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Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: March 5, 1990
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS ’
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Herring called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Herring, Fuller, Melideo, O’Day
and Stachoviak.
Absent : None.
Staff Mertbers Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Carpenter, Police Department
Lloyd Hubbs, City Engineer
Pat Entezari, Project Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held February 5, 1990, were
approved as presented.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
agenda item.
OLD BUSINESS:
Bob Johnson reported that the subcommittee formed to go over
the rules and procedures met last week; comments were made
and forwarded to the City Attorney; returned and discussed
by the subcommittee consisting of Commissioner Herring and
Stachoviak. Mr. Johnson will send the copy of the rules to
the Commissioners this week for review and comment. This
will be an agenda item next month.
Mr. Johnson reported that Ms. Bacon had appealed the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Commission to establish
no parking restrictions on Park Drive. This item will be on
the City Council agenda one week from tomorrow night--March
13.
Mr. Johnson stated that the State Attorney General has been
asked for a ruling on the golf cart issue in La Costa. This
ruling can take six months, so it will be some time before
this issue is returned to the City.
)JEW BUSINESS:
A. Tamarack Avenue Alianment Studv - Request for comments
and recommendation.
Pat Entezari, the Engineer for this corridor study, who has
worked with the consultant on this particular study, was
present to answer questions.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating this item was
presented at an open forum where the property owners had an
opportunity to look at the maps and ask questions. He said
there are three alternatives under consideration--each with
advantages and disadvantages.
Herring
Fuller
Me 1 ideo
O‘Day
Stachoviak
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Johnson stated that today he hoped to accomplish two
things; obtain comments from the public--especially those
who live along Tamarack--and a recommendation from the
Traffic Safety Commission as to the alternative to be
recommended to the City Council. This item will go to the
Planning Commission in April or May, and their
recommendation will also go to the City Council, who will
ultimately make the decision. The Council will weigh the
recommendations of the Traffic Safety Commission and the
Planning Commission, as well as the comments and letters
received from the public.
Mr. Johnson used wall maps to indicate the three
alternatives and added that the report of the consultant is
available to the public at the City's Las Palmas offices.
Mr. Johnson stated that the three alternatives are the same
at the intersection of Jefferson Street; with a four-lane
configuration with a raised median to maintain the three
eucalyptus trees off of the traveled way. This would then
line up with the easterly leg of the intersection.
The main differences in the three alternatives were listed
by Mr. Johnson, as follows: Alternative #l - no parking at
all; sidewalks and curbs, bike lane, and 12 foot wide
traffic lanes (one in each direction). There would be a
continuous left-turn lane, and this alternative is the least
expensive.
Alternative #2 would be the most expensive, with land from
23 parcels to be acquired and the purchase of six houses on
the south side of the street near Garfield Avenue, making a
cost of 2.8 million dollars. There would be on-street
parking throughout the length of Tamarack Avenue, except
where safety considerations prohibit it.
Alternative #3 is a combination of #l and #2, with an on-
street parking lane to the south in those areas for which
the necessary right-of-way is already owned by the City or
can be easily obtained. There would be approximately 20 on-
street parking spaces provided with this alternative. The
cost of this alternative would be $982,000. This would
utilize property that has been previously acquired by the
City and is the recommendation of the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee.
Mr. Johnson said staff knew there would be complaints about
the on-street parking and they have anticipated that.
In response to Commission query regarding any houses to be
taken on Alternative #3, Mr. Johnson replied that no houses
~ would be taken, but some easements were needed.
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Chairman Herring opened the Public Hearing at 3:22 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Lowell Ponte, 522 Tamarack Avenue, commended the work done
by the City on this study and stated he would favor #1 or
#3, but not #2. He said that a street that looks wide
encourages people to drive even faster. Mr. Ponte called
attention to the fact that there is an elementary school
nearby and the children travel Tamarack.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Ponte also stated there are railroad tracks on Tamarack
hills and 43 private driveways, in this area. Also, in the
winter, the sun sets right into the drivers' eyes. He
expressed the hope that the 25 m.p.h. speed limit will be
retained and that the curve radius would be 15 rather than
25.
Mr. Ponte concluded, stating he was very proud and happy fo
the good work the City has done to preserve the trees, home
and the neighborhood, and is happy to be a resident of
Carlsbad.
Rick Bowers, 3885 Monroe, a partner in 293-295 Tamarack,
stated that he favored Alternative f2, even though it was
more expensive, as it provided parking. He said if there i
no parking on Tamarack, the tenants will be forced to use
the side streets.
Lee Boyd, 391 Tamarack, was concerned about a garage he
built out of solid concrete many years ago. He was assured
this would not affect his garage.
Margaret Jeffress, 548 Tamarack, stated that her concern wa
the parking. She said it is difficult to get out of the
driveways now, and if cars are parked on the street, there
would be no way anyone could get out of their driveways.
Ms. Jeffress said she did not want any parking on the
street.
Stephen Bannigan, 260 Tamarack, said that his concerns were
the rise in the road and the speed of the traffic. He felt
that parking makes all this more difficult and dangerous.
He used the wall map to indicate the area where the road ha
a slight rise and where the speed of traffic seems to pick
up. Mr. Bannigan said this needs to be addressed.
Mr. Sanchez, 270 Tamarack, pointed out the hill area and
said if he is approaching his driveway from the beach side,
he cannot turn into the driveway as he can not see the
traffic coming over that hill.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, Chairman
Herring closed the public testimony at 3:36 p.m.
Commissioner Fuller commented that there would be some
shaving of the hill with the improvements, but that it was
not possible to cut too much without impairing the
driveways.
Commissioner O'Day inquired about the sight distance, and
Mr. Johnson replied that it would be improved as much as
possible without creating problems with the existing
driveways. Commissioner O'Day said he thought parking wou
outweigh bike lanes, and commented that the people on La
Costa Avenue used the parking areas to safely exit from the
driveways.
Mr. Johnson said this was a judgment call--as there is a lo
of bicycle traffic on Tamarack. He said that staff would
recommend that the bike lanes remain.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Commissioner Melideo stated that nothing had been taken from
the Beach Study, as bike lanes and sidewalks were important
issues in that study. She said that part of Tamarack is R-
3 and some is R-1, and there is a need for parking without
considering any beach traffic. Also, there was no mention
of the "dip", which has been a problem for over 20 years.
Commissioner Melideo said that there is also the railroad
crossing and the Garfield intersection. She said she was
not happy with any of these, and after waiting for 20 years
was concerned no better alternatives were recommended. She
lives close to that area and travels it frequently, and she
commented that the traffic backs up to the railroad crossing
from the Garfield intersection.
Commissioner Melideo said she felt very strongly in favor of
Alternative #2. This alternative would help everyone, as
you cannot tell people they cannot come to the beach. She
said that the study did not mention the possibility of
creating parking along the railroad track at Washington.
Mr. Johnson replied there is a study in progress with regard
to parking along the railroad right-of-way; however, this
problem on Tamarack needs to be solved with consideration
given to preserving the quality of life the people living on
Tamarack now enjoy.
Commissioner Melideo replied that she hoped "cost" was not
too much of the concern for improving Tamarack, as the
acquisition cost of property will continue to rise. She
felt the cost of Alternative #2 was not that much money,
and it was a very important issue, as tempers flare over not
finding a place to park.
Commissioner Stachoviak said he had inquired about how long
it would be before Alternatives #l and #3 would have to be
changed to compensate for additional traffic. He added that
the City Engineer had said that Alternative #2 would be in
some people's houses. The comment was made that six or
seven houses would have to be purchased and the roadway
would be very close to the majority of the properties.
Chairman Herring stated that it was necessary to provide the
greatest good for the greatest number of people.
The Traffic Safety Commission recommended Alternative #2, to
provide a 64-foot street in an 80-foot right-of-way. This
would necessitate, among other acquisitions, the purchase of
six houses on the south side of the street near the Garfield
Avenue intersection. Land from 23 parcels must also be
acquired. On-street parking would be provided throughout
the length of Tamarack Avenue, except where safety
considerations prohibit it.
Commissioner O'Day said he could live with Alternative #3,
if the bike lanes were deleted. He made a motion that if
the City Council made a finding for Alternative #3, they
should be informed that this Commission preferred parking
rather than bike lanes. The motion died for lack of a
second.
Herring
Fuller
Me1 ideo
O'Day
Stachoviak
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
B. Christiansen Wav, Carlsbad Boulevard to Washinaton
Street - Request for centerline striping.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, using a transparency to
show the area. He stated that a petition had been submitted
with this request, and added that it was not city policy to
provide centerline striping unless there was a problem.
This street is extremely narrow, only 24 feet and narrowing
to 20 feet at Washington Street, and if this were striped,
that would make the traffic lanes ten feet wide. Ten feet
is not wide enough for traffic lanes, and the City does not
stripe a street that narrow. Mr. Johnson continued, stating
that forcing traffic to stay in that narrow a lane is less
safe than without a stripe.
Mr. Johnson stated that Mr. Bilchik was concerned about the
buses traveling down the middle of the street.
Mr. Johnson said that Tom Lichterman of North County Transit
District was present to answer any questions. He said that
“yield” signs had been requested for vehicles on
Christiansen Way, and staff would investigate that request.
In reply to Commission query regarding any stipulations
about Village Faire doing any work on Christiansen Way, Mr.
Johnson said there were no conditions to improve that
street. He commented that the commuter station should be
open in 1992, and that will alleviate this situation.
Tom Lichterman, Operations Manager, NCTD, stated that only
one route uses Christiansen Way, and there are four buses an
hour. Any other routing for that bus would result in
traffic lights and going through the downtown area. He
reiterated that the problem would be resolved in the future
with the development of the commuter rail system.
Cheri Sato, 2747 Washington, stated she would like to see a
stop sign or something to help make people realize they
should yield to a main street. She said she was almost hit
head-on by a bus.
Mr. Johnson said that “park off of the pavement” signs had
been requested by Mr. Bilchik in the petition, and that will
be evaluated.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee that no centerline
striping be established on Christiansen Way, due to the
narrow roadway width, low traffic volumes, absence of
collision history and current policy to not stripe low
volume, narrow roadways. The Commission further recommended
that “park off of pavement” signs be considered for
Christiansen Way and the City check into the possibility of
improving the street to allow Christiansen Way to meet
minimum standards.
Herring
Fuller
Melideo
0’ Day
Stachoviak
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NEW BUSINESS : ( Continued)
C. Chestnut Avenue, Jefferson Street to Hardina Street -
Request for on-street angled parking.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, using a transparency to
show Chase Field. He stated that although angled parking
does allow more parking spaces, the Coordinating Committee
did not recommend it for Chestnut Avenue between Harding
Street and Jefferson Street as it would reduce the width of
the traffic lane, reduce the sidewalk width for pedestrians,
be hazardous with the backing out of vehicles and
pedestrians walking between them and there is no correlation
between personal safety and availability of angled parking
spaces; actually resulting in a decrease in traffic safety.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to deny the
request for angled-parking on Chestnut Avenue between
Harding Street and Jefferson Street, as follows:
1. Angled parking would reduce the width of the traffic
land that vehicles and bicycles share in this congested
area.
2. Backing-out maneuvers from an angle parking space is
significantly more hazardous than parallel parking due
to the view obstruction to the driver by adjacent parked
vehicles.
3. Angled parking would result in vehicles overhanging the
sidewalk and reduce the sidewalk width for pedestrians.
4. Many different types of vehicles such as motorhomes,
trucks and long passenger vehicles park in this vicinity
and would encroach into the traffic lane; also create a
more significant view obstruction for the adjacent
vehicle.
5. Pedestrians walking between parked vehicles remain
unseen for a longer time period from the moving vehicles
in the traffic lane, thereby creating a potential for an
increase in pedestrianlvehicle conflicts.
6. There is no demonstrated correlation between personal
safety and the availability of angled parking spaces.
To the contrary, on-street angled parking results in
more direct traffic conflicts with an overall decrease
in traffic safety.
D. Traffic Sianal Evaluation Policy Update - Request for
comments and recommendation.
Bob Johnson referred to the report, a copy of which was
supplied to each of the Commissioners.
Commissioner Melideo said she would like to add the Tamarack
and Garfield intersection. Mr. Johnson stated that the
TamarackIGarfield intersection was studied, but did not meet
traffic signal warrants.
Commissioner Fuller stated he would like staff to note the
changes in some way so the Commissioners would know what
changes had been made in the report. Mr. Johnson stated
that future reports would have the changes underscored.
Herring
Fuller
Me1 ideo
0 ' Day
Stachoviak
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
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The Traffic Safety Commission approved the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee recommendation that the updated
Traffic Signal Evaluation Policy, including the Signal
Qualification List, be recommended for adoption by the City
Council.
E. TDA/Proposition A Bicycle Fundinq - Request funding of
four projects in Carlsbad.
Commissioner O'Day stated he would abstain from discussion
and vote on this item, due to a possible conflict of
interest, and left the dais.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating the Traffic
Engineering Division staff had identified four projects for
possible funding from the SANDAG TDA/Proposition A Bicycle
Funding.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee recommendation to request funding of
the following four projects fron SANDAG, in the following
priority order:
Bicycle masterplan for the entire City of Carlsbad
($50,000).
Bicycle lanes on Palomar Airport Road from Avenida Encinas
to Paseo Del Norte ($355,000).
Bicycle lanes on Tamarack Avenue from Carlsbad Boulevard to
Jefferson Street ($52,000).
Sidewalk Program - construction of sidewalks in various
locations throughout the City ($200,000).
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
The Commissioners stated that the potholes are still there
at Tamarack and Jefferson. Bob Johnson said they had been
repaired, but had washed out again. He said he would
discuss this with Utilities/Maintenance.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
In answer to Commission inquiry, Bob Johnson said he would
present the staff report, slides and the Commission
recommendation to City Council on March 13, 1990, on the
appeal of Marlene Bacon.
By proper motion, the Meeting of March 5, 1990, was
adjourned at 5:03 p.m.
Minutes Clerk
Herring
Fuller
Me1 ideo
0 ' Day
Stachoviak
Herring
Fuller
Me 1 ideo
Stachoviak