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Minutes
January 11, 2023
CALL TO ORDER: 5 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Primary – Jeff Segall, Eric Larson, Stephen L’Heureux, Mike Howes, Mary Ryan, Frank Caraglio, Frances
Schnall, Harry Peacock, Annika Jimenez, Gita Nassiri, John Nguyen-Cleary, William Sheffler, Amy Allemann,
Joe Stine, Steve Linke
Alternate – Ron Withall, Patrick Goyarts, Jan Neff-Sinclair, Don Christiansen, Terence Green, Allen
Manzano, Art Larson, William Fowler
Absent:
Primary – Scott White, Fred Briggs, Chad Majer
Alternate – Casey Carstairs, Theirry Ibri, Matthew Reese, Erin Nell, Angela O’Hara, Nora Jimenez George,
Jamie Latiano Jacobs, Marissa Steketee, Kevin Sabellico
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion by Joe Stein, seconded by Stephen L’Heureux, to approve the Dec. 15, 2022 minutes. Mike Howes
and John Nguyen-Cleary abstained.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Five public comments were received.
1. Open Space and Parks–
Chris Ross stated support for the staff’s recommendation of 15% open space for each Local Facility
Management Zone, however, given the diversity and size of Carlsbad he believes the zone
exemptions should be removed and a transition plan developed so open space in the city can be
shared equitably. Ross requested that a coastal access park, specifically in the Ponto area, be added
as a requirement in the Growth Management Program.
2. Parking –
Gary Nessim expressed his concern regarding parking spaces for new housing given the state’s
mandates that parking can’t be required for commercial or residential projects. Nessim would like
to see a parking fee implemented based on square footage to provide municipal parking.
3. Open Space and Parks –
Diane Nygaard stated there is a need for more open space and parks so that people can recreate in
spaces designed for recreation rather than trampling native plants and animal habitats. Nygaard
further states that Climate Change is a factor in needing to preserve more open space than was
designated in the 1986 Growth Management Plan.
4. Parks and Energy-
Paige DeCino would like to see the Parks standard metric increased to align with surrounding
communities. DeCino further stated schools should not be included when counting park acreage
since they are fenced and not accessible after school hours.
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As a representative of the Clean Energy Alliance, DeCino expressed support for a local power
distribution and storage project at Maerkle Reservoir.
5. Parks –
John Bottorff expressed concerns over synthetic turf and asks that it not be used in city parks.
Bottorff explained the that chemicals in the synthetic turf rinse into waterways during storm events
and are harmful to people and the environment.
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS:
The meeting opened with a welcome to attendees from Committee Chair Eric Larson. City Planner Eric
Lardy then briefly reviewed the committee’s purpose and charter, with emphasis on the mission, the 11
existing performance standards, how the Growth Management Plan is implemented, the committee
process, and the next steps in the Growth Management Program update process. Mr. Lardy briefly went
over the role of the General Plan and the Housing Element and reminded the committee that SANDAG
statistics related to projected population growth and demographics were redistributed in their committee
packet. Facilitator Susan Harden reviewed the meeting agenda.
COMMITTEE BUSINESS:
• Open Space Standard. City of Carlsbad Planner Eric Lardy provided a recap of the Open Space
Standard, including previous conversations held by the committee. Mr. Lardy reviewed the staff
recommendation that the Open Space Standard remain as it is in the Growth Management Program.
Because of the challenges in securing vacant available land for more open space than is currently
planned, options for a different open space standard are limited and involve additional cost to the
city. The committee discussed the following:
o Set standard as a “goal”, not a means to shut down development.
o Question on the impact of undoing exempted zones.
o Question on if the language for the standard could include a goal for exempt zones and a
15% requirement for others.
o Fair share contributions should be mandatory for developers for all zones. The city could
monitor/implement.
o Concern expressed regarding fee impacts on housing affordability.
o Zone by zone analysis needed.
o Concern regarding removing all exemptions.
o A 40% citywide standard was recommended.
o There was a comment to add “or built out land” in the standard language.
o Looking to future changes in land use, exclusion assumptions can’t be guaranteed. (Making
them arbitrary.)
o City Council ultimately determines fee(s) based on ranges from various adopted plans.
o Question on the impact if 25 years from now the land uses are changed.
o Will a fee result in less developer dedicated land? i.e developer would rather pay fee than
dedicate land for open space.
o Request for staff to provide what the 15% is being measured against.
Action: By consensus, have staff to come back with alternative recommendations
based on public concerns and committee discussion. Staff also to conduct additional
research into zones currently exempt from the open space standard to better
understand why and what the current status of open space is in those areas.
• Parks Standard. City of Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Director, Kyle Lancaster, provided a recap on
the existing current Park Standard. Nancy Bragado of Bragado Planning recapped how the City of
Carlsbad’s Park Standard compares to other cities in the San Diego region. The staff
recommendation that the Parks Standard remain as it is in the Growth Management Program was
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discussed, as well as alternate recommendations if the committee wanted to pursue increasing the
standard. The committee discussed the following:
o Interest expressed in having the Veterans Park designation reallocated to the quadrant it’s
actually in and then assessing the park space in each quadrant.
o Private parks should count only if open to public use.
o Interest expressed in a 10-minute walk goal with a 3-4 acre per 1,000 standard.
o Suggestion to increase standard to 4 acres, by quadrant, and citywide.
o Concern expressed regarding citywide no longer incentivizes neighborhood parks.
o Explore standard that is not population/acre based (e.g. San Diego)
o Recommendation to increase standard to 4 acres, per 1,000, per quadrant (4) and open up
park definition to account for other resources.
o Comment that amenities and accessibility influence use of parks. A “layered” standard was
suggested with the goal being a 10-minute walk.
Citywide standard – all city facilities if free to use.
Local access standard – 10-minute walk (to address disparities)
o It was noted that the dedication of land is more valuable than an in-lieu fee.
o There was a suggestion to change the definition of a park without an increase in acreage.
o Include schools in park acreage only if there is a joint use agreement in place.
o The impact regarding the provision for construction within 5 years was discussed.
Motion by John Nguyen-Cleary to increase the park standard to a citywide 4 acres
per 1,000 population and to include additional recreational resources that have no
fee basis for participation, and have staff bring back an accessibility standard based
on distance to any park. (Motion was not seconded)
Chair Larson indicated he would rather achieve consensus before voting on a
motion.)
Committee was then polled by a show of hands for consensus on keeping the
current 3-acre standard. 10 primary members indicated “yes”.
Committee was polled for consensus on raising the standard to 4 acres. 6 primary
members indicated “yes”.
Following the conversation, the committee requested staff return with options
based on the committee discussion, including the issue regarding local accessibility.
• At this juncture in the meeting, due to the lateness of the hour, Chair Larson moves to the Senior
Commission Committee Member item on the agenda.
• Senior Commission Committee Member. Chair Eric Larson asks for consensus on replacing the open
member and alternate positions from the Senior Commission.
Action: By consensus, the committee moves to not ask the City Council to fill the
open positions this late in the Growth Management Program Update process.
• At this point in the meeting, City of Carlsbad Planner Eric Lardy recommended moving ahead with
the Water Quality/Stormwater item on the agenda and deferring the Climate Action Plan and Energy
topics to the Jan. 26 meeting.
• Water Quality/Stormwater. Environmental Sustainability Director James Wood provided a
presentation on Watershed Protection. The committee discussed the following:
o Question on if stormwater capture for reuse is required under the city’s NPDES permit.
o Question regarding if stormwater treatment is taking place before the stormwater enters
the ocean.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
• Committee meeting schedule and topics. Eric Larson informs the committee that the next meeting
will occur on Jan. 26, 2023. Comment received that additional meetings should be put on the calendar
for the committee members to plan accordingly.
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COMMITTEE MEMBER REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
• No future agenda items were brought forth by the committee.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
ADJOURNMENT:
Chair Eric Larson adjourned the duly noticed meeting at 8:28 p.m.
Eric Lardy – Minutes Clerk