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CITY OF CARLSBAD
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TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
January 3, 1983
3:OO p.m.
City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Kantor at 3:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present - Commissioners Arthur Kantor, William Harkins, Robert Wood,
Jeff Punches, Police Chief Vincent Jimno and Larry Dossey.
Absent - Commissioner Bill Baldwin.
Also present were:
Mr. Roy Kackley, City Engineer
Mr. Ron Beckman, Assistant City Manager,
Deve 1 opmen ta 1 Services
Mr. Panker, 3515 Trieste Drive, Carlsbad
Mr. Juarez, 4120 Park Drive, Carlsbad
Item #l. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held December 6, 1982, were approved as
presented.
MOTION: Wood
AYES : Kantor, Harkins, Wood and Dossey
NOES: None
ABSTAIN : Punches and Jimno
Item #2. PARK DRIVE - SPEED ZONING
Mr. Juarez, 4120 Park Drive, Carlsbad, is concerned about speeding cars
on Park Drive between Hillside and Adams. At this time, Park Drive, between
Hillside and Adams, does not meet the qualifications to be legally defined
as a residential street. In the future, this area will become a residential
street, due to zoning on each side. There is a steep slope to the north of
this area. A speed study was done and the critical speed was 40 MPH for
northbound and southbound traffic. Staff has prepared a formal document
recommending 25 MPH speeding on this street. It is necessary to post this
area at other than the critical speed.
The Commission approved the staff recommendation to post 25 MPH speeding
on this street.
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MOTION: Jim0
AYES : Kanto, Harkins, Wood, Punches, Jimno and Dossey
NOES : None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Juarez declined the invitation to address the Commission.
Item #4. EL CAMINO REAL AND PLAZA/MARRON - TRAFFIC CONGESTION
Mr. Panker, 3515 Trieste Drive, Carlsbad, is concerned about the heavy
traffic on El Camino mal, near the May Company. He recommended an inter-
connect system, as well as a new on-ramp on Haymar, east of the Center.
Traffic is congested in this area during the Holidays. This area may be
avoided by using Jefferson Street/Marron Road/Monroe Street. The City is
in the process of implementing an interconnect system on El Camino Real for
Plaza/Marron Road/Hosp Way. This should relieve the traffic congestion.
Staff has previously tried to work with the State and Oceanside on the
mutual problem. In the near future, the off-ramp at the intersection of
Jefferson/Marron and the Freeway will require upgrading. At that time,
the whole pattern should be reviewed.
Mr. Panker, 3515 Trieste Drive, Carlsbad, addressed the Commission. He
stated theproblemexists all the time, not just at the Holidays. The on-
ramp on Haymar would be the responsibility of the State. He felt the
ingress-egress should be a right-turn only. Stated that during the Holidays
the parking attendants were pushing the traffic out onto the street and he
personally sat through five red lights without moving. Finally, in despera-
tion, he got out of his car and waved cars through the red lights. He feels
Haymar should be opened and a right-turn only out of the Center. Chairman
Kantor asked Mr. Panker if he had put this recommendation in writing and
submitted it. Mr. Panker said he had not. Commissioner Dossey agreed that
there is some problem and felt Mr. Panker's suggestions should be studied.
Police Chief Jimno stated there was no problem until the North County
Shopping Center opened. Carlsbad's signals are fairly well-timed. However,
two years ago the poice monitored this area and found that the signal
controlled the traffic better than the police. The rush hours are also
becoming a problem. This is an indicationof the North County growth.
are a lot of retired people in this area and they drive between 40-45 MPH.
Mr. Panker felt a clock-wise flow of traffic would help alleviate the congestion.
There
The Commission accepted the recommendation of the staff with the following
changes :
The Commission should recommend that the City Manager and/or City Council
direct staff to contact the State and Oceanside and attempt to work out a
joint solution to the problem of congestion in the area.
MOTION : Wood
AYES : Kantor, Harkins, Wood, Punches, Jimno and DoSSey
NOES : None
ABSTAIN: None
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Item #3. TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE/COMMISSION
It is proposed that the Commission be reconstituted as a citizens' group as
suggested by the Council.
by a Traffic Coordinating Committee made up of those department heads most
concerned with traffic safety. This Committee would review items and make
recommendations prior to placement on the Commission agenda.
Staff support of the Commission would be provided
Mr. Roy Kackley, City Engineer, addressed the Commission. This plan is one
that is in operation in St. Joseph, Missouri, where Mr. Kackley was employed
prior to his coming to Carlsbad. He explained this plan is along the lines
the Council would like to see.
The Commission discussed this proposal at length, with Commissioner Harkins
stating that all matters brought to the Traffic Coordinating Committee must
come before the Traffic Safety Commission. He does not want the Committee
to become a censor and decide what items could appear on the agenda and what
would be deleted.
Mr. Kackley assured the Commission that the staff would be remiss if it did
not tell the Commission of citizens' complaints received and did not present
these complaints with a full report of the objective information for the
Commission's consideration.
Mr. Beckman also assured the Commission that the Committee would not delete
any items, but would provide the Commission with the proper information in
their staff report.
Mr, Kackley advised that staff recommended that the Assistant City Manager/
Development Services be an ex-officio member of the Commission, without vote,
thus providing a tie to the staff.
Mr, Beckman said this would be nothing more than exists now; that anyone can
talk to the City Council or the Commission.
Commission has the correct information on any proposal or complaint.
They just want to insure the
Commissioner Punches felt this would be a duplication of work and Police Chief
Jimno felt this would be doing the same thing twice.
Mr. Beckman stated the Commission does not have to approve staff's recommen-
dations. If they decide to act on staff's recommendations, fine; if not, they
take whatever action they deem proper.
Commissioner Harkins stated he wanted to be certain it is a citizens' commission
and not a city commission.
Commissioner Woods commented on the private citizen walking in the door to
appear before the Commission.
or proposal and telling the staff to prepare a report on the matter for review
at a later meeting.
That would be handled by hearing the complaint
Mr. Beckman told the Commission they would be given a list of all matters before
the Committee,
the details.
Stated the ordinance should be rather crisp and then work out
You must adopt your own by-laws.
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The Commission accepted the recommendation of staff and forwarded same to
the City Council with the recommendationthat the Council accept it.
MOTION : Wood
AYES : Kantor, Harkins, Wood, Punches, Jimno and Dossey
NOES : None
ABSTAIN: None
INFORMATION ITEM
Truck Parking on El Camino Real
Commissioner Dossey stated they will post "no parking" signs. Have not
posted all of El Camino Real.
will be €or both sides of El Camino Real.
This will be done on a complaint basis. This
Police Chief Jimno commented that the trucks will no doubt move their parking
area to the south side of Tamarack, which is not in the City's jurisdiction.
Commissioner Woods stated that it is different trucks - not all one company -
so they must have an aprtment near there that they share.
ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 4:06 p.m.
MOTION : Wood
AYES : Kantor, Harkins, Wood, Punches, Jimno and Dossey
NOES : None
ABSTAIN : None
Respectfully s
Traffic Safety Commission
Harriett Babbitt, Minutes Clerk