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MEETING OF: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: March 1, 1993
TIME OF MEETING: 3:OO p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Blake called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Blake, Courtney, Fuller, Green and Stachoviak.
Absent: None.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Don Metcatf, Police Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
On motion by Commissioner Fuller, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held February 1, 1993,
were approved as presented.
AYES: Blake, Courtney, Fuller, Green and Stachoviak
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Thelma Hayes, 580 Laguna, representing the Pedestrian Group, requested a future Traffic Safety
Commission agenda item for an update on the Pedestrian Action Plan and an evaluation. She
commented that some of the schools in Carlsbad still do not have sidewalks available for the children.
It is difficutt to teach the children to always walk on sidewalks to be safe when there are no sidewalks for
them to walk on.
Mrs. Hayes stated that the representative from this Commission on the Housing and Redevelopment
Master Plan Committee resigned, and she would like to see the Commission represented. She said she
has read the second part of the plan, and it is lacking in the pedestrian and vehicular areas. Mrs. Hayes
would be interested in seeing those are covered.
Mrs. Hayes loaned a video tape to Mr. Johnson to be copied for staff and Commission use, showing
transportation systems in Brazil. The tape shows their improvement in transportation and how to get
people out of their cars and on to public transportation.
PREVIOUS BUSINESS:
Bob Johnson asked for direction from the Commission on Mrs. Hayes’ request for an update on the
Pedestrian Action Plan. By consensus, the Commission agreed to have this item placed on a future
agenda.
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PREVIOUS BUSINESS: (Continued)
In reply to Commission query, Mr. Johnson stated the priorities for the sidewalks have remained the same,
but they are not necessarily built in the numbered priority.
Mr. Johnson reported that the discussion on the guardrail at Alicante Road and Corte de la Vista at the
February 1,1993, Traffic Safety Commission Meeting resulted in an appeal to the City Council. That item
will be heard by Council at their meeting tomorrow night, March 2, 1993.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Car Countw Drive - Request from automobile dealers to change the parking restrictions on the
east and south sides of the street.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating this item was initiated by a letter from Bill Komik,
General Manager of the Jeep Eagle Dealership, and signed by General Managers, Sam DeSantos,
Cadillac, Bob Heinz, Infinity, and Dan Kunardt, Carlsbad Mitisubishi.
The automobile dealers requested the parking restrictions on Car Country Drive be changed to
allow parking during the day on the east and south side of Car Country Drive, but allow no
parking between 12:OO a.m. to 6:OO am. They also requested that the two-hour parking remain
on the north and west side of Car Country Drive.
At the time the two-hour parking on both sides of the street was initiated, there was a problem
with long-term parking--such as cars for sale, wholesalers and commuters. However, the two-hour
parking limit created problems for employees having to park there and move cars every two
hours.
By retaining the two-hour parking on the side of the street where the dealerships are located, it
was felt by the dealers that this would allow customers to utilize that parking, but allow any
employees not parking onsite to park during the day. By restricting the parking overnight, this
should eliminate any of the long-term parking.
Mr. Johnson stated that new businesses must have onsite parking for employees and each dealer
has been conditioned to apply that.
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommended that the parking restriction on the east
and south side of Car Country Drive be changed between Paseo Del Norte and Auto Center
Court. The Committee further recommended that a NO PARKING ZONE be established between
the hours of 1290 midnight and 6:OO a.m. on this road segment.
Sgt. Metcalf stated that the dealers are using the employees spaces to park used cars and
inventory and the employees are being cited by the Police. This change would correct the
parking situation for the employees, as the two-hour parking is very hard to enforce.
Mr. Johnson stated that there are spaces onsite for employee parking, and perhaps a check
should be made by the City to see why those spaces are not being used for that purpose. He
added that the dealers on Car Country Drive were not in favor of the two-hour parking restriction
when that was initiated in 1989.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Commissioner Fuller stated he would like a copy of Mr. Johnson’s staff report to go to the
Planning Department, where the restrictions for parking are imposed.
Commissioner Green stated he would support this request, with reservations, as he would not like
to see this item return to the Commission every four years. The City mandates parking for
employees and this should be enforced.
Bill Komik, General Manager, Jeep Eagle Dealership, was present to answer questions. He stated
one of the biggest problems is that people do not know that there are dealerships on Car Country
Drive--as there are no signs. With cars parked on the south and east side of the street, it will alert
people that things are happening there and there is activii on that street.
In reply to Commission query regarding the dealers having to provide employee parking, Mr.
Kornik stated that they do provide employee parking. However, with the economic times we are
experiencing, dealerships must have more than one franchise. This creates a problem with
inventory for several franchises in one location. They want to be able to have offsiie parking, but
do not want the long-term parking. That is why they requested that parking not be allowed from
midnight until 6:OO a.m.
Commissioner Courtney stated he had a problem with businesses and parking, and felt that
onsite parking should be available for employees and customers and should not be full of other
cars.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Green, the Traffic Safety Commission approved the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to change the
parking restriction on the east and south side of Car Country Drive between
Paseo Del Norte and Auto Center Court to allow parking during the daytime and
establish a NO PARKING ZONE between the hours of 12:W midnight and 6:W
a.m. The other parking restrictions on Car Country Drive are to remain the same.
AYES: Blake, Courtney, Fuller, Green and Stachoviak
B. Avenida Encinas - Poinsettia Lane northerly to its terminus - Police Department request to
establish a prima facie speed limit. 0
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating that the Police Department has requested a prima facie
speed limit from on Avenida Encinas from Poinsettia Lane northerly to its terminus to control
excessive speeding on a dead end road.
Avenida Encinas is a secondary arterial and will connect between Poinsettia Lane and Palomar
Airport Road. At the present time, this segment is only 3,000 feet long and approximately one
half of the ultimate roadway width. The southbound lane is 12 feet and the northbound lane is
20 feet, which allows for parking.
A traffic speed survey was conducted by staff, and the critical speed was 41 miles per hour;
therefore, the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommended a 35 mile per hour prima facie
speed limit.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
In reply to Commission query regarding the speed limit, Mr. Johnson stated that staff reviews
speed limits, and when conditions on a street change, a new survey is conducted, and if
warranted, a different speed limit is imposed.
Commissioner Green expressed concern with the 35 mile per hour limit, and suggested a 30 mile
per hour limit. Mr. Johnson explained that setting the speed limit below the critical speed would
create a speed trap, and would not be enforceable.
Sgt. Metcalf explained that there are two methods for giving tickets: radar or pacing. A ticket can
be written by pacing, as the Officer is seeing just what the motorist is seeing. However, with
radar, the Officer is not seeing what the motorist is seeing--justa safe speed. The critical speed
on this street is 41 miles per hour, and therefore a speed limit off 35 miles per hour is proper.
If a lower speed limit were posted, the Courts would not consider any tickets written by the Police.
Carlsbad does not set speed traps and has an excellent reputation in the Courts as far as fairness
with the tickets written. Speed limits can be reduced by setting a proper limit and then monitoring
that site, and if the speeds have dropped, then reducing the speed limit. Sgt. Metcalf explained
that the Police Department is very active in monitoring this type of action.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Fuller, the Traffic Safety Commission approved the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a 35
mile per hour prima facie speed limit on Avenida Encinas from Poinsettia Lane to
its terminus, 3,000 feet northerly.
AYES: Blake, Courtney, Fuller, Green and Stachoviak
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Stachoviak inquired about the timing of the walk signals on Carlsbad Boulevard. Mr.
Johnson explained that the walk portion is set for seven seconds unless on a signal at an intersection
where there are special circumstances; such as children or elderly persons crossing, which would then
be set for more than seven seconds. Mr. Johnson stated that the flashing hand only means that you
should not step off of the curbing and does not mean that you should stop where you are in the middle
of the street or retreat to the curbing. The signals are set for someone walking four feet per second,
which allows time for anyone to reach the other side of the street safely.
Commissioner Green referred to the recent accident in San Marcos where a school bus was hit by a
motorhome at an intersection with a left turn signal that required a certain number of cars in the line. Mr.
Johnson stated that all left turn signals in Carlsbad are protected or left turns must yield to oncoming
traffic. There are no protected/permissiie signals, such as the one in San Marcos.
Commissioner Green requested information and updating on the traffic control with regard to major items in the improvement of Palomar Airport Road. Mr. Johnson said that this Commission will be kept apprised
of that work under the agenda item of Report from Traffic Engineer. The traffic control plans are being
reviewed at this time, and there will be elaborate traffic control plans for that project.
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REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS: (Continued)
Commissioner Courtney inquired about the intersection of northbound Paseo Del Norte at Cannon Road.
Sgt. Metcalf explained that he was responsible for restriping that area. No number of lane changes were
made, but motorists were making a double left turn lane out of a single lane, and this was creating a
problem. The road was not designed for two left turn lanes-there is not sufficient room. The Police
Department requested the road to be properly marked to eliminate this illegal use of the lane.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Bob Johnson stated he had no additional report.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Regular Meeting of March 1, 1993, was adjourned at 4:s p.m.
Minutes Clerk