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MEETING OF: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: TIME OF MEETING: 3:OO p.m.
PLACE OF MEETING: Faraday Center
January 3,2005 (Regular Meeting)
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chair Dorsey called the Meeting to order at 3:OO p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Staff Members Present:
Vice-Chair Steve Dorsey
Commissioner Guy Roney
Commissioner Bonnie Bradshaw
Commissioner Susan Gardner
Chair Gordon Cress
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer, Transportation
Lt. Don Rawson, Carlsbad Police Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
December 6,2004
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Bradshaw, and duly seconded by
Commissioner Gardner to approve the minutes of the regular meeting
of December 6,2004 as presented.
VOTE: 3-0-1
AYES: Gardner, Dorsey, Bradshaw
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Roney
ITEM 4 - ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no requests to address the Commission on any non-agenda items.
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ITEM 5 - PREVIOUS BUSINESS:
Mr. Johnson stated that he had no previous items to report to the Commission.
ITEM 6 -NEW BUSINESS:
ITEM 6A. Request for a STOP sign on Cadencia Street at its intersection with Romeria
Street.
Robert Johnson, Deputy City Engineer, addressed the Commission stating that the purpose of this
item was initiated by a Carlsbad resident, Toni Kubilus. Ms. Kubilus lives in the area of the subject
location of Romeria Streedcadencia Street intersection. Both of these streets are local streets in a
residential area. Referring to Exhibit 1, Mr. Johnson stated that Cadencia Street is a T-intersection
with Romeria Street.
One of the conditions at an intersection that may warrant the installation of a STOP sign on the
minor street is when, for sight distance purposes, the safe approach speed to the intersection is less
than 10 miles per hour. There have been other similar issues before the Commission over the last
several months.
Mr. Johnson stated that Romeria Street has about a nine percent centerline grade sloping from the
south to the north. Romeria Street is posted at 25 miles per hour and the clear intersection approach
sight triangle distance required would be 155 feet. This would allow a driver on Romeria Street to
observe the intersection of Cadencia Street for approaching vehicles and stop in time to avoid a
conflict. It also provides the distance for a vehicle on Cadencia Street that is approaching the
intersection to observe vehicles on Romeria Street, and to take action to either slow or stop the
vehicle to avoid a codlict.
Mr. Johnson explained that when there is a grade on the major roadway greater than three percent,
there is an adjustment in the required intersection approach sight triangle distance. The northbound
approach to the intersection would require1 7 1 feet stopping sight distance. For a northbound vehicle
on Romeria Street approaching Cadencia Street there is only 70 feet of visibility for the driver on
Cadencia Street to observe vehicles on Romeria Street from a distance of 50 feet from the
intersection. There is significant landscaping on the southeast comer of Cadencia Street that reduces
the available sight distance.
In the uphill direction proceeding from the north to the south, Mr. Johnson stated that the
intersection approach sight triangle distance available is 155 feet. Since 140 feet is required, there is
sufficient intersection approach sight triangle distance for the driver on Cadencia Street to observe
southbound Romeria Street vehicles.
Mr. Johnson reported that staff conducted a short observation of fifteen minutes at the intersection of
Romeria Street and Cadencia Street. Staff found that most drivers treat the intersection as a stop
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condition for Cadencia Street. Out of thirty-seven drivers that were noted during the observation
period, thirty-six of them either slowed to less than 10 miles per hour or came to a complete stop.
Drivers are treating Cadencia Street at this intersection as a stop condition. Staff conducted this
evaluation to determine driver reaction at the intersection in its existing condition in comparison to if
a stop sign were to be installed.
Mr. Johnson stated that based on the limited intersection approach sight triangle for the driver on
Cadencia Street at Romeria Street, the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommends
installing a STOP sign on Cadencia Street at its intersection with Romeria Street.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Bradshaw stated that she noticed there were no stop signs on Garboso Street or on the
“no-name” street. She wanted to know why stop signs weren’t put there, and create Romeria Street
as a through-way street. Commissioner Bradshaw stated that she realized that this wasn’t on their
request, but wondered why it wasn’t.
Mr. Johnson stated that typically at residential street intersections like at Cadencia Street and
Garboso Street, stop signs are not installed because of the low volume and low speed intersection
and drivers operate with the right-of-way rule. When staff receives a request from a citizen
indicating that they are having dificulties or there is a certain level of uncomfortableness using the
intersection, then staff conducts an evaluation and provides a recommendation. However, staff does
not generally go out and try to find all of the different locations in a residential area where there is no
stop sign. Staff reacts to the request if somebody raises the issue.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated that this was the citizen’s second request for a stop sign in this area.
Mr. Johnson said that this was the first request received by staff at this particular intersection.
Commissioner Bradshaw reiterated that in the general area, it was a second request, which indicated
to her that people are concerned about traffk safety. She felt perhaps they were seeing something
that staff was not.
Mr. Johnson stated that the other request was at Morada Street and Garboso Street. That stop sign
has not been installed yet. Quite often, when a driver sees a traffic control device that is installed,
that can trigger a request for one in their neighborhood. Staff did not find a collision history at the
subject location. There is driver compliance with the right-of-way rule that is working. Staff does not
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have the time to find all T-intersections without stop signs. However, staff will evaluate an
intersection upon receiving a citizen request.
Commissioner Gardner asked for clarification for when a citizen brings these situations to staffs
attention. Does the citizen have something specific in mind, specifically what had Ms. Kubilus
observed, and does this handle whatever her concerns were?
Mr. Johnson stated that when staff spoke with Ms. Kubilus they found that she was uncomfortable
with the limited visibility at the intersection. There is landscaping on the southeast corner. The driver
on Cadencia Street approaching the intersection, if they cannot observe the cross street and traffic by
the right-of-way rule, should be stopping to observe the vehicles on Romeria Street before they
move forward. In this case, the person indicated they would be more comfortable if there were a stop
sign to clearly identifjl the assignment of right-of-way. There was no other reason given. Romeria
Street is posted at 25 miles per hour, so it is not necessarily a speed issue.
Commissioner Gardner said she was surprised that there wasn’t more interest in slowing down
vehicles because of grade in that direction.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Gardner and duly seconded by Commissioner
Roney, to recommend installing a STOP sign on Cadencia Street at its
intersection with Romeria Street.
VOTE: 4-0-0
AYES: Dorsey, Roney, Gardner, Bradshaw
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ITEM 6B. Request for a STOP sign on Unicornio Street at its intersection with Rancho
Cortes.
Mr. Johnson stated that this item was a similar request as Item 6A to have the right-of-way
assignment at the intersection of Rancho Cortes and Unicornio Street established with a STOP sign.
In this case, a local resident, Ladi Hamer, sent a letter to the Engineering Department indicating that
she thought there should be assigned right-of-way at the subject intersection and in addition, at the
intersection of Rancho Cortes and Carrillo Way. Staff is evaluating the Rancho Cortes/Carrilllo Way
intersection, and was not prepared to bring a recommendation to the Commission at this time. It was
discussed at the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee last month and the Committee asked for
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additional information about that intersection. That issue may or may not be coming to the
Commission, depending on how it is able to be resolved.
Mr. Johnson stated that the Unicornio StreetRancho Cortes intersection is before the Commission
today. It is a T-intersection. Both streets are local streets in a residential area. Staff conducted a 10
mile per hour safe approach speed evaluation to determine if there is a need for a stop sign on the
stem of the T-intersection, which in this case would be Unicornio Street. At the subject intersection,
there is a vertical curve on Rancho Cortes and the intersection is at the top of the vertical curve. In
this case, due to some of the geometry and adjoining walls, vegetation, and landscaping, there is a
slight sight distance deficiency that is created for the approach sight triangles.
Referring to the overhead, Mr. Johnson stated that an evaluation is done from fifty feet fiom the
intersection to determine if there is seicient distance, as shown in Exhibit 2. In this particular case,
the required intersection approach sight triangle distance looking to the west when a driver is on
Unicornio Street is 140 feet, because the westbound to eastbound distance has a slight uphill grade,
which causes a reduction in the distance1 55 feet required for a flat road. There is 135 feet of actual
intersection approach sight distance. hoking easterly, the approach sight triangle line of sight is
250 feet, so it exceeds the minimum of 155 feet required.
Mr. Johnson explained that because of the actual distance looking westerly being very close to the
required distance, staff conducted an observation of driver behavior to determine how drivers are
negotiating the intersection, how the right-of-way assignment is being handled. What staff found was
that in fifteen minutes nineteen vehicles were observed, and seventeen treated the intersection as a
stop when on Unicornio Street. Staff defines a stop as a vehicle either actually stopping or slowing,
their vehicle to below 10 miles per hour to observe the approach trafEc that would be on Rancho
Cortes.
The Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee recommends installing a STOP sign on Unicomio Street
at its intersection with Rancho Cortes.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Gardner stated that she had the same question as the first one. She was looking at the
citizen’s letter and she stated that the same benefit of having stop signs at both of these intersections
is that it would slow down traffic on that stretch of Rancho Cortes, which is an on-going problem.
She wanted clarification that by not putting a sign on Rancho Cortes, does that still address that
issue, does the citizen understand that there would be no stop sign on Rancho Cortes?
Mr. Johnson affirmed that the staff member who discussed the issue with Ms. Hamer before she sent
the letter went through all of the different issues of speeding in residential streets and what can be
done, what police can do, and what the Engineering Department staff can do in the way of installing
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traffic calming measures. Staff basically discussed the Carlsbad Residential Traffic Management
Program with her. Staff also sent a copy of that program to Ms. Hamer so that she could be aware of
the three-phase program that Carlsbad has. Stop signs are not intended to control speed. The City
Council was very specific in the Carlsbad Residential Traffic Management Program to indicate that
stop signs will not be used as a speed control device. After Mer discussions with the citizen about
the assignment of the right-of-way at an intersection, this is what generated the letter. When staffhas
discussions with the public, staff tries to get them to send a letter with their request and to put
reasons for the request, from their prospective, in writing to help educate the staff as to where they
are coming from. Staff indicated to Ms. Hamer to address her concern that the intersection would be
evaluated for right-of-way assignment and that is what has been done.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Vice-Chair Dorsey and duly seconded by Commissioner Roney,
to recommend installing a STOP sign on Unicornio Street at its intersection
with Rancho Cortes.
AYES: Dorsey, Roney, Gardner, Bradshaw
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
VOTE: 4-0-0
ITEM 6C. Review, comment upon, and approve the attached TSC rules and procedures,
I and adopt TSC Resolution No. 2005-1. <
Mr. Johnson stated that on a yearly basis, the Traffic Safety Commission is presented the opportunity
to review the TSC rules and procedures and they can adopt the attached resolution. The rules and
procedures were initially established in 1990. They have been revised several times over the years at
the request of the Commission, when the Commission noticed that there should be changes,
additions, or revisions to help the Commission operate more efficiently. The rules and procedures
were established strictly for the Commission. It is not something that the City Council would take
any action on and this particular matter does not go to the City Council.
Mr. Johnson stated that by bringing the rules and procedures to the Commission at a minimum of
once a year, it gives the Commission the opportunity to address any items or issues throughout the
previous calendar year that would be desired to incorporate in the currently approved rules and
procedures If there are changes to consider, then the Commission could make the appropriate
motion, and the particular changes could be made and the resolution would be brought back to the
Commissioners at the next meeting or hture meeting.
If no changes are desired, then it would be appropriate for the Commission to consider adopting the
attached resolution. If there are changes that any Commissioner would like to see incorporated, then
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the Commission would discuss the suggested revision and subject to the majority of the Commission
agreeing, then that change could be made or deleted.
DISCUSSION:
Vice-Chair Dorsey stated that he has reviewed this matter three times during his term on the
Commission and felt it works great and does what is expected for it to do. He felt it was fine as is,
without change. It meets the requirements of the Brown Act, and he feels it is just great.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Roney and duly seconded by Commissioner
Bradshaw, to recommend adoption of TSC Resolution No. 2005-1.
VOTE: 4-0-0
AYES: Dorsey, Roney, Gardner, Bradshaw
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Johnson stated that although Chair Cress was not at this meeting, he could still sign the
resolution. Staffwould indicate the “ayes” and the absent vote. Staffwill get the signatures on the
resolution and then give a copy of page 15 to each of the Commissioners for their records so all have
an official signed resolution.
ITEM 7: REPORT J?ROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS
Vice-Chair Dorsey stated that he had a conflict for the February 12* Workshop for the
Commissioners and Public Officials and would not be able to attend.
Mr. Johnson reported that both Commissioners Bradshaw and Commissioner Roney were signed up
and he will provide a status report to the Commissioners about the workshop after discussing the
matter with workshop organizers.
ITEM 8: REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER
Mr. Johnson reported that next month’s regular meeting of the Traffic Safety Commission would be
held on February 7,2005. The Council Chambers are still under construction and the Commission
may need to meet at the Faraday Center again next month, depending on how quickly the
modifications can be completed. Mr. Johnson explained that there is more to the modifications than
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just installing the ramp for the new Council Member that uses a wheelchair. There are changes to the
restrooms, lighting, sound, and cameras, and it may take some time.
The meeting location will be noted on the Commissioner’s agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
Vice-Chair Dorsey adjourned the Regular Meeting of January 3,2005 at 3:27 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Steckdaub
Minutes Clerk