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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-08-16; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING : -TIME OF MEETING : LACE OF MEETING: cir: or CARLSBA~> PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSIONERS August 16, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers The Parks and Recreation Commission meeting was called to order in the City Council Chambers at 7:35 p.m. by Chairman Ron Schwab. ROLL CALL; Ron Schwab Juanita Rhodes Betty Wollrich Joe DeDiminicantanio APPROVAL OF MINUTES; Mrs.Wollrich requested minutes show she knowingly oversteped Roberts Rules of Order to nominate Ron Schwab for the charimanship. Mr. Schwab indicated he had also nominated Mrs. Wollrich for the chairmanship. She declined the nomination. Mrs. Wollrich requested minutes show she stated school had "use of" community tax. The minutes of the July 19, 1976 meeting were approved as amended. NEW BUSINESS; Duck Landing Buena Vista Lagoon — Eric Larson Mr.Johnson stated there were two problems to be discussed. One is to protect the ducks in the lagoon and the other is regarding the circulation around the lagoon. Mr. Larson stated Marron Road was going to be complet- ed and T in with Jefferson. Once this happens, traffic will be heavier causing an immediate impact on the duck landing. The Planning Commission sent a memo to the City Council stating their concern and requesting action be taken to protect the ducks be- fore the Plaza goes in. The Planning Commission is requesting the Parks and Recreation Commission submit a letter of support to the City Council. Betty Wollrich moved that the Parks and Recreation Commission concur with the Planning Commission's request. Juanita Rhodes seconded the motion. Ayes Agu'a Hedionda Specific Plan Mr. Johnson requested comments regarding the specific plan be submitted to him pxior to the public hearing. Efublic liearing is set for August 18, 1976. Mrs. Wollrich said the repQrt eliminated the public park which is already part of the Master Plan. Mr. Schwab suggested the plan be discussed at the next Commission meeting when all Commissioners were present. Mr. Johnson pointed out the first public hearing was scheduled for Wednesday, August 18. X X X X MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING : TIME OF MEETING ; ACE OF MEETING: CITT OF CARLSBAD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING August 16, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS « i . • « i Mrs. Wollrich asked if some of the Commissioners shou]|d attend the public hearing. Mr. Johnson said yes. Mr. Schwab and Mrs. Rhodes indicated they would attend. * Mr. Johnson suggested they meet with Mr. Agatep prior to the public hearing. OLD BUSINESS; Slides of Woodbine Bank Jon Hatch, Park Superintendent, showed the Commission slides of the bank at Woodbind Development on El Camino Real. He gave a brief summary regarding steps taken by the developer to comply with the conditions set for Woodbine. Mrs. Wollrich asked if in the future more native plants could be incorporated along El Camino. Mr. Hatch said yes, however, there should be the consideration of height. Mr. Hatch indicated area would not be accepted until developer met conditions. Useage of Community Center Mr.Johnson gave a brief summary of the contents of the proposed useage of the community center report. He indicated this to be a preliminary report, however final report is scheduled for the City Council on September 7, 1976. He indicated areas in rectory recommended for senior citizen exclusive use. Landscaping and irrigation system is included in proposal. Mr. DeDiminicantanio commented center should be as flexible as possible since facilities are limited. Mrs. Wollrich commented the Library didn't charge for the use of their conference room, why charges for use of center by residents. Mr. Johnson stated groups that will be using the facilities on permanently and semi-permanently basis are not included in fees. The schedule of fees shows amounts charged throughout San Diego County. Mr. DeDiminicantanio asked if these groups would be charged. Mr. Johnson said they may or may not be charged, however, those that are charged would not have the same rate. Mr. DeDiminicantanio asked who would determine which groups would fall in that catagory. Mr. Johnson stated the Commission would make recommendations. Mrs. Wollrich stated since the Library does not charge, the center should be under the same financial MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING : TIME OF MEETING : LACE OF MEETING: CITV OF CARLSBAD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSIONERS August 16, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers set up. Mr. DeDiminicantanio requested first come, first serve residents not be charged for use of center. Mrs. Wollrich suggested clean up fee for use of kitchen.% Mrs. Rhodes asked if the senior citizens would be charged $531 per month. Mr. Johnson stated he had not indicated charging them anything. He only showed what they were presently paying and what the charge could be if they paid the same amount per square foot of space. Mr. DeDiminicantanio moved'the use of the facility by community groups -be on a no fee basis. The motion died for lack of a second. Mr. Johnson asked who would pay. Mrs. Wollrich said the taxpayer. Mrs. Rhodes asked who would determine what groups wouldn't be charged. Mrs. Wollrich said it should be determined the same way the Library does -it. Mrs. Rhodes said the City would be dealing with different groups as compared with the Library. Mr. Johnson asked if residents should be charged for any activity. Mr. DeDiminicantanio said he felt it should be a free service. Mrs. Rhodes said that was unrealistic. Mr. DeDiminicantanio said City isn't using money adequately if there's a $7 million reserve. Mr. Johnson said it would cost $15,000 to $20,000 per year to subsidize women's exercise alone. Mr. DeDiminicantanio said the department didn't have to stop charging for participation in the recreation program just because it didn't charge for use of the center. Mrs. Wollrich .requested a work session regarding fees Mr. Schwab concurred. Mrs. Rhodes said that with the bed tax going into the general fund and not charging for the use of the center, the Parks and Recreation budget will increase. This brings about the possibility of other projects, such as the Carrillo Rancho, suffer- ing from lack of funds. MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING : JCIME OF MEETING : ACE OF MEETING; cirr OF CARLSBAD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING August 16, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS Mr. Schwab said he thought there should be a fee so that Mr. Johnson would have some measure of control. Mrs. Wollrich moved that a special workshop be held to set up recommendations for changes in the fee schedule.> Mrs. Rhodes seconded the motion. Ayes After some discussion, Wednesday, August 18, at 2:00 p.m. was set for the meeting. DIRECTOR REPORTS; Mr. Johnson commented on the Pepsi commercial recentl made at Holiday Park. He complimented his staff on their fine work. Mr. Johnson suggested a meeting in November or December to discuss recreation programs. COMMITTEE REPORTS; Mr. DeDiminicantanio has received a letter regarding the Women's Tennic Club and their use of the Laguna Riviera tennis courts. The general attitude is if these are public courts, they should be available to all citizens. Mr. Johnson said the answer to the problem is more courts. He suggested complaints be directed to his office. Mrs. Wollrich stated the Garden Club had interviewed a man who had grown up around the Magee House and was outlining a map of how the property look around 1910. This map will be given to Mr. Hatch. Mrs. Wollrich suggested some consideration be given to the useage of the Girls' Club in Holiday Park now that they have purchased other property. COUNCIL REPORTS; __••' Mr. Lewis-, stated the Council is considering a site on school property for the swimming pool. Mrs. Wollrich said their isn't enough room on school property for everything desired for the pool. Mr. DeDiminicantanio said their.is space available. Mr. Johnson said he understood there wasn't enough parking space for the present buildings. This is a problenl for the architect to solve. ADJOURNMENT; The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Schwab at 9:15 Respectfully submitted, Sharon C. Franklin^ Recording Secretary X X