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Home My WebLink About1976-10-18; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING ! -"~~ME OF MEETING \ OF MEETING! CIT" OF CARLSBAO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSIONERS October 18, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers The Parks and Recreation Commission meeting was called to order in the City Council Chambers at 7:30 p.m. by acting Chairwoman Betty Wollrich. ROLL CALL; . Betty Wollrich Juanita Rhodes Raul Tarango APPROVAL OF MINUTES: James Kinghorn Don Egermayer Joe DeDiminicantanio The minutes of the September 20, 1976, meeting were approved as mailed. NEW BUSINESS; A. Park Staff Promotions Jon Hatch introduced Bob Holdsworth, Turf Leadman Wayne Minor, Landscape Maintenance Leadman; and Jerry Rodriguez, Park Foreman to the Commissioner! Mr. Hatch indicated the three men had scored very high on the oral board. Mrs. Wollrich asked what does a leadman do. Mr. Hatch responsed a leadman is responsible for a crew of two or more Park Caretakers, does scheduling on a small scale and gives guidance on sprayings, mowing and prunning... Leadmen are responsible to the Park Foreman. The Foreman has twelve men under him. Mr. Johnson congratulated the young men on their promotions. The Commissioners concurred. B. Use of Alcoholic Beverages at Harding Street Community Center Mr. Johnson indicated the City Council has requested a recommendation from the Commission on the use of alcoholic beverages at the Communit Center. Enclosed in the packets is some back- ground information. Mrs.-Wollrich asked Mr. Johnson what his ex- periences had been with the use of alcohol on public property. Mr.-Johnson said as long as there was some control, he had not had any problems. Mrs. Wollrich said she did not approve of selling on the permises. Beer and wine should be suffi- cient, anything else could cause a problem. Mr. DeDiminicantanio disagreed, could be used .with control. Hard liquor Mr. Egermayer asked if a license would be needed for a private party who was not selling it. Mr. Johnson said no. Mr. Egermayer stated the same effect could be, derived from beer and wine as from hard liquor. MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING "~TME OF MEETING CIT" OF CARLSBO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING .COMMISSIONERS October 18, 1976 7:30 p.m. It is a question of judgement in use and control. After further discussion, Mr. Kinghorn moved that alcoholic beverages be allowed in controlled situations for use without sale. Mr. Egermayer seconded the motion. Aye s C. Proposition 2, SB 1321, Nesedly-Hart Bill Mr* Johnson reported that under Proposition 2 the County of San Diego would receive over $6 million for parks and recreation. Distribution will probably be based on per capita of each city He estimated $70,000 to $90,000 for the City if Proposition 2 is. approved. Mrs. Wollrich asked what happened to the money for Hosp Grove that was to be given to the City from another state bond issue. Mr. Johnson said the money is coming in the next fiscal year. Mr. Johnson said a problem with another bill, SB 174, is that it is geared toward cities with a population of 30,000 or more. However, there is still a chance of- getting some of the money. D. Landscaping of Fire Station #3 Mr. Johnson commended park staff for an excellent job on landscaping the new fire station. Mrs. Wollrich requested a letter be sent to the Council commending park, staff. Mr. Kinghorn added that a letter be sent to the men who were recently promoted for attending the • meeting and congratulating them on their promotioi The letter is to be signed by Mr. Johnson and Mr. Schwab. E. Sale of Greenwood Property Mr. Johnson stated the City Council has requested a recommendation from staff regarding the sale of G-]?eenwood property . Mr. Egermayer expressed the desire for the pro- perty to be retained until new facilities could be found for the Parks and Recreation Department. Then a nice, landscaped park be developed so the view of City Hall will not be blocked. Mrs. Wollrich pointed out the city has aquired park land at no cost to the city or city taxes and to maintain and keep in the city's posses- s'ion the Greenwood property more than offsets the money that would have been spent if park acreage had been purchased. Mrs. Wollrich also added the Torrey Pines on the property have historical value and should not be destroyed. Mr. Egermayer said he thought there was a state law prohibiting the destruction of Torrey Pines. ^ s . - ^\M x ji { x VI X a x • «0 x - •k.'\ r MINUTES OF; DATE OF MEETING "~TME OF MEETING CITW OF CARLSBAD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING :OMMISSIONERS October 18, 1976 7:30 p.m. • ijrtur* U.T ric.tiJ.iNia: uity councix unaiuDers Mr. Johnson said if the property were sold, all efforts would be made to save the Torrey Pines. He indicated he wanted the Commission to be aware that if the property is sold, Parks and Recreation will have to relocate. Mrs. Wollrich s^id there is no relationship between relocating the Parks and Recreation Depart ment and the property being retained as a green belt entrance into the City. It is part of the Civic Center that must be preserved in a way that will be an asset to the city. Mr. Kinghorn said it is evident how the Commission feels about retaining the property and feels the citizens of Carlsbad feel the same. Mr. Egermayer moved the City Council .retain the Greenwood Property in perpetuity. Mrs. Rhodes seconded the motion. Mr. Kinghorn added the citizens be polled regard- ing the sale of the property. Aye s ..... F. Commercial Use of Public Parks Mr. Johnson said a request f"or commercial use of a public park has been received* This requires Council action. The Council approved use of the park; however, the requestor was required to ob- tain a non-fee business license. Mr. Johnson asked for the Commissioner's views on commercial use of parks. Mrs. Rhodes, said she disapproved commercial use of the parks if this is how the individual makes their living. After some discussion Mr. Kinghorn moved that non- profit organizations be allowed to use the park for commercial purposes after obtaining a non-fee business license; however, private parties and profit organizations be required to obtain a fee business license. -- *-«. Mrs. Rhodes seconded the motion. Ayes ..... OLD BUSINESS: A. League of California Cities 78th Annual Conference Mr. Johnson indicated there was one meeting being held the following day that might be .of interest to the Commissioners. He cannot attend this meeting. "~ The State Parks and Recreation Conference will be held in Anaheim from February 26, to March 1, 1977. He will want some Commissioners to attend. Mr. Johnson suggested a joint meeting of Parks and Recreation Commissions in San Diego Country within the next three months. ^i • 1 X X n x X M x M5H V x X > 1VV x • L i x < MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING : OF MEETING ; OF MEETING: CIT7 OF CARLSBO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING October 18, 1976 7:30 p.m. City Council Chambers -COMMISSIONERS Mr. Johnson asked what cities should be involved. Mr. Tarango recommended the City of Escondido. Mr. Kinghorn suggested north county cities. Mrs. Wollrich suggested meeting at Rancho Carlsbad with Mr. Schwab*1 s approval. November 20, 1976, was the date agreed upon for the workshop. Mr. Johnson reminded the Commissioner's the de- dication of Car Country Park is November 7, 1976, at 2:00 p.m. B. Harding^ Street Community Center Mr.Johnson said the keys to the property have been.given to him. The City is currently working on plans to bring the buildings to code. DIRECTOR REPORTS Kammayer Lynch and Partners is working on plans for the pool at the site on hig'h school property. Mrs. Wollrich asked if the plans would go to Council or Parks and Recreation Commission. Mr. Johnson said they would probably go to Council or a joint meeting. Mr. Kinghorn said on November 21, there.will be a cit wide swap meet in the downtown area. He suggested Parks and Recreation purchase a lot for some public relations. Mr. Tarango asked who is responsible for cleaning around Buena Vista Lagoon. Mr. Johnson said the city is responsible. Mr. Kinghorn said his son, Scott, had contacted Jon Hatch seeking a scout project. The end result was the "C" at Maxton-Brown Extension. Mrs. Wollrich asked that a letter of appreciation be sent to Scott Kinghorn and a copy enclosed in the Council packets. Mr. Chuck Hale, a Carlsbad resident, expressed disapproval of the Council's position regarding the Public Works Act. He feels that'since it is tax- payers money, the city should get a fair share. Mrs. Wollrich thank Mr. Hale for his comments. Mr. Johnson said the City Council is seeking funds from the Public Works- Act. ADJOURNMENT; The meeting was adjourned by acting Chairwoman Betty Wollrich at 9:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, - . ^ ron C. Franklin, Recording Secretary