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Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: September 10, 1990
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-chairman Stachoviak called the Meeting to order at
3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Blake, Fuller, Melideo and
Stachoviak.
Absent: Commissioner O'Day.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Don Metcalf, Police Department
Sherri Howard, Associate Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held August 6, 1990, were
approved as presented.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
Bob Johnson introduced Mr. Thomas Blake, who is the new
Traffic Safety Commissioner. Commissioner Blake was
welcomed by the other Commissioners.
Mr. Johnson stated that Commissioner O'Day had asked him to
research whether or not there was any liability on the part
of the City for failure to paint red curb by fire hydrants.
Mr. Johnson referred to the memorandum dated September 5,
1990, from the City Attorney's Office stating the City has
no legal obligation to paint the curb red in the vicinity of
a fire hydrant. It is the driver's responsibility to know
the law and the fire hydrant itself is a notice to the
driver that he cannot park there.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Elect new Chairperson and Vice-ChairDerson
Vice-Chairperson Stachoviak indicated he would rather serve
as Vice-Chairperson rather than Chair the Commission for the
coming year.
Commissioner Fuller recommended that the term of office be
from August 1 through July, as this would coincide with the
appointment of new Commissioners by Council.
By unanimous vote, Commissioner Fuller was elected
Chairperson for the coming year. Commissioner Stachoviak
was unanimously elected Vice-Chairperson, with the term of
office to run from August 1 through the following July.
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B. Traffic Safety Commission Resolution of Commendation for
Robert Herrinq.
Vice-chairman Stachoviak read the Resolution of Commendation
for former Commissioner Herring, and this Resolution will
either be presented to him at a future meeting or mailed to
him.
The Traffic Safety Commission adopted the Resolution of
Commendation for Commissioner Herring for his service to the
City.
C. Sidewalk and Centerline Radii Rewirements on Private
Streets - Review and comment on proposed Engineering
Department Policy.
Bob Johnson stated this item was requested by the City
Engineer for this Commission to consider and provide input.
Sherri Howard continued the staff report, stating the
proposed policy would allow some variations from the
Engineering Design Standards to allow more creativity in
site design and enhance project site safety.
In reply to Commission query regarding private streets
becoming public streets, Mr. Johnson stated that there have
been such requests, but there is considerable criteria to be
met in order to do that, as the City is not willing to
accept those roads. Exceptions were usually granted to the
developers to get the streets in, and the City does not want
to accept streets that do not meet regular standards.
Commissioner Melideo stated she felt very strongly that if
streets were going to be built, they should be built to City
standards.
Staff indicated that most of the private street projects
being received by the City at this time are gated, and some
with guardhouses at those gates, and the streets within that
gated area are not designed to public street criteria. They
are closer
to it now than previously, but there are still variations in
the sidewalks and setbacks. This is to help provide a good
design that will not become too sterile. Ms. Howard
indicated that the Planning Department shares Commissioner
Melideo's sentiment, and not all developers requesting
private streets are being granted that request.
Commissioner Melideo reiterated that she is not against
private streets and gated communities, but sidewalks and
streets should conform as closely as possible to City
standards.
Commissioner Fuller stated he had no problem with giving the
City Engineer the ability to have some leeway for private
streets, if there is a guarantee that the developer and the
buyers know those streets will not be accepted as public
streets in the future. Mr. Johnson stated there is not a
one hundred percent guarantee on that. Mr. Fuller said that
he felt the buyers should be made aware of that, and that
private streets engineered to standards lower than that for
public streets should then remain private streets.
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Ms. Howard added that standards are still maintained, but
steeper curves are allowed and there are sidewalks behind
the units rather than along the main route. She said that
this is more stringent than the products out there now.
Sidewalks are not being removed from the projects--better
pedestrian circulation is being provided.
Commissioner Melideo stated she could not go along with this
and would recommend that with the addition of “to public
street specifications” that would take care of it.
Mr. Johnson stated that the City Engineer had requested
Commission comments on whether private streets should be
built to public street standards in the City. There has
been no written policy on this issue, and this is the first
attempt to establish such a policy.
Commissioner Fuller stated he would like to have some kind
of a format showing current City standards. There is no way
to tell how many deviations are contained in this proposed
policy. The Commissioners concurred they would like a copy
of City standards and to know what standard is referred to
by each section, and felt they needed more information.
Chairman Stachoviak asked about speed limits, and Mr.
Johnson stated that there is no speed enforcement on private
streets--that is regulated by the homeowners.
The Traffic Safety Commission continued this item to a
future meeting to give staff time to make a comparison
between this proposed policy and City standards.
D. Method to Notifv Public of TSC Aaenda Items - Review and
comment.
Bob Johnson reported that Commissioner O’Day had requested
this item to determine how to notify the public of items of
particular significance or importance to them, if that item
had major ramifications.
Mr. Johnson indicated staff had checked with the other
Departments in the City to determine how other Commission
meetings were publicized. They also contacted the local
newspapers to discuss the Traffic Safety Commission
particular needs with regard to publicity on certain agenda
items.
The Traffic Safety Commission approved the recommendation of
the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to publish the
entire agenda when an item of importance or one of
significant interest to the public is on the agenda. The
agenda wouldd be published in the Carlsbd Journal in the
Thursday edition preceding the Traffic Safety Commission
meeting. The agenda in the Blade Citizen would be in the
Friday edition before the Commission meeting. The Traffic
Safety Coordinating Committee further recommended that they
decide which agendas should be published in the newspaper,
unless previously determined.
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REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
None
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob Johnson reported that in the spring there was an agenda
item on one of the Commission's meetings to apply for TDA
funding, and the City did receive $262,000.
Mr. Johnson announced there would be a Pedestrian Conference
in Boulder, Colorado, the first week in October, and he
asked whether any Commissioners were interested in
attending. He will not be attending the Conference this
year.
Mr. Johnson announced that October 1-5, 1990, is California
Ride Share Week, with October 3 as "Ride Share Day". He had
pledge cards to distribute to the Commissioners.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of September 10, 1990, was
adjourned at 4:25 p.m.
ett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk