF -Request for an amendment to
Conditional Use Permit No. CUP 08-22 to allow for the removal and replacement of six four
foot tall panel antennas with six, eight foot tall antennas, six new Remote Radio Units
(RRU) and one AC power surge suppressor behind the antennas that are located on an
existing light standard at the northwest corner of the athletic field within the Carlsbad High
School campus located at 3557 Monroe Street and in Local Facilities Management Zone
1. The City Planner has determined that the project belongs to a class of projects that the
State Secretary for Resources has found do not have a significant impact on the
environment, and is therefore categorically exempt from the requirement for the
preparation of environmental documents pursuant to Section 15301 (e) (Additions to
Existing Structures) of the state CEQA guidelines.
Mr. Neu stated Agenda Item 1 would normally be heard in a public hearing context; however, the project
appears to be minor and routine in nature with no outstanding issues and Staff recommends approval. He
recommended that the public hearing be opened and closed, and that the Commission proceed with a vote
as a consent item. Staff would be available to respond to questions if the Commission or someone from
the public wished to comment on Agenda Item 1.
Chairperson Anderson asked if any member of the audience wished to address Agenda Item 1. Seeing
none, she opened and closed public testimony.
MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner L'Heureux that
the Planning Commission approve Agenda Item 1.
VOTE: 7-0
AYES: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner
L'Heureux, Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner
Siekmann
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairperson Anderson closed the public hearing on Agenda Item 1, asked Mr. Neu to introduce the next
item and opened the public hearing on Agenda Item 2.
2. COP 14-06/CUP 15-08-BUENA OUTFALL FORCE MAIN PHASE Ill-Request for the
adoption of the Findings of the Final Mitigated Negative Declaration (MND), the Mitigation
Monitoring and Reporting Program (MMRP) and Addendum, prepared and approved by
the Buena Sanitation District, as adequate for the Buena Outfall Force Main Phase Ill
project, and approval of a Coastal Development Permit and a Conditional Use Permit to
allow the construction of a sewer pipeline and appurtenances within the Mello II Segment
of the City's Coastal Zone on property generally located within the public rights-of-way
located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Palomar Airport Road and El Camino
Real, traversing within the westbound lanes of Palomar Airport Road, and continuing south
on Paseo del Norte for approximately 1,200 feet within Local Facilities Management Zones
3, 5 and 13. The project is appealable to the California Coastal Commission per Section
30603(a)(5) of the Public Resources Code of the California Coastal Act, which states any
development which constitutes a major public works project costing $100,000 or more is
appealable to the Commission.
Mr. Neu introduced Agenda Item 2 and stated Associate Planner Pam Drew would make the staff
presentation.
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Ms. Drew gave a brief presentation and stated she would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Black asked when the start date is. Ms. Drew stated it would start at the end of this year.
How long will it take to complete? Completion is currently projected to be one year. Commissioner Black
asked about completion of Robertson Ranch? Mr. Geldert stated it should not be concurrent.
Commissioner Black asked about noise levels near Motel 6. Ms. Drew stated the environmental document
was completed; the sound walls were not part of the project and not analyzed. However, sound walls will
be installed along the length of construction to reduce noise levels to adjacent businesses. Work would be
done during the day.
Commissioner Montgomery asked Mr. Geldert to describe how Palomar Airport Road will be restored every
morning. Mr. Geldert stated during the week the trenches will be. flush to the pavement. By the weekend
they will be base paved back to the surface. Commissioner Montgomery asked if this could interrupt the
striping. Mr. Geldert responded that it should be between the striping. If there are issues, it can be
addressed at that time. Mr. Geldert does not see issues except in front of the motel. Ms. Drew added that
the project is conditioned for daytime work between 8:30a.m. to 4:30 p.m. in front of Motel 6 and possibly
other motels along the project site.
Commissioner Goyarts asked about the timeline of the project, one crew vs. two crews. Ms. Drew stated
that the timeline with one crew is about one year. With two crews, it is unknown but probably six months
to a year. Commissioner Goyarts asked about placing art on the boxes on the sidewalk. Ms. Drew stated
they started down that route but ended up not adding art components so the boxes would blend in with the
surrounding area.
Commissioner Siekmann asked about Palomar Airport Road/Paseo Del Norte westbound crossing and how
the closures will be taken care of. Mr. Geldert stated that will be at night with low traffic volumes and
monitored by the city. Commissioner Siekmann asked if during the day there will be no work. Mr. Geldert
stated they will attempt to keep that open during the day. Commissioner Siekmann asked about odor
control. If there is still odor present, staff has been assured that there will not be any. They applied a
Condition of Approval through San Diego County Air Pollution Control District, and they will monitor the
facility. Commissioner Siekmann asked what if there is an odor issue with the passive control. Ms. Drew
stated that the applicant will need to address that. Commissioner Siekmann asked how the beginning point
was selected. Ms. Drew deferred this question to the applicant. Commissioner Siekmann asked if the
project would affect any of the possible runway extensions? Ms. Drew stated that it would not.
Chairperson Anderson asked about signage. Ms. Drew said that signage will be part of the outreach plan.
The applicant gave a brief presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Elmer Alex, Principal Engineer, Buena Sanitation District, Sewer Engineering Dept., 200 Civic Center Drive,
Vista, represented the applicant. Carlsbad and Vista have long been partners in sewage since the early
1960's and are committed to taking care of the odor problems. A contractor with dual crews wi_ll receive
incentives to finish early. There will be minor interruption of traffic on El Camino Real.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Siekmann asked about odor control. Mr. Alex would obtain permits for the entire system
with constant monitoring in perpetuity. She also asked about the beginning line size of pipe. Mr. Alex said
the existing pipe is 24-inch in diameter and it is a force main. The line is shared with Carlsbad.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked for clarification on the outreach plan to the motorists who are using the
roadway. Mr. Alex stated that they are planning electronic message boards indicating lane closures. For
the businesses, a list has been developed and they will be notified of the work. Commissioner L'Heureux
asked about the storage of equipment and materials. Mr. Alex stated the contractor will be conditioned to
locate storage lots offsite.
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Commissioner Black asked Assistant City Attorney Kemp who would be liable for any accidents or law suits
that arise from the construction. Assistant City Attorney Kemp stated that Right of Way permits will be
issued by the city and it would indemnify the city for any accidents.
Commissioner Segall asked about the trenching. Mr. Alex explained that the trenches will be backfilled and
then covered with plates.
Chairperson Anderson asked about the decibel level at completion by the motel. Mr. Alex stated he did not
have an exact number but the number will be lower than the ambient noise, which includes the freeway,
and street noise. Chairperson Anderson asked where their phone numbers will be posted. Mr. Alex stated
that it will be posted on the odor control facilities. Chairperson Anderson asked how far from the sidewalk
the boxes will be. Mr. Alex stated it would be two feet from the right of way and 12 feet from the sidewalk.
Chairperson Anderson asked about Paseo Del Norte and impacts to the business. Mr. Alex said that the
driveway access will remain open. The outreach will work with the medical facilities to get their customer
patterns.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked
if any person in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, Chairperson Anderson opened
and closed public testimony on Agenda Item 2.
DISCUSSION
Commissioner Montgomery stated he can approve the project.
Commissioner Black stated he can approve the project.
Commissioner Goyarts stated he can approve the project.
Commissioner Siekmann stated he can approve the project.
Commissioner L'Heureux stated he can support the project.
Commissioner Segall stated he can support the project.
Chairperson Anderson stated she can approve the project.
MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner L'Heureux that
the Planning Commission adopt Planning Comr:nission Resolution No. 7148 adopting
the Final Mitigated Negative Declaration, Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting
Program and Addendum prepared and approved by the Buena Sanitation District as
adequate for the Buena Outfall Force Main Phase Ill project, and adopt Planning
Commission Resolution No. 7149 approving Coastal Development Permit (CDP 14-
06) and Conditional Use Permit (CUP 15-08) based on the findings and subject to
the condit.ions contained therein.
VOTE: 7-0
AYES: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner
L'Heureux, Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner
Siekmann
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairperson Anderson closed the public hearing on Agenda Item 2, asked Mr. Neu to introduce the next
item and opened the public hearing on Agenda Item 3.
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3. CT 15-06/RP 15-07 -THE WAVE -Request for a recommendation of approval of a
Tentative Tract Map and Major Review Permit to allow for the demolition of all structures
onsite and the construction of a four-story mixed-use building consisting of 8 residential
units, 13 timeshare units, 781 square feet of commercial space and a two level enclosed
parking garage situated on a 0.249-acre project site located at 2646 State Street within
District 4 -Residential Support Area of the Village Review (VR) Zone and Local Facilities
Management Zone 1. The project qualifies as a CEQA Guidelines Section 15332 (In-Fill
Development Projects) Class 32 Categorical Exemption.
Mr. Neu introduced Agenda Item 3 and stated Associate Planner Greg Fisher would make the staff
presentation.
Mr. Fisher gave a brief presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Black asked about timeshare parking and the car lift and what will happen when it doesn't
work. Mr. Geldert stated it is just like an elevator. If there are mechanical issues it will be maintained and
repaired by the HOA Mr. Geldert stated that there are safety mechanisms and we don't anticipate any
issues. Commissioner Black asked if there were any others in Carlsbad. Mr. Geldert responded that there
are not. Commissioner Black asked how residents will go out if there are issues with the lift. Mr. Geldert
stated the timeshare spaces are on the ground floor and there will be less trips in and out. This issue would
be very rare and infrequent.
Commissioner Montgomery asked about the application of condos and timeshares within the same project.
How successful are those and are people using this as a tool to say one or the other is not working. He
understands that the code allows this. Mr. Fisher stated the applicant can speak to the issue. Not sure if
there is enough history in the city. Mr. Neu stated the State and Oak project is the only one he is aware of
that included timeshare units and condominiums. We have been meeting with the applicant to discuss
eliminating the timeshare units. The initial obstacle is getting the financing to start the project.
Commissioner Segall asked about the density. Mr. Neu stated that the timeshares are not counted as a
residential unit but as a commercial living unit
Chairperson Anderson asked about the parking turnaround. Mr. Geldert stated that the design meets the
parking standards. Chairperson Anderson asked about compact parking closer to the wall and will ask the
applicant. Chairperson Anderson asked about cleaning of the garage and that water is not allowed to be
used. Mr. Geldert stated that there are strict water quality requirements, but the water can be contained by
someone with equipment to make sure the water is not allowed to wash out into the storm drain system.
Chairperson Anderson stated that it looked like the cages for the parking elevator were open and the car
could roll out. Mr. Geldert stated that the car would be contained.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked about the compact parking spaces. Mr. Neu stated they are not required
to provide compact parking but that the Village Master Plan allows for it. The Council wants to continue to
permit compact parking space allowance.
Commissioner Segall asked about the width of the driveway. Mr. Fisher responded that it is 24 feet wide
and it is standard on both floors. Commissioner Segall asked about the turnaround. Mr. Geldert explained
that it was to allow cars to turn around if needed.
Commissioner Goyarts stated that he likes the architectural design but is concerned about the density and
mixed use. Mr. Neu explained that with the Village Master Plan the goal was to obtain many different kinds
of housing for residents and visitors, as well as different types of parking.
Commissioner Segall asked about EV stations. Mr. Fisher stated it is not part of the building code
requirements at this time. Mr. Neu added the General Plan added goals/policies for that. Commissioner
Segall asked is it appropriate to condition it now? Mr. Neu responded that it could be possible to require
that conduit be installed for future use.
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Chairperson Anderson asked if there any further questions of the staff. Seeing none, she asked if the
applicant wished to make a presentation.
Kirk Moeller from MAA Architects, 2173 Sulk Ave., Ste. 250, Carlsbad, made a brief presentation.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Chairperson Anderson stated her concern about rolling off the lift. Mr. Moeller assured her that the car
would pull in and the gate would roll down. The car would need to be in park so the car would not roll off.
Commissioner L'Heureux mentioned his concern with the power and lights going out while someone was
in their car going up or down the lift. Mr. Moeller stated that the generator will kick in immediately. There
is emergency lighting as well in the building. Commissioner L'Heureux asked about the maintenance to
the generator. Mr. Moeller responded that the generator maintenance is part of the purchase of the lift.
Chairperson Anderson is concerned about financing and owner occupancy rates. Mr. Moeller stated he
has not had the financing discussion. The potential of having the cash to build it is there. There are
concerns about eliminating the timeshares. Mr. Moeller's understanding is that renters will be here for
several weeks and not one night at a time. Chairperson Anderson stated that there would be an onsite
office and asked if there would be a full-time employee on site. He expressed that there would be an office
onsite but whether a full-time employee will be onsite will be based on how much use the timeshare
component is experiencing. He expressed there would need to be someone onsite to hand out keys
and to help with the lift if needed.
Mr. Neu stated the Village Plan allows hotels in this district. If Timeshares aren't successful they could
convert to hotel rooms.
Commissioner L'Heureux stated his concerns with mixing ownership and timeshares. Will timeshare
owners be a part of the HOA? Mr. Moeller stated that the CC&Rs will be one document with two distinct
sections with separate rules governing their use. I don't know if we could generate a condition separating
the two.
Commissioner Segall asked about the common areas. Mr. Moeller said that they will be used by both
owners and timeshare renters. Commissioner Segall asked about providing the EV stations. Mr. Moeller
said there would be no issues with adding EV stations.
Commissioner Black continued the subject of electric vehicles asking about others parking in those spaces
who do not have electric vehicles. That would be an annoyance factor as is the time the lift takes to go up
and back down. Mr. Moeller stated that they have looked at the time and the maximum it would take for a
single car to travel the cycle would be 2 to 3 minutes. It's hard to anticipate how many people would be
leaving at the same exact time. That was the reasoning of having the owners park on the ground floor so
they could come and go as they wanted. ·
Commissioner Siekmann stated that the lift is just something new that people will have to get used to. You
see the lift and you make yo!Jr choice to buy knowing that the lift could take extra time. I think it's a fabulous
idea, and theyare high-end condos. ·
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked
if any person in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, Chairperson Anderson opened
and closed public testimony on Agenda Item 3.
DISCUSSION
Commissioner Montgomery commented that the parking lift is a good idea. Commissioner Montgomery
doesn't share the same safety concerns as have been mentioned. He doesn't like mixing residential with
timeshares but there's no evidence to suggest it wouldn't be successful. It's allowed. He can agree with
the applicant and can approve the project.
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Commissioner Black thanked staff. Commissioner Black agrees with Commissioner Montgomery. He's
concerned with the stacking up of cars but that is not the city's problem, it's the problem of the owner. He
can approve the project.
Commissioner Goyarts likes the architecture, but still has open questions. Once those questions are
researched and comes through to the Planning Commission again he could approve it. Commissioner
Goyarts can't approve the project tonight.
Commissioner Siekmann loves the project and doesn't have any problems with the lift. She can support
the project and hopes it is approved. Good job staff.
Commissioner L'Heureux thinks this is a very difficult project. Parking on site is a positive. As we want to
bring people in we are providing affordable units. The density is close to the maximum and doesn't see a
benefit from it. Do not believe it's a good policy to mix residential and timeshares in the same project.
Commissioner L'Heureux can't support the project.
Commissioner Segall has concerns with the project but there's compensating factors. She is not thrilled
with parking or the lifts, but the Council says lifts are OK. The Commission has already approved a similar
project so can't approve one and not the other. Mr. Kemp stated the Commission would have to make
findings to support a denial that proves this project is different from another. He thinks it's much better than
what is currently there. He appreciates Mr. Fisher's presentation. He can support the project. Would like
to see a condition regarding conduit for the owners for EV stations. He would like to make a condition to
not rent out for less than a week. Chairperson Anderson asked Mr. Neu if the Commission could do that.
Mr. Neu stated he needs to check the Municipal Code.
Chairperson Anderson stated she's struggled with the project. The architecture is creative and all onsite
parking is good. She is concerned about the property turning into a hotel, the safety of the lift, and the
financing. Since there seems to be no guarantee of full-time staff, no one would be there to monitor the
use. Chairperson Anderson can't support the project.
Mr. Neu asked the Chairperson if he and Mr. Kemp could confer over a short recess to see if there can be
a condition for timeshare units to not rent out for less than a week.
Commissioner Segall asked staff if the Fire Department had reviewed this and had no life safety issues or
concerns with the lift and cars rolling off. Mr. Fisher stated that they reviewed the plans and wanted the
generator added.
Just for clarity, Mr. Kemp asked if the 42-inch gate would be capable of holding a rolling car from going off
the lift? Mr. Moeller said a car would have no speed and yes he believes that would be strong enough to
hold the car. Mr. Kemp also asked that if the power went out and the generator kicks in, does the lift
automatically go back down or does it continue to go in the direction it was headed? Mr. Moeller stated
that yes it would continue to travel with no change.
Commissioner Siekmann asked Chairperson Anderson if Commissioner Segall would like to make a motion
and they could all vote on the EV station, then they could get that done. Commissioner Segall wants to be
careful as he doesn't want charging stations for residents but conduit that would allow 220 or 110, 120 or
130 amp circuit. Timeshare should be in one stall so public can use it. Mr. Geldert interjected that the
architect had already stated that there would be conduit to each of the stalls and infrastructure would be
there according to the Green Code which is part of the Building Code.
Mr. Neu clarified about minimum time for rental. He doesn't see anything in the Municipal Code, so we
would see what the Commission wanted to do, and if were a majority that would like to add a condition, we
would take a brief break to determine if there are any legal issues.
Chairperson Anderson asked for a hand vote to put a restriction on the timeshare/short-term rentals. Vote
was 4-3 (Segall, Anderson, Goyarts, L'Heureux).
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MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Chairperson Anderson fot a hand vote to put a restriction on the
timeshare/short-term rentals.
VOTE: 4-3
AYES: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner L'Heureux, and
Commissioner Segall
NOES: Commissioners Black, Montgomery and Siekmann
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairperson Anderson called a recess at 8:41 for Mr. Kemp and Mr. Neu to confer on the matter.
Chairperson .Anderson called the Planning Commission to order at 8:55.
Mr. Kemp stated there was nothing in the code that would prevent the Commission from adding a condition.
We just ask that Commissioner Segall state his reasons for the motion. Once the motion is made the
Commission can vote on the item.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked for clarification from Mr. Neu regarding hotel vs. timeshare commercial
living unit.
Commissioner Siekmann would like to hear from the applicant. The applicant stated he has no concerns
with conditioning the project to require a minimum stay of one week for all timeshare units.
Commissioner Segall made a motion for amendment to make the minimum one week for the timeshare
because of the compatibility of having it rented out for one night would be incompatible to protect the owner
occupied units.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked if one week or 7 days. Mr. Kemp stated that it would be 7 consecutive
days.
MOTION
ACTION:
VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner Black That the
Planning Commission adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 7152
recommending approval of Tentative Tract Map CT 15-06 and Major Village Review
Permit RP 15-07 to the City Council based on the findings and subject to the
conditions contained therein, including the addition to the conditions requirement that
the minimum length of stay for the timeshare units is 7 consecutive days.
4-3
Commissioners Black, Montgomery, Siekmann, and Segall
Chairperson Anderson, Commissioners L'Heureux and Goyarts
None
ABSTAIN: None
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Chairperson Anderson closed the public hearing on Agenda Item 3, asked Mr. Neu to introduce the next
item and opened the public hearing on Agenda Item 4.
4. SP 180(1)-CARLSBAD RESEARCH CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT FOR
LOT 75 -Request for a recommendation of approval of a Specific Plan Amendment to
include a new land use category (Area 2c-Light Industrial/Commercial Tourist) that would
allow a commercial hotel and related business traveler uses on Lot 75 of the Carlsbad
Research Center Specific Plan with the approval of a Conditional Use Permit. The property
is generally located on the southwest corner of Faraday Avenue and Van Allen Way within
the Carlsbad Research Center and in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. The City
Planner has determined that this project is exempt from the requirements of the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to Section 15061 (8)(3) (General Rule) and
City of Carlsbad Municipal Code Chapter 19.04.070(A)(1 )(c), minor municipal code
amendments that do not involve physical modifications or lead to physical improvements
beyond those typically exempt.
Mr. Neu introduced Agenda Item 4 and stated Associate Planner Greg Fisher would make the staff
presentation.
Mr. Fisher gave a brief presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Black asked if it will be a hotel for sure. Mr. Fisher responded that this project only allows
another land use on the site.
Paul Klukas, Planning Systems, 1530 Faraday Ave., Suite 100, Carlsbad, gave a brief presentation and
stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Commissioner Goyarts asked about the occupancy rates of the hotels. Mr. Neu responded.
Chairperson Anderson asked about the timeframe. Mr. Klukas stated he did not know. Mr. Neu stated it
typically is a yearly average: Lower occupancy rates tend to be November thru January.
Commissioner Segall suggested enhancing the signage allowance at the Islands at Carlsbad located
adjacent to the project site.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked
if any person in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, Chairperson Anderson opened
and closed public testimony on Agenda Item 4.
DISCUSSION
Commissioner Montgomery stated he can support the project.
Commissioner Black stated he can support the resolution.
Commissioner Goyarts stated he cari support the resolution.
Commissioner Siekmann stated she can support the project.
Commissioner L'Heureux can support the project and also added that the commission would like real
economic data to support a hotel in the staff report if a hotel project is proposed in the future.
Commissioner Segall can support the motion.
Chairperson Anderson stated she can support the project.
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MOTION
ACTION:
VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner L'Heureux that
the Planning Commission adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 7153
recommending approval of Specific Plan Amendment SP 180(1), based on the
findings and subject to the conditions contained therein.
7-0
Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner
L'Heureux, Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner
Siekmann
None
None
None
Chairperson Anderson closed the public hearing on Agenda Item 4, asked Mr. Neu to introduce the next
item and opened the public hearing on Agenda Item 5.
5. SOP 15-20-QUARRY CREEK PLANNING AREA P-3-Request for a determination that
the project is within the scope of the previously certified Quarry Creek Master Plan
Environmental Impact Report (EI R 11-02) and approval of a Site Development Plan for the
development of a common recreation facility to serve Quarry Creek Planning Areas R-3
and R-4 that includes a 2,281 square foot recreation building, swimming pool, passive park
area, and parking on 1.3 acres located north of Marron Road, south of Adobe Springs
Road, and west of El Saito Falls Street in Local Facilities Management Zone 25.
Mr. Neu introduced Agenda Item 5 and stated Senior Planner Christer Westman would make the staff
presentation.
Mr. Westman gave a brief presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Montgomery felt that construction of the recreation area is more appropriate at the middle
of the project instead of at the end.
Commissioner Goyarts asked about the HOA fees. Mr. Westman stated that question would be more
appropriately answered by the applicant.
Jack Robson, Cornerstone Communities, explained the financing of the recreation amenities. He doesn't
have a problem with the errata, the homeowners will have an issue.
Chairperson Anderson asked if a builder ever subsidizes the maintenance. Mr. Robson stated they could
but those costs would be absorbed by the homeowners.
Commissioner Segall asked what fees would be at the beginning rather than at completion. Mr. Robson
did not come with that information but thought it would be around $550 per month.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked if they are suggesting a different number in those 3 phases. Mr. Robson
suggested the recreation center at the 881h occupancy, the pool at the 163rd occupancy, and the rest at the
288th occupancy.
Chairperson Anderson asked what the assessment would be without the facilities. Mr. Robson stated he
wasn't prepared to answer that.
Commissioner Siekmann asked if the project was phased based on what he thought people would qualify
for. Mr. Robson stated yes.
Mr. Neu explained the reasoning for proposing the phasing for the recreation center.
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Commissioner Siekmann asked if this information is given to the buyers. Mr. Robson stated yes.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked about time difference between the 551h and 881h units. Mr. Robson stated
that they typically sell 4 units per month.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked
if any person in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, Chairperson Anderson opened
and closed public testimony on Agenda Item 6.
DISCUSSION
Commissioner Montgomery stated that Quarry Creek was approved as a master plan with certain
requirements. He can approve the project with the errata sheet proposed timing for the improvements.
Commissioner Black stated he concurs with Commissioner Montgomery.
Commissioner Goyarts can support the project.
Commissioner Siekmann understands the higher association fees but agrees with Commissioner
Montgomery. Commissioner Siekmann can approve the project with the errata sheet.
Commissioner L'Heureux can support the concept of phasing the project. Mr. Westman explained the
reasoning for the occupancy. He supports staff's recommendations for the errata sheet.
Commissioner Segall can support staff's recommendation. Commissioner Segall can support the project.
Chairperson Anderson has sympathy for the first buyers with the high HOA. Chairperson Anderson can
support the project without the errata sheet and go with what the developer suggested.
MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Segall and duly seconded by Commissioner Siekmann that
the Planning Commission adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 7154
approving Site Development Plan (SDP 15-20) based on the findings and subject to
the conditions contained therein.
VOTE: 7-0
AYES: Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner
L'Heureux, Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner
Siekmann
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairperson Anderson closed the public hearing on Agenda Item 5,
MOTION
ACTION: Motion to extend the meeting to 11:00 by Commissioner L'Heureux and duly
seconded by Commissioner Segall
VOTE: 4-3
AYES:
NOES:
Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Black, Commissioner Montgomery,
Commissioner Segall
Commissioner Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner Siekmann
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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Chairperson Anderson asked Mr. Neu to introduce the next item and opened the public hearing on Agenda
Item 6.
6. SDP 15-17-QUARRY CREEK PA R-1 -Request for a determination that the project is
within the scope of the previously certified Quarry Creek Master Plan Environmental Impact
Report (EIR 11-02) and approval of a Site Development Plan for the development of 5
multi-family buildings for 64 affordable rental residential units within Planning Area R-1
within the Quarry Creek Master Plan on property located south of Haymar Drive and west
of future private Street A in the Quarry Creek Master Plan in Local Facilities Management
Zone 25.
Mr. Neu introduced Agenda Item 6 and stated Senior Planner Christer Westman would make the staff
presentation.
Mr. Westman gave a brief presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Siekmann asked Mr. Neu to explain the email the commission received. Mr. Neu explained
that the email was about changes to the state density bonus laws and changing maximum parking rates.
That particular legislation doesn't apply to this project.
Commissioner Goyarts asked about what benefits do the residents get in lieu of the parking? Mr. Westman
explained that in order to provide additionalparking, the plans would need to be changed by cutting back
the slope and installing retaining walls so it would be a loss of landscape or a loss of units if the additional
parking spaces were to be provided.
Chairperson Anderson commented that at this point it would be nice. to hear from the applicant.
Ron Brockhoff, Chelsea Development Corporation, addressed the commission with regards to parking.
They will be providing 117 spaces for parking. Historically, the demand will only be to use 95 of those
spaces. The balance of those are dedicated to visitors and staff.
Chairperson Anderson asked about covered parking. Mr. Brockhoff stated they do quite a lot of solar when
they are able to finance it. They don't feel the need to build carports because the climate doesn't dictate it,
plus it costs more which requires financing. Chairperson Anderson asked if carports could be installed
later. Mr. Brockhoff stated that they have on a few occasions.
Commissioner Segall asked about EV stations. Mr. Brockhoff stated that they will have EV station
provisions for future stations.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked if the standards modification is not granted, it would put the project in a
bind. Mr. Brockhoff replied that they would have to build a very expensive retaining wall into the slope, or
reconfigure the buildings and probably build all 3 story buildings to accommodate for additional parking
spaces. It would be very detrimental to the project.
Mr. Kemp st~ted that an agenda bill was going before the Council on the 22nd requesting a loan for this
project which will be providing affordable income housing, and they are aiming to provide it to the 50th and
60th percentile of the annual medium income and making it more affordable as to what the requirement has
been. The Project Manager from Chelsea Investment Corporation stated that was correct.
Commissioner Siekmann commented that the first two projects coming out of Quarry Creek are totally
different than what was approved. Mr. Neu responded that the standards modifications process is geared
toward affordable housing projects. Mr. Kemp also stated that by approving the waiver of modification, the
City of Carlsbad would gain meeting their regional housing needs assessment by making even more
housing affordable to the residents of Carlsbad.
Sherri Hoffman, Chelsea Development, wanted to confirm that they would never bring a project forward
assuming that it would be approved.
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Chairperson Anderson asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked
if any person in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, Chairperson Anderson opened
and closed public testimony on Agenda Item 6.
DISCUSSION
Commissioner Montgomery likes the architecture, the articulation; can support the project. Commissioner
Montgomery can't make a finding to not require covered spaces.
Commissioner Black doesn't have any problems with reducing the parking. He is comfortable with no
covered spaces but would like to see it installed in the future.
Commissioner Goyarts can support the project.
Commissioner Siekmann agrees with Commissioner Montgomery with the covered parking. Commissioner
Siekmann can support the parking standards modifications but would like to keep the covered parking.
Commissioner L'Heureux had concerns but the key fact is the developer, who provides high quality projects.
He can support the parking reduction; for the covered parking he would like to see that maintained.
Commissioner Segall can support the project with both modifications.
Chairperson Anderson agrees with other commissioners about the covered parking.
MOTION
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Siekmann to include 64 covered spaces. Seconded by
Commissioner Montgomery
VOTE: 5-2
AYES:
NOES:
Chairperson Anderson, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner L'Heureux,
Commissioner Montgomery and Commissioner Siekmann
Commissioners Black and Segall
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION.
ACTION:
VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Motion by Commissioner Segall to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 7151
approving Site Development Plan SOP 15-17 based on the findings and subject to
the conditions contained therein including the amendment including the 64 covered
parking spots. Seconded by Commissioner Siekmann.
7-0
Chairperson Anderson, Commission Black, Commissioner Goyarts, Commissioner
L'Heureux, Commissioner Montgomery, Commissioner Segall and Commissioner
Siekmann
None
None
ABSTAIN: None
COMMISSION COMMENTS
None.
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CITY PLANNER COMMENTS
Mr. Neu stated that they will go ahead with the April 61h meeting to provide an update of the revisions to the
Village and Barrio Master Plan.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion, the Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission of March 16, 2016 was adjourned at
11:00p.m.
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DON NEU
City Planner
Tammy McMinn
Minutes. Clerk