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Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m.
Date of Meeting: November 5, 1990
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Fuller called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Fuller, Blake, Melideo, O'Day and
Stachoviak.
Absent: None.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Don Metcalf, Police Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the September 10, 1990, Meeting were approved
as presented.
The Minutes of the October 1, 1990, Meeting were approved as
presented.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
agenda item.
OLD BUSINESS:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. State Street in Laauna Drive Vicinitv - Request to
establish a NO PARKING zone on the westerly side of the
street.
Bob Johnson stated that the Western Family National
Bank and several employees at the Trade Center Building
have requested that parking be removed to improve
circulation and sight distance.
Mr. Johnson said there is sight restriction due to the
alignment of State Street in the Laguna Drive vicinity.
He said that the critical speed in a speed survey in
March of 1989, was 33 m.p.h. There would be a prima
facie speed of 25 m.p.h., and based on the prevailing
speed, adequate stopping distance is not available.
Mr. Johnson said the removal of on-street parking from
the 750 feet length of street would result in the
removal of between 12 to 17 parking spaces from the
westerly side of State Street.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Mr. Johnson showed slides of the subject area
indicating the view restrictions. He said that parking
is a problem in the downtown area, and several parking
lots have been constructed to alleviate the problems,
with no public parking lots in that particular area.
The closest lot is at Grand and State.
Mr. Johnson said that staff and the Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee felt that to remove 12 to 17
parking spaces could present a problem to the merchants
in that area and to the general public trying to shop
in those businesses. He added that no accidents have
been attributed to the driveways on the west side of
the street.
This item was discussed at the Housing and
Redevelopment Advisory Committee Meeting and the
Members were concerned with losing these parking
spaces. They recommended that staff paint the curbs
red on the northerly side of the driveways to improve
the situation. However, this will not provide the
sight distance that is required, as with a critical
speed of 33 m.p.h., 250 feet is required to stop.
The Traffic Safety Committee determined that painting
the curb red would not provide the sight distance, and
felt the only way to solve the problem would be to
implement NO PARKING on the west side for 750 feet.
Therefore, that is their recommendation.
Commissioner Melideo inquired about the red curb that
has been painted there for several years. Mr. Johnson
said that staff would check the records to make certain
that is there legally. There is ten feet of existing
red curb in the area, and that will be researched by
staff to determine the validity.
Mr. Johnson said the Housing and Redevelopment Advisory
Committee recommended that the property owners look at
working out access rights and reciprocal parking
agreements .
In reply to query from Commissioner Stachoviak, Mr.
Johnson listed the parking available for this area,
stating there is some limited parking behind the
businesses.
Commissioner Blake asked how many parking spaces would
be lost with red curb painting, and Mr. Johnson said
that if the red curb were 20 feet to the north of each
driveway, there would be one space lost by each
driveway. There would also be some loss to the south,
but not as much. There would be approximately four
parking spaces eliminated.
Commissioner O'Day asked whether all parking had to be
eliminated to get the proper sight distance, and Mr.
Johnson answered "yes 'I.
Chairman Fuller opened the item for public testimony at
3:25 p.m.
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NEW BUSINESS : (Continued)
J. B. Yonce, 2737 Forest Park Lane, representing
Culligan Soft Water, stated that abxt one-third of
their employees occupy the parking spaces under
discussion. These are the route and service people,
and Mr. Yonce said that Culligan is certainly in favor
of safety measures. However, he said that he felt the
complaints were coming from people who were getting
tired of Culligan employees parking in front of their
businesses. He said he was not convinced of the safety
issue--just that it was being used as the vehicle.
Mr. Yonce said Culligan would be willing to cooperate
in any way they could to solve the problem. He added
that the accidents in that area are because of the high
speed of vehicles and the intersections--and not the
sight distance from the driveways.
Mr. Yonce stated that the people parking in those
spaces usually park at approximately 6:OO a.m., and
stay there until 1:OO or 2:OO p.m. There is some
parking in the back of the building, but the business
has grown to the extent that parking on the street is
required.
Bill Livingston, 2501 State, Culligan Soft Water,
reiterated what Mr. Yonce had said regarding their
willingness to cooperate with the other merchants in
that area to work out the parking problem. He said
that painting some of the curbs red would help a
little, and perhaps that could be done temporarily
while the business people in the area try to come to an
agreement on a permanent solution.
Max Walker, 2541 State Street, stated he is a business
man in that area and the parking is a problem. He
admitted concern with the Culligan employees taking up
most of the parking spaces for the entire day. He felt
that a two-hour parking limit would help.
Mr. Walker said he had been in that area €or six years,
and the traffic speed is a problem. He felt that
eliminating this many parking spaces would be very
critical, and he repeated his recommendation for two-
hour parking.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the
public testimony was concluded at 3:35 p.m.
Sgt. Metcalf of the Police Department stated that State
Street and Laguna Drive are by-passes for the elderly,
who have slower reaction time and higher accidents.
There is a safety question about the line of sight to
the south in that particular area.
The Traffic Safety Commission rejected the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating
Committee to establish a NO PARKING zone on the
westerly side of State Street beginning at Carlsbad
Boulevard and extending southerly 750 feet, and took no
action at this time. The Commission also requested
that a Member of this Commission be appointed to the
Downtown Master Plan Committee.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Commissioner O'Day left the Meeting at 3:53 p.m.
Commissioner Blake stated he opposed the previous
motion because the problem of sight distance still
remains. He felt that painting some red zones might
mitigate the problem somewhat.
B. Washinaton Street, Elm Avenue to Grand Avenue - Request
for a TWO-HOUR PARKING time limit on the easterly side
of the street.
Bob Johnson reported that there were 30 parking spaces
on Washington Street that were incorporated into the
parking lot of the Village Faire. Steve Densham
requested two-hour parking to benefit the public going
to Rotary Park. At the present time, the merchants and
employees park in these spaces and stay there all day.
Mr. Johnson stated that several studies have been made
by staff and one-third to one-half of these spaces are
occupied in excess of four hours.
Mr. Johnson said that the Housing and Redevelopment
Advisory Committee recommended two-hour parking, but
did not determine the days or time limits.
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommended
not establishing a time limit on parking there at this
time. It takes someone to enforce such a restriction
and this would be difficult at this time. They felt
the merchants in the area should talk among themselves
and encourage their employees not to park there. There
are several lots nearby that the employees could use
where all-day parking is permitted.
Sgt. Metcalf stated that there is one parking
enforcement Officer in the City, and enforcement of a
two-hour parking limit would be spotty at best.
The Traffic Safety Commission adopted the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating
Committee as follows: Do not establish a parking time
restriction at this time; Employers work with employees
to minimize the problems, and reconsider this request
at a later date after other viable methods of
correcting the problem have been exhausted.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Melideo reiterated her request to research the
ten feet of red curb on State Street to determine the
validity.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
None.
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ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of November 5, 1990, was
adjourned at 4:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, I&&
Hayriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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