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MEmNG OF: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DATE OF MEmNG: March 6,1995
TIME OF MEmNG: 3:OO p.m. PLACE OF MEETING: Ci Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Courtney called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
Present: Commissioners Courtney, Anear, Blake and Green.
Absent: Commissioner Stachoviak.
Staff Members Present: Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
Sgt. Jim Byler
Walter Brown, Principal Civil Engineer
Jim Murray, Associate Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
On motion by Commissioner Anear, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held February 6, 1995,
were approved as presented.
AYES: Courtney, Anear, Blake and Green
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-agenda item.
PRMOUS BUSINESS:
Bob Johnson stated there was one action item before the Commission.
Chairman Courtney presented a Resolution of Commendation to outgoing Chairman Green and
congratulated Commissioner Green on a successful year as Chairman of the Traffic Safety Commission.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Pedestrian Action Plan - Request for Status Report
Bob Johnson gave the staff report, stating this was a request from Thelma Hayes to update the
Pedestrian Action Plan. He stated that there has been recent action taken on two of the Key
Elements, and there are two Engineers present today to report on those items.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mr. Johnson stated that there was an update to the Circulation Element last year, and Key
Element No. 2 involves the sidewalk construction. He added that Key Elements Nos. 3, 4 and 5
have been reported on to the Commission in the past and there is no new information at this time.
Jim Murray, Associate Engineer, reported on Key Element No. 1 , stating the Circulation Element
of the General Plan was amended in August of 1994, with a re-write of the Circulation Element
and a complete re-formatting, with separate goals, objectives and policies and an implementation
action plan.
Mr. Murray stated the pedestrian issues are addressed in the new General Plan Circulation
Element. He stated he had reviewed the Minutes of the Planning Commission and City Council
and there were no direct pedestrian issues brought up at the public hearings. In all of the
workshops and forums prior to the amending of the General Plan, there were only nine comments
made with regard to pedestrian issues, with most of the requests being addressed in the sidewalk
program.
Chairman Courtney commented that when the initial industrial parks were built, there were no
sidewalks included. However, now that many people jog during their break times or at noon,
sidewalks are being included in the new parks.
Walter Brown, Principal Civil Engineer, stated the City has been completing sidewalk segments
in the Northwest Quadrant, with emphasis on the areas that are routes children take to and from
the schools. He stated a Sidewalk Inventory was compiled and approved in 1991.
Commissioner Green inquired about a segment of missing sidewalk on Tamarack and Mr. Brown
explained that the property owner there did not want to have the sidewalk installed until July 1,
1996, at which time she would give the City the right-of-way. The City is going to wait until then
rather than try to force the installation sooner.
Commissioner Anear stated that in 1962, residents of the Barrio paid for the installation of
sidewalks in their area and he asked who is paying for the sidewalks being installed now. He
asked whether the residents are being required to pay for curb, gutters and sidewalks where they
were bonded to pay for those improvements.
Mr. Brown responded that when an individual has developed their property and has gone beyond
a certain dollar figure, they must sign a future improvement agreement. Where there is no future
improvement agreement, the individual property owner does not have to contribute to the cost
of improvements in front of that property. Mr. Brown stated that if there is an existing house in
the City with no sidewalks, and the City installs sidewalks, then the City has to pay the cost of that
installation; people cannot be forced to pay for sidewalks.
Chairman Courtney opened the meeting for public testimony at 3:30 p.m., and issued the
invitation to speak.
Thelma Hayes, 580 Laguna Drive, thanked the Commission for evaluating the progress in the
Carlsbad Pedestrian Action Pian, stating this is the seventh anniversary of the Plan. She said she
is grateful for the sidewalks that have been installed in the downtown area, but is still very
concerned about the lack of sidewalks adjoining the post office, north on Madison Street. Mrs.
Hayes stated that pedestrians must walk in the street, along the outside of the parked cars. She
added that north on Roosevelt Street, there are no street lights.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
Mrs. Hayes stated that man’s first mode of transportation depended on legs and feet, and it is
hoped that the action part of the Pedestrian Plan will encourage a return to a greater use of these
appendages by providing all the things necessary to make it easier, safer and more pleasant to
walk. Mrs. Hayes asked the Commission to take a more proactive stance rather than a reactive
stance. She stated she would like the Commission to consider inviting citizens to present ideas
on where sidewalks and walkways would aid those who walk and would enhance the pleasure
of walking. She suggested a campaign similar to the one a few years ago where the City asked
citizens to return a postcard telling where there were potholes that needed repair. The citizens
could let the City know where there are missing sidewalks. This would not only get people
interested in walking, but in the conditions under which they do walk.
Mrs. Hayes stated that one of Carlsbad’s greatest assets is the ocean, and yet there is limited
access to the ocean, as there are only four railroad crossings in the City. People are forced to
drive to the beach instead of walking, and Mrs. Hayes stated the money used to provide more
parking spaces in the Village area would soon pay for a railroad crossing.
Mrs. Hayes stated that she had been asked by the Buena Vista Foundation to bring to the
attention of the Commission the pedestrian linkage that a boardwalk would create from south Hill
Street to the Coaster station, as well as between the Nature Center and Maxton Brown Park.
Mrs. Hayes stated that the City should work with NCTD to get people to walk to the bus stop or
the Coaster and provide sidewalks for the children to walk to school. She suggested having a
unique design for bus stop benches, with perhaps a competition for the design. A map of the
areas near schools so the children would know where the safe routes exist for walking would be
one way to keep so many parents from driving their children to school; also this could include bus
linkage points.
Chairman Courtney thanked Mrs. Hayes for her efforts and many years of work for the pedestrians
in Carlsbad.
Bea Carlson, 3390 Adams, stated she feels deeply about the pedestrian problems, since she does
not drive a car. She raised the question of paving at least one side of Chestnut from Roosevelt
to Tyler Court, because there are apartments in that area and people have to walk in the middle
of Chestnut Street if they want to go to Roosevelt Street. The path that is there is used by the
dogs that are walked in that area, so in order to avoid the dog dirt, the street is the only place
to walk.
Ms. Carlson stated she would like the parking ordinance enforced on Roosevelt Street, as the
people who live there park on the sidewalk, forcing pedestrians to walk in the street. Also, there
are shrubs that hang over the sidewalk and make walking there difficult.
Ms. Carlson stated that Roger Wood, the Manager of Tyler Court, could not be here today and
requested her to underscore the need for that sidewalk.
Ms. Carlson stated that when older people and young mothers with children walk to the bus stop,
they need a bench to sit on to wait for the bus. She said that some thought should be given to
benches at the bus stops. She also requested a street sign for Adams Street at Basswood.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Continued)
There was a discussion about bus stop benches, with Mr. Johnson explaining that the City does
not allow advertising on the benches and the City is not in the bench business. The Parks and
Recreation Department did repair a bench and will be installing it at the Pi0 Pic0 and Chestnut
Avenue intersection, that Ms. Carlson reported to the City. The City does not have an inventory
of bus benches and it is not a City policy to install bus benches.
Chairman Courtney stated that providing bus stop benches is very expensive and also very
expensive to maintain, due to vandalism. The transit company can't afford to do it and the cities
have no way to do it. The advertising companies do install them, but in Carlsbad, as Mr. Johnson
stated, the City has a policy that does not allow advertising on the benches; therefore, the
advertising companies will not provide them free of charge.
Commissioner Anear suggested that some of the service organizations could donate benches for
the bus stops.
Lois Friedlander, 2245 Nob Hill Drive, stated she walks through the parking lot to Madison Street,
where she parks, and it is a real hazard to pedestrians because there are no sidewalks and cars
frequently make U-turns there. She stated that since the City has a policy not to build or buy bus
stop benches and does not allow advertising on benches, perhaps this Commission should make
a recommendation to the Council to allow advertising on benches, with the service organizations
donating the benches. This would be less expensive than providing more and more parking
spaces.
Ms. Friedlander stated that she had made this comment at one of the workshops and would
repeat it now, and that is that at the shopping mall on El Camino Real, walking on the outside of
the mall is very difficult. Also, to walk from the center where Marshall's is located to the center
where Bullock's is located is hazardous, as there are sidewalks of sorts on the outside of the
parking lot. There are no specific paths to encourage pedestrians that are safe and pleasant with
trees and flowers to make the walk pleasant. Ms. Friedlander stated that the designs for
commercial centers should be made pedestrian friendly.
Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, Chairman Courtney closed the public testimony
at 4:06 p.m.
There was no action by the Commission, as this was an information item.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Green stated that people park in the 'No Parking' zone on Glasgow in front of Calavera
Park, creating a hazard with children running between the illegally parked cars. He inquired whether the
enforcement could be accelerated in that area.
Sgt. Byler stated he will take action on this problem.
Sgt. Byler introduced Officer Andy Collier, who is in training in the Police Department as an Accident
Investigator.
Commissioner Blake stated that the skateboarders really use the parking lots on Roosevelt and Carlsbad
Village Drive, making it unpleasant for pedestrians.
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Sgt. Byler stated that there is a real problem with the skateboarders versus the pedestrians, and
particularly in the parking lots. The Police Department receives frequent calls and the skateboarders just
move from place to place.
REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER:
Mr. Johnson had no report at this time.
ADJOURNMENT:
BY Proper motion, the Regular Meeting of March 6, 1995, was adjourned at 4:i 7 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, /li&w
Harriett B bitt
Minutes Clerk