HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-02-13; City Council; ; McClellan-Palomar Airport – Noise Abatement Advisory Letters Follow-upCA Review __AF_
Meeting Date: Feb. 13, 2024
To: Mayor and City Council
From: Scott Chadwick, City Manager
Staff Contact: Jason Haber, Intergovernmental Affairs Director
jason.haber@carlsbadca.gov, 442-339-2958
Subject: McClellan-Palomar Airport – Noise Abatement Advisory Letters
Follow-up
Districts: All
Recommended Action
Receive an update on the city’s efforts to address noise complaints about flights in and out of
McClellan-Palomar Airport and direct the City Manager or designee to work with the county to
request a Federal Aviation Administration community roundtable to resolve differences
between the county’s recommended flight procedures and FAA flight control practices.
Executive Summary
Staff are presenting this item in response to the City Council’s direction on Dec. 5, 2023, to
conduct research and report back within 90 days regarding the feasibility of issuing advisory
letters to pilots who deviate from the flight patterns outlined in the County of San Diego’s
Voluntary Noise Abatement Procedures for McClellan-Palomar Airport.
Explanation & Analysis
McClellan-Palomar Airport, situated in the City of Carlsbad, is a publicly owned and operated
airport under the jurisdiction of San Diego County. The county implemented its Voluntary Noise
Abatement Procedures to try to mitigate aircraft noise impacts on the surrounding community.
These procedures delineate recommended – though not mandatory – flight patterns for pilots
to adhere to during takeoffs and landings. (Exhibit 1)
However, the flight patterns recommended by the county may not align with the flight
procedures mandated by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the instructions
provided to pilots by air traffic controllers. (Exhibit 2)
Given that the FAA retains sole authority over flight safety, aircraft separation and sequencing
at Palomar Airport, the county does not maintain records or issue noise abatement advisory
letters to pilots who diverge from the voluntary noise abatement procedures about flight
patterns.
Staff have contacted the relevant county and federal agencies and determined that the records
that would be necessary for the City of Carlsbad's to issue letters to pilots who deviate from the
county’s recommended procedures are not readily accessible.
Feb. 13, 2024 Item #8 Page 1 of 8
One potential avenue to address this issue is to initiate an FAA community roundtable, a
process detailed in Exhibit 3. These roundtables can be convened at the behest of the airport
operator – in this case, the County of San Diego – to engage with community stakeholders
regarding concerns related to aircraft operations.
Staff recommend that the City Council instruct the City Manager or designee to collaborate
with the county to request the convening of an FAA community roundtable to address these
issues. The goal of this effort would be to try to reduce aircraft noise impacts by reconciling any
disparities between the county's recommended flight procedures and the FAA's flight control
protocols, so that air traffic controllers direct pilots to follow the flight patterns designed to be
quieter.
Fiscal Analysis
There is no fiscal impact associated with this item.
Next Steps
Upon receiving City Council direction, staff will work with the County of San Diego to request a
Federal Aviation Administration community roundtable to resolve differences between the
county’s recommended flight procedures and FAA flight control practices.
Environmental Evaluation
This action does not require environmental review because it does not constitute a project
within the meaning of the California Environmental Quality Act under California Public
Resources Code Section 21065 in that it has no potential to cause either a direct physical
change or a reasonably foreseeable indirect physical change in the environment.
Exhibits
1. County of San Diego McClellan-Palomar Airport: Pilot VNAP Handout
2. FAA: McClellan-Palomar Airport - Airport Diagram
3. FAA: Community Roundtable Information Sheet
Feb. 13, 2024 Item #8 Page 2 of 8
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TAKEOFF RUNWAY 24: Climb heading 245° to 2300, expect vectors to cross GYWNN at
on track 308° to PADRZ, then on track 337° to cross CWARD at or below 12000, thence. . . .
until established on heading 245°, expect vectors to cross GYWNN at or above 6000, then
TAKEOFF RUNWAY 6: Climbing left turn heading 245° to 2300, do not exceed 210K
after departure.
. . . .on transition. Maintain ATC assigned altitude. Expect filed altitude 10 minutes
NOTE: Tower En Route control only.
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of 255' per NM to 1700.
Rwy 6: Standard with minimum climb
TAKEOFF MINIMUMS
NOTE: Chart not to scale.
DEPARTURE ROUTE DESCRIPTIONT
SHAFTER TRANSITION (PADRZ2.EHF)
OROSZ TRANSITION (PADRZ2.OROSZ)
MALIT TRANSITION (PADRZ2.MALIT)
IKAYE TRANSITION (PADRZ2.IKAYE)
DINTY TRANSITION (PADRZ2.DINTY)
CHKNN TRANSITION (PADRZ2.CHKNN)
SEE, SDM and RNM airports.
DINTY and MALIT TRANSITIONS NA from
DINTY TRANSITION ATC assigned only.
Oceanside (OCN) must be operational.
For non-GPS equipped aircraft,
DINTY, MALIT TRANSITIONS: GPS only.
required.
TRANSITIONS: DME/DME/IRU or GPS
CHKNN, SHAFTER, IKAYE, OROSZ
Turbojets and turboprops only.
RADAR required.
RNAV 1.
8000, then on track 308° to PADRZ, thence. . . .
2300, expect vectors to cross GYWNN at or above
TAKEOFF RUNWAY 24: Climb heading 245° to
thence. . . .
at or above 8000, then on track 308° to PADRZ,
on heading 245°, expect vectors to cross GYWNN
245° to 2300, do not exceed 210K until established
TAKEOFF RUNWAY 6: Climbing left turn heading
altitude 10 minutes after departure.
. . . .on (transition). Maintain 15000. Expect higher
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Last Updated March 14, 2018
FAA
Community Roundtable Information Sheet
There are many different community engagement mechanisms that can be used to address aircraft noise or other
concerns, depending on the circumstances. This information sheet provides information on one of those mechanisms,
Community Roundtables.
What is a “Roundtable”?
•“Roundtable,” in the aviation context, is generally a term for an organization designed to address community
concerns over a sustained period of time regarding aircraft operations often associated with a nearby airport.
•Most roundtables are voluntarily formed by an airport, local government, or through an agreement among multiple
jurisdictions. The most productive roundtables are typically made up of representatives from multiple communities
around an airport, who are or may be affected by aircraft operations, and the airline industry and other stakeholders
–often in an advisory role or on technical committees and working groups, who can offer additional perspectives
and expertise.
•Roundtables typically have group-approved charters or bylaws that provide an agreed upon structure for
membership, running meetings, the scope of the issues being addressed by the roundtable, and making decisions.
How can a Roundtable help?
•A roundtable brings together airport, community, and airline industry representatives to collaboratively identify and
discuss issues of concern and possible resolutions at the same time.
•A roundtable may elect to make recommendations, including possible changes in operations, which could address
community noise or other concerns. Ideally, applicable recommendations are first coordinated through the airport
who will then, as appropriate, forward them to the applicable entity (e.g., the FAA, airlines, or zoning authority).
•A roundtable can assist and advise the FAA on community outreach or information needs, and help the FAA
understand community priorities.
What is FAA’s Role?
•FAA representatives can participate in roundtable meetings to provide technical information and advice, but should
not be members and do not vote on roundtable recommendations. The most productive roundtables invite FAA
representatives either as regular attendees or on an as-needed basis, providing a clear agenda topic with sufficient
advance notice to enable FAA to identify appropriate representation and prepare information.
•The FAA can support roundtables in several ways. For example, the FAA Air Traffic Organization can provide
technical expertise on operational issues and airspace procedural design when requested by the roundtable.
Similarly, the FAA Office of Airports can provide information about airport operations, airport design, and grant
assurances, as well as important information regarding an airport’s role in the voluntary Part 150 noise compatibility
planning program, and the regional and national system of airports.
•The FAA looks to the roundtable to make recommendations, ideally in coordination with the airport, that have some
recognition of the impacts (e.g., to the airspace and all potentially affected communities) and reflect thorough
discussion/vetting before raising them to the applicable entity (e.g., potential airspace operational changes to the
FAA, flight schedule concerns to the airlines) for consideration.
•After the FAA determines a thoroughly discussed/vetted recommendation for an airspace operational change to be
initially feasible and flyable, from a safety and efficiency perspective, the FAA has to conduct mandated
environmental and safety reviews. If the FAA determines it can proceed with the recommendation, these reviews
can have many steps, are dependent on available resources and may take a period of months or years to begin or
accomplish. The FAA can provide the roundtable with more detailed information about the processes, timetables,
and milestones where the roundtable can expect to be updated by the FAA on the environmental and safety
reviews.
•In the FAA’s experience, the most effective roundtable recommendations reflect consensus among its membership –
which includes considering issues and inputs from all potentially affected communities. Consensus
recommendations tend to result in long-term, satisfactory solutions and often reflect the need to balance competing
interests.
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Noise Abatement Procedures
Jason Haber, Intergovernmental Affairs Director
City Manager’s Office
Feb. 13, 2024
PROPOSED ACTION
Receive an update on efforts to address noise
complaints about flights in and out of Palomar
Airport and direct City Manager to work with
the county to request a FAA community
roundtable to resolve differences between the
county’s recommended flight procedures and
FAA flight control practices.
ITEM 8:PALOMAR AIRPORT NOISE
BACKGROUND
•Dec. 5, 2023 – Council direction to research and
report back on feasibility of issuing advisory
letters to pilots who deviate from the flight
patterns outlined in the County of San Diego’s
Voluntary Noise Abatement Procedures for
McClellan-Palomar Airport.
ITEM 8:PALOMAR AIRPORT NOISE
Webtrack
https://webtrak.emsbk.com/crq
Two Weeks of Overflight Traffic Around Palomar Airport
1
Federal Aviation Administration
Community Roundtable
Convened at airport operator’s request
Engage community stakeholders
Address concerns regarding aircraft
operations
Goal: Reconcile discrepancies between
VNAP recommendations and
FAA flight control practices
ITEM 8:PALOMAR AIRPORT NOISE
PROPOSED ACTION
Receive an update on efforts to address noise
complaints about flights in and out of Palomar
Airport and direct City Manager to work with
the county to request a FAA community
roundtable to resolve differences between the
county’s recommended flight procedures and
FAA flight control practices.
ITEM 8:PALOMAR AIRPORT NOISE