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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MARCH 9, 1998
5:30 PM
City Council Conference Room
Chairman Bizieff called the meeting to order at 6:05 PM.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Also Present Were:
Commissioners Bizieff, Christiansen, Jones, Muth, and Trejo.
Geoff Armour
Bailey Noble
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The minutes of the meeting held January 12, 1998 were unanimously approved as
presented.
HERITAGE TREES:
Commissioner Christiansen reported that he and Commissioner Muth met with Don
Rideout this morning to discuss the possibility of including the Heritage Trees within the
Habitat Management Plan also known as the Wildlife Habitat and Open Space Plan.
Commissioner Christiansen suggested that the Commission needed to establish a
criteria for the selection of the trees as he felt the public would not be comfortable with
a blanket proposal.
Commissioner Muth asked about tree ordinances in other cities and Assistant Library
Director Geoff Armour pointed out that there were several cities that had tree
ordinances. Many are very specific with regard to what could and could not be done
with trees in accordance with size, or species or shape or age. Bailey Noble pointed
out that the City of Carlsbad has a landscape ordinance but that it deals with drought-
resistant plants and some restrictions and limitations on canopy trees.
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Mr. Rideout requested that the Commission gather information and identify trees with a
living history and then he could add the wildlife component. He was especially
interested in the identification of monument trees which were possibly used for
demarcation purposes in the original layout of the City.
Discussion followed on the origin of the Habitat Management Plan for the City of
Carlsbad as well as the County Plan.
Commissioner Christiansen presented the following motion:
"Carlsbad Historic Preservation Commission recommends to the City Council that
Council direct staff to investigate including living history trees within the Habitat
Management Plan."
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Trejo and the vote was 5-0, unanimous.
RESTORATION OF DEPOT STOVE
Assistant Library Director reported on the status of the restoration of the original stove
from the old Santa Fe depot. We have an estimate of $750.00 from Delmar Joyce to
restore the stove. Steve Link from ConVis has agreed that we can place the restored
stove into the depot building. Commissioner Christiansen asked if we had an estimate
of the time frame for completion of the project . Assistant Director Armour said we did
not. Commissioner Muth made the motion that the commission expend the $750 to
repair the stove. Commissioner Christianson seconded and the vote was unanimous.
THIRD GRADE ART CONTEST
Commissioner Trejo reported that the informational packets have been delivered to the
schools and that judging will take place on May 2 at the Senior Center. The formal
award ceremony will be held at the City Council meeting of May 12.
HISTORIC ROUTE 101
Assistant Library Director Armour had been contacted by John Daley from the
Oceanside Historic Preservation Commission requesting to appear before this
commission to talk about designating highway 101 with historical markers. Mr. Daley
proposes to bring with him, Kathryn Flannigan, author of "The Role of Transportation in
the Growth of the City of Oceanside", and Oceanside Senior Planner Rita Baker. The
City of Encinitas has renamed their portion of the highway as "Coast Highway 101"
utilizing the old tan and white shield as the marker. Mr. Daley and the Historical
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Society of Oceanside are spearheading a move to get CalTrans to cooperate with
\ placement of the old shields on highway 101 statewide.
Assistant Library Director Armour stated that this would not involve renaming Carlsbad
Boulevard or Coast Highway but would involve the placement of the old classic highway
markers along the route for informational purposes.
Commissioner Muth asked whether each city would be expected to pay for the
markers/signs on the section of the highway within their city. Commissioner Jones
asked about the portion of the highway that runs through Camp Pendleton. Other
questions included the number of signs and their placement along the route.
Geoff Armour will confirm Mr. Daley on the agenda for the next meeting with the
Commission's approval.
WALKING TOUR BROCHURE
Assistant Library Director Armour reported that at the recent Historical Society Board
Meeting, they agreed to participate in the walking tour project. Margie Monroy and
Dee Morning will represent the Historical Society and Commissioner Muth and
Assistant Library Director Armour will represent this Commission. The meeting is
scheduled for Wednesday, March 11, 1998. Their goal is to have a draft ready by this
summer sometime. The plan is to include other areas of the city in addition to
downtown.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Bizieff received a letter from Mark Steyaert, Carlsbad Parks and Recreation,
regarding the award the City received for the Master Plan for Carrillo Ranch. The
formal acknowledgment of the award and recognition of all the staff and citizens
involved with its development will take place at the City Council Meeting on March 1.0,
1998. Commissioner Jones will be at the meeting and will represent this Commission to
voice their approval of the final project and to thank everyone involved .
WORKSHOP FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
Assistant Library Director Armour reminded the commissioners of the workshop
sponsored by the city for "Effective Media Management."
Geoff also asked if the commissioners would like to be sent copies of the meeting
summaries from all the other commissions. Chairman Bizieff suggested that both the
Arts Commission as well as the Parks and Recreation Commission are two that
possibly have cross interests with this commission. He requested that summaries of
those meetings be included in the packets. It was suggested that possibly Beach
Erosion and the Library Board of Trustee meetings would also be of interest.
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Assistant Director Armour said that as a starter, he would include those summaries in
the packets if the subject matter might be of interest to this commission.
CHURCH PLAQUE
The landscaper is still working on the garden at St. Michael's by the Sea Episcopal
Church. Bailey Noble asked Assistant Director Armour to talk with the landscaper
regarding the placement of the historical plaque. Mr. Noble reports that the current
plans for placement will leave it hidden by the plants. The landscaper has chosen a
position which is not out in front and which stands the danger of being concealed by the
foliage. Mr. Noble is presently working with the vestry on relocating the plaque and
Assistant Director Armour will contact the landscaper.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Mr. Noble reported that at the recent State Planning Commission convention, he heard
a gentleman from Spain address the attendees with regard to historical buildings. The
speaker contended that a 100 year old building was just an old building unless its
historical significance was documented. The point being that you should start to collect
information on the buildings that will have historical significance before they become
historical.
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Assistant Director Armour spoke to Chuck Walden regarding the removal, restoration
and relocation of the sign. Mr. Walden is of the opinion that Rotary Park would be the
best location for the restored sign. The Commissioners were of the opinion that the
size of the sign would make it too overpowering if located in Rotary Park. The issue of
past experiences with vandalism and theft of items on display at Rotary Park are also of
concern to the commission.
Assistant Director Armour stated that it is unclear how the final decision on placement
will be made, but that he is most in favor of it being located in the Magee Park, possibly
in conjunction with the restoration of the old barn on that property.
HISTORICAL SOCIETY NEWS:
Assistant Director Armour reported that the Historical Society is again considering the
sale of the property located behind Alt Carlsbad. They are planning to start a historical
reading and discussion group, and the Annual membership tea is scheduled for April
26, 1998, at Magee House from 2:00 until 4:00 PM.
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ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA:
Habitat Management Plan
Historic Route 101
3rd Grade Art Contest
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the meeting of March 9, 1998, was adjourned at 6:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cissie Se~tl
Administrative Secretary
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