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MINUTES
MEETING OF: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: February 6,1995
TIME OF MEETING: 3:OO p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Courtney called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Courtney, Anear, Blake, Green and Stachoviak.
Absent: None.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Jim Byler
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
On motion by Commissioner Stachoviak, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held January 9,
1995, were approved as presented.
AYES: Courtney, Blake, Green and Stachoviak
ABSTAIN: Anear
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-agenda item.
PREVIOUS BUSINESS:
Bob Johnson stated he had no items under Previous Business.
Commissioner Green inquired whether staff at the swim complex had completed their training to be able
to issue citations.
Mr. Johnson stated that the item for the ability to issue tickets at the swim complex is scheduled to be
on the City Council agenda one week from tomorrow. A week later the ordinance will be adopted to
change the time limits on parking. Thirty days later, or near the end of March, the new ordinance and
new times would be in effect, and by then the individuals will probably be able to write tickets.
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NRN BUSINESS:
A. Paseo Del Norte. Car Countw Drive to Poinsettia Lane - Request to revise the existing prima facie
speed limit.
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, using a transparency to show the segment of Paseo Del Norte
to be considered. This road is a secondary arterial and fully improved, with two travel lanes in
each direction and a painted median from Car Country Drive southerly to Camino del Parque and
one travel lane in each direction and a painted median from Camino del Parque to Poinsettia
Lane.
This item was initiated by Sgt. Metcalf of the Carlsbad Police Department. Since Paseo Del Norte
is one of the top ten streets for Police monitoring, he requested an Engineering and Traffic Survey
to determine the proper speed limit. This segment of Paseo Del Norte has a 35 mile per hour
speed limit, and the Survey does not support this speed limit.
The accident history for this segment of road indicates there is no safety problem associated with
excessive speed, and since the Police Department cannot enforce the 35 mile per hour speed
limit, the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee has recommended a 40 mile per hour speed limit.
Commissioner Stachoviak asked why the speed limit was being raised, since the accident history
indicated that the segment of road was operating efficiently.
Mr. Johnson and Sgt. Byler both explained that the City is updating the speed limits on major
streets in order to comply with the Goulet decision which the courts are now enforcing. The
Police Officers cannot issue tickets on a street where the Engineering and Traffic Survey indicates
that the present speed limit is too low. The tickets are thrown out of court and the Police Officers
are reprimanded by the Judges/Commissioners for even writing the tickets. Radar cannot be
used on those streets, and as a result, people are driving even faster, knowing they cannot be
issued a valid speeding ticket.
Commissioner Stachoviak asked how many tickets have been thrown out of court as a result of
this being a speed trap, and Bob Johnson explained that Sgt. Metcalf had the Officers writing
warning tickets, knowing that any ticket they would write would not be valid.
Sgt. Byler stated that when a speed limit on a street is too low, the Police cannot issue a ticket
unless they are exceeding the 55 mile per hour limit. They want to be able to ticket those drivers
who are going under 55 and want to be able to take them into court and win.
Commissioner Green requested Sgt. Byler to explain the process of warning tickets and how that
is determined.
Sgt. Byler stated the Police Officer has the discretion to issue a warning citation, and in an area
where the speed limit is not supported by an Engineering and Traffic Survey, that is all that the
Officers will write, unless the motorist is traveling over 55 miles per hour. When the speed limit
is supported by Surveys, then radar can be used to issue tickets. Sgt. Byler stated that legally
the Police cannot write tickets that are not valid.
Chairman Courtney stated that the Goulet decision has been in effect for many years, but was
not rigidly enforced. It is now being enforced by the courts.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Johnson stated that the Engineering Department cannot devote all its time to checking the
speed limits and conducting new Engineering and Traffic Surveys. However, on the busiest
streets in the City, the Department is conducting the Surveys to update all the existing speed
limits, and those will be brought before the Commission. At this time, if there is no valid survey
that has been taken within the last five years on file in the court, the tickets written for that street
will be thrown out by the court.
In reply to Commission query, Mr, Johnson explained that the Police have a book with the posted
speed limits and know where they want to conduct speed enforcement, based on complaints or
other problems, and have a list of the top ten streets in the City for enforcement.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Green, the Traffic Safety Commission adopted the
recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee to establish a
prima facie speed limit on Paseo Del Norte from Car Country Drive to Poinsettia
Lane at 40 miles per hour based upon the results of the Engineering and Traffic
Surveys.
AYES: Courtney, Anear, Blake, Green and Stachoviak
B. Traffic Safetv Commission Resolution of Commendation for Bud Green - Action Item
Bob Johnson stated that it has been the standard practice over the last four or five years to honor
the outgoing Chairman with a Resolution of Commendation. He asked for Commission action.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Stachoviak, the Traffic Safety Commission voted to
consider adoption of a Resolution of Commendation for outgoing Chairman
Green.
AYES: Courtney, Anear, Blake and Stachoviak
ABSTAIN: Green
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Anear asked about making two lanes for left turns from El Camino Real going south onto
Carlsbad Village Drive, and Mr. Johnson replied that due to the narrow median and the width of the
roadway, there is not sufficient room for two lanes. Mr. Anear said that at Marron Road going north on
El Camino, could the signal timing be changed, and Mr. Johnson replied that Caltrans has those signals
timed and their Engineers have studied that intersection.
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REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Mr. Johnson reported that Thelma Hayes has requested an update on the Pedestrian Action Plan, and
this item will be on the March 6 Commission agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Regular Meeting of February 6, 1995, was adjourned at 3:40 p.m.
Respectfully submi ed,
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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