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Meetlna of: TRAFF C SAFETY COMMISSION
Time 07 MeetBng: 3:OO p.m.
Date of MeetFng: November 6, 1989
Place of Meettng: Cjty Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Melldeo called the Meetfng to order at
3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present -- Commissloners Melideo, Fuller, Herring,
O'Day and Stachovlak.
Absent -- None.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engfneer
Sgt. Carpenter, Police
Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the Meeting held October 2, 1989, were
approved as presented.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commfsslon on a
non-agend a 1 tern
OLD BUSINESS:
Bob Johnson reported that an additlonal street name
slign had been Instal led at Sunny Hi I1 and Tamarack, so
both are vlsible from Tamarack.
Mr. Johnson sald the traffic signals on Tamarack have
been energ Fzed .
Commissioner Ful ler asked for clarlf FcatFon on the Adams
Street width varlance, and Mr. Johnson said the Planning
Commisslon approved the varlance and Alternate D. Mr.
Fuller suggested the Minutes of the,Plannlng Commtsslon
be more specifFc wl'th regard to exactly what had been
approved.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Hosp Way - Request to establish an all-way STOP at
the ?ntersections of Wintergreen Drlve
and at Forest V iew Way.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, using an aerial map
to show the area. He stated that each street
lntersectlng Hosp Way Is controlIed by a stop slgn, wfth
the speed limit on Hosp Way of 35 miles per hour. There
have been no lntersectlon colllsfons at the subject
intersections 'Tn the three-year period begtnnlng January 1, 1987.
Mr. Johnson explained the purpose of stop slgns and the
types of acctdents that can be caused by Fnstal! Ing
unwarranted slgns. The trafflc volumes on these streets
do not warrant stop slgns, and instalfatfon of stop
sfgns would not necessarily slow the trafffc.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Cont i nued 1
Mr. Johnson referred to the CalTrans Traffic Manual and
reviewed the Pol icy for Stop Stgns and Yield SFgns,
showtng a transparency and referring to the copy In the staff report.
Mr . Johnson conc 1 uded, stat 1 ng the Coord i nat i ng
Comm i ttee had recommended den 1 a 1 of the requests and had 1 ssued a work order to Uti I ities/Maintenance Department
to install an "Intersection Ahead" sign and a 25 mile
per hour advisory speed limlt sjgn at the westbound
approach to the Forest View Way Intersection. A trafflc
s lgna I has been des lgned for the Wintergreen
Intersectlon, but wlll not be installed unttl trafftc
warrants are met.
In response to Comrnlssion queries regardfng the trafflc
slgnal and sight dlstance at Forest Park Lane, Mr.
Johnson answered that the traffic signal was a condition
on a development for that area, but wl I I not be
installed untll warrants are met sometime tn the future.
Mr. Johnson saSd he had noticed the trees and bushes at
Forest Vrew Way, but staff felt the homeowners would
object Pf those were removed. He said sight dlstance
was stlfl possfble, but Is limited due to the curve.
That was the reason for the advlsory stgn fnstallatson
tn that area.
Courtney Herneman, Manager of the Car I sbad-Woodr Ydge
Homeowners AssocfatFon, referred to hTs letter to Mr.
Johnson dated August 29, 1989, with the petitlons of
nearly a1 1 of the 126 homeowners. He sald the residents
were taking their Itves in their hands every time they
exit on to Hosp Grove.
going to protect their safety. Mr. Heineman also stated
that perhaps the advisory sFgn would slow the traffic
down, but the speed is the dangerous issue. He stated
the residents did not want trees and bushes cut down
a I ong Hosp Way.
He asked how the CmmlssFon was
Shirley Lankford, 2830 Forest Vlew Way, spoke In
oppositfon to the requests for stop signs, stating that
she d id not want to 1 isten to the squea I ing of brakes.
She felt there should be more pollcl'ng 'In the area to
slow the traffic down and added that the speedFng Is
done by the tenants of the apartment complex up the
road.
Mr. HePneman stated that he knew of at least one accident
in that area that was not Ilsted on the Pollce report.
In reply to Commission query about more vlsiblllity of the Pol Ice Department, Sgt. Carpenter rep1 led that there
are on ly six off icers that can be used , and those are
put In the areas where there is the highest number of
acctdents and most traff ic.
Chairperson Mel ideo commented that the add Ftlon of the advlsory s'lgn should help slow the traff IC.
CommissFoner O'Day refterated that stop slgns do not
I ower the accident rate, but somet lmes 1 ncrease them.
He also suggested that the homeowner associations can
take part In warnPng the residents of a problem in their
area and ask ng them to be cautious.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
The Traff'lc Safety Commlsslon accepted the recommendatFon
of the Ttafflc Safety Coordlnatfng Commlttee to deny the
request for all-way STOP sfgns at Forest Vlew Way and
Wintergreen Dr'lve at Hosp Way.
B. Calle Barcelona - Request to establish a NO PARKING
zone from Rancho Santa Fe Road to Calle San FelPpe.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, usfng a transparency to
show the school site and the proposed area for the NO
PARKING zone. He stated that staff was recommmendlng thls
action before the Mlsslon Estancla School opens, to avold
the problems that normally occur in front of a school.
Parents w?ll park and double-park across the street from
the school and al low thelr ch F ldren to run across the
street, creatlng a safety hazard. Staff feels by creatlng
this NO PARKING zone now, there wFll be no problem when
the school opens in January.
Cornmissloner O'Day stated thfs school would be In the
Enclnltas Dlstrlct and there would be more buses for the
chl Idren, el lmlnating sme of the vehicle traffic and
congestfon; also there was a turn-around system onsite
that was falrly wetl-designed. He felt that should be
glven a chance to work before restrlctlng the parklng,
and felt the request was premature.
Mr. Johnson rebterated the problems caused by chlldren
runnlng across the streets In front of schools, and satd
that staff was hoping to avold the problem In this
Instance. He added that by el Fm4natlng the parklng,
blcyc\e lanes could be palnted on both stdes of the
street.
The TraffFc Safety Commlssion accepted the
recmmendationn of the Traff'ic Safety Coordinating
Committee to establlsh a NO PARKING zone on both sides of
Calle Barcelona from Rancho Santa Fe Road to Calle San
Fe 1 Fpe.
C. Safety Center - Request to establ'lsh a TWO-HOUR
PARKING zone for eFght parkfng spaces adJacent to
the Safety Center Building.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating that the
Police Chlef had conferred wlth the Fire Chlef and
agreed that the spaces adjacent to the Safety Center
should be avai lable for short-term parklng and c3tlzens
dolng business at the Safety Center.
In answer to Commtssfon query regardtnng the parklng
spaces to the north of the Center, Mr. Johnson safd
those are available for longer parklng. The suggestlon
was made to have a sign lndlicatlng those are public
parkFng spaces.
The Traffic Safety Commlsslon accepted the recomrnendatlon
of the Traffic Safety CoordFnating Commlttee to establlsh
a TWO-HOUR PARKING zone between the hours of 7:OO a.m.
and 5:OO p.m., Monday through Friday, for the elght
parklng spaces westerly of the Safety Center.
not Fnclude the handFcap parklng spaces.
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REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
The Traffic Safety Commission requested a letter be
written to the Personnel Department commending Bob
Johnson and his staff for the professjonal and advance
plannlng done by them, as exhlblted by estabf tshlng a NO
PARKING zone on Calle Barcelona in advance of the
opening of the Misslon Estancia School to forestall the
usual traff Ic problems created by such parking.
Chalrperson Melldeo reported that at the northwest
corner of Tamarack and Jefferson there are several big
pot holes. Mr. Johnson lndlcated staff would dfscuss
this matter wtth the Utlltttes and Maintenance
Department.
Comml ss toner Herr 1 ng thanked Bob Johnson and Sgt.
Carpenter for thelr cooperatton with the Carlsbad Union
Church 7n closing the street for Halloween nlght.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob Johnson reported that electfon of officers would be
on the agenda next month, wfth the selectlon of a Chalrperson and Vlce-Chairperson. Also, after the actlon
fterns have been heard, Asststant City Attorney Ron Ball
wlll be present to conduct a workshop on the Brown Act
requirements and Roberts Rules of Order.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meet
adjourned at 4:08 p.m.
Re3pectfully submitted,
Harriett Babbttt
Minutes Clerk
ng of November 6, 1989, was
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