Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-12-08; Historic Preservation Commission; MinutesMEETING OF: DATE OF MEETING: TIME OF MEETING: PLACE OF MEETING: CALL TO ORDER: MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION December 8, 1997 5:30 P.M. City Council Chambers I •tern #21 The regular meeting of December 8, 1997 was called to order by Chairman Bizieff at 5:37 PM. ROLL CALL: Present: Absent: Also Present Were: Commissioners Bizieff, Christiansen, Jones, and Trejo Commissioner Muth Geoff Armour Bailey Noble Ramona Finnila Mark Steyaert Wayne Donaldson Kurt Carlson APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regarding approval of the minutes of the meeting of September 8, 1997, a question was raised regarding the quorum needed for approval, since the makeup of the commission had changed since the meeting. It was determined that a quorum of two was sufficient for approval, since only three of the commissioners active at the time of that meeting remained on the Board. Approval of the minutes of September 8, 1997 followed. The minutes of the meeting held November 10, 1997 were unanimously approved as presented. PRESENTATION ON PLANS FOR CARRILLO RANCH: Chairman Bizieff introduced Mark Steyaert, Park Planner for the City of Carlsbad. Mr. Steyaert began with a slide presentation on Carrillo Ranch, then turned the presentation over to Wayne Donaldson, the presiding architect on the team. Mr. Donaldson gave the period history of the Kelly and Carrillo families. Mr. Steyaert then emphasized that the main goal is to make it look like Leo Carrillo was gone for the day and you are visiting the ranch. Kurt Carlson then presented the physical layout and the Masterplan. Chairman Bizieff communicated his enthusiasm for the project, and Geoff ( Historic Preservation Commission December 8, 1997 Page 2 Armour expressed his thanks to Mark Steyaert and Wayne Donaldson. Commissioner Jones added his thanks to the Kindles, who were also present as members of the public, for their years of planning. PLAQUE FOR HOSP GROVE PARK: Geoff Armour said that the plaque is in transit from Virginia. A decision needs to be made on where to mount it in the park. He, Mark Steyaert and Chairman Bizieff have all been to the park to investigate possible boulders to mount it on, and they have found a suitable one which needs to be relocated a short distance from where it now lies. Mr. Armour will make the final determination tomorrow with Chuck Walden, City Facilities Superintendent, and will then talk with Marilyn Strong to set up a small dedication ceremony with the Council. This should all be completed in the next month or so. RESTORATION OF HISTORIC SAFE AND STOVE: Mr. Armour explained that the stove was originally in the Santa Fe Depot and has been donated to the City by Roger Hutflesz. We are having it analyzed for renovation needs. City Facilities Superintendent Chuck Walden is arranging to have the work done, which is now estimated at about $750.00. As discussed at previous Commission meetings, the stove will probably be placed back in the Depot near its original location. The safe, which was donated by Fred Maerkle, was originally shipped around the horn to Carlsbad at the turn of the century to a location on State Street and used as the City bank until after the Depression. One of its distinguishing characteristics is that it was operated by a time lock. It has now been transported (with difficulty) to the City's Oak St. location. The issues which remain are to find a suitable place for this three-ton treasure-perhaps somewhere in Magee Park; and to complete the renovation, which will cost more than the stove restoration. In response to a question by Chairman Bizieff, Mr. Armour described the safe and estimated its date of creation at circa 1860. DISCUSSION OF COMMISSION GOALS FOR 1998: Mr. Armour mentioned that this item had been carried over from the last meeting and opened it up for discussion. 1. Install plaques and hold public ceremonies for Hosp Grove and For St. Michael's Episcopal Church -Already discussed. Bailey Noble added that construction at St. Michael's would not be completed for another two to three months, and that the plaque could be installed after that. 2. Identify other sites for plaques -Already discussed. 3. Provide input on Carrillo Ranch Masterplan -Already discussed. Historic Preservation Commission December 8, 1997 Page 3 4. Investigate creation of a Heritage Tree Ordinance -Chairman Bizieff said he did not want another situation dealing with private property like the one with the original Historic Preservation Ordinance. Mr. Armour said he spoke with Don Rideout on the Habitat Management Plan, and he would like to see a list of trees incorporated into it. Commissioner Christiansen said that many trees in town were originally used as boundaries, so there is some history there. Chairman Bizieff would like to know more about what the Ordinance would involve and feels that only those trees with some geographical or historical significance warrant a plaque-not just trees with significant age. Mr. Armour added that the City Council had unanimously accepted the revised Historic Preservation Ordinance at their last meeting. 5. Further cooperation with schools on walking tours of historic sites and on the third grade art contest -Chairman Bizieff commented that the results of previous discussions on this topic were that the Historical Society brochure seems to suffice for the walking tour. 6. Participate in California Sesquicentennial celebration and National Historic PreseNation Week -Mr. Armour explained that the 150th anniversary of the State of California is coming up in 1999, and we have received a grant in the amount of $500 form the California Council for the Humanities and the State Library to sponsor a series of discussion groups, to be coordinated with activities the Arts Commission is sponsoring. He has secured the services of a scholar from Mira Costa College to lead the discussion groups, which will be about 20 people and will probably be held in one of the buildings in Magee Park. Discussion will be on an anthology called "Gold Rush," a series of writings by famous authors including Mark Twain. The Commission's contribution to National Historic Preservation Week in the past three years has been to help organize the 3rd grade art contest. The Commissioner who spearheaded this in the past is no longer with us, but her associate, Arts Commissioner Susan Pynes, has agreed to co-chair for one more year. With a past participation of close to 300 students, this event has been very successful, enjoyed by students and parents alike. Students develop artwork relative to Carlsbad's history according to guidelines, and they are judged by members of the Historical Society, Arts Commission, and Historic Preservation Commission. We need to start to look at it, as it comes in about the middle of May. Procedures are already established, and Mr. Armour has already contacted all the teachers involved. Twenty-one (21) classrooms at seven different schools will receive a packet of information, which has become a part of the curriculum for the third grade. Chairman Bizieff asked for a volunteer from the Commission, and Ramona Finnila remarked that this project had humble beginnings but is now the best representation of a unifying community event, giving a sense of pride in the whole community. It is an extremely significant event, and she encouraged each Commissioner to participate. Chairman Bizieff requested this item to be on the agenda for the next meeting. 7. Help fund and publicize restoration of original Santa Fe Depot stove and historic town safe -Already discussed. t Historic Preservation Commission December 8, 1997 Page 4 8. Revise, print, and distribute brochure on historic preservation in Carlsbad -This was suggested by Commissioner Muth, who found the old brochure . Mr. Armour will do a draft and submit it to the Commission. 9. Acquire and relocate Tootsie K Ranch sign -Mr. Armour found that many years ago someone had communicated with S:~be,J1J@r~~~e, the owner of the property, and gotten her permission to take the sign. The issue now is to find an appropriate place to put it, perhaps in Magee Park up against the Barn after it is shored up. Mr. Armour will reintroduce himself to Mrs. Gross to determine if she is still willing to donate the sign, and we will proceed from there. 10. Continue to develop library-based collection of resources on historic preservation -Mr. Armour would like to see us develop written resources as part of our informational and public relations effort. He receives things from national historic preservation groups from which he has made recommendations to the Commission for acquisition. This collection should occasionally be brought in on a truck for viewing, and eventually should be catalogued and made available to the public. This would represent approximately $200 out of the annual budget. 11. Assist library in project to index the CARLSBAD JOURNAL -Mr. Armour has brought this up in the past, an ongoing project with some new computer software called tl]11m;ij'Q:!~~ He feels that of all the historic resources in Carlsbad, the single most important one is the local newspaper. We hold copies of the Carlsbad Journal in hard copy and on film from 1926 on, but we can't access the information without an index. We are also indexing the North County Times, focusing on Carlsbad. Searches will be done based on key words, people and places in a database that eventually will be on the City network. We have trained volunteers from the Historical Society taking issues home at night and entering the data. It will take a long time, but it will be an invaluable resource. We can publicize this and encourage more volunteers to participate. Mr. Armour also discussed the historical photo collection. 12. Meet with Carlsbad Historical Society Board of Directors to discuss joint projects and ways to cooperate on tours, oral history, archive development, public programs, and creation of a city museum -Chairman Bizieff said the Historical Society Board has always been receptive to working on a more unified basis. This has been hindered somewhat by changes on the Commission in the last six months. He suggested appointing a liaison to the Historical Society Board from the Commission. He encouraged the Commissioners to consider volunteering for this role. 13. Publicize creation of a voluntary Historic Resources Inventory (revised Historic Preservation Ordinance) -Chairman Bizieff suggested that Commissioner Jones take on the inventory project since he had enjoyed it in the past. Mr. Armour pointed out that, in the process of the restructuring of the Ordinance, the Council deleted the original inventory of 325 properties. He asked if we should consider a public relations campaign to inform the public that they can voluntarily participate. Chairman Bizieff suggested we discuss this with the Historical Society, and Mr. Armour will bring it up at the Historical Society meeting. Chairman Bizieff suggested that new or additional goals should be submitted for discussion at the next Commission meeting. ( Historic Preservation Commission December 8, 1997 Page 5 ANNOUNCEMENTS/COMMITTEE REPORTS: Chairman Bizieff mentioned that Commissioner Jones had given some updates on the Barrio plan, but the situation was on hold indefinitely. Commissioner Trejo said that the opposition had not done anything. She said they may be getting a Community Center. They are encouraging this so that young people can have something to do. She feels it is important for them to have interests and things to look forward to. Commissioner Jones discussed several possibilities for development and design of the area which have been shot down due to misunderstandings. Mr. Armour said that Amelia Irvine, past President of the Historical Society, suggested the Bauer Lumber facility be transported to the Historical Society's property behind Alt Karlsbad as a possible site for a museum. It is feasible, but no plans have been made yet, and the City has not decided how to use the property. Mr. Armour then inquired regarding when the Commissioners would like to receive their agenda packets. There was a concensus that the Friday or Saturday before the meeting would be fine. PUBLIC COMMENTS: NONE. ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA: There was no discussion on this item. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting of December 8, 1997 was adjourned at 7:14 PM. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ /ebecca DiGangi Administrative Secretary