HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-07-13; Historic Preservation Commission; MinutesMEETING OF:
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
July 13, 1998
5:30 PM
City Council Conference Room
Commissioner Jones called the meeting to order at 5:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Also Present Were:
Commissioners Christiansen, Jones, Trejo.
Commissioner Muth arriving at 5:38 p.m.
Commissioner Bizieff
Geoff Armour
Ramona Finnila
Bailey Noble
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of the meeting held May 11, 1998 , were unanimously approved as
amended.
HISTORIC ROUTE 101 SIGNAGE:
Geoff Armour reported that he had called the City Traffic Engineer, Bob Johnson, and
asked him what would be involved in placing the historic signs within the City of
Carlsbad. Mr. Johnson defined the two City permit requirements based on the proposed
location of each sign. If a sign is to be placed in the public right of way, a right of way
permit is required and application is made through the Engineering Department at Las
Palmas. If the proposed sign is to be located on private property, a sign permit is
required from the Planning Department. Other issues to be addressed are the
possibility of sight distance blockage and responsibility for repair or replacement should
the sign be vandalized or stolen. Should the commission wish to pursue this project, still
to be decided are the number of signs and the actual prospective locations.
Commissioner Jones pointed out that it would also be necessary to get permission from
the property owner if the sign was to be located on private property.
In the discussion that followed locations were suggested such as the entrance to the
City near the Lagoon and along State Street which was the old 101 right of way.
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Commissioner Christiansen volunteered to drive around the City to identify potential
locations for the signs. The next step would be to identify the property owners and to
check with Las Palmas on the paperwork required for permits. Commissioner Muth
offered to go with him and they would combine the trip to also identify some of the
historic trees throughout the City.
COLLECTION OF LETTERS FROM MAGEE HOUSE
Geoff Armour reported that Ms. Sue Walwick called to offer for sale a unique collection
of over 2,000 pieces of correspondence dating back to the 1890's. The asking price is
$2,500.00. Mr. Armour has seen the collection and has contacted the City Attorney for
advice on the potential purchase. The Commission was in support of the purchase and
Geoff stated that the Library could probably make the purchase upon receipt of
documentation that Ms. Walwick is the legal owner and has the authority to sell the
collection.
Several ideas were expressed as to where we could store the collection, whether it
could be scanned into the data base similar to the historical photographs or possibly get
the newspaper to publish some of them.
PLANS FOR CEREMONY FOR HISTORIC STOVE
Geoff Armour has been talking with the Hutflesz family who donated the stove, to
ascertain dates they would be available for a dedication ceremony. He has also been
working with Marilyn Strong to coordinate the date with the City Council as well. It is
anticipated that the ceremony will be scheduled in early September. The stove has
been completely restored but is not a working stove as it is not vented in its present
location.
Geoff reminded the Commission that we have the antique safe which weights two tons
and is stored down at the Oak Street facility. He has talked with some restoration
experts about that job and it will be somewhat more costly than the stove. The real
issue is the final location of the item because of the weight. Possibilities are the barn at
Magee Park or maybe at ConVis with the stove.
THIRD GRADE ART CONTEST
The contest has become a very successful program and although Susan Pines of the
Arts Commission has chaired the committee in the past, it is really sponsored by this
Commission and Geoff asked for a volunteer to chair the committee for the next year.
Commissioner Trejo worked on the program this year and agreed to serve as co-chair
with help from Susan Pines and Geoff as a joint effort. Councilmember Finnila
suggested that she could recruit additional volunteers for the program.
WALKING TOUR BROCHURE
There is a draft list of key sites that should be covered in the tour. Geoff has met with
Marge Howard Jones and her recommendation for organizing the tour is to have a
quality map of the entire Northwest Quadrant of the City, possibly prepared by our GIS
department. On the map itself would be photographs of the sites and a paragraph of
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text next to each photograph. The costs should be such that it could be mass produced
and available to tourists at all the hotels in the area as well as the Chamber of
Commerce and ConVis.
ONGOING AND FUTURE PROJECT UPDATES:
Historical Trees: Geoff and Commissioner Christiansen contacted Mark Wisniewski of
Trees for People in Solana Beach, and took him on a tour of the historical areas of the
City. Mr. Wisniewski is very knowledgeable in this field and is preparing a proposal for
the inventory, mapping and study of the historic trees. The cost for this project is
estimated between $2,000 and $3,000 and the final document would include
photographs provided by the City. This would be the first step in asking Council to
include the marker trees in the City's Habitat Management Plan.
St. Michael's Garden: The plaque is ready and Father Mulquin is aware that we are
waiting for the landscape architect and the garden to be finished. Commissioner Muth
commented that she believed the church had made the decision to wait until the new
Lutheran Home construction was completed before they completed the corner garden.
ANNOUNCEMENTS & COMMITTEE REPORTS:
Haymar Street Adobe: Geoff reported that he had received a telephone call from
Shelly Caron who is the current owner of the adobe off Haymar Street in Oceanside.
CalTrans is planning to build an off ramp and overpass for access to Rancho del Oro
Drive to the north. The off ramp will come within 12 feet of the back of the adobe and
she is trying to get support from area preservationists to force CalTrans to change the
location for the ramp. She has contacted several Historical Societies who have written
her letters of support, and she is asking for similar support from this commission. The
telephone call was too late to have this item added to the agenda and therefore the
commission cannot vote on an action at this time.
Lutheran Home Dedication: Comissioner Trejo was a guest at the Lutheran Home
dedication. They included a historical plaque facing Carlsbad Village Drive and buried a
time capsule. She and her husband were invited to the dedication representing the era
when the building was a hotel and she and her husband attended her Junior Prom at
the hotel.
Jazz Concerts in the Park: Commissioner Trejo also reported that she had attended
several of the concerts and they were doing very well again this year.
Historical Property located behind Alt Karlsbad: Geoff Armour reported that several •
people have expressed an interest in buying that piece of property, including the current
owner of Alt Karlsbad. The society has an attorney who is responding to these offers
but at the same time they are talking with Debbie Fountain, Housing and
Redevelopment Director for the City, to see if the City would be interested in taking
over this property. Possibly a deal could be made in which part of the process would be
for the City to turn over to the Historical Society complete control of Magee House and
the Barn. The Historical Society would then be responsible for the upkeep and the barn
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could be repaired and used to house several other major artifacts. One issue driving
the possibility of the sale of the property is the property tax which is due. The land is
only tax exempt as a non-profit if there is a structure on it.
• Barrio: Commissioner Trejo reported there is a lot of activity in the Barrio with a lot of
refurbishing of homes in the area. The gardens are in good shape and the
neighborhood continues to improve.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Bailey Noble addressed the Commission to express his admiration for the job this
Commission is doing. The staff support being provided by the City and the overall
accomplishments are very impressive.
ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA:
Commissioner Jones asked that we schedule election of new officers for the next
meeting. Geoff Armour will check to see if there is a City ordinance regarding election
of officers for the Boards and Commissions, length of term and rotation of offices.
Geoff Armour listed the following as possible follow up items for the next meeting:
Highway 101 Signs; Magee Letters; Third Grade Art Contest for next year; Walking Tour
brochure; St Michael's garden plaque; Historical Trees; Tootsie K Ranch sign and the
antique safe.
Commissioners Trejo and Christiansen discussed the possibility of building a structure
on the vacant land to house the safe and the Tootsie K Ranch sign. This would solve
two problems, create a location for the two artifacts and give the land a tax exempt
status.
ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 6:36 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Administrative Secretary