HomeMy WebLinkAboutCT 93-09; Ocean Bluff; Tentative Map (CT) (59)MEETING NOTES - MARCH 25, 1994
JACK HENTHORN, BOB WINETEER, LEX WILLIMAN, JIM DAVIS
OCEANBLUFF - CT 93-09
DISCUSSED TWO ISSUES: (DETENTION BASIN AND STREET D CONNECTION TO
BLACKRAIL:
1. SHOWED THE NEW PLACEMENT FOR DETENTION BASIN WHICH WILL
RESULT IN AN APPROX. 20' WIDE BY 50' LONG ENCROACHMENT INTO THE
25% SLOPES CONTAINING VEGETATION AND DESGNATED AS OPEN SPACE.
WILL PROPOSE MITIGATION IN THE FORM OF REVEG OF AREA ON THE
NORTHWEST CORNER - BIOLOGIST WILL SUBMIT MAP IDENTIFYING THE
SPECIFIC VEGETATION TO BE DISTURBED TO ENABLE THE WATER LINE
AND ACCESS ROAD
RESEARCH QUESTION: WHAT DOES SPECIFIC PLAN SAY REGARDING THE OPEN
SPACE
2. APPLICANT IS OPPOSING THE CONNECTION TO BLACKRAIL OF STREET D
ARGUMENTS BASED UPON BLACKRAIL IS A POTENTIAL COLLECTOR AND
THEREFORE THE CONNECTION WOULD VIOLATE THE INTERSECTION
SPACING STANDARD/ALSO WOULD CREATE UNDESIRABLE QUALITY OF
LIFE
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ADT TO JUSTIFY OPENING THE ROAD - QUALITY
OF LIFE DIMINISHED FOR THOSE RESIDENTS DUE TO THE CREATION OF A
PARALLEL COLLECTOR - CONNECTION OF BLACKRAIL WOULD RESULT IN
CORNER LOT HAVING FRONTAGE ON THREE ROADWAYS. THEY WILL
SUBMIT A TRAFFIC STUDY PROJECTING THE NUMBER OF ADT USING ALL
ROADWAYS THROUGH PROJECT OR PROVIDING ACCESS TO PROJECT
INTERIM SITUATION UNTIL POINSETTIA IS CONSTRUCTED - NOT GOOD
POLICY TO CONDITION PROJECT TO BE DESIGNED TO COMPENSATE FOR
AN INTERIM CONDITION SINCE CIRCULATION WILL WORK WELL ONCE
POINSETTIA IS CONSTRUCTED.
MEETING OF 3/28/93 - JACK HENTHORN AND TONY LAWSON
1. VISUAL IMPACTS - ARCHITECTURAL CRITERIA FOR LOTS - THEY PROVIDED
AN EXHIBIT WHICH PURPORTEDLY ILLUSTRATES THAT ONLY A FEW OF
THE LOTS ON THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN BOUNDARIES HAVE IMPACTS
POTENTIAL TO IMPACT VIEW CORRIDOR (PALOMAR AIRPORT RD). THEY
ARGUED THAT LOTS ALONG THE RIDGELINE WILL HAVE NO VISUAL
IMPACT TO ANY ROADWAY. I EXPLAINED THAT WE HAVE TO CONDITION
PROJECT TO COMPLY WITH HILLSIDE ORD AS WELL AS THE SPECIFIC
PLAN. THAT WILL RESULT IN APPLYING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
REQUIRING THAT 50% OF THE LOTS HAVE ONE STORY ELEMENTS OR 10%
ARE SINGLE STORY UNITS (FOR THOSE IMPACTING ROADS) AND THAT ONE
AND TWO STORY UNITS (AMOUNT TO BE DETERMINED) WILL BE REQUIRED
IN THE SUBDIVISION TO COMPLY WITH HILLSIDE. THEY WANTED TO
KNOW "VISIBLE FROM WHERE". i EXPLAINED THAT AS PART OF THE HDP,
WE CONSIDER THE VISIBILITY FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA - NOT JUST
ROADWAYS. THEY WILL PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT IDENTIFYING ANY VISUAL
IMPACT FROM ALGA/PASEO DEL NORTE AND WE AGREED THAT THE
HIGHER LOTS WILL BE VISIBLE FROM POINSETTIA. THEREFORE, THEY
WILL PROPOSE CONDITIONS TO REGULATE THE MIX OF ARCHITECTURE ON
THE LOTS.
2. TRAIL LOCATION/50' LANDSCAPE SETBACK -1 INDICATED THAT THE WALL
WOULD HAVE TO BE AT THE 50'SETBACK LINE WITH A 25' TRAIL
EASEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLANS (REQUIRE AN IRREVOCABLE OFFER OF
DEDICATION FOR THIS AREA FOR MAINTENANCE AND LIABILITY). THEY
ARGUED THAT THE 50' WAS NOT SOLELY A LANDSCAPED SETBACK ALONG
THE ROADWAY AND THAT A PORTION OF THIS AREA WAS FOR USE BY
PROPERTY OWNER AS A REAR YARD - I.E. THE 50' IS A STRUCTURAL
SETBACK. THE SPECIFIC PLAN REFERS TO IT AS A PARKWAY/BUFFER. MY
DISCUSSION WITH TERRY WOODS LATER IN THE DAY INDICATES THAT
THIS 50' LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAS NOT TO BE FOR USE AS A YARD BY
INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS BUT RATHER AS A GREENWAY WHICH
INCORPORATES THE TRAIL. ORDINARILY, THE GREENWAY AND TRAIL
WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN CLOSE PROXIMTY TO ROADWAY (SHOULD
BE IN OS CORRIDORS SEPARATED FROM ROADWAYS). DUE TO SMALL
OWNERSHIPS, OS COMMITTEE AGREED THAT ZONE 20 COULD UTILIZE THE
50' LS BUFFER FOR GREENWAY AND TRAIL INSTEAD OF REQUIRING THE
USUAL 100' WIDE GREENWAY BUFFER WHICH INCLUDES A 20' TRAIL
EASEMENT.
OCEANBLUFF
Based upon the conditions submitted from David Hauser, tell the applicant that he must show
the proposed alignment of Poinsettia and Blackrail and provide bio studies confirming
potential impacts and necessary mitigation to reduce those impacts to insignificant levels. If
the applicant wishes to propose as an alternative, the emergency secondary access proposed
for this project, he must also submit detailed improvement plans showing the alignment and
bio studies identifying the impact to any vegetation along with acceptable mitigation. If this
does not occur, and Planning Commission wishes to consider for approval the secondary
access instead of authorizing staff to make a decision regarding the alternative prior to final
map , then the project would have to be returned to staff for environmental review prior to
any further action by commission or council.
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