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Home My WebLink AboutPS 07-129; Pat & Oscar's; Sign Permits/Programs (PS)City of Carlsbad 1635 Faraday Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 (760)602-4610 PLANNING APPLICATION # PSofOl%'\ REC'D BY mboM l\A!l&A^ DATE ./ SIGN FEE. SIGN PROGRAM FEE RECEIPT NO. REVIEW FOR SIGN PERMIT Planning Department AU plans submitted for sign permits/sign programs shall consist of a minimum of a site plan and sign elevations containing the following information: 1. North arrow and scale. 2. Location of existing buildings or structures, parking areas, and vehicular access points to the property. 3. Location of all existing and proposed signs for the property. 4. Distance to the property line(s) for all proposed freestanding sign(s). 5. Provide an elevation for all proposed sign(s) which specifies the following: A. Dimensions and area for all existing and proposed sign(s). B. Materials the sign(s) will be constructed of. C. Source of Illumination. D. Proposed sign copy. APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT THREE (3) SETS OF SIGN/SITE PLANS, A COMPLETE^ APPLICATION FORM, AND THE APPLICATION FEE. The application must be submitted prior to 4;00 p.m. Average processing time: 2 weeks NAME OF PROJECT: P^VT t OSC/^R'^ PLETED f/\f^ ADDRESS OF PROJECT: RCo^ Pl^LOMAjZ. AlgPOt^T gP. ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER: ^U-Q^VO- 3<f RELATED PLANNING CASE NUMBER(S): TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT: (a) Residential ^^mj Commercial (c) Office/Industrial (d) Hotel/Motel (e) Service Station (f) Prof. Care (g) Theater (h) Govt/Church (i) Public Park (j) Produce Stand (k) Nursery (1) P-U/OSZone SIGN PROGRAM AND/OR SPECMC PLAN CRITERIA YesKl No • Vn^LAGE REDEVELOPMENT AREA YesD No SIGN ORDINANCE: YesK No • COASTAL ZONE: YesD No Form 10 Revised 12/04 Specific Plan Number _ Requires VR Approval Page 1 of 4 EXISTING SIGNS: TYPE NUMBER SIGN AREA SIGN HEIGHT Pole O Monument ( COST C O ^ SZ- 5P WaU PAr^osc/^va*^ 18 -SF W&r Suspended o Directional o Canopy o Freestanding (Project Identity) o PERMITS ISSUED FOR EXISTING SIGNS: Yes ^ PROPOSED PERMANENT SIGNS: No • Date Pg'o 3-)-0\ TYPE MAXIMUM NUMBER ALLOWED NUMBER PROPOSED MAXIMUM SIGN AREA PROPOSED SIGN AREA MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT PROPOSED SIGN HEIGHT Pole** O Monument** I I SO "SP WaU O Suspended Directional a Canopy 0 Freestanding** (Project Identity) o PROPOSED TEMPORARY SIGNS: TYPE MAXIMUM NUMBER ALLOWED NUMBER PROPOSED MAXIMUM SIGN AREA PROPOSED SIGN AREA MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT PROPOSED SIGN HEIGHT Construction** For Sale** Banner **Prior to approval, aU proposed pole, monument, and freestanding signs must be reviewed for potential sight distance and visibility issues. Additional information must supplement this appUcation showing how the proposed signage wiU not encroach into the pubUc right-of-way or present a traffic hazard. Page 3 of 4 iUustrates an example for what would be required for such proposed signs. ********* Form 10 Revised 12/04 * * * * * Page 2 of4 EXISTING SIGN PROGRAMS OR SPECIFIC PLAN SIGN CRITEIUA TOTAL BUILDING STREET FRONTAGE TOTAL SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE EXISTING SIGNAGE (SQ. FT.) REMAINING SIGN ALLOWANCE AT PRESENT PROPOSED SIGNAGE (SQ. FT.) REMAINING SIGN ALLOWANCE AFTER PROPOSED SIGN ft. . sq. ft. . sq. ft. .sq. ft. . sq. ft. . sq. ft. OWNER APPLICANT NAME (PRINT OR TYPE) NAME (PRINT OR TYPE) MAILING ADDRESS MAILING ADDRESS CITY AND STATE ZIP TELEPHONE CTTYANDSTATE ZIP TELEPHONE ' a > oo I CERTIFY THAT I AM THE LEGAL OWNER AND THAT ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. I CERTIFY THAT I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGAL OWNER AND THAT ALL THE ABOVE INFORMA- TION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. SIGNATURE DATE S^NATURE ' DATE PLANNER CHECK LIST I. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Field check by planner. Within maximum length, area. Style consistent with Sign Program and/or Specific Plan criteria, if applicable. Legation: • In right-of-way • In visibility triangle at comer Pole and monument signs to be checked by Traffic Engineering, for visibility issues. When approved route copy to Data Entry |M"1ILUI''CD. ' Planner: Date: ***************** Form 10 Revised 12/04 ************* Page 4 of 4 EXISTING SIGN PROGRAMS OR SPECIFIC PLAN SIGN CRITERIA TOTAL BUILDING STREET FRONTAGE „ 9 4- TOTAL SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE g <\ EXISTING SIGNAGE (SQ. FT.) REMAINING SIGN ALLOWANCE AT PRESENT LB_ PROPOSED SIGNAGE (SQ. FT.) O REMAINING SIGN ALLOWANCE AFTER PROPOSED SIGN O ft. , sq. ft. .sq. ft. .sq.ft. . sq. ft. , sq. ft. I OWNER APPLICANT NAME (PRINT OR TYPE) NAME (PRINT OR TYPE) f ATT ^ 03CfS(fa'<=» -ilN^ MiCOC^OU MAILING ADDRESS "Tiff Wi/< MAILING ADDRESS CITY AND STATE ZIP TELEPHONE CITY AND STATE ZIP TELEPHONE 1 CERTIFY THAT I AM THE LEGAL OWNER AND TOAT ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. 1 CERTIFY THAT I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGAL OWNER AND THAT ALL THE ABOVE INFORMA- TION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. SIGNATURE p^^E SJF^fNATURE ' DATE PLANNER CHECK LIST; I. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Field check by planner. Within maximum length, area. Style consistent with Sign Program and/or Specific Plan criteria, if applicable. Location: In right-of-way • In visibility triangle at comer Pole and monument signs to be checked by Traffic Engineering, for visibility issues. When approved route copy to Data Entry APPROVED: Planner: Date: ********* Form 10 Revised 12/04 • « « * * Page 4 of4 FILE COPY City of Carlsbad I- lO-O*^ Planning Department January 10, 2008 James Middleton Pat & Oscar's 1069 Westview Parkway San Diego, CA 92126 SUBJECT: PAT & OSCAR'S SIGN PERMIT PS 07-129 Dear Mr. Middleton, Ttiis letter is in regard to your application for a sign permit for ttie Pat & Oscar's restaurant located at 965 Palomar Airport Road, in the City of Carlsbad. The sign application proposes a monument sign on a piece of property that is not part of the Pat & Oscar's site. Off-site signs are prohibited by the Sign Ordinance, Chapter 21.41.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code. Also, the proposed sign is 50 square feet. The Pat & Oscar's building has 55 lineal feet of street frontage. The site is in the Commercial Visitor Serving Overlay Zone in which the total signage allowance is calculated at one square foot of signage per lineal foot of building frontage so the total allowance for signage at the site is 55 square feet. 44 square feet have been used for the two existing wall signs permitted on February 20, 2001 by sign permit PS 01-13. Eleven square feet of potential sign footage remain. Please amend the sign application to propose an on-site sign and location that conforms to the allowable square footage. If you have any questions please call me at (760) 602-4619. Thank you, DEBORAH MILAM Planning Technician DM:lt c: file copy 1635 Faraday Avenue • Carlsbad, CA 92008-7314 • (760) 602-4600 • FAX (760) 602-8559 • www.ci.C£u-lsbad.ca.us EXHIBIT "B" EMSnHC EnmRGB) SHE PIAN LIGHTING: YELLOW BACKGROUND BLACK LETTERS UL APPROVED FLORESCENT T-8 ON TIME CLOCK BLACK ANODIZED FRAME OFF WHITE PLEXIGLASS FACE —18' Stucco Metal Skirt to no ;ch building color, I +/- BQC1< of .Wall-< SCALEi l/R" = PRDPDSED MONUMENT SIGN 965 Palonar Airport Road Carlsbad, CA, 11/19/07 3'-8 STEEL COLUMN .-Footing j'ames Middleton Construction Manager 10679 Westview Parkway £3w&W ^^^^^ 695-8500 X3218 San Diego, CA 92126 /WJVt/l#CV Fax (858) 695-8110 December 26, 2007 RECEIVED Van W. Lynch Senior Planner City of Carisbad DE': 2 8 ' -7 Planning Development PITV r\c- 1635 Faraday Avenue. Carisbad, CA. 92008-7314 Re: Proposed Monument sign Application Pat & Oscar's #11 965 Palomar Airport Road Carisbad, CA. 92011 Dear Van, Pat & Oscar's is submitting an application for a monument sign at our existing location on Palomar Airport Rd. We are a separate parcel along with the COSTCO Wholesale parcel. The site has two free standing monument signs identifying COSTCO only and none identifying Pat & Oscar's. We have approached COSTCO in the past to go on their signs and have rejected the idea because it would reduce their signage. We re-approached COSTCO recently and they said they would support us and allow us to have our own monument sign. They have signed the application as owner because the sign would go their parcel. We desire our own identity and sign anyway. Our building is situated behind a 50 foot landscaped setback and mound along Palomar Airport Rd. which has fully developed with matured bushes and trees. The building signs which were almost 85% visible when the project was first opened are now 10 to 15% visible from the street as you are traveling West on Palomar Airport Rd. People traveling West cannot see our building signs long enough to know we are there. The posted speed limit is 35 MPH but we know the speed is more, which decreases recognition of our location and building. If you travel West on the far right lane, which becomes a right turn only, you can not see our side sign and our front sign until you get to the comer/ signal. It is even worse from the center and left lanes because if you could see our building or signs, you cannot get over to the right lane in time to get to our parcel. This is situation and condition has worsened since the West side of Carlsbad has been developing over the past few years. We are not COSTCO and have no recognition with them or them with us. We are very much in competition with other grandfathered restaurants with better signage and better visibility. We still have guests tell us, to this day, they did not know we were there. Compared to our other restaurants with better recognition and signage, this restaurant does not perform as well as we feel it should because of visibility. We strongly feel that if we had more visible signage on Palomar Airport Road with a small monument sign 6' X 6' per the code that meet this would help bring in more customers and at least let them know where we are. We are on the going home side of the road and we are primarily a family dinner restaurant. Better signage would let his would help our dinner business tremendously as well. We are on a separate parcel and the ONLY other tenant with COSTCO and therefore there are no other competitors for signs. We respectfully request your review and consideration to allow us to have our own identification on Palomar Airport Road. The sign will meet all code requirements per the attached submittals. If you have any questions or need any further information, please contact me at 858-695-8500 X3218. Sincerely Jim Middleton Construction Manager CC: John Wright, Brent bunkin, George Hunter EXHIBIT "B" SITE DATA resTAwwa PBJC£»TB9Wse,»IC. 4644 WWM (LVD. <M PESO, CAW TBje»Jsw«a5 COiTACTt MBBtr C. SIOTOA M" IKAL ESTAlB S<C CMPMtf. INC. dM OSCARS RCSTAUWOS «Z PA£«% M90KI5 SUTE J VMpeeo,cA.02i 1Bj(lttftJH3-4<DO COKTAcr. Rm-WMi^ MKXTIB^Ti SCMSfr^XMK. AN ARCM1TC11R>>L i:OH>. OmjCAKT) 44MKEWn'VtlAflD. 5TE.ai5 6WnEaO,CA 006 TBj(eu;5V-3«0 px. a»; 91^4M6 CCHTACT> H(MW9CHE6 TtTE6F«¥UCATlCH as«TAL PMlOPWr f»*T cotcmotM. USE pem«T snECCVBOBWrPLAH as«TAL PMlOPWr f»*T cotcmotM. USE pem«T snECCVBOBWrPLAH 4fi6 PAU*V>R An>aia ROAD <«. 3(1.04044-00 U5SM. JIQSCr,:niCH CnTCFCARJOW o-a-o (SBTOL «o»iocc cot«ucAL zae> StZEOFPMCC^ l-BAi^raS TI088SF nWPCffi> OSOKS RST.-lltANT. 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E»05T1H6 PAROe SP«E TO H9WH Iff 0 W Irf t0 Re-. .>cra CUM CHO COBl orr BW 1-ie-oi [OIGH CAL f; 1-16-01 bu«d to plon ctitd. flnt r»ch(0< pOTTUlt a: >« 0 FXISnNG ENLARGED SITE PLAN ENJUiCED S1E run FMnonPE plan dtk SD1 .0 :2 o {A I LIGHTING; YELLOW BACKGROUND BLACK LETTERS Min. 6" UL APPRDVED ELDRESCENT T-8 UN TIME CLUCK BLACK ANGDIZED ERAME UEE WHITE PLEXIGLASS EACE ^8" Stucco Metal Skirt to natch building color + /- Back of Walk SCALEi \/^L^Y-^ PRDPDSED MDNUMENT SIGN 965 Palonar Airport Road Carlsbad, CA. 11/19/07 COLUMN ooting <J B B B 8 Bf> WEST ELEVATION SCALE 3/3 2"= I'-O" ft <:8 i B> <::8 B B B B f> <: <-.Klltli:IIIIIIIIIIUIilll»iai>i3 .-Uli;iiail!liililitlllllllltliltllHA ontinnninmiumtiHumnmnnT^ i B:> NORTH ELEVATION SCALE 3/32'=l'-Cr PROJECT TITLE PAT'N OSCAR'S ADDRESS PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, CARLSBAD ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE NICK NUTTER FILE #PATNOS07 DESIGN #000000 REVISED JANUARY 31,2001 MAT 4'-0' PRIMARY ELEaRICAL TO SIGN LOCATIONS IS TO BE PROVIDED BY OTHERS. A DEDICATED CIRCUIT WITH NO SHARED NEUTRALS AND A GROUND RETURNING TO THE PANEL IS REQUIRED FOR ALL INSTALLATIONS. 8-0" SCALE 3/8'= r-0" ELECTRICAL A • V E RT i 51 IM Q 5450 COMPLEX STREET, SUITE 307 SAN DIEGO, CA 92123(866)569-1400 ALL CRIMARY ELECTRICAL TO SIONS / TRANSFORMER& TO PE SUf PLIED OTHERS 115 0KI(5INAL PESIf^N 16 THE 50LE PKOFERTY OV ULTRANE leN COMPANY. IT CANNOT RE KEPROPUCEP, COPIED OP. EXHIL3ITED, IN WHOLE OP PART. WITHOUT F1R5T OBTAININC? WRITTEN CONSENT FROM ULTRANEON SIC5N COMPANY,