HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-12-01; Traffic Safety Commission; MinutesMEETING OF TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING : TIME OF MEETING: 3:OO P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING:
December 1,2003 (Regular Meeting)
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Jerry Schall called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Staff Members Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
November 3,2003
Chairperson Jerry Schall
Vice-Chairperson Gordon Cress
Commissioner Steve Dorsey
Commissioner Susan J. Gardner
Commissioner Jim Courtney
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer,
Transportation Division
Lt. Mike Shipley, Carlsbad Police Department
ACTION: Motion by Vice-Chairperson Cress, and duly seconded by Commissioner
Dorsey, to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of November 3,
2003 as presented.
VOTE 3-0-1 AYES: Schall, Cress, Dorsey
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Gardner
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ITEM 4 - ORAL COMMUNICATION:
None
ITEM 5 - PREVIOUS BUSINESS:
Mentioning a previous Traffic Safety Commission recommendation, Robert Johnson,
Deputy City Engineer, Transportation Division, advised the Commission that the agenda item for
the Alga Road and Estrella de Mar Road intersection is in the process of being scheduled for
action by the City Council in December or January.
NEW BUSINESS
ITEM 6A Paseo Allso/Camino Robledo intersection - Request for painted crosswalk.
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer, Transportation Division, stated that agenda item 6A
centers around the intersection of Paseo Aliso and Camino Robledo. Referring to an overhead
slide, Mr. Johnson described the intersection as a T' intersection located northerly of
Calle Barcelona, in the vicinity of El Camino Creek Elementary School. Paseo Aliso has a
striped left-turn and right-turn lane at Camino Robledo and is controlled with a stop sign at
Camino Robledo. Camino Robledo is uncontrolled, meaning that there are no stop signs.
Vehicles do not have to stop at the intersection of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo, however, the
vehicles do have to yield to pedestrians crossing the intersection or to other vehicles in the
intersection. City streets in the area have been built to City standards with curb and gutter,
sidewalk, and street lights.
El Camino Creek Elementary School is located at the corner of Paseo Aliso and Paseo Tulipero,
southerly of the Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo intersection. The subject intersection is used as a
school crossing. The citizen request that staff had received was for a painted crosswalk on the
west leg of the PaseoAliso/Camino Robledo intersection in order to assist the school
pedestrians that cross the street.
Mr. Johnson mentioned that transportation to school via school busses has been eliminated this
year due to the budget crisis at all of the school districts. This has lead to an increase in
pedestrians and bicyclists going to school, and an increase in the number of vehicles being
driven to the schools.
Due to the proximity of the subject intersection to the elementary school, staff investigated
whether the intersection of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo could be considered for an all-way
stop. Mr. Johnson stated that the intent of the stop sign is to assign the right-of-way, which can
help minimize conflicts between pedestrians and vehicles. He also stated that staff considered
the request for a painted crosswalk.
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The highest volume entering Paseo Aliso and Camino Robledo intersection is in the morning, from 7:OO a.m. to 8:OO a.m. This time period coincides with the time students are arriving at the school. Mr. Johnson stated that staff did conduct turning movement counts for the one hour period before and after a normal school session. From the data collected, it was determined that many pedestrians cross on the west side of the intersection where there are disabled ramps located on the north and south side of Camino Robledo, the west leg of the intersection.
Mr. Johnson stated that it is legal for pedestrians to cross on the east side of the intersection, but the recommendation will be to only paint a yellow crosswalk on the west side of the
intersection to encourage pedestrians on the north side of Camino Robledo to cross on the west leg of the intersection. This would remove the need for pedestrians to cross the street twice.
In conclusion, Mr. Johnson stated with consideration of this intersection being a school crossing, the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee unanimously recommended that an all-way stop be installed at the intersection of Paseo Aliso and Camino Robledo, and that a yellow painted crosswalk be installed on the west side of the intersection.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Chairperson Schall opened public testimony.
AI Rodbell, 2227 Camino Robledo, Carlsbad, CA, is concerned that signs will be ignored and he thinks that it is redundant to have a stop sign and a crosswalk at the same location since motorists should yield to pedestrians in a crosswalk by law. He stated that he does not want to endanger the children. Mr. Rodbell stated that besides the arriving and departing from school traffic, the vehicle traffic is very low. Therefore, there will be drivers that will not abide by the signs and that will harm a “sense of responsibility in general”. Motorists driving westbound have a full view of the intersection and can see if pedestrians are crossing or not. Mr. Rodbell asked if it is possible or even a consideration to install a stop sign on the west leg only.
Chairperson Schall answered AI Rodbell that it is possible to consider the installation of a stop sign on only the west leg of the intersection, but it will have to be discussed.
Mr. Rodbell stated that the advantages of installing a stop sign on the west leg only is that it would protect the children and there would not be a sign that is perhaps redundant and lead to an inadvertent effect of diminishing motorist’s responsibility to obey the general law.
Alison Reynolds, 2232 Corte Ananas, Carlsbad, CA, mentioned a tot lot that she takes her children to which is located on Camino Robledo at the end of Calle Pinabete. She stated that her friends and other drivers will drive 50 miles an hour sometimes on Camino Robledo while she is trying to cross the street to the tot lot. Ms. Reynolds stated that the drivers do not slow down or stop when she is attempting to cross the street or even when she is in the street. She stated that she would like to have the crosswalk on the west leg of the intersection of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo or a crosswalk at the intersection of Camino Robledo/Calle Pinabete. She is a big advocate of the installation of a crosswalk on Camino Robledo. She stated that parents are not paying attention to the street environment and are only concentrating on dropping off their children and heading to work. Ms. Reynolds stated that people do not drive 25 miles an hour on Camino Robledo. Ms. Reynolds stated that she would have been happy if there was just a crosswalk, but the installation of stop signs also is even better.
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Tim Wright, 2219 Camino Robledo, Carlsbad, CA, agreed with the previous testimony about the
excess speeding on the roads. Mr. Wright thinks that the crosswalk and stop signs would be in
the best interest of the neighborhood children. Mr. Wright asked if the entire traffic flow in the
vicinity of the school was studied.
Chairman Schall asked staff to respond.
Mr. Johnson mentioned that the intersection and school area was addressed by the staff over
the years before and after school opened and when various traffic concerns in the school area
were brought to the City’s attention. The request for the striped crosswalk at the intersection of
Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo was investigated in relation to the intersection’s vehicle volume,
collision history, and being a school crossing.
Tim Wright applauds the efforts of his neighbors who are behind the installation of the crosswalk
and stop signs because he thinks vehicle’s speeds are too fast, but he thinks the efforts at the
intersection need to expand down to the intersection of Paseo AlisoNia Adelfa. Mr. Wright
believes that vehicle speeds on Paseo Aliso are higher than the speeds on Camino Robledo.
He stated that Camino Robledo is a speed way, but Paseo Aliso is the “Indi 500”. He stated that
staff is ignoring the whole section of neighborhood who lives on Via Adelfa since there are
children that cross Paseo Aliso to go to school. There is a gate on school property just south of
Via Adelfa that opens up to the school yard allowing school pedestrians to enter, and this invites
pedestrians to cross the street at that location. Tim Wrights suggests that staff looks at both
intersections of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo and Paseo AlisoNia Adelfa.
Chairman Schall noted to Tim Wright that the agenda item for December 1, 2003 is just for the
intersection of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo.
Kathrine Flesh, 2208 Camino Robledo, Carlsbad, CA, agreed with Tim Wright’s comment about
the issue at the intersection of Paseo AlisoNia Adelfa and she thinks that people who live on
Via Adelfa seriously need a crosswalk on one of the legs of Paseo Aliso. Speed is a huge issue
on Camino Robledo to where she has a hard time backing out of her driveway and she will not
let her three year old child play out front. She specifically mentioned that teenagers are driving
recklessly though the intersection. Ms. Flesh thinks that three crosswalks should be installed
because the children inundate the intersection of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo by crossing
diagonally and all over. She stated that parents are letting their children walk to school
unattended.
Ms. Flesh mentioned how it is difficult to make a left or right hand turn from Paseo Aliso onto
Camino Robledo because drivers cut across Camino Robledo and completely go in your lane of
traffic. Her concern is that people begin their turn in the intersection because there is no stop
sign.
David Quessenberry, 2243 Camino Robledo, Carlsbad, CA, stated that he lives next to the tot
lot that has been previously addressed and he also has concerns about the speeding on
Camino Robledo. Mr. Quessenberty understands that stop signs are not speed devices.
He stated that there is a stop sign on Calle Pinabete at Camino Robledo. He said people do
kind of acknowledge the stop sign, although people still do not abide by the legal meaning of the
stop sign and they run the stop sign.
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Mr. Quessenberry said that installing the stop sign would help break the speed of the vehicles.
He also mentioned that vehicles make the turn onto Paseo Aliso with little consideration to the
right-of-way. Mr. Quessenberry stated that the intersection gets ignored in terms of right-of-way
issues at all times of the day. At night, there are children on skateboards, bicycles, and running
around in the vicinity of the Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo intersection. He stated that an all-way
stop and two additional painted crosswalks would be beneficial to the neighborhood and the
safety of the children.
Ms. Flesh asked if the fines would increase if there were three crosswalks instead of two at the
intersections.
Chairperson Schall stated that fines would not be increased with additional crosswalks.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Dorsey asked if there was any reason that the Tuesday turning movement study
was conducted and is this a typical school year weekday morning.
Mr. Johnson replied by stating that the staff tries to do a study on a "typical" day in a school
zone. The staff does not do studies if it is a minimum day or other school activities affect the
normal school schedule.
Commissioner Gardner asked if there is going to be any police suppodattendance at the
intersection after the installation of the painted crosswalk and stop signs because it might be
more dangerous for a period of time for pedestrians who are in the crosswalks due to those
motorists who have not yet acknowledged the newly installed stop signs.
Mr. Johnson replied by addressing the engineering aspect and stated that when stop signs are
installed, precautions are taken by painting a stop legend and a white limit line, and installing a
"Stop Ahead" warning sign. There is an expectation that drivers will comply with the traffic
control device that will be installed.
Lt. Shipley replied that the Police Department does not always go in search of newly installed
stop signs and they do not try to target inattentive motorists. In this particular case, Lt. Shipley
stated that the Police Department will try and build a presence. There are traffic officers
assigned at each school and it is the officer's responsibility to be aware of what is happening
around the school.
Chairperson Schall commented that there should be an all-way stop sign other than a single
stop sign installed for the purpose to stop traffic so children can cross the street safely.
Commissioner Dorsey asked if the correct procedure for another study to be done for the
Paseo AlisoNia Adelfa intersection in order to install one or more additional stop signs is to
request City Council to direct staff.
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Mr. Johnson replied by stating that Via Adelfa is very close to Camino Robledo and the City
does not install stop signs at every intersection along a street. The intention at the intersection
of Paseo Aliso/Camino Robledo was that pedestrians from Via Adelfa would walk the short
distance, a few hundred feet, to Camino Robledo and cross Paseo Aliso where a stop sign
currently exists. There is an expectation at other schools where pedestrians walk that they may
travel a little further and out of direction to cross the street in order to take advantage of painted
crosswalks and a controlled intersection.
Mr. Johnson also stated that the Paseo AlisoNia Adelfa intersection would not meet the
warrants for an all-way stop.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Vice-Chairperson Cress, and duly seconded by Commissioner
Dorsey, to accept the recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating
Committee, to establish an all-way stop at the Paseo Aliso/Camino
Robledo intersection by installing stop signs on Camino Robledo and also
to install a striped yellow crosswalk on only the west leg of the
intersection.
VOTE: 4-0-0
AYES Schall, Cress, Dorsey, Gardner
NOES None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Johnson stated that an ordinance will be required to be adopted by the City Council to
establish the all-way stop.
ITEM 6B: Woodstock Street, Glasgow Drive to Lancaster Road - Request to establish
a prima facie speed limit.
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer Transportation Division, stated that item 68 concerns
Woodstock Street in the Calavera Hills area. Staff received a request from The Cape at
Calavera Hills Board of Directors to install speed limit signs on Woodstock Street.
Referring to the overhead slide, Mr. Johnson stated that Woodstock Street is about 0.3 miles in
length and it terminates into a cul-de-sac. There is a sidewalk on the north side of the street and
the curb-to-curb width of the street is about 32 feet. This street is controlled at Glasgow Drive
with a stop sign.
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Woodstock Street is located in a residential area, but it is unclassified on the circulation element
of the general plan. There are no homes that front directly onto the road and no driveways,
therefore the road does not qualify as a residence district per the requirements of the California
Vehicle Code.
Consequently, in order to establish a prima facie speed limit, an Engineering and Traffic Survey must be conducted. Staff did conduct an Engineering and Traffic Survey in accordance with the state law and as required by procedures in the Caltrans Traffic Manual.
Mr. Johnson mentioned that there are many factors that are considered in the survey such as critical speed, collision history, and any conditions on the road that are not apparent to the
driver. On Woodstock Street, the critical speed, 85* percentile, was found to be 30 miles per
hour based on a speed survey. The critical speed is the speed at which 85 percent of thevehicles are traveling at or below. There have been no reported traffic collisions on Woodstock Street in the two year period ending September 30, 2003. There are also no conditions that would not be readily apparent to the driver. Woodstock Street does have moderate pedestrian and bicycle activity.
In conclusion, Mr. Johnson said that based on the results of the Engineering and Traffic Survey, the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommends establishing a prima facie 25 mile per
hour speed limit upon Woodstock Street from Glasgow Drive to Lancaster Road.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY:
Chairperson Schall opened public testimony.
As there was no public testimony, Chairperson Schall closed public testimony and called for a Commission discussion.
DISCUSSION:
Vice-Chairperson Cress stated that he had driven Woodstock Street and stated that although the street did not meet State Department of Transportation requirements for a residential street,
he views Woodstock Street as a residential street. Vice-Chairperson Cress stated that he supports the prima facie 25 mile per hour speed limit.
Commissioner Dorsey asked if this action would involve posting speed limit signs.
Mr. Johnson explained that this item would have to go to City Council. During the first week, the City Council will introduce the ordinance. The second week they will adopt the ordinance
and then the prima facie speed limit goes into effect thirty days later. Mr. Johnson explained that
during the thirty days, staff will issue a work order to the Streets Department sign shop to install
speed limit signs and will be installed close to when the thirty-day period ends. If this street
qualified as a residence district, then staff could have issued work orders to install 25 mile per
hour speed limit signs without first having an ordinance approved.
Commissioner Dorsey asked what the current speed limit is on Woodstock Street.
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Mr. Johnson replied that by law the speed limit is currently 55 miles per hour because it is
unposted and is a two lane road. Therefore, this action lowers the speed limit, although
Basic Speed Law always prevails and the drivers do have to drive what is reasonable and
prudent based on conditions on the road. Basic Speed Law would dictate that drivers should drive much slower than 55 miles per hour, but there are technicalities of the law as to speed limits.
Chairperson Schall asked what the Police Department duty was if citizens complained that drivers are going too fast on Woodstock and the speed limit is not posted.
Lt. Shipley replied that currently the Police Department would have to enforce the 55 mile per hour speed limit on Woodstock Street. Even with the 25 mile per hour speed limit posting, Lt. Shipley stated that there would be limited police officer presence on Woodstock Street, with the exception of receiving a specific complaint.
Mr. Johnson stated that if the police do get called out to a location and there is no prima facie speed limit previously established, then the police will notify the Transportation Division to conduct an Engineering and Traffic Survey. The item would then go to the Traffic Safety
Commission and then to the City Council. For this specific item, Woodstock Street is very short in length and has a low volume of vehicles. Therefore, Woodstock Street is not a typical street that sees a lot of police enforcement and in this case the request for signs was initiated by the Board of Directors.
Chairperson Schall commented that Woodstock Street is part of a residential area. The majority of people who will drive on Woodstock Street are those people who live in the area. There are condominiums and apartment houses which may have home owners associations and
apartment owners. Chairperson Schall suggested that these organizationdresidents should tell the driverdresidents to slow down. He is concerned that police will be issuing speeding tickets to those drivers that reside in the area when the community should be "policing" themselves.
Mr. Johnson replied by stating it is a closed community meaning Woodstock Street is not a through street. There are not many people who live outside the community around Woodstock Street and if there is speeding, it is most likely a resident of the community.
Vice-Chairperson Cress stated that he lives in a similar community where there are posted
25 mile per hour speed limit signs which residents do not always abide by. Therefore, the police were called to monitor the area and there were homeowners that were issued speeding tickets.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Vice-Chairperson Cress, and duly seconded by Commissioner Gardner, to accept the recommendation of the
Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee, to establish a prima facie 25 mile per hour speed limit upon Woodstock Street from Glasgow
Drive to Lancaster Road.
VOTE 4-0-0 AYES: Schall, Cress, Dorsey, Gardner NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
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Mr. Johnson stated an ordinance will be required to be adopted by the City Council to establish
the 25 mile per hour prima facie speed limit.
ITEM 6C: Middleton Drive, Giasgow Drive to Woodstock Street - Request to establish a prlma facie speed limit.
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer, Transportation Division, stated that Item 6C is basically a companion to the previous item in that Middleton Drive intersects Woodstock Street on the
south side and is located in the Calavera Hills area, easterly of the Calavera Hills Community
Park. Middleton Drive is a short street with a length of 0.18 miles from Glasgow Drive to
Woodstock Street.
Middleton Drive is controlled with a stop sign at Glasgow Drive and a yield sign at Woodstock Street. It serves a residential community. Middleton Drive is a curvilinear road that allows
parking only on the south and west side of the street. Vehicle volumes are low. Staff conducted a traffic count on November 5, 2003 and it was found that 668 vehicles travel on Middleton Road in a 24-hour time period.
There are six streets that intersect Middleton Drive. Sidewalk is only provided on the south and west side of the road. There has been some red curb and No Parking signs installed to minimize corner sight distance limitations due to parked vehicles at several of the intersections.
Middleton Drive is in a residential area, but the road does not qualify as a residence district. Therefore, an Engineering and Traffic Survey was required to be conducted by staff. This was in response to the request of The Board of Directors of The Cape at Calavera Hills to install speed
limit signs.
Due to the curvilinear alignment of the road, the critical speed was found to be 20 miles per hour
in the curved portion of the road. The general operating speed is about 25 miles per hour on the remainder of Middleton Drive. The road is not conducive to high speeds. The vehicle volume is
very low. On November 4, 2003, it took about five and one-half hours to gather a sample of 50
vehicles for the speed survey. Middleton Drive is not a typical street that staff would initiate establishing a prima facie speed limit upon. However, a request was made and staff is following
through on that request. Basic Speed Law applies on Middleton Drive as was discussed in the
previous item.
In conclusion, Mr. Johnson stated that the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommends that on Middleton Drive from Glasgow Drive to Woodstock Street a prima facie 25 mile per hour speed limit be established.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Chairperson Schall opened public testimony.
As there was no public testimony, Chairperson Schall closed public testimony and called for a
Commission discussion.
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DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Dorsey stated that with this recommendation, that the City is asking drivers to speed up.
Mr. Johnson replied that the operating speed in most locations on Middleton Drive is 25 miles per hour. The speed survey found the critical speed lower than the operating speed in just that one location. It is difficult to get a good speed survey on such a short, curvilinear road.
Commissioner Dorsey mentioned that this prima facie speed limit is not one staff would have initiated and it is being done at the request of the homeowners association.
Mr. Johnson replied by stating that staff has options. They could ignore the request, which staff would not do, orwe could put speed limit signs up that would not be supported by an Engineering and Traffic Survey. If speed limit signs were installed without being supported by the results of an Engineering and Traffic Survey, then the police would not be able to enforce the speed limit with radar. Therefore, staff felt obligated to follow through with the proper procedures to establish a speed limit on Middleton Drive.
Vice-Chairperson Cress stated that he drove on Middleton Drive and that 25 miles per hour is adequate.
Chairperson Schall asked what would happen if there are constant complaints for the Police Department to enforce the speeds of the vehicles. He is concerned that it would take up too much police time on such a small road when there are other roads that need attention by the police for speeding.
Lt. Shipley replied that the Police Department tracks the number of complaints in specific areas and the Police Department always addresses the complaints at least once. An officer will be sent out to monitor the area and see if the problem can be identified. An officer will always address the person with the complaint to get a full understanding of the problem. Lt. Shipley stated that the Police Department prioritizes all their activity based primarily on collision profiles. The Police Department works the area where the collisions are occurring and they evaluate/work these areas primarily. A majority of the traffic officers' time is to address collision locations.
Chairperson Schall closed discussion and called for a motion.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Dorsey, and duly seconded by Commissioner Gardner, to accept the recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee, to establish a prima facie 25 mile per hour speed limit on Middleton Drive from Glasgow Drive to Woodstock Street.
VOTE: 4-0-0 AYES: Schall, Cress, Dorsey, Gardner NOES: None ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Johnson stated an ordinance will be required to be adopted by the City Council to establish the 25 mile per hour prima facie speed limit.
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ITEM 6D: Public parking lot across from the Hardlng Community Center
located at 3096 Hardlng Street - Request to establlsh a parking restrlction at night.
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer, Transportation Division, stated that he wanted to bring clarification to staffs recommendation on this item, the same item that was discussed at the November Traffic Safety Commission.
A few months ago, there were a number of options for time limits to prohibit parking in the ublic parking lot across from the Harding Community Center that were discussed by the Traffic afety Coordinating Committee (TSCC). The actual time limit recommended by the TSCC was 3:OO a.m. to 500 am.. Last month, the Traffic Safety Commission was presented the times of 12:OO a.m. to 6:OO a.m. inadvertently.
The Traffic Safety Commission agreed that the nighttime parking restriction should be in place for this particular parking lot, but Mr. Johnson wanted to clarify that the recommended times are from 3:OO a.m. to 500 am., which will eliminate the continuous 24-hour parking that occurs presently. These times will accommodate later evening activities to use the parking lot and earlier activities in the morning that require the use of the parking lot. Once the times are posted, it would be enforceable.
In conclusion, Mr. Johnson stated that the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommendation for the parking restriction is from 3:OO a.m. to 500 a.m., seven days a week for the public parking lot across from the Harding Community Center.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Chairperson Schall opened public testimony.
As there was no public testimony Chairperson Schall closed public testimony and called for a Commission discussion.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Dorsey stated that this item was sufficiently discussed last month.
As there were no additional questions or comments, Chairperson Schall closed discussion and called for a motion.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Dorsey, and duly seconded by Vice- Chairperson Cress, to accept the recommendation of the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee, thereby establishing a No Parking restriction in the public parking lot across from the Harding Community Center between the hours of 3:OO a.m. and 500 a.m., seven days a week.
VOTE: A-n-n
AYES: Schall, Cress, Dorsey, Gardner NOES: None ABSTAIN: None
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Mr. Johnson stated an ordinance will be required to be adopted by the City Council to establish the time restriction for No Parking in the public parking lot.
ITEM 7
None
Report from Traffic Safety Commissioners
ITEM 8
Mr. Johnson stated the next regular meeting of the Traffic Safety Commission would take place
on Monday, January 5,2004 at 3:OO p.m.
Report from Traffic Englneer
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairperson Jerry Schall adjourned the Regular Meeting of December 1,2003 at 3:46 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Teala Cotter
Engineering Technician II, Transportation Division