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Meeting of : TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: May 7, 1990
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS \
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Herring called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Herring, Fuller and O'Day.
Absent: Commissioners Melideo and Stachoviak.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Officer Moore, Police Department
Mike Shirey, Assistant Civil
Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held April 2, 1990, were approved
as amended.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
agenda item.
OLD BUSINESS :
Bob Johnson reported that the two speed limit ordinances,
one on La Costa and one on El Camino Real, were adopted by
the City Council.
NEW BUSINESS :
A. Lasuna Shores Place - Investigate a loading/unloading
zone at end of cul-de-sac.
Bob Johnson gave the staff presentation, using two
transparencies of Exhibits that were contained in the
packet.
Mr. Johnson stated that Laguna Shores Place is a cul-de-sac
street located off Park Drive, and is being constructed to
serve as access to the two developments shown on the
Exhibits.
Concern has been expressed for the loading/unloading for
boardsail use, and if that zone is not provided for in the
cul-de-sac, this might necessitate carrying the boardsails
long distances to the edge of the lagoon. To accommodate
the loading and unloading of boardsails in the cul-de-sac, a
yellow parking zone could be painted at the easement
location in the cul-de-sac for a distance of approximately
48 feet and an ordinance passed to allow this seven days a
week, including holidays.
The Traffic Safety Commission adopted the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to designate two
on-street curb parking spaces adjacent to the access point
at the end of Laguna Shores Drive by painting the curb
yellow for a distance of approximately 48 feet; furthermore,
an ordinance be passed to indicate the restriction applies
seven days a week, including holidays.
Herring
Fuller
0' Day
Herring
Fuller
O'Day
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Chairman Herring announced that the League of Women Voters
have appointed an Observer who is present at today's
meeting .
NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
B. Grand Avenue - Ocean Street to Carlsbad Boulevard -
Repast for angle parking.
Bob Johnson reported that angle parking exists on Grand
Avenue between Ocean Street and Carlsbad Boulevard, as shown
on the exhibit included in the packet. At the present time,
angle parking is not striped or established by Ordinance.
Mr. Rochambeau, Administrator of Carlsbad by the Sea, has
requested that additional striping be placed on the north
side of Grand Avenue from Garfield Street to Ocean Street.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee that angled
parking spaces be striped on the north side of Grand Avenue
from Ocean Street to Garfield Street and that CMC Section
10.40.080 be amended to permit angle parking on Grand Avenue
from Ocean Street to Carlsbad Boulevard on the north side
and from Ocean Street to Garfield Street on the south side.
C. Grand Avenue - Carlsbad Boulevard to Washinqton Street -
Revise CMC Section 10.40.080.
Bob Johnson reported that when the angle parking was removed
from the north side of Grand Avenue from Carlsbad Boulevard
to Washington Street, the Code was not amended. This was
removed at the time the North County Transit District bus
transfer station was moved from the south side of Grand
Avenue to the north side.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to delete Section
10.40.080(5) of the Carlsbad Municipal Code.
D. Sidewalk Inventory Report - Request for comments and
recommendations.
Mike Shirey gave the staff report on this item, stating
public input and changes were made and added to this Report.
He explained the changes and the point system used, and
asked for comments from the Commission and the public.
Chairman Herring opened the Public Comment portion at 3:37
p.m., and issued the invitation to speak.
Thelma Hayes, 580 Laguna Drive, representing the Pedestrian
Group, and the Pedestrian Committee, commended staff for the
report. She said the missing sidewalks of Carlsbad are
identified and a method given to fulfill the goal of having
a safe place to walk for all Carlsbad citizens. She said
that those who must walk should be given first
consideration; and €or the most part those are children who
are too young to drive, the elderly who are too old to drive
and the poor of all ages who cannot afford to drive.
Herring
Fuller
0' Day
Herring
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mrs. Hayes stated that the committee recommended the
Commission set priority areas for those who must walk before
applying the information staff has worked out. They suggest
schools be the number one priority. Mrs. Hayes stated she
had called all the elementary school principals to whom
copies of this report had been sent €or their reactions.
She said that some of them had not received the report as
yet, and others found it at the bottom of their stack of
papers, so she did not know how many had reacted to the
report.
Mrs. Hayes stated that with each school as a hub, the infill
of the missing sidewalks could radiate from there to each
school's boundary. The formula could be used to see that
the routes to and from the schools are finished first. The
suggestion was made by one committee member that in the
first year, if all the sidewalks could not be built, that
the five elementary schools, the junior high and the high
school be considered first. Mrs. Hayes suggested that if
there is not enough money, then the areas where the most
students and cars are should be done first. This would also
reduce the cost for infill sidewalks, as the areas farther
and farther away from the schools would be done to make it
safer to walk to and from the schools.
Mrs. Hayes continued, stating that the properties were
identified that were obligated for sewers and gutters and
the infill sidewalk projects could be established to use the
extra money these properties would contribute. She said
that these little "goldmines" should not be included as part
of the $400,000 and the $100,000 thereafter; but spent on
additional sidewalks on the years they are discovered. The
pedestrian circulation should be linked with the public
transportation, and Mrs. Hayes had asked the Chamber of
Commerce Transportation Committee and the Chair of the North
County Transit Board to identify where no sidewalks exist to
and from bus stops. She said she did not know whether or
not they had done this at this time.
Mrs. Hayes said that by providing sidewalks to and from the
schools, the parents will be relieved of driving their
children to school and for those with no cars or who can no
longer drive, they will be independent and not dependent
upon others to drive them.
Mrs. Hayes concluded, thanking staff for this big step
forward.
Mario Monroyl 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, stated that he
seconded all that Mrs. Hayes had said. In addition, he
called attention to recent newspaper articles stating that
the school boundaries might be changed. There are no
sidewalks in some of the areas to walk to the Jefferson and
Pine Schools, and this would affect those students and
parents. This is one of the reasons the committee is
recommending considering the schools as the hub for building
sidewalks. He said that timing is very important in this
matter.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued
Bailey Noble, 5470 Los Robles, also concurred with what the
previous speakers had said, and added that in the hilly
areas perhaps only one sidewalk was necessary; also in the
low-volume traffic areas. He said that for example, there
is very little traffic on Manzano Drive, and certainly no
need for sidewalks on both the north and south sides of the
street. He said that the City could save money by
considering such factors in the low-priority areas.
L. 0. Brockmann, 5511 Los Robles Drive, stated he felt the
report by staff was a most comprehensive one, and he also
supported Mrs. Hayes' statements, and concurred that the
schools should be the first priority. Mr. Brockmann stated
the work should be done by areas, when possible, in order to
save money. He also agreed that sidewalks on both sides of
Manzano Drive were not necessary.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the Public
Testimony portion was closed.
In answer to Commission query, Mr. Johnson stated that the
projects in the first five years were mostly in the school
areas.
Commissioner Fuller stated that the speakers today wanted
the formula reworked to get it aimed at the schools as the
hubs and then go out from there. He said that the formula
as it now exists essentially accomplishes that.
Mr. Johnson added that they had tried to do that, and had
given the schools high priority. He said that the next
phase will be to link the areas together. He asked the
Commission to be aware that such factors as right-of-way,
storm drains and utility relocation were not considered--
and this would be a big issue. Where roads have to be
widened and the City has no right-of-way, it takes time and
work to obtain that right-of-way.
Mike Shirey used a wall map to indicate the areas targeted
for sidewalks and the years they are to be installed.
Commissioner O'Day said it would not be that cost effective,
if just one small area were to be covered at a time. He
felt it should involve a larger area. Mr. O'Day felt the
schools should be taken care of by priority.
Mr. Johnson said that the map does not show all the missing
sidewalks, and it was staff's thinking to make a smaller
radius with the schools as the hub.
Commissioner O'Day stated that if the formula was followed
as the City Engineer desired, to clump things together, some
of the schools would be left out in the first year. Mr.
Johnson answered that those matters would come before the
Commission. He also said that some places need a sidewalk
on only one side of the street, and there are some places
that may never have sidewalks.
Commissioner O'Day said that .some parents have told him
about their children walking to school through mud, and this
bothered him. He felt it was important to correct that
situation. He said he did not want any school left out of
the first year program unless the reasons were pretty over-
whelming.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Johnson agreed with Mr. O'Day, and stated it would
depend upon right-of-way acquisition, etc. He added that
the elementary schools should have a high priority.
Commissioner Fuller expressed a concern about what happens
to the adjacent property owners; do they learn about this
when the contractor tears up his front yard? He asked when
the property owners are notified of this proposed sidewalk
installation.
Mr. Johnson said the property owners are made aware of the
situation in order to give input.
Mr. Johnson said the report will be brought back to the
Commission. Commissioner O'Day asked for a color-coded map,
and Mrs. Hayes asked for an overlay for each year to show
the projects proposed.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
There were no reports.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob Johnson reported that one of the projects this
Commission recommended and Council adopted, was for funding
by TDA for sidewalks.
Mr. Johnson stated that the City has applied for the Volvo
Safety Award.
Mr. Johnson announced there would be a bus route training
session and field trip on May 14, 1990, from 9:00 a.m. to
11:OO a.m., in Vista.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of May 7, 1990, was adjourned
at 4:12 p.m.
Reppectfully submitted, ** HARRIETT BABBITT
Minutes Clerk