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Minutes
January 26, 2023
CALL TO ORDER: 5 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Primary – Jeff Segall, Scott White, Eric Larson, Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, Mike Howes, Mary Ryan, Frank
Caraglio, Frances Schnall, Harry Peacock, Annika Jimenez, Gita Nassiri, Fred Briggs, Chad Majer, John
Nguyen-Cleary, William Sheffler, Amy Allemann, Joe Stine, Steve Linke
Alternate – Ron Withall, Jan Neff-Sinclair, Don Christiansen, Jamie Jacobs, Allen Manzano, William Fowler,
Angela O’Hara, Nora Jimenez George, Lisa Stark
Absent:
Primary –
Alternate – Patrick Goyarts, Casey Carstairs, Terence Green, Thierry Ibri, Matthew Reese, Erin Nell, Art
Larson, Marissa Steketee, Kevin Sabellico
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Eric Larson noted that the minutes from the Jan. 11 meeting would be approved at the Feb. 23 meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
6 individual public comments, and one group comment, were received.
1. Climate Action/Local Electric –
Mary Oren stated her support for installing more solar panels at public facilities, electric power
generation and storage in the city.
2. Ponto –
Hope Nelson recommended land at Ponto be acquired for a park and open space.
3. Local power generation– Group presentation
Robert Gilleskie spoke on behalf of Cathy Asker and Mercedes Marlin to ask that the city utilize
micro grids as they are renewable energy (solar), less expensive and more secure than public
utilities.
4. Local Power
Evan Bierman discussed his company’s mission to repurpose electric vehicle batteries as storage
and how this supports not only the city’s Climate Action Plan but also creates local jobs and supports
local facilities to export the technology nationwide.
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5. Parks -
Lance Schulte expressed concerns with the fiscal impacts of not having a park at Ponto. Schulte
recommended the committee increase the park standard, require a park at Ponto and asks for a 10-
minute walking distance metric to be used.
6. Energy -
Paige DeCino would like the city’s power generation to be local and expressed support for a Maerkle
Reservoir solar power facility.
7. Climate Action Plan and Parks -
Diane Nygaard suggested the committee recommend the city update the Climate Action Plan as
soon as possible, to make it as strong as possible, and to encourage every level of government to
do the same.
Nygaard expressed support for the 3-acre park standard but recommended the committee add an
additional half acre per thousand residents citywide for accessible parks with the goal that every
neighborhood including Ponto has access to a park within a half mile or 10-minute walk.
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS:
The meeting opened with a welcome to attendees from Committee Chair Eric Larson. Facilitator Susan
Harden briefly reviewed the process and decisions made by the committee up to this meeting and
highlighted an updated work plan provided to the committee that outlines the remainder of the
committee’s work needed through April 2023. Susan reviewed the committee’s charter, next steps and
the agenda. Chair Eric Larson reminded the committee that they are supposed to work towards reaching
consensus. Absence consensus, the chair will entertain motions and take votes.
COMMITTEE BUSINESS
• Circulation Standard. Facilitator Susan Harden recapped the committee’s previous discussion
regarding the Circulation Standard. Susan reviewed the new recommendations brought back by staff
after the Dec. 15, 2023 meeting and committee discussion. City of Carlsbad Transportation Planning
and Mobility Manager Nathan Schmidt and City of Carlsbad Transportation Director Tom Frank
answered questions on the recommendations. The committee discussed the following:
o Motion by Steve Linke to maintain the current circulation standard as is with Level of Service
D. Harry Peacock seconded the motion.
Suggested language “Maintain the current standard Level of Service D and staff shall
work to establish an equivalent standard for the other modes of transportation that
aren’t currently covered.”
Concern expressed regarding the language in the current standard regarding exempt
intersections and streets.
Concern expressed that the current standard only accounts for vehicular mobility.
o Action: After discussion on the motion, the motion passed by a vote of 12 in favor and 6
opposed.
Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
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Members Vote
YES NO
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Annika Jimenez, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission X
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission X
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
It was noted that other thoughts and concerns noted by other committee members
would be included in the report when consensus is not achieved, and the committee
would be able to advise if they do not feel their opinion was correctly captured.
o Motion by Annika Jimenez to include staff recommendations Options A and B in the quality-
of-life report. Harry Peacock seconds the motion.
Concern expressed that there is no threshold for project size stated in Option B to
trigger the Level of Service and Multimodal Level-of-Service analysis.
Clarification provided that the Local Mobility Analysis has a threshold.
o Action: By consensus, the committee agreed to include language from Options A and B
regarding Multimodal Level of Service in the quality-of-life report.
• Fire and Police Standard. Facilitator Susan Harden recapped the committee’s previous discussion
regarding the Fire Standard and reviewed the revisited recommendation from City of Carlsbad Fire
Chief Michael Calderwood, noting that City of Carlsbad Police Chief Mickey Williams is not
recommending creating a Police performance standard. The committee discussed the following:
o The revised Fire standard option is not a true performance standard, but rather best practices.
o The Fire Department has its own performance metrics and the metrics do not apply to future
development.
Action: By consensus, the committee moved to remove the Fire Standard from the
Growth Management Program.
Action: By consensus, the committee agreed to recommend in the quality-of-life
memo that City Council set aside funding for a future fire station and exempt the
project from Proposition H -- a city law that requires projects costing more than $1
million to be approved by voters.
o Discussion regarding adding a performance standard with a fee to the Growth Management
Program for Police.
Action: By consensus, the committee moved to not add a Police Standard to the
Growth Management Program.
• Arts and Culture. City of Carlsbad Library & Cultural Arts Director Suzanne Smithson recapped the
last committee discussion regarding arts and culture and how best to support them in the Growth
Management Program. Suzanne discusses current funding and policies for arts and culture, and
presents the staff recommendation that an arts and culture standard not be included in the Growth
Management Program. The committee discussed the following:
o Comment by one committee member who disagreed with leaving arts and culture out of the
Growth Management Program.
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o Request to delay a decision on arts and culture in the Growth Management Program until the Arts
and Culture Commission can review the recommendation, which they did not have the
opportunity to do prior to it being presented at the Growth Management Program committee.
Suggestion to include arts and culture as a fee-based performance standard does not
achieve consensus.
o Comment that the committee should accept and respect the recommendation of the Library &
Cultural Arts staff providing the recommendation as they are experts in their field.
o Suggestion that arts and culture be included in the quality-of-life report.
o Suggestion that staff bring back the suggested language to the Arts Commission for review for
inclusion in the quality-of-life report.
o Comment that it doesn’t feel right to add a developer fee for arts and culture when there hasn’t
been one before.
o Comment that the community should fund arts and culture programs and not developers.
Action: Motion from Gita Nassiri, seconded by Steve Linke, to table the arts and
culture topic to a future meeting. Motion failed by a vote of 4 in favor and 14 opposed.
Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Annika Jimenez, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission X
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission X
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
o Comment that the Imagine the Possibilities document includes text regarding developer fees for
new development.
Action: Motion by Gita Nassiri, seconded by Fred Briggs, to include an arts and culture
performance standard in the Growth Management Program, with a fee ranging
between $100 for single family and $1,000 for commercial and multi-family
developments. Motion failed by a vote of 2 in favor and 16 opposed.
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Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Annika Jimenez, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission X
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission X
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
Action: By consensus, the committee agreed to include arts and culture in the quality-
of-life memo.
• Parks Standard. City of Carlsbad Parks & Recreation Director, Kyle Lancaster, provided a recap
on the previous discussion regarding the existing Park Standard. Lancaster reviewed the results
of the Parks & Recreation Master Plan Survey of City of Carlsbad residents. Facilitator Susan
Harden discusses the newest recommendations brought to the committee based on previous
committee meetings and discussions. The committee discussed the following:
o Discussion regarding how the 10-minute/half-mile walk became part of the metric being
considered and if this metric is used in other cities.
o Discussion on how parks are currently funded and how increasing the acreage in the
performance standard metric would affect current funding.
o Comment that a distance measure metric could help solve the pockets of the city that have a
perceived unmet need as measuring by quadrant seems to have created an issue.
o Comment that perhaps a recommendation can be made int the quality-of-life report that a
portion of the Transient Occupancy Tax could go towards public facilities at beaches.
o Comment on the survey results discussed in the presentation indicating 20-30 percent of
residents feeling their park needs are unmet is a high number.
o Discussion on setting an acreage metric in the performance standard given city staff has
indicated they’re unable to acquire land for parks and open space at market value.
Motion by Jeff Segall, seconded by Joe Stine, to keep the existing Park Standard of
three acres per 1,000 residents and consider the accessibility item separately.
Motion to amend by Harry Peacock to include the language “Retain existing standard
of three acres per 1,000 residents, calculated by each of the city’s existing quadrants,
located within each quadrant of the city and within one half-mile of each
neighborhood either existing or planned”. Motion to amend died without a second.
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Motion to amend by Steve Linke, seconded by Harry Peacock, to retain the three acres
per 1,000 residents, but exclude property inaccessible to humans, and counting the
parks in the quadrant they’re located in. (Veteran’s Park would be only counted in the
quadrant in which it is located.) Motion to amend failed by a vote of 4 in favor, 2
abstentions, and 12 opposed. Alternate Angela O’Hara voting in Member Annika
Jimenez’ absence.
Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission Abstain
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission Abstain
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
Alternate Vote
YES NO
Angela O’Hara, District 4 X
Action: Original motion to retain existing park performance standard passed by a vote
of 15 in favor and 3 opposed. Alternate Angela O’Hara voting in Member Annika
Jimenez’ absence.
Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
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Members Vote
YES NO
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission X
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission X
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
Alternate Vote
YES NO
Angela O’Hara, District 4 X
Action: Motion by John Nguyen-Cleary, seconded by Amy Allemann, to adopt Option
A: “Request that the City Council direct staff to evaluate the feasibility of creating and
implementing a distance based standard to any public accessible park.”. Motion
passes by a vote of 13 in favor and 5 opposed. Alternate Angela O’Hara voting in
Member Annika Jimenez’ absence.
Members Vote
YES NO
Jeff Segall, At Large X
Scott White, At Large X
Eric Larson, District 1 X
Stephen “Hap” L’Heureux, District 1 X
Mike Howes, District 2 X
Mary Ryan, District 2 X
Frank Caraglio, District 3 X
Frances Schnall, District 3 X
Harry Peacock, District 4 X
Gita Nassiri, Arts Commission X
Fred Briggs, Beach Preservation Commission X
Chad Majer, Historic Preservation Commission X
John Nguyen-Cleary, Housing Commission X
William Sheffler, Library Board of Trustees X
Amy Allemann, Parks & Recreation Commission X
Joe Stine, Planning Commission X
Steve Linke, Traffic & Mobility Commission X
Alternate Vote
YES NO
Angela O’Hara, District 4 X
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• Action: By consensus the committee moves to adjourn the meeting with the two
remaining items on the agenda, Climate Action Plan and Local Electric Power Generation
and Renewable Energy and Environmental Sustainability/Climate Change, to be
presented first at the Feb. 23 meeting.
• Facilitator Susan Harden went through a work plan showing the previous schedule and
future path for concluding the committee’s work. She notes that committee meetings on
March 23 and a tentative date for April 20 have been added to the calendar and reviewed
projected topics for each meeting, including the Feb. 23 meeting.
COMMITTEE MEMBER REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
There was a request to develop a name for what has been called the quality-of-life memo or report at a
future meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
ADJOURNMENT:
Chair Eric Larson adjourned the duly noticed meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Eric Lardy - Minutes Clerk