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MEETING OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
TIME OF MEETING:
PLACE OF MEETING:
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
June 1,2009 (Regular Meeting)
3:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Cress called the Meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Staff Members Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
April 6,2009
ACTION:
VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Chair Gordon Cress
Vice-Chair Jack Gumming
Commissioner Guy Roney
Commissioner Jairo Valderrama
Commissioner Monir Marefat
Robert Johnson, City Engineer
John Kim, Associate Engineer
Elaine Lukey, Storm Water Manager
Lt. Don Rawson, Carlsbad Police Department
Motion by Vice-Chair Gumming, and duly seconded by
Commissioner Roney, to approve the minutes of the regular meeting
on April 6, 2009, as presented.
3-0-1
Cress, Gumming, Roney
None
Valderrama
There was no Traffic Safety Commission meeting held hi May 2009.
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ITEM 4 - ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
None.
ITEM 5 - PREVIOUS BUSINESS:
Robert Johnson, City Engineer, reported that based on a previous action and recommendation by the
Traffic Safety Commission, the City Council introduced an ordinance to revise the prima facie speed
on Poinsettia Lane from Paseo del Norte to Cassia Road, and will consider adopting the ordinance
tomorrow night at the City Council meeting to establish the speed limit at 50 miles per hour.
ITEM 6 - NEW BUSINESS:
ITEM 6A: Paseo Descanso, Carrillo Way to Paseo Cerro - Request to restrict parking at
night.
Mr. Johnson stated this item is a request to restrict parking at night on Paseo Descanso from Carrillo
Way to Paseo Cerro. It was initiated by Brian Fennel who resides at 6302 Paseo Descanso. Referring
to Exhibit 1, Mr. Johnson stated there are 22 homes in the subject area, 19 on the easterly side and 3
homes on the westerly side. A petition was submitted and signed by 41 residents on and near the
location where no overnight parking is requested. Eleven residents signed in favor of a parking
restriction at night and two residents indicated they were not in favor of a parking restriction. There
were 22 residents on Paseo Cerro that signed the petition and 4 residents mat reside on Rancho
Montana also signed the petition. Two residents south of the subject area signed the petition. For the
record, Frank Farella at 6334 Paseo Descanso, Sobia Usmani at 6342 Paseo Descanso, and Steven
Halme at 6330 Paseo Descanso telephoned and indicated they were in opposition to the parking
restrictions at night. Just prior to the meeting, he received a letter from Robert Woelffer, President of
Rancho Carrillo HOA indicating he was unable to be present at today's Traffic Safety Commission
meeting, but the HOA supports the proposed no parking overnight proposal on Paseo Descanso. In
addition to the request for a parking restriction at night, there is a request to have a red curb painted
on Paseo Descanso at the Carrillo Way intersection.
Mr. Johnson stated that Paseo Descanso is a residential street and has a curb to curb width of 40 feet,
which is common on most residential streets in Carlsbad. Parking is allowed on both sides of Paseo
Descanso. Mr. Fennel's concerns are that residents, visitors, and guests from the Cascada
condominiums are parking on Paseo Descanso just south of Carrillo Way. Mr. Fennel mentioned that
this results in turning difficulties from Carrillo Way to southbound Paseo Descanso, and the parked
vehicles restrict visibility on the road itself. Some other concerns that staff summarized from letters
and petitions received are (1) Irash/partying/noise on Paseo Descanso, (2) oil dripping from vehicles,
(3) difficulty turning from eastbound Carrillo Way to southbound Paseo Descanso due to parked
vehicles, (4) restricted visibility when vehicles park on both sides of Paseo Descanso, (5) parking in
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the intersection, (6) vandalism, (7) cars for sale, and (8) parking near access to city trails is
compromised.
Mr. Fennel expressed the same concerns about one year ago and staff conducted a study of on-street
parking on Paseo Descanso to assess the situation. A total of 27 different observations were made
and observations were conducted on each day of the week at different times. There were no traffic
and engineering problems observed that would result in a traffic engineering solution to the concerns
expressed. At that time, staff could not support the request for a parking restriction at night.
Mr. Fennel sent a letter dated January 28,2009 to the City Manager with the request that because of
parking problems of vehicles from the condominiums that there be a restriction at night The Rancho
Carrillo Master Association also sent a letter to the City Manager dated April 8,2009 indicating the
steps that they have taken to deal with the parking issues from vehicles from the condominiums.
Mr. Johnson explained in response to the petition staff received in April 2009, staff again initiated a
monitoring study of parked vehicles on Paseo Descanso. Observations were conducted 21 times on
different days and times and again, there were no traffic engineering issues or problems observed
that resulted from parked vehicles. As with the previous monitoring, the largest number of vehicles
were generally parked on the west side of Paseo Descanso near Carrillo Way. The most current
monitoring revealed that the total number of vehicles parked on the west side of Paseo Descanso
from Carrillo Way to across from the residence at 6314 Paseo Descanso ranged from one to seven.
During the 21 observations, vehicles were observed parking on the west side of Paseo Descanso 21
times and on the east side of Paseo Descanso 14 times.
The issue of C.C. & R.'s and whether vehicles should be parked on a private street in the Rancho
Carrillo area is something that the HOA needs to address. The City of Carlsbad does not enforce the
C.C. & R.'s for homeowners' associations at any location in the City. If the residents or visitors of
the condominiums choose not to park in the condominium complex and park on a public street, the
City does not get involved since the residents have a right to legally park on a public street as long as
they do so in a legal manner and the vehicle is street legal.
Mr. Johnson addressed in more detail some of the concerns of Mr. Fennel's petition. Regarding the
difficulty turning from eastbound Carrillo Way to southbound Paseo Descanso due to parked
vehicles, Paseo Descanso is a 40-foot wide street that can accommodate vehicles turning from the
cross street to the residential street. Regarding parking in the intersection at Carrillo Way and Paseo
Descanso, staff did not observe vehicles parked in the intersection, which would be a violation if it
took place. With respect to vandalism, there were one or two photos submitted by Mr. Fennel
showing vandalism to a vehicle. In Carlsbad, vehicles are allowed to park on the street with a For
Sale sign provided that the vehicle is legally parked and the sign is legally affixed to the vehicle and
in compliance with City codes. Staff did not find parked vehicles near access to City trails to be a
violation. There were some police issues regarding trash, partying, and noise indicated in the petition
that Lt. Rawson, Carlsbad Police Department, will address.
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Lt. Rawson informed the Commission that the Police Department did a search for calls for service
for this area from January 1,2008 through May 14,2009. During these 16-1/2 months, the search
generated 17 total calls, about one call per month. However, those calls included a couple of 911
hang-ups and some medical assist calls for the fire department. Of the 17 total calls, only 6 were
related to parking. Of the issue of trash/partying/noise, there was one noise complaint where a car
alarm went off. There were a couple of suspicious people. One was a guy hi a car, but by the time
the police got there, he was gone. Another one was a woman wanting to kick her child out of the
house. LL Rawson mentioned from his perspective six calls are too many, but compared to other
areas of the City, it is not considered excessive.
Mr. Johnson stated that the last issue, which is oil dripping from parked vehicles, would be
addressed by Elaine Lukey, Storm Water Manager.
Ms. Lukey indicated that the City has pollution requirements to prevent pollution getting into the
creeks and ocean. One of those requirements is that the City manages a public hotiine that has to
respond to complaints of illegal discharges. In any given year, they field more than 500 calls and
over the last three years, between 100-250 of those calls have been related to actual illegal
discharges. Some of the calls they receive are referred to other City departments. Those calls also
include vehicles parked on the street that are leaking automotive fluids of some land, hi the last few
years, approximately 10% have been related to leaking vehicles. They routinely respond to the
complaints and investigate each of the complaints they receive. Secondly, their standard procedure is
for City staff to investigate on-site for evidence related a specific vehicle that may be leaking. They
often work the Police Department to find information related to the registered owner of the vehicle.
Often times the vehicle owner may or may not be residing nearby and may or may not be a property
owner nearby.
Ms. Lukey explained in the neighborhood being discussed today, there is a record of two
investigations in the last one year. In February 2009, they did not receive a specific call or
complaint, but they did receive the informative photos submitted by Mr. Fennel. Therefore, they
instigated their own complaint investigation. They had some staff on site at two different times,
similar to what Mr. Johnson mentioned, different days of the week at different times of the day, and
did not find any leaking vehicles, so they closed the complaint. The second complaint was in May
2008 in which they found four vehicles that were suspected to be leaking on the street. That
investigation was closed in July 2008 after all four vehicles had been removed or had been repaired.
Prior to closing the investigation, they did an educational mailer to 151 residents hi that
neighborhood, including the multifamily residents. The educational information included
information on storm water and pollution prevention that the Carlsbad Municipal Code allows and
disallows, hi summary, the storm water staff is very responsive to all complaints that they receive
through the storm water hotline, as well as through e-mail or informational photos they receive, and
they will continue to respond to those in the future. She suggested the public provide specific vehicle
information in order to make the program most successful when they follow-up and look for
evidence.
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Concluding, Mr. Johnson indicated that the Traffic Safety Coordinating Committee, a staff
committee, recommends (1) the request for a parking restriction at night on Paseo Descanso from
Carrillo Way to Paseo Cerro be denied; (2) 30 feet of curb be painted red on the west side of Paseo
Descanso beginning at the curb return; (3) at the location of the fire hydrant at 6302 Paseo Descanso
the curb be painted red; and (4) 50 feet of double yellow centerline striping be installed on Paseo
Descanso approaching Carrillo Way.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Roney asked if Via Puerta is a private street.
Mr. Johnson stated that Via Puerta was a private street serving the condominiums. Paseo Privado is
also a private street. In this area, the public streets are Melrose Drive, a portion of Carrillo Way, and
Paseo Descanso, Paseo Cerro, and Rancho Montana.
Commissioner Roney asked if the HOA's are all the same.
Chair Cress answered that he believed there was a separate HO A for Cascada, Montevina, and the
Master HOA Rancho Carrillo.
Commissioner Roney stated the problem appears to be over-crowding. When the condominiums
were approved, did they meet parking standards?
Mr. Johnson stated the request was initiated because vehicles that would otherwise park in the
condominium complex were parking along the west side of Paseo Descanso.
Commissioner Roney asked if the condominium met parking standards within the complex.
Mr. Johnson explained anytime a multi-family project is submitted for City approval they have to
meet the parking standards. This condominium complex met those standards. Issues do arise after
particular multi-family apartments or condominiums are built. There may be more people in the unit
than was anticipated and therefore more cars. Residents may have parties, people come to visit and
there is not sufficient parking for them, so they would spill over and park on the public street. There
is no way for the Planning Department or Engineering Department to anticipate on any one day what
the need would be. So long as the project meets the parking standard, then the project is moved
forward for approval.
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Commissioner Roney mentioned that it appeared the condominium had painted their own curbs red.
Mr. Johnson stated that would then be a code enforcement violation that staff would have to look
into if available parking were removed.
Vice-Chair Cumming asked if staff confirmed that occupancy in the condominiums is in accordance
to City standards.
Mr. Johnson replied that was not something the City has done and it is not in their jurisdiction to
check occupancies of dwelling units.
Vice-Chair Cumming asked if the occupancy was exceeding what was originally anticipated, is there
an enforcement mechanism or compliance issue involved?
Mr. Johnson answered there was not an efficient mechanism. The City Attorney has previously
advised that it is not something staff can get involved in. If someone wants to move in and bring
their elderly parents or grandparents or others that is entirely up to them and management of units
how they handle that.
Vice-Chair Cumming indicated that he noticed that the streets within the Cascada Development after
the curve narrows considerably. When a developer builds internal streets, do they conform to City
width standards or is the developer free to just conform to driveways? How does that work?
Mr. Johnson indicated that when there are multi-family condominiums or apartments, the PUD has a
different set of standards but are basically designed and constructed to public street standards. There
is some latitude in how they are built. The proposal has to be reviewed by the Planning and
Engineering Departments before the project can be moved forward to the Planning Commission and
ultimately to City Council for approval.
Vice-Chair Cumming observed that the condominiums painted one side of the street for No Parking
and therefore leaves very little room for parking spaces. There are so many curb cuts that are limited.
Is the off-street parking fully utilized and it is all spill-over parking on the public streets?
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Mr. Johnson explained that the off-street parking in the condominium would be for the guests or
visitors. The red curb may have been a requirement of the entire complex. Staff did not investigate
the Cascada parking situation. They looked at the vehicles being parked on Paseo Descanso.
Chair Cress noticed there was a pick-up truck that was parked on Paseo Descanso that was
protruding into the intersection almost even with Carrillo Way. He could understand if there were 6
or 7 vehicles along the west side of Paseo Descanso. It also appears to him that the Cascada Condos
have painted No Parking areas, which is great for them. It makes the area look nice. It stops a lot of
parking. It appears they are the cause of the people parking Paseo Descanso. That appears to him to
be the problem. He wants to hear from the public speakers whether Rancho Carrillo HOA has any
authority over the other HOA's and putting pressure on them to change their striping on the curbs.
Does the Rancho Carrillo HOA have jurisdiction over the other homeowner associations? He
understood all three are a part of the Rancho Carrillo Master Association.
Mr. Johnson replied that his understanding is the Master Association, which is the overall umbrella
of all of the individual HOA's, would have governance over each one of the HOA's, and each
individual HOA has their own rules and C.C. & R.'s.
Chair Cress asked for clarification if the Rancho Carrillo HOA were to review the Cascada parking
situation, could they could take action to tell them to eliminate some of the red curbing in that area?
Mr. Johnson said if the red curbing was done illegally or was not in compliance with the approved
plans, then they could take action.
Vice-Chair Gumming asked if fire access was adequate since the streets were very narrow.
Mr. Johnson indicated the Fire Department would be very concerned about removing red curbs if it
was a fire lane requirement When a project gets approved, in the conditions of approval, the Fire
Department has their conditions for where there has to be red curbs and fire lane signs installed.
Public Testimony;
Chair Cress called for Public Testimony.
Brian Fennel, 6302 Paseo Descanso, thanked the City for the thoroughness they took in investigating
all of the issues. Using a Power Point presentation, he indicated the affected streets where parking is
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an issue in their neighborhood. He showed the area by the trails and said the trail of their concern is
not on Paseo Descanso. On Carrillo Way, parking was banned after they moved in and that
eliminated one of the avenues where the condominiums could have parked on. They are concerned
about rainfall run-off, too. He showed pictures where 12 cars were parked on the street and none of
them were residents in then* neighborhood. He showed the condominium area where there were red
curbs painted and where vehicles could park. However, they do not use the available spaces within
the grounds; rather they park on the public street and use it as a junk yard for their cars. The cars
park into the intersection. When UPS comes, they go well into the middle of the road to get around
that corner. They come across the street and park in front of their houses even when they have ample
parking in their own neighborhood. They are single units and the cars are exceeding the garage
capacity. Thirty percent of the curb spaces are for guests. The tenants are being told directly to park
on of their street.
Mr. Fennel felt it is a quality of life issue; it's a safety issue on the road. From a technicality
standpoint, other neighborhoods in similar situations discourage the same kind of push back from the
City side of things. 41 homeowners signed the petition even though only 22 live on the street. This is
a concern that this is a problem created by a condominium development They are taking advantage
of the City and the law. They aren't asking to eliminate public parking during normal waking hours
of 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. By having no overnight parking, they feel they are going to redirect the
behavior of condominiums to address their own problems and keep the residents in areas where they
residing. They are asking for a favorable ruling on posting No Overnight Parking signs on Paseo
Descanso.
Larry White, 6326 Paseo Descanso, thanked everyone for doing such a great job on defining the
issue. He felt he was in a little bit of opposition to most of the people here because he feels that
banning overnight parking would restrict the rights of citizens that live on the street. Quite a few of
them had called in and stated their case. He has spoken to others that did sign the petition, but they
thought it was only for one side of the street. Some thought it was only for the first 75 or 80 feet
going up the street. They could come up with an alternative. Mr. Fennel was just showing Paseo
Descanso. Why couldn't Carrillo Way be opened up for parking, thereby allowing those people to
park over there? Carrillo Way is actually wider than their street. It is wider than 40 feet He believes
that if the vast majority of people up and down the street really understood that this means they
cannot have an overnight event like Christmas or Thanksgiving and have their 3 or 4 extra bedrooms
that they paid for filled up with their friends and families because they can't park on the street that
they would be very put out by that. Their homeowners association is in the middle of trying to
restrict people from parking in their driveways. So it would be even more of a problem for those of
them who would like to be able to enjoy their homes and their street.
Seeing no others wishing to testify, Chair Cress closed Public Testimony.
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DISCUSSION:
Chair Cress asked Mr. Johnson to address the problem of having no parking on Carrillo Way. Is
there any reason why there is no parking on the whole distance of Carrillo Way?
Mr. Johnson explained that the portion of Carrillo Way is a short collector road segment from
Melrose Drive to Paseo Descanso. At the intersection there are two lanes, a left turn lane and a
through right lane. There is also a painted median on the roadway and then one eastbound lane from
Melrose Drive. There are approximately 1,300 vehicles per day using that road and it would become
a sight visibility issue on Paseo Descanso, a lower volume, low speed residential road. The same
issues would result on Carrillo Way with the larger volume of vehicles and parked vehicle doors
being opened. It would not be a recommended action.
Commissioner Roney asked if there was a code violation for parking. Is there some way to research
the issue for the Cascada condominiums?
Mr. Johnson replied that the code enforcement would be looking into any code violations if there
were a complaint made to the City of Carlsbad Code Enforcement Office. They would go out to
investigate the number of off-street parking. They would compare that to what's required and then
they would have the appropriate discussions with management of the condominiums if it was not in
line with what was approved.
Vice-Chair Gumming complimented both the neighborhood participants and staff for their very
professional presentations. The precedent of Celinda Drive comes into play where there was a direct
appeal to the City Council. Sometimes the City Council chooses to act as both its own Traffic Safety
Coordinating Committee and its own Traffic Safety Commission. He felt the core issue was an
equity issue between people who have the fortune or misfortune to live on a public street versus their
adjacent neighbors who have private streets that are subject to a slightly different set of rules. That
makes it complex and he therefore felt it should be expedited to the City Council.
Vice-Chair Gumming said his understanding is that if the Commission adopted the recommendation
today, there is no City Council action required. For that reason, if for no other, he would like to make
a motion that they adopt the same language as the recommendation, except instead of the words "be
denied" it say "be approved." By saying "be approved" that takes the issue to the City Council. The
details of what might meet the needs of this neighborhood should be explored. He felt this issue
deserved to be reviewed by the elected officials. Therefore, he recommends a resolution that the
Commission adopt the recommendation as written with the exception that it say "be approved"
rather than denied.
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Commissioner Roney asked for clarification of Vice-Chair Cumming's comments.
Vice-Chair Gumming reiterated that public streets should be public and open to the public. Anyone
who is going to make use of a public street for parking should be allowed to park and there should
not be discrimination against the residents of the Cascada condominiums merely because they
happen to live in a multi-family dwelling. On the other hand, we do have the precedent of Celinda
Drive. As he understands it, if the Commission adopts the recommendation, which is that the request
for the restriction be denied, then no City Council action is required. It is his desire that this should
go before the City Council so that they have a chance to decide one way or the other. Therefore, he
is suggesting that in addition to the three lower bullet points they modify the first bullet point to
recommend that the request for a parking restriction at night on Paseo Descanso from Carrillo Way
to Paseo Cerro be approved. That would take it to the City Council.
Mr. Johnson stated any recommendation of the Commission can be appealed to the City Council.
Regardless of how the Commission decides today, it can be appealed to City Council. Any time the
Commission takes action on any item, if the public that initiated that item doesn't like the
recommendation, they can appeal to City Council.
Chair Cress stated he was going to make the same point, that if we take action on the conclusions
and recommendations of the TSCC, that Mr. Fennel has the option of taking it further to the City
Council and presenting their case.
Vice-Chair Gumming asked for clarification. It was his understanding that in the Celinda Drive
situation there is a procedure where one can go directly to the City Council and bypass both staff and
Commission, and that was followed for Celinda Drive. Did he understand that correctly?
Mr. Johnson replied that City Council has a policy whereby any citizen can write a letter to the City
Manager and request to be on an agenda of the City Council. The City Council at that time has
several choices, one of which is to direct the matter back to staff for investigation, or they can ask
that the matter come back to the City Council for action, or they can simply say thank you for the
information and do nothing with it. So yes, there is a procedure to go directly to the City Council.
For most of the items that the Commission hears, staff receives a letter. Staff investigates it and as
appropriate, it comes before the Traffic Safety Commission for recommendation. Depending on
what the recommendation is, again that recommendation can be appealed to City Council. Quite
often once the Commission makes a recommendation that is as far as it goes.
Chair Cress expressed that one of the things that bothered him was the letter from the Rancho
Carrillo HO A. It summarized that "we are all hopeful that restricting overnight parking on Paseo
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Descanso will force these last cars to get an assigned parking space within Cascada." It looks like
they are asking the City to do their work. They want the City to put up No Parking signs and then
force the Cascada HOA to relook into their restricted parking. He thinks they are abdicating their
responsibilities in trying to put it off on the City and have the City put on some limited parking in.
His own personal opinion is parking is at premium in the City of Carlsbad to begin with, and he'd
hate to see it restricted any more than is absolutely necessary. He felt the residents who came to
today's meeting needed to go back to the Rancho Carrillo HOA and get them to rescind the parking
restrictions that are in Cascada now and get them to open up the parking places, eliminate some of
those guest parking spots, and make them for homeowners.
Commissioner Roney said regarding code violation, who would actually instigate that? Would
someone have to contact Mr. Johnson or the Police Department?
Mr. Johnson clarified that he was the City Engineer and worked in the Engineering Department. A
resident would contact the City's Code Enforcement Department.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Vice-Chair Cumming that the request for a parking
restriction at night on Paseo Descanso from Carrillo Way to Paseo
Cerro be approved and the remaining bullet items remain the same.
There was no second, so the motion died for the lack of a second.
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Roney, and duly seconded by
Commissioner Valderrama, that the request for a parking restriction
at night on Paseo Descanso from Carrillo Way to Paseo Cerro be
denied; 30 feet of curb be painted red on the west side of Paseo
Descanso beginning at the curb return; at the location of the fire
hydrant at 6302 Paseo Descanso the curb be painted red; and 50 feet
of double yellow centerline striping be installed on Paseo Descanso
approaching Carrillo Way.
From the audience, Janelle Fennel, 6302 Paseo Descanso, interrupted before the vote was taken and
wanted to add her thoughts before the Commission continued. Chair Cress asked her to go to the
microphone. She stated that in February 2007 a person in the condo took a board position and one of
the things she wanted was to restrict parking within the condos. She wanted the residents to use their
garages more, but they can't go door to door and ask the residents to open their garages and put their
cars in. She felt it was starting to look like an apartment complex hi there. They hired a service to
start patrolling their area at night and restrict it after they painted the red curbs. The people who used
to park in there could no longer park there. So they started parking on Carrillo Way. People from
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Miravena and Montavena started complaining. That is when the City came out and in one day's time
put up No Parking signs with no notice and literally ticketed cars that same day. Then they started
parking on Paseo Privado which is the private street into Montavena. At the time, however, nobody
knew it was private. That was the thing that went through the City, through the homeowners - it was
a long ordeal to finally get up those signs that said No Parking there. That threw everybody onto
Paseo Descanso. These cars from the condos keep moving from the condos. When they bought their
homes, these people parked in the complex. Then it went from the condos to Carrillo Way, Carrillo
Way to Paseo Privado, and now Paseo Privado to Paseo Descanso. They are fine with residents with
guests/visitors, parties at the condos on a public street. That's fine. What they are trying to avoid is
people who live there that don't park within their development. That's why she thinks Bob Woelffer
wrote that comment at the end of his letter. After all of the attempts that they've made, going back
and forth, they just want them to park where they should if they live there.
Vice-Chair Gumming asked Lt. Rawson if he'd like to comment on the enforcement there.
Lt. Rawson stated he had no knowledge of that enforcement.
Chair Cress returned to the Motion on the floor and called for a vote:
MOTION:
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Roney, and duly seconded by
Commissioner Valderrama, that the request for a parking restriction
at night on Paseo Descanso from Carrillo Way to Paseo Cerro be
denied; 30 feet of curb be painted red on the west side of Paseo
Descanso beginning at the curb return; at the location of the fire
hydrant at 6302 Paseo Descanso the curb be painted red; and 50 feet
of double yellow centerline striping be installed on Paseo Descanso
approaching Carrillo Way.
VOTE: 3-0-1
AYES: Cress, Roney, Valderrama
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Gumming
ITEM 7: REPORT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONERS
None.
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ITEM 8: REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEER
Mr. Johnson informed the Commission that the next regularly scheduled Traffic Safety Commission
meeting would be held on July 6,2009 at 3:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers.
Chair Cress asked Mr. Fennel if he had any questions.
Mr. Fennel asked about their next course of action. It sounds like they can still take this to City
Council. What avenue do they go through to do that?
Mr. Johnson replied that any appeal of the Traffic Safety Commission is filed at the City Clerk's
office. Then it will be scheduled for a future City Council meeting.
Chair Cress told him to contact Lorraine Wood, City Clerk, across the way and talk to her or one of
her staff to appeal the decision of the Traffic Safety Commission to the City Council.
Mr. Fennel wanted to know where the Code Enforcement Office was.
Mr. Johnson stated the Code Enforcement Office was at 1635 Faraday Avenue in Carlsbad.
Mr. Fennel asked if he should contact Code Enforcement by letter or show up in person and ask for
somebody.
Mr. Johnson stated either way was fine. They could make a phone call or drop hi and talk to
someone. Mike Peterson would be good to start with as a contact.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, Chair Cress adjourned the Regular Meeting of June 1,2009 at 4:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Woodbeck
Minutes Clerk