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Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: 3une 6, 1988
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Erwin called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present -- Chairman Erwin, Commissioners Fuller and
Herring. Commissioner O'Day arrived at
3:13 p.m.
Absent -- Commissioner Melideo.
Staff Members Present: Bob gohnson, Principal Civil Engineer
Mike Shirey, Engineering Tech I1
Officer Shipley, Police Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the Meeting held April 4, 1988, were
approved as amended to change Alternative 113 to Alternative 85 on page 4, fourth paragraph, and to add that by
consensus the Commission agreed a continuous left-turn lane
was necessary on La Costa Avenue from Calle Madero to the
commercial area located easterly of El Camino Real.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
No one was present to speak before the Commission.
OLD BUSINESS:
Bob 3ohnson reported the Commission had requested copies of
the 1987 Vehicle Code, and those had been supplied to the
Commissioners. He commented that Section 22350, the Basic
Speed Law, had been omitted in the printing of the Code,
but it is still applicable and on the books.
Mr. 3ohnson stated the La Costa Avenue striping will go to
Council on 3une 14 for approval.
The Elm Avenue/Chatham issue has been resolved for the time
being.
will meet with her or him next 3uly to discuss this.
the present time, the police have been observing the
students and taking names and giving them to the Principal
to contact the parents. This seems to be working, as most
of the children are now using the suggested route to school
and there have been no more complaints from the parents.
The request for a crossing guard at Chatham has been
dropped.
There will be a new Principal next year and staff
At
NEW BUSINESS:
A.
speed limit easterly of El Camino Real.
Tamarack Avenue - Request to establish prima facie
Bob 3ohnson gave the staff presentation as contained in the
staff report.
Traffic Safety Commission adopted the recommendation of the
Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a 45
mile per hour prima facie speed limit between El Camino
Real and Elm Avenue and a 35 mile per hour prima facie
speed limit from Elm Avenue to Harwich Drive.
Erwin
Fuller
Herring
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Fuller
Herring
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
6. limit from Park Drive to Neblina Drive.
Hillside Drive - Request to establish prima facie speed
Bob Johnson gave the staff report as contained in the
packet, stating the Coordinating Committee felt the 35
mile per hour sign should be moved farther to the west,
ending at Neblina.
Traffic Safety Commission adopted the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a
35 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on Hillside Drive
between Park Drive and Neblina Drive.
C. Commissioner's Handbook - Review and discuss.
Bob Johnson called attention to the Commissioner's Handbook
which had been distributed to all Commissioners. He
pointed out this handbook had been updated and he read the
scope of responsibility for this Commission, continuing
with the comment that City Council was the only body that
could direct staff to perform any work.
Mr. 3ohnson called attention to the section on the Brown
Act and added this Commission was familiar with that and
staff does comply with the requirements of the Act by
posting the Agenda of this Commission's meetings on the
board outside of the Council Chambers at least 72 hours in
advance. He concluded, stating no action was necessary by
the Commission.
Commissioner Fuller commented about Section 2.28 having been
amended to insert "pedestrian" in several places, and the
insert was not the amended version. Mr. 3ohnson stated a
new Section 2.28 would be supplied to each of the
Commissioners.
In answer to query about the name of the Commission being
changed, Mr. 3ohnson stated he had thought perhaps the
Commission should be the Transportation Advisory Commission and he asked the Commissioners to give this some
thought before the next meeting.
D. Traffic Signal Evaluation Policy - Review and adopt.
Bob Johnson stated this was a policy that staff had been
working on since 1986. A number of intersections were
evaluated and some of those have been completed and some
are under design at this time.
Mr. 3ohnson said this policy was based on similar
procedures used by Escondido and San Diego.
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee felt a traffic
signal evaluation policy was needed and within that policy
would be a qualifying list of signals. This would
establish procedures by which signals would be evaluated and placed on a list for future capital improvement
programs.
of signals by certain citizens. The CalTrans warrants
would still have to be met and those warrants were included
in the appendix of the report.
This would eliminate some of the random asking
Erwin
Fuller
Herring
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. 3ohnson explained this policy would assist staff in
explaining why a signal could not be installed at the request of interested parties, but could be placed on the
list in the order of priority.
certain signal. would have to wait until its turn,
especially if special conditions existed which would
change the order of priority for a particular
intersection.
That did not mean a
Commissioner Fuller stated he would like to know what
CalTrans warrants had been met for the chart on page 7 of
the report. Mike Shirey gave the following information:
Chestnut Avenue/Pio Pic0 Drive; warrants 1, 7, 8 and 9.
Carlsbad Boulevard/State State: warrants 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8,
9 and 11.
Chestnut Avenue/Monroe Street; warrant 7. La Costa Avenue/Piraeus Street; warrants 2, 9 and 11.
El Camino Real/Costa Del Mar Road: warrants 2, 6, 8, 9 and
11.
Tamarack Avenue/Highland Drive; warrants 2, 7, 8, 9 and
11.
Tamarack Avenue/Garfield Street; warrants 6 and 7.
Alga Road/Cazadero Drive; warrant 8.
El Camino Real/Rancho Carlsbad Drive; warrants 2, 9 and
11.
Mr. 3ohnson further stated this policy would be updated
yearly or by-yearly, and is needed to lock in a method for
explaining how the traffic signals are installed.
Chairman Erwin stated he felt it would be a mistake for
this Commission and the City Council to vote on this
proposal.
input from staff, police, public, the Traffic Safety
Commission and the City Council and to vote on this
proposal would surrender part of the freedom of each of
those individual parts.
He felt traffic decisions are made based on
Mr. Erwin believed this would be the best policy to
follow, but should be only a guide and not an adopted
policy
Commissioner Fuller stated this would be recognized as a
policy, and policies are always subject to exceptions.
Staff or this Commission could recommend an exception at
any time.
Commissioner O'Day felt this would give Council more
flexlbility, as requests for signals are usually emotional
issues and Council has nothing to rely on for a basis, and
would take some of the pressure away from such requests.
He suggested a paragraph could be included stating signals could be put in for other reasons, but he felt a policy
was necessary.
Commissioner Fuller added that with this policy, the Commission would look harder at requests. He concurred
that a policy was necessary.
Mr. 3ohnson said that staff does need guidelines to follow
when requests for signals are received.
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3une 6, 1988 TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION Page 4 COMMISSIONERS
NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Commissioner Herring agreed guidelines were necessary to
help control citizen requests for signals.
Traffic Safety Commission endorsed the Traffic Signal
Evaluation Policy as presented.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Fuller requested the installation of a 25
miles per hour speed limit sign on Park Drive west of
Kelly, as there is no sign for traffic heading west.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob 3ohnson reminded the Commissioners that the terms of
Commissioners Erwin, Herring and Melideo will expire in
3uly.
City Clerk with their desire to be re-appointed or not.
He asked the Commissioners to submit a letter to the
Mr. Johnson reported Mike Shirey had made a presentation to
SANDAG and had gotten $10,000 allocated for a sidewalk
inventory program.
and missing links, with schools as the first priority.
This inventory will include new ones
Mr. 3ohnson stated the 3uly Traffic Safety Commission
meeting would fall on July 4, 1988.
held the second Monday of the month, July 11, 1988, at 3:OO
p.m., in the Council Chambers.
The meeting will be
AD30URNMENT:
By proper motion, the 3une 6, 1988, Meeting was adjourned
at 4:16 p.m.
i-farriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
Erwin
Fuller
Herring
0 I Day
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