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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-11-22; Encina Joint Advisory Committee Ad Hoc; Minutesc CITY CLERK ENCINA JOINT POWERS MINUTES OF THE JOINT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 1977 AT THE ENCINA WATER POLLUTION CONTROL FACILITY CONFERENCE ROOM Ed Stiles, Chairman Stanley Mahr, Vice Chairman 1. CALL TO ORDER Vice Chairman Mahr called the meeting to order at 9:05 A.M. ROLL CALL Present: County of San Diego Buena Sanitation District San Marcos County Water District Vista Sanitation District Leucadia County Water District Encinitas Sanitary District City of Carlsbad Encina Joint Powers League of Women Voters Carlsbad Journal Absent: County of San Diego JAC Counsel Guests: Brown and Caldwell Lake Calavera CM Engineering Associates BPZA Encinitas Sanitary District Board Encinitas Sanitary District Board Citizen Chuck Oldsen Ed Stiles, Bill Dominquez Jim McKay, Stanley Mahr J. J. Zapotocky, Bob Foo Richard Hanson, Stan Van Sickle Mark Schneider, Jack Kubota Mary Casler, A. J. Skotnicki Ron Beckman Les Evans Ruth Honnold, Jane Skotnicki Jan Stevens Jim Frandsen Roy H. Gann, Esq. Graham Fraser Edward Donald Jerry Frieling Fred Wilson Jack Filance, President Walter Lister Paul Eckert JOINT ADVISORY 1ITTEE MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 22, 1977 2. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 26, 1977 MEETING Chairman Mahr asked for approval of the October 26, 1977 minutes as submitted. On motion by Mr. Zapotocky, seconded by Mr. Foo, the motion carried. PRESENTATION 3. Dave Nielsen, Director of the San Diego Regional Growth Manage- ment Office, was introduced by Bill Dominquez. Mr. Nielsen ad- dressed the JAC on "Potential Candidate Growth Areas". He explained that the objectives of growth management is to di- rect urban growth to areas contiguous to existing development and areas where public facilities exist. Additional objectives are to provide affordable housing, preserve environmentally sen- sative areas and contain the costs of additional services with- in the developing areas. Condidate growth areas, he explained, are areas where we hope the bulk of urban growth would be di- rected between now and 1995. Mr. Neilsen indicated that the County would defer to cities in planning areas which are in city spheres of influence or which appear to be in city spheres. INFORMATION 4. COASTAL COMMISSION PERMIT STATUS Chairman Mahr asked Mr. Evans to report on any further develop- ment with the Coastal Commission Permit Conditions. Mr. Evans reported that on Tuesday, November 15, 1977, the agen- cies of the Joint Powers, who are directly affected by the con- dition suggested by the Coastal Commission staff, met with Jim McGrath, Permit Analyst, who is working on our permit. Mr. McGrath explained the Coastal Commission's staff opinion as the very fact that a piece of property lay within a sewering agency or district increased the value of that property. Conse- quently, the assessed value and the tax increase make it less attractive as an agricultural piece of property and the pressure to develop the property to a higher use increases. To alleviate this pressure created by the owners of the property on the Coastal Commission, the Coastal Commission would rather have the agencies, the Encina Joint Powers, de-annex these areas from the district or the city. In that way, the pressure would be on the local district or agency instead of the Coastal Commission. - 2 - JOINT ADVISORY q^^5ITTEE MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 22, 1977 The foregoing is the basis for the conditions, which they have suggested be imposed along withour permit, and although they realize they are difficult, it was suggested that if we could think of alternative conditions that will essentially relieve the pressures on them, they would be open to them. Mr. Evans stated that there would be another meeting following the JAC meeting on November 22, 1977 and was in hopes that Mr. McGrath would go back to the Commission and its legal counsel with the possibility of attaining a more practical solution. Mr. Dominquez moved that Mayor Frazee, Chairman of the Local Commission, take the matter before the full State Commission, with Joint Advisory Committee Attorney Gann, to discuss the ram- ifications and impacts that this has on our proposal here at En- cina. Seconded by Mr. Zapotocky and carried. 5. CORRECTION OF ODOR VIOLATION Chairman Mahr asked Mr. Evans to report on the correction of odor violations. Mr. Evans reported that, since the last JAC meeting, we have re- ceived violations on November 4 and November 8 from the RWQCB. RWQCB has had people here every day and sometimes twice a day and has conducted interviews in the Alta Mira area to determine if they could detect odors from the plant site. We have also contacted people in those areas and have received several com- plaints that an odor is sometimes detectable in the area across the freeway when the Flood Control Channel creates a low point. Other than that, we are aware of no detectable odor. The temperature in Digester No. 1 has been reduced. Ron Waters and his operators are washing down the cover each morning and attempts are being made to keep it substantially clear of foam. A majority of the odor control facilities have been completed and the chlorination systems to various points are pretty well under control. On December 19, we are to appear before the RWQCB at which time staff will give a report on our accomplishments and if they feel that substantial progress has not been made, a hearing and pos- sible enforcement order can be expected. Graham Eraser of Brown and Caldwell stated that considerable work had been done on this problem in the Sacramento area and - 3 - JOINT ADVISORY I^IMITTEE MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 22, 1977 they would be willing to send us a report. 6. SUMMARY OF EVENTS/DIGESTER FOAMING PROBLEMS Chairman Mahr asked Mr. Evans for a report on the miniature di- gesters. Mr. Evans explained that on November 16, the experimentation was started. The digesters were seeded with sludge from San Elijo because their digesters -do not foam. It has been fed with our sludge for about 7 days and, after 22 days, all of the San Elijo sludge will have been drawn off and only Encina sludge will be left. Mr. Jack Filance, President of the Board of the Encinitas Sani- tary District, stated that his board had discussed the foaming problem and they feel uncomfortable about giving Brown and Cald- well Carte Blanche to design Phase III in view of their inabil- ' ity to solve problems on Phase II. Mr. Filance hoped that the JAC would give this view some consideration. Mr. Fraser expressed the concern of Brown and Caldwell and added that they have designed approximately 100 digesters of the float- ing cover type and have experienced this problem only here and in Sacramento. Another issue to which Brown and Caldwell has given some thought is the steam injection which may be a contri- buting factor to the foaming. Brown and Caldwell has been look- ing for a large capacity heat exchanger at a nominal cost to re- place the steam injection. A heat exchanger has been found at the Santa Rosa facility and Brown and Caldwell will provide draw- ings of sufficient quality so that the members of the Encina staff can install the equipment if they wish. Mr. Zapotocky suggested that no decision be made until the min- iature digesters experimentation is completed since the problem may not be one of design but one of unusual material. Mr. Dominquez asked what the grease concentration was in this plant as compared to other plants. Mr. Waters replied that it is basically no greater than in other plants. Mr. Evans con- tinued that experiments have been made with grease as a possi- ble foaming cause and grease has been hauled instead of putting it back into the digester. Mr. Evans felt that we should not depart from the stragedy being carried out in the miniature digesters and carry out the testing. - 4 - JOINT ADVISORY /^MITTEE MEETING MUNUTES - NOVEMBER 22, 1977 REPORTS - ROUTINE 7. OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE REPORT Chairman Mahr asked Mr. Evans to proceed with the Operations and Maintenance Report. Mr. Dominquez pointed out that the digester problems may be re- lated to septage dumping. He asked whether there was any way that we could check the loads since it was an isolated source and whe- ther the dumping times could be controlled. Mr. Evans said that, at present, everyone dumps either here or in San Diego because Escondido fees were high. At various times, the septage haulers have been part of the foaming investigation but it has best a random sampling and it would be difficult to run tests because there are so many things to test for. Mr. Schneider suggested to Chairman Mahr that he appoint Mr. Do- minquez to make a recommendation to this .committee as to what we do about the septage haulers at the next meeting. Mr. Dominquez agreed to do so only if the Joint Advisory Committee would take some action. Mr. Schneider moved that Mr. Dominquez make a recommendation at the December 21 meeting as to what action should be taken. Sec- onded by Mr. Stiles, the motion carried. 8. FLOW REPORT Mr. Evans reported that the meter is still not working correctly and has been in touch with McCrometer again. A 7% adjustment factor is being used on the total flow so the 9.6 million gallons per day average indicated as the total flow of the plant for Octo- ber is a figure which has been adjusted upward by 7%. The vanes, which could possibly be causing the problem as re- ported in the meeting of November 22, have not been cleaned out as yet because a sedimentation tank would have to be drained which might result in an odor violation. 9. SULFIDE CONDITION REPORT Chairman Mahr asked for a report on the Sulfide Conditions. Mr. Evans reported that there was nothing significant on the report. 10. EXPENDITURE REPORTS Mr. Evans pointed out that we're running about where we should be for the first three months of the fiscal year. - 5 - JOINT ADVISORY of^ITTEE MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 22, 1977 ACTION 11. SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SATELLITE TREATMENT PLANT EVALUATION Chairman Mahr asked for a report. Mr. Evans said that, at the October meeting, Chairman Stiles appointed a subcommittee to work with the various agencies and developers who were in the study stages for upstream satellite treatment plants. Since that time, several meetings have been attended with these agen- cies and developers and a lot of questions have come up over interpretation of JAC agreements. For instance,how is average dry weather flow defined, capacity of the plant at average dry weather flow, peak dry weather flow, what effect is the NPDS permit have in relation to the different flows, what the owner- ship of the ocean outfall and how does that affect us? Mr. Evans suggested the addition of two more members to be placed on this subcommittee; one from Carlsbad and one from Vista be- cause he felt that everybody needs to respond to these questions. He further requested permission of the Chairman, with concurrence of the Joint Advisory Committee, that this committee be allowed to consider some of the questions raised by the developers and come back to the JAC with a report or recommendations on how these things should be handled. At present, committee members include Chuck Oldsen, Jim Frandsen from Buena, Jim McKay from San Marcos, Mark Schneider from En- cinitas and Dick Hanson from Leucadia. Mr. Skotnicki suggested that Mr. Beckman represent Carlsbad and Mr. Zapotocky was suggested by Mr. Stiles to represent Vista. In lieu of setting meetings by phone, Mr. Evans further suggested that, since this meeting would be attended by members of the JAC staff, the re-rating would also be discussed. FURTHER ACTION 11. JAC SECRETARY The city of Carlsbad has employed Mary Taylor as JAC Secretary effective January 1, 1978. Until that time, she will work out of Volt Temporary Service due to some conflicts with her personal re- tirement plan and the plan required by the City of Carlsbad as a condition of employment. There being no further business, Chairman Mahr adjourned at 11:00 A.M. The next regularly scheduled meeting will be at 9:00 A.M. on Wednesday, - 6 - *Y /"y^MITTl fEl9HfR 22, JOINT ADVISORY/"ViMITTEE MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMtafR 22, 1977 January 25, 1977 in the Conference Room of the Encina Water Pollution Control Facility. Respectfully submitted; *<3> ULyhrv Mary t. Taylor 0 - 7 -