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Meeting of : TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: February 5, 1990
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
CALL To ORDER:
Chairman Herring called the Meeting to order at 3:03 p.m.
ROLL CAU:
1 Present: Commissioners Herring, Fuller, Melideo and
Stachoviak.
Absent: Commissioner O'Day.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Mike Shirey, Asst. Civil Engineer
I Police Officer Larry Moore
1 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held January 8, 1990, were
approved as presented.
, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
I Thelma Hayes, 580 Laguna Drive, addressed the Commission
stating that next month will be the second anniversary of
the Pedestrian Action Plan and she recommended this be an
agenda item for the Traffic Safety Commission meeting. Mrs
Hayes read from the recommendations of the Pedestrian Actio]
Plan and felt there should be a review to see how Carlsbad
is doing.
Bob Johnson recommended this item be placed on the April
agenda and the Commission concurred.
OLD BUSINESS :
Chairman Herring announced that the Commission was
recognizing one of the Members who has been the Chairperson
of the Traffic Safety Commission for the past year. He rea(
a Resolution of Appreciation for Commissioner Melideo and
presented the Resolution to her.
Bob Johnson stated the Commission had discussed establishin!
its own rules and procedures at the last meeting. He said
he took that matter to the City Council and the Ordinance
was introduced to change that section of the code to allow
the Commission to adopt its own rules and procedures. This
Ordinance will be adopted at the February 6 meeting and wil:
be in effect in 30 days. He said he is marking up the
Planning Commission rules and procedures and hopes to get
that to the subcommittee consisting of Chairman Herring and
Commissioner Stachoviak next week.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Sidewalk Inventory Report - Request for comments and
recommendations.
Bob Johnson referred to the copy of the Sidewalk Inventory
Report Draft copy contained in the packet.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Johnson said he would like the Commission to discuss
this report and continue this matter for at least two months
to enable staff to come up with a construction program. He
said there is $200,000 available for sidewalk construction
and they will take ranking. The first 19 sidewalk locations
would represent approximately $200,000 of construction. Thc
entire report represents a thirty million dollar
construction program. He said that each year it is planned
to put an amount in the C.I.P. to start building the missinc
sidewalks. The developer requirements will not be
satisfied, but if the sidewalks will not be built in the
foreseeable future, then it should be included in the
program.
Mike Shirey, Assistant Civil Engineer, discussed how this
report was formulated. He explained that additional
personnel was hired and a field inventory of every street ir
the City was made, with 289 locations of missing sidewalks
or sidewalk links. Staff came up with an equation that is
given in the report.
Mr. Johnson explained that schools and school areas were
given a high priority, and it does provide a way to compare
one to the other. However, the sidewalks can be constructec
in any order.
Chairman Herring asked that a copy of this report be sent tc
Thelma Hayes, who is the pedestrian representative in
Carlsbad; also a copy should be supplied to Mario Monroy.
Mr. Johnson said this report will be discussed by the
Planning Commission.
Chairman Herring said he would like consideration given to
the church areas, as there are usually older citizens in
those areas and some are in need of sidewalks.
Commissioner Fuller expressed concern about the property
owners adjacent to the proposed sidewalk construction, and
asked how they could be brought into consideration. He felt
those property owners who do not want sidewalks should get
into the rating system. Mr. Johnson said when the
construction program is recommended, that could be
considered.
The Commissioners commended staff on a well-written report
and expressed the hope that it would be put into effect as
soon as possible.
In reply to Commission query, Mr. Johnson stated that the
widening of Tamarack will be on next month's agenda. Staff
has three alternatives for the Commission to study and make
a recommendation. The design of the street should be
complete by summer, with construction early next year.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Thelma Hayes, 480 Laguna, stated she felt some areas not
listed need to be considered; for example, areas near
medical and dental offices where people may arrive by publi
transportation. Those people should be able to get safely
from there to the particular service they are asking for.
Second, in order to improve the use of public
transportation, the bus company has given as a
recommendation a safe walking distance up to 400 feet, and
Mrs. Hayes would like to see that given some weight to
encourage the use of public transportation.
Mrs. Hayes continued, stating that she felt schools should
be given the number one priority, and doesn't want any to b
missed because of a lower priority. She said she thought
Laguna Drive was the second street in the priority ratings,
and now she sees it is at the end of the list. She asked
staff to go through the priority ratings as to how that
street was rated.
Mrs. Hayes said that some of the houses on Tamarack are so
close to the new right-of-way, that those people will not
want the street and sidewalk that close to their houses or
garages and driveways.
Mr. Johnson said there are a number of ways to provide
weighing factors; it is a difficult problem and he stressed
again that there will be a lot of judgment as to which
segment gets built where, and it will not be in
chronological order. He said that some school areas might
have a lower priority due to certain other areas having
higher speeds and a safety problem, which is more critical.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the Sidewalk
Inventory Report in concept and instructed staff to take
into consideration the comments by the Commissioners and ths
public and provide a revision of the report.
B. Park Drive - Request to establish a NO PARKING zone on
the lagoon side.
Bob Johnson gave the staff presentation as included in the
packet, using a transparency to show the street and slides
of the area to show the dirt area and public right-of-way
toward the lagoon and the view from above the street.
Mr. Johnson stated that several sections of the Municipal
Code are a very important factor in this matter; as a
portion of Park Drive qualifies as a residential district
with a 25 mile per hour speed limit. The remaining subject
portion of Park Drive has a prima facie speed limit of 35
miles per hour and is posted.
Curb, gutter and sidewalk improvements have been constructec
along the northerly portion of Park Drive. The lagoon side
of the roadway has not been improved, however, and a wide
dirt area is available in most locations for off-street
parking.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Section 10.40.075 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code restricts
heavy-duty commercial vehicles from parking for more than
three hours in any residential district. If an area does
not qualify as a residential district per the California
Vehicle Code, then CMC Section 10.40.010(a) restricts the
vehicle to a maximum parking duration of 72 hours.
Mr. Johnson stated that a portion of Park Drive does not
qualify as a residential district and the Police Department
cannot monitor a truck for three-hour violations. He added
that staff gets requests constantly from citizens wanting
restrictions for different types of vehicles, and those
requests are referred back to the homeowners associations,
if there is one. Without CC&R's, it is very difficult to
get compliance.
Mr. Johnson said this truck does not constitute a danger or
hazard to the motoring public. He said the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee discussed this matter at length, but
felt this was not a traffic safety matter and that no
restrictions were necessary.
Chairman Herring opened the public testimony period at
3:56 p.m.
Marlene Bacon, 4809 Vigilant Way, the citizen making the
request, addressed the Commission, showing a picture board
to the Commissioners. She asked the Traffic Safety
Commission to clean up Park Drive to restore the natural
beauty of the lagoon and remove the truck blight by
establishing a working ordinance. She said she did not want
a "NO PARKING" sign, but wanted an ordinance that works and
would prevent this on Park Drive--whatever it takes. People
park there and walk to the lagoon, so "NO PARKING" would not
be the solution. There is only one Park Drive and one
lagoon and the City needs to protect and preserve this.
People change the oil in their cars in that area and a
church van has parked there since 1986. Ms. Bacon showed
the size of the 18-wheeler truck and said she wanted the
truck removed.
Chuck Daugherty, 4860 Park Drive, stated he lives in the
single-family development where there is curb-side parking
on the north side of the lagoon where their houses are and
dirt on the other side of the road. There are 15 houses
along there, and most of them utilize that dirt area to par1
cars--especially when they have visitors. He felt it would
be a disservice to the people along Park Drive to have that
declared "NO PARKING" for their vehicles. He said the
church van does move and on weekends there are a number of
cars parked by the tennis courts.
Mr. Daugherty said the lagoon is beautiful and he is more
concerned about the four-wheelers and dirt bikers than the
parking.
Paul Revelle, 4821 Flying Cloud Way, stated he realized the
Commission was concerned with safety issues first and
environmental matters second, but he said he did feel there
is a safety concern with the parking of a rig the size of
this commercial vehicle. He said that there are joggers in
the morning on Park Drive, and they have to either go out
into the street at that point or on the other side of the
truck out of sight of the traffic.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Revelle stated there are no bike lanes on Park Drive
from Kelly through the Bristol Cove area, and ride in the
street. He felt that riding past the van was dangerous and
could cause an accident.
Mr. Revelle mentioned the approved projects that are to be
built in that area, and with that additional traffic on Par
Drive, he felt there was a problem with vehicles of this
size parking there. He said he was not urging a "NO
PARKING" area, but restrictions of some type to prevent
vehicles of this size parking there for long and sustained
times. He said that aesthetics could be considered, as the
are not precluded by law.
Lori Sisson, 4849 Flying Cloud Way, stated she drove the
notorious truck and comes home three to five days a month.
She said she was home for a longer time in December, but
that was not the usual schedule. Ms. Sisson said she had
tried to explain to Ms. Bacon that she lived there, also,
and makes house payments on a home that she only sees three
to five days a month. She said if anyone could find anothe
place for her to park her truck, she would be happy to do
that. Ms. Sisson stated that she usually parks well off of
the pavement, and Ms. Bacon can see the lagoon over her
truck.
Ms. Sisson stated that she was aware of the impending
development in that area and that she would not be able to
park there much longer. She expressed concern over the fac
that there is no place in Carlsbad for trucks to park.
Donald Wilber, 4777 Flying Cloud Way, representing the
Laguna Del Mar Homeowners Association, stated they were
neutral in this matter, but he felt this large a vehicle
does not belong in that area. The roadway is narrow in tha
area and there are no lights on Park. Mr. Wilber said therl
are bus stops on both sides of the street and the bus stops
on the street, which creates a safety hazard. He said that
as construction in the area gets heavier, the safety factor
will become worse. He mentioned that there are school
children walking in that area, and the density is coming fo.
that area. Even though it may not qualify as a residential
district legally, it is a residential area and will be a
district very soon.
Mr. Wilber felt the parking of the 18 wheeler in that area
creates a traffic safety problem for the lagoon, and he
recommended limiting parking along that area.
Commissioner Fuller asked Mr. Wilber to be specific about
the limiting of parking, and he replied that is a bottlenec:
there and would want whatever was necessary to restrict
parking below Neblina, if that would remove the safety
problem.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, Chairman
Herring closed the public testimony portion at 4:26 p.m.
Commission discussion centered on the fact that the
developments that are forthcoming there are counting on
street parking for visitors.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Bob Johnson said that the new developments will be required
to provide parking as required by the zoning, but that if
there are several parties going on at the same time, they
will need on-street parking.
Commissioner Fuller commented about the people using the
lagoon who park in that area, and they will need that on-
street parking when the developments are in place. He said
that he did not want to take an action here that would
contradict what the Planning Commission was assuming with
regard to on-street parking for lagoon users, etc. He
further said that the people should recognize that what is
there now will change radically over the next few years.
Mr. Fuller said this is a short-term problem, and in the
long run it will not exist. He said that Ms. Sisson's use
of the area for her truck is insignificant.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee recommendation that the request for
"NO PARKING" zone on Park Drive be denied. In addition,
there is no recommendation to change CMC Section 10.40.075
to modify the California Vehicle Code residence district
criteria to one of subjective interpretation of a residencE
area.
C. National Child Passencrer Safety Awareness Week -
Information item.
Bob Johnson referred to the material in the packet regardir
National Child Passenger Safety Awareness Week, which is
February 11 - 17, 1990. He said that a Proclamation will IC
read at Council Meeting tomorrow night, and the information
included in the packet was sent to the elementary schools i
the City and the day care centers. Mr. Johnson said it was
hoped that this material would be reproduced and distribute
to the children to take home.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY CO"ISSI0NERS:
Commissioner Melideo reported that the potholes are still a
the corner of Tamarack and Jefferson. Mr. Johnson said he
would see that a work order is issued for that.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob Johnson announced the March Meeting would be March 5,
1990.
By proper motion, the Meeting of February 5, 1990, was
adjourned at 4:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Harkiett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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