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MEETING OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
TIME OF MEETING:
PLACE OF MEETING:
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
October 15, 1984
5:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
The meeting was called to order by Chairman
Wright at 5:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present - Chairman Wright, Coimiissioners
Comnissioners Donovan, Popovich,
Dahlquist, Morrison and Regan.
Commissioner Conti arrived at
5:13 p.m.
Absent - None.
Dave Bradstreet, Director of
Parks and Recreation
INTRODUCTION OF NEW COMMISSIONER;
Chairman Wright introduced the new Conmissioner,
Marjorie Morrison.
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM;
There was no one present for the open forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
The Minutes of the September 17, 1984, meeting
were approved as amended by Commissioner Dahlquist
relating to the Cadencia Playfield and the
statement: "The question was raised as to how
this Commission overruled the Council, and the
residents want this area to revert back to a
passive area." Commissioner Dahlquist said the
Council had voted for a playing field; therefore
the Commission had not overruled the Council.
However, later Dave Bradstreet explained the
Minutes of the Council meeting to interpret the
Council did not intend this to be used as the
Commission has now designated.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA;
Chairman Wright announced Paddle Tennis was an
old item and was to be moved from 7A to A1.
Item D, City/District Joint Meeting, would be
changed to Committee Reports.
11A would be Park Planning Update and 11B would
be Hoover Stret Access Update.
The Commission approved the agenda as amended:
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS;
A1. Paddle Tennis.
Dave Bradstreet reported he had a copy of the
rules and the court layout for paddle tennis,
which he showed the Commissioners. He reported a
gentleman from Los Angeles had moved into this
area and feels there is sufficient interest in
paddle tennis to establish a court. The
Commission had directed staff to study this, and
there are no courts in San Diego County. Staff
decided to wait until another park was developed,
but the gentleman convinced Mr. Bradstreet to make
one court on the Monroe courts adjacent to the
swimming pool. Mr. Bradstreet stated he agreed to
this with the concurrence of this Commission.
There is one drawback—the court may revert back
to the school sometime later. Mr. Bradstreet
explained to the Commission the paddles are like a
ping pong paddle, only larger with holes in them.
Mr. James Courtney, Carlsbad Soccer Club, stated a
proposal will be coming before this Commission for
a place for indoor soccer, and need an off-the-
wall soccer court, which could become a source of
income for Parks.
Chairman Wright stated the Commission could table
this paddle tennis request until the soccer
request is presesnted, or could make a temporary
paddle tennis court until the other proposal is
presented. Mr. Courtney said it would be the next
meeting when the soccer request is presented.
Commission tabled the paddle tennis request until
the speed soccer proposal is received.
The request was made for costs to be determined
for converting the tennis court.
A. Cadencia Park Use Issue
Chairman Wright read from the memo to the
Assistant City Manager from the Parks and
Recreation Director dated October 4, 1984, and
also read the compromise reached at the end of
that memo.
Chairman Wright made a motion to approve the
agreement contained in the October 4, 1984, memo,
as listed on pages A22 and A23, and direct staff
to refrain from scheduling any active play on that
field after December 15, 1984. Commissioner Conti
seconded the notion.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Donovan read from page A3, Section 4,
regarding the use of the lots. She stated thre is
a need for an active park there as it is the only
City-owned park site in south Carlsbad. She would
like to have it an active area, but did mention
her concern with the portable potty. She felt
perhaps a permanent structure should be built with
landscaping around it. Commissioner Donovan felt
toilet facilities should be provided, since there
is a drinking fountain.
In discussion, the Commissioners said the field was
not designated passive or practice only and they
would not have had to designate it as a legal field
last February.
Dave Bradstreet reported there was a lot of
discussion at the Council meeting and Council
Member Lewis had said it could be a practice field
only; the residents thought it was to be a practice
field only, and staff thought it was to be practice
only. It is a matter of interpreting what was said
at the 1981 Council meeting.
The Commission again discussed the need for the
field to be a legal field and questioned where the
games would be scheduled if this field were denied
them. Dave Bradstreet said he did not know whether
or not a field would be available for play, if this
field were elminiated.
In answer to query about how many people are
objecting to this park, Chairman Wright stated at
the September 29 meeting, there were 15 residents
present—two streets are impacted.
Mr. Andy Anderson, representing himself and five
other homeowners, addressed the Commission,
requesting the port-a-potty be removed.
A discussion followed, with the homeowners saying
the present use is in violation of the code, but
they were willing to allow the La Costa Youth
Organization to finish out this season, with the
area to be returned to passive use in the future.
It was then brought up that one of the
Commissioners had children playing in that league
and should not vote to avoid a conflict of
interest. Chairman Wright answered that he had
discussed this with the City Attorney and there was
no conflict of interest when a non-profit
organization has a member who is sitting on a
Commission. He said the City Attorney recommended
that Member not abstain from voting.
Dave Bradstreet referred to pages A1, A2, A3, A4
and A8 and felt the final map is the one to hold to
as to what was stated as far as open space and
parks. The previous documents said open space, but
the final map takes precedence.
The neighbors did not complain earlier in the year
when the children were playing ball—it is the
soccer that creates the high noise level.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
Mr. Joe Borak, 7247 Carpa Court, said they had not
complained, but now the noise is impossible and has
been drawn out later so the noise goes on all day.
Mr. Bob Wetherill, 3319 Cadencia, stated most of
the noise comes from the parents.
Mr. Peter Rosenburg, 7249 Carpa Court, who lives
behind the field, said the noise is tolerable
during the week, but Saturday is unbearable.
Chairman Wright said the September 29 meeting was
there at the site from 8:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
Then the schedule was changed to spread the games
out more, but that is not working. The residents
would rather they go back to the original
schedule, making the afternoon fairly quiet.
Mike Glass, La Costa Youth Board Member, spoke,
saying they don't want to damage the quality of
life for the residents. As a non-profit
organization, they want to serve the children, and
the children using this park are the youngest
group. They understood Council Member Lewis did
not want adult games there—no hardball. The
girls' softball league was from April to June, and
they were gone by 11:00 a.m. on Saturday mornings.
The soccer was scheduled to be finished by noon
from September 10 to December 2. The field is
used less than five months a year for a half a day
a week for game purposes. The alternative of
moving to El Fuerte can't happen until 1986. This
could eliminate the program for the small children.
The use of church fields was mentioned, but they
are in poor repair, and cannot be used for soccer.
Mr. Carl Hill, 3317 Cadencia, asked who was
scheduled from noon until 4:30 p.m. and Dave
Bradstret said no one. Colonel Anderson said the
noise level started at 7:45 a.m., and under the old
schedule terminated at 1:00 p.m. With the changed
schedule, the noise now goes to 3:00 p.m.
At this point, Chairman Wright restated his motion
to approve the agreement contained in the October
4, 1984, memo, as listed on pages A22 and A23, and
direct staff to refrain from scheduling any active
play on that field after December 15, 1984.
Chairman Wright announced the Commission
now recommended Cadencia Park remain an active
playing field, which was their original
recommendation on September 13.
Commissioner Regan made a motion to have the
Traffic Safety Commission investigate traffic and
parking problems at Cadencia Park. Chairman
Wright stated that could not be done.
Commissioner Regan moved the Commission recommend
to the City Council that they investigate parking
and traffic problems along Cadencia and Carpa if
Cadencia is to remain an active playing field.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
Coimrissioner Donovan stated she would like to have
a permanent structure with landscaping to take the
place of the port-a-potty. She recommended staff
investigate something less offensive than the
present arrangement.
Commissioner Dahlquist stated if this were
temporary, then nothing should be added.
In answer to query, Dave Bradstreet stated the
toilet is located behind the residences at the
present time, and there is an odor as well as
being unsightly. He added they have recommended
re-locating it.
Commissioner Donovan stated she wanted the port-a-
potty there all week and not just on Saturday.
Mr. Bradstreet answered that staff would look into
that.
The comment was made that the parents had
requested the port-a-potty.
Commissioner Dahlquist stated she wanted the port-
a-potty available at the field only on Saturdays.
Motion was made to have a port-a-potty available
at Cadencia Field on Saturdays only.
Carol Hill stated there was a safety problem in
the park—the police have been called, but
nothing has been done.
Robert King, 3313 Cadencia, noted there were
eleven homeowners represented at the meeting.
B. Stagecoach Park
Dave Bradstreet gave the report on this item,
stating Daon was going to build a drainage
channel in the riparian area, which was unusable
land. Since then staff prepared an EIR on there
and gave to the Planning Deparmtnent. The
racquet club had come up with an alternative
which would be addressed at Council October 16.
There are four alternatives: leave it as it is;
or crib the wall. Some would be on the
developer's property and some on the City.
They agreed to extend an acre of land on the
other end.
Commissioner Conti stated Daon is not the
builder and he referred to the letter from Ron
Beckman, which is part of the minutes, and he
referred specifically to the grading permit
issued for the purpose of clearing the right of
way for the installation of the water line.
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This is not to be the final grade of the
proposed street, so this was done for their own
purpose and not at the City's request. He
objected to Daon saying they were conplying with
the City's request to provide access.
Commissioner Conti felt these were things to
fulfill the purpose of the builder and not the
City.
The Commission discussed where the park stands
now, and Dave Bradstreet answered the EIR would
take six months, but that would not delay the
schedule for the park.
In answer to a question as to how the traffic
situation on Rancho Santa Fe had been addressed,
Mr. Bradstreet answered he was concerned about
that. Rancho Santa Fe will be improved about when
the park is ready, and will make a recommendation
to the City Council to be aware of that. Mr.
Bradstreet added the City will own 17 acres now
and can grade that dirt on to the other parcel,
but it will be three years before the park is
ready to be developed. Commissioner Conti stated
a great deal of money has gone elsewhere. The
recommendation should be to approve the plan
before the Commission to grade upon the property
and the drain.
Frank Aleshire, City Manager, stated he was an ex-
officio member of this Commission and stated the
City should have a plan for the park and tell the
developer how to fit into the park. The park is
needed, and the Commission will need to talk about
the riparian area and where the drain will go. Mr.
Aleshire stated that the planning should be done
within six months. He suggested getting planning
money into the budget and get that approved. The
Council will have to deal with this and there will
be no decision tomorrow.
Commissioner Conti asked whether the Commission has
to anticipate the requirements necessary for the
City to put together the complete package of
building a park prior to someone moving on the
park, and Mr. Aleshire answered that the
development is moving too fast and he suggested
the planning be done now. If the grading plan
gets completed and there are bulldozers there,
perhaps the City could bargain with the
developers.
Dave Bradstreet stated he felt the City has a good
park planning process and know what the needs of
the community are; there are public facility fees
amd park-in-lieu fees. These are just getting
started, and now the Department is being asked to
accelerate the programs.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Donovan asked for turnkey park update
to be placed on the next agenda.
C. Mayor Casler Summer Report
Chairman Wright announced there was just a
misunderstanding on lot 290.
E. Fuerte Park/School Project
Dave Bradstreet gave an update on this item.
NEW BUSINESS;
B. Committee Assignments
Park Site and Facility Planning
Dahlquist
Conti
Popovich
Regan
Update City-Wide Development Plan
Popovich
Wright
Recreational/Leisure Services
Conti
Wright
Dahlquist
Budget
Popovich
Regan
School District Liaison
Wright
Popovich
Donovan
Regan
Special Programs/Projects
Dahlquist
Popovich
Street Tree & Signage Program
Regan
Donovan
Community Volunteer Program
Donovan
Chairman Wright explained that the Committees meet
as needed and can meet first and bring a proposal
to the Commission.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
COMMITTEE REPORT;
A. Joint City/District Meeting - Pqpovich
Commissioner Popovich reported on this meeting and
said the most important thing discussed was the
use of the 42 acre-park site and said the next
meeting would be the 25th.
Dave Bradstreet put up a map saying the wrong site
had been indicated before. The correct site is
the slope area, which would take a lot of
grading. Mr. Bradstreet added the Mayor asked the
Board Members to ask to commit $62,000. The
school district has plans for Buena Vista. He
stated that turfing might not be to Parks &
Recreation's best interest. Mr. Courtney said
they could not skin the infields, and if they
can't be skinned, then Mr. Bradstreet said they
did not want to play on them. Therefore, the
$62,000 is not needed.
Commissioner Dahlquist stated that at Jefferson,
during school hours they get the fields, and after
school the City decides, and Mr. Bradstreet added
the first request gets it. He said there was no
program at the present time. Comment was made
that KARA should be made aware of that.
Park Planning Update
Dave Bradstreet referred to the Agenda Bill
included in the packet, which would go to Council
Otober 16. He asked for Commission support.
Mr. Aleshire commented that this $25,000 request
was indicating that money is needed now to
expedite the park development program. He also
stated he felt this Commission needed a meeting to
discuss money, as several incorrect statements had
been made at this meeting. He said that the City
could borrow from other funds to do the programs
that must be done.
Commission moved to support the Park Development
Program Request for Appropriation for Advance
Planning Assistance as outlined in the Agenda Bill
in the packet.
Hoover Street
Dave Bradstreet reported that the pile of dirt at
the end of Hoover Street will be removed and the
posts will be installed. Originally, he had been
told that could not be done.
Commissioner Dahlquist asked for a letter to be
written to Lynn Chase congratulatina v««* on her
recent award.
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October 15, 1984 COMMISSIONERS
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper notion, the meeting of October 15, 1984,
was adjourned at 8:16 p.m.
The next meeting will be November 19, 1984, at City
Hall.
Respectfully tted,
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
From the Carlsbad Journal
Wednesday, July 25, 1984
APPROACH TO SPEED PARKS DEVELOPMENT
NOT SUITABLE FOR CARLSBAD, SAYS ALESHIRE
Despite its comprehensive general plan and its philosphy (sic) that
developers should pay for new public facilities, the city of Carlsbad
has a shortage of parks. The reason is that once development fees
have been collected, parks must be planned and funding approved before
construction can begin.
So, the construction of new parks always lags a few years behind increasing
demand from new residents. Although the City Council funded the construction
of several new facilities at its meeting Tuesday night, these parks
are not expected to be completed for another two or three years.
However, a San Diego-based land planner says he knows a way to alleviate
the problem. The idea is to have developers build "turnkey" parks,
in lieu of paying development fees, at the same time they build their
housing projects. The parks would then be turned over to the city,
guaranteeing that park facilities would keep pace with the rising popula-
tion.
"It's a process we've been discussing in park master planning for years,"
said Nick DeLorenzo, a land planner and development consultant who has
supervised the building of turnkey parks in San Diego and Chula Vista.
"It has worked very well," DeLorenzo said. "It has gotten parks installed
much sooner than they would have otherwise."
DeLorenzo said a turnkey approach is attractive to developers because
it enables them to guarantee prospective homebuyers that there will
be a park in or near their subdivisions.
"It really provides a 'win-win' situation between the city, the developer
and the ultimate residents of the area," he said. The city gets its
projects built quicker, the developer gets it put in his community
by doing the building, and the residents get a park much sooner than
they would have otherwise."
But while the turnkey approach may seem the ideal solution, for Carlsbad's
park shortage, City Manager Frank Alesire said it is not compatible
with the city's park development plan.
"We haven't really seriously considered it because of the character
of our parks," Aleshire said. "The parks we're developing are big
parks—25 acres or more—and the cost is too great for any one developer."
Aleshire said the city is concentraitng (sic) on larger parks because
of the popularity of youth sports and the current trend toward physical
fitness.
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From the Carlsbad Journal
Wednesday, July 25, 1984
Page 3
However, James Courtney, chairman of the fields committee for the Carlsbad
Athletics and Recreation Association, said the turnkey idea should
be given a better chance.
"It's a great concept; I'm all for it," Courtney said. "If you give
the land to the city, by the time the city's done playing with the
land and playing with the money, you get about 10 cents on the dollar.
The bureaucratic process eats it up."
Courtney said he (sic) group worked out a preliminary turnkey agreement
with a local developer only to have the city nix the poposal (sic).
Although he said he is pleased with the commitment the city has shown
through its plans for the Calavera Hills Community Park and other facil-
ities, Courtney said he would like to see the city become even more
active in the park issue, perhaps by experimenting with concepts such
as the turnkey approach.
"They tend to study everything until it dies," he said. "I say, quit
studying and start building. We need the fields now, not five years
from now."
NOVEMBER 9, 1984
TO: MARY CASLER, Mayor
FRANK ALESHIRE, City Manager
FRANK MANNEN, Assistant City Manager
MARTY ORENYAK, Director of Building/Planning
RON BECKMAN, City Engineer
JIM THOMPSON, Fire
MIKE HOLZMILLER, LUP Manager
CLIFF LANGE, Library Director
t^AVE BRADSTREET, Parks & Recreation Director
JERRY PIETI, Personnel Director
VINCE JIMNO, Police Chief
CHRIS SALOMONE, Redevelopment Manager
ROGER GREER, Utilities Director
BILL MEADOWS, General Manager, CRMWD
FROM: James C. Hagaman, Policy Development Manager
The City Manager has directed Research/Analysis Group
staff to provide him with an update on the status of
the 1984 City Council Goals and Objectives, and has
requested that this information be compiled as soon
as possible.
You were designated as the chief staff person respon-
sible for those objectives highlighted on the attach-
ment (s) to this memo.
I would appreciate a written status on these items by
November 19, 1984. If you have any questions, please
contact Gary Wayne at extension 5610.
Thanks for your cooperation.
JAMES C. HAGAMAN
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Parks & Recreation Commission
"The Green Sheet"
NOVEMBER 19, 1984
The Request for Preposals have been sent out to 70 Architectural firms to prepare
the plans and specifications for Calavera Hills Community Park - Phase I. The
proposals must be returned to the Purchasing Department by November 16, 1984.
Pine Field will be closed from December 23 to January 14 to install new
irrigation.
The 3 on 3 Men's Basketball Tournament will be held on December 8 and 9 at the
Carlsbad Girl's & Boy's Club. The participants will consist of teams from all
over San Diego County.
The Request for Proposals have also been distributed for the renovation of the
restrooms at Chase Field. The proposals must be submitted by November 21.
The Recreation Division will conduct a Basketball Skills Clinic on December 8
and 15 at Carlsbad High School. The instructor will be our own Commissioner
Scott Wright. We appreciate Scott's assistance.
The Awards & Installation Banquet of the California Parks and Recreation Society
District XII will be held at Tom Horn's Restaurant in San Diego on Wednesday,
December 5, 1984. Call Val at the main office if you plan to attend. It will
be a very worthwhile evening.
A local church will be providing volunteers to work on the City's Anti-Graffiti
program on Saturday, November 17. Doug Duncanson, the Parks Superintendent, will
coordinate the project.
On behalf of the Parks and Recreation Department, have a happy and safe
Thanksgiving.
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Meeting of:
Time of Meeting:
Date of Meeting:
Place of Meeting:
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
3:00 p.m.
November 5, 1984
City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER;
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Punches at
3:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
Present: Chairman Punches, Commissioners
Wood and Melideo. Commissioner
O'Day arrived at 3:22 p.m.
Absent: Commissioner Harkins.
Staff Members present:
Steve Tisdale, Project Manager
Police Chief Jimno
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the October 1, 1984, Meeting were
approved as presented.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS;
2. Pedestrian Appraisal Program
Steve Tisdale reported on this item, referring to the
copy of the report each Commissioner had in hand.
(Minutes Clerek did not have a copy). He read through
the report with the Commission and summarized the report,
saying that public education needs more attention, and
although the pedestrian injuries increased, Carlsbad
still compares favorably with areas of a similar size.
Mr. Tisdale concluded, saying that overall the City did
better than last year. He asked the Commissioners to
review the report and bring comments to the next meeting.
Mr. Tisdale also reported that there will be a full-time
Traffic Engineer in the near future, and that will be the
first time the City will have such an employee.
REPORT ON ACTION REQUESTED AT PREVIOUS MEETING;
Steve Tisdale reported on the actions taken since the
last meeting, saying that all actions have either been
completed or workorders have been issued for them.
Mr. Tisdale also reported that raised pavement markers
have been installed in several areas of the City.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
1. San Diego Smog and Traffic.
Benjamin E. Smith.
A presentation by
Mr. Smith read from the copy of his summary report dated
November 5, 1984, a copy of which is part of the record.
Mr. Smith stated that California is now last as far as
the amount per capita income that is spent on roads.
Years ago California was first, as all finances raised
from transportation were put back into transportation.
Attachment 1
Punches
Wood
Melideo
MINUTED
November 5, 1984 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS
Ten or twelve years ago legislation was passed allowing
transportation funds to be used for general purposes.
This will result in the estimated traffic and
transportation oosts as listed on the final page of Mr.
Smith's report.
Mr. Smith commented that in five years, he predicts the
driving time will be one half hour more between Carlsbad
and San Diego, due to the congestion on the highway.
Mr. Smith felt that with only El Camino Real north and
south and Palomar Airport Road east and west, that
Carlsbad will have a traffic problem.
Chairman Punches reported the Circulation Element had
been revised and every time arterials are planned, there
is opposition from the public.
Mr. Smith suggested that all intersections with El Camino
Real and Palomar Airport Road should be through traffic,
with underpasses and overpasses.
There was a short discussion about the different streets
that are planned for development throughout the City.
ACTION ITEMS:
Election of Officers
Chairman Punches nominated Commissioner Wood as new
Chairman for the Traffic Safety Commission. Commissioner
Melideo seconded the nomination and the vote was
unanimous.
Commissioner Wood nominated Commissioner O'Day as vice-
chairman, with Chairman Punches seconding the nomination.
The vote was unanimous.
1. Edinburgh & Glasgow - Request for either a four-way
stop or larger stop signs.
The Commissioners had all visited the site and were there
in the afternoon from 3:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.
Mr. Markham re-stated his request as contained in his
original letter. Chairman Punches stated he agreed with
Marty Bouman's memorandum dated November 5, 1984.
Mr. David Stoffel, 4705 Edinburgh, stated he was shocked
at the recommendation to replace the stop sign with a
yield sign. He commented he had written to the
newspapers and Council Members, and if this matter goes
to the Council, he will petition against this
recommendation. His main reason was safety and he felt
the traffic study has flaws. Mr. Stoffel said this area
is in a state of flux and he felt a yield sign would
create extreme danger for anyone trying to walk across
that intersection.
Chairman Punches reminded the gentlemen that the
violators were the people living in that area, and
perhaps the local residents there should do some
educating about the stop signs.
MINUTE
November 5, 1984 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS
Comnissioner O'Day stated larger signs would not help.
He suggested the Cotnnission could do nothing; install a
four-way stop (which does not meet the warrants);
install the yield sign, or make a three-way stop.
Commissioner Melideo stated she is opposed to yield signs
in residential areas. She recommended a three-way stop.
The Commission discussed different solutions for this
corner and Steve Tisdale read staff's recommendation
changing the stop sign on the north leg to a yield sign
and installing a stop sign on the east leg.
Steve Tisdale suggested a letter be written to the
homeowners association requesting the people bo be
careful and obey the law.
Police Chief Jimno stated there are five men on the
Police force who deal with traffic, and the volume at
this intersection is fairly small. The violators are the
neighbors—it is a behavioral problem.
Mr. Stoffel asked for an answer about the three stop
signs. He acknowledged the traffic patterns will be
changing as more homes are built. He stated he would
rather see the intersection as it is now and come back
when the traffic patterns are more set. He felt a yield
sign would create problems.
Mr. Markham asked for a warning sign of "stop sign ahead"
and staff answered those are used only where there is a
sight distance problem. There is a bar and the word
"stop" on the pavement.
Commission voted to leave this intersection as it is at
the present time, with Glasgow stopping for Edinburgh.
Commissioner Melideo made a notion to study this
intersection with a new traffic study now, and patrol the
intersection, and bring this matter back before the
Commission for a possibility of other controls.
Comnissioner O'Day seconded this motion.
2. Tamarack & Kirkwall - Request for a right turn only
lane.
Chairman Punches read the discussion on this item. Mr.
Stoffel suggested some of the slope could be cut down
to help the visibility at the corner. The Commissioners
stated they had viewed this corner, and the bushes needed
to be trimmed—one bush particularly. Steve Tisdale
stated the City would trim the bushes.
Commission approved staff recommendation of no change at
this intersection at the present time, denying the
request for a right-turn only lane on Tamarack.
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper notion, the meeting of November 5, 1984, was
adjourned at 4:31 p.m.
Respectfully submitted^
iett
Minutes Clerk
Punches
Wood
Melideo
O'Day
Punches
Wood
Melideo
O'Day
Punches
Wood
Melideo
O'Day
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CARA MINUTES
Meeting of October 24, 1984
The meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m. by Greg Nelson, President.
Those members present were: Shirley Dahlquist, Ramona Finnila, Mike
Peterson, Bill Price, Ken Price, and John Strayer.
The previous month's minutes were approved.
Of Special Note to Members!
Nominations for president, finance manager, vice chairman, and secretary
will be accepted at this month's meeting. If you are unable to attend
and want to nominate someone, call Ramona (729-6587).
CARA is looking for citizen/business contributions for the new Kelly School
backstop. Any help would be appreciated! Call Greg at (729-4382).
Report 1. Field Scheduling
All sports organizations should be aware that applications for fields need
to be in to Parks and Recreation 90 days prior to your season's beginning.
Don't wait!
Nelson reported the School District will not skin the school fields per se,
but will skin around the bases. After some discussion, it was decided for
safety's sake not to request skinning around the bases. Nelson will contact
the school district and the city.
Report 2. Koll Property
Ken Price reported Parks and Recreation will check into renewing the lease
option on the Koll property off El Camino Real. He will also check to see
if we can use this property for adult use rather than in conjunction with
youth use. Nelson will check on getting backstops.
Report 3. General Land Use Plan
The general plan for Carlsbad is 10 years old. Our consensus is that it
should be reviewed by CARA sub-committee. Finnila will be on the committee
and will secure the section on Parks and Recreation development. Any
interested members who wish to join this committee should notify Nelson.
Report 4. Community Center
Residential complaints from Terramar citizens were acknowledged concerning the
Cannon Lake Community Center. Such criticism is expected no matter where the
center will eventually be located.
Attachment 2
CARA Minutes
October 24, 1984
Page 2
Dahlquist proposed a new location for the center on the City-owned
property near Monroe and Elm, the Los Arboles area. A CARA consensus
thought it a good idea that should be looked into.
Report 5. La Costa/South Carlsbad
Strayer reported Cadencia field complaints. Neighbors are complaining
about 8:00 a.m. field use and unsightly porta potties. It was suggested
that scheduling begin later in the day.
Hopefully, Stagecoach Park will be completed at the end of 1986 (Calavera
in the end of 1985). There are still problems to be worked out. This
area of the city absolutely needs fields soon.
In other business: An updated membership list will be compiled after
the new officers are elected.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, „
Ramona Finnila
Secretary
NEXT MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 5:00 PM HARDING CENTER
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NOVEMBER 1, 1984
TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
FROM: Mayor Casler
YOUR SUMMARY REPORT FROM 10-15-84
1. Paddle Tennis
My education on paddle tennis and speed-soccer has been
sadly neglected so I cannot comment on either and will
wait for your November meeting to hear your recommendation.
I'll find out more about the two before then.
2. Cadencia Park Use
I congratulate you for making a hard decision in the
face of protests. That part of the job isn't any fun, is
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3. Park Planning Update
The Council also approved a $25,000 funding for a park
consultant.
4. Congratulations to Scott for being named Director of
Athletics at Carlsbad High School.
MARY CASM2R
Mayor
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Attachment 4
Weekly Report - November 30, 1984
CITY MANAGER'S NEWSLETTER
Calendar:
— Mon., Dec. 3, 3:00 PM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Council Chambers
— Tues., Dec. 4, 6:00 PM COUNCIL MEETING
Council Chambers
~ Wed., Dec. 5, 5-7 PM VILLAGER
Nielsen Realty, 444 Elm
— Mon., Dec. 10, 6:00 PM HISTORICAL SITE PRESERVATION
COMMITTEE, Council Chambers
WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE cost has been increased from $123-, 000
in 1981 to $228,000 in 1984 due mainly to some major disability
payments to police and firemen.
LIABILITY INSURANCE cost Carlsbad $276,000 in 1981. Our costs
since becoming self-insured (in 1982) have been: $79,000 in
1982, $97,000 in 1983, and $232,000 in 1984. In three years
we have saved over $400,000 by self-insuring.
CARLSBAD growth rate from 1970 to 1980 was 14% per yearl From
1980-1984 the annual rate was 4%.
Median Carlsbad San Diego
Age 32 29
Income $22,354 $17,107
BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT I (Shakespeare)
TRAFFIC SIGNAL at RANCHO SANTA FE ROAD and LA COSTA AVENUE put
into operation on Wed., Nov. 28.
PUBLIC HEARING scheduled Tues. night to consider establishment of
Hospital Overlay Zone to permit development of hospital in City.
SEASCAPE APT". PROJECT heard on Nov. 20 continued to Tues. night.
Applicant proposing to reduce density. Staff will make report
at meeting.
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION recommends NO PARKING ZONE on Alga Road
between Alicante and El Camino Real. Parking would be allowed in
front of homes on south side of Alga. Council action Tues. night.
SHOULD AUTO DEALERSHIPS be allowed in commercial area on west side
of 1-5 north of Poinsettia Lane? Council will be asked Tues. if
auto dealerships are "other commercial uses" under specific plan
for area.
HOLIDAY decorations will go up this week in the downtown area as
a joint effort between City, Chamber of Commerce, and the Down-
town Merchants' Association.
SANTA CLAUS will be arriving (either by helicopter or fire engine)
at the State and Grand intersection on Dec. 15, at noon. St. Patrick's
choir will also be performing.
COASTAL CONSERVANCY will hold an informal meeting to review status
of the Buena Vista Creek Study on Wed., Dec. 5, 1:30 PM, City of
Vista Fire Station No. 1, Conference Room, 175 N. Melrose, Vista.
CARLSBAD CHRISTMAS BUREAU donations may be sent to 557 Beech St.,
Carlsbad. The Bureau is in its 14th year of operation. There are
5 ways to donate: Cash, canned goods, clean clothing, toys, Adopt
a Family. Call Chamber of Commerce with questions, 729-5924.
LEAGUE OF CALIF. CITIES Employee Relations Institute, Jan. 23-24,
1985, Hyatt Regency, Oakland. Council Members interested in going,
let Lois know.
NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS INSTITUTE in Irvine, Jan. 16-17. Check with Lois.
SAN DIEGO POLICY MAKERS SEMINAR, Lake San Marcos, Jan. 18, 19,
NEW TELEPHONE SYSTEM bidders' conference on Nov. 26 was attended
by 16 firms. Bid opening scheduled Dec. 17.
REGISTRAR OF VOTERS' OFFICE will be conducting recount of votes
cast for City Council members at the Municipal Election. Recount
will commence Mon., Dec. 3, at Registrar's office.
TRI-CITY TRAUMA CENTER on Bd. of Supv. agenda Dec 4. Council Member
Chick and City Manager will attend.
WATER RECLAMATION ASSN. Christmas Thurs., Dec. 9, 9AM, Olympis Hotel.
YOU GROW UP THE DAY YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST REAL LAUGH - AT YOURSELF.
ANNUAL AUCTION of bicycles and surplus property held by the City on
Nov. 17 resulted in 109 people registering to bid and 258 items
were sold for a total of $4,743.42.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL at El Camino Real and Kelly Dr. meets warrants.
City Engineer will ask Council for design money to get started
on the $90,000 unbudgeted project.
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Weekly Report - November 16, 1984
CITY MANAGER'S NEWSLETTER
Calendar:
— Mon., Nov. 19, 5:00 PM PARKS and RECREATION COMMISSION
Council Chambers
— Mon., Nov. 19, 6:00 PM HISTORICAL SITE PRESERVATION
COMMITTEE - Council Conf.. .Room
— Tues., Nov. 20, 6:00 PM COUNCIL MEETING
Council Chambers
—• Thurs., Fri., Nov. 22, 23 THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY
City Hall closed
— Mon., Nov. 26, 5:00 PM HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Council Chambers
— Tues., Nov. 27, 6:00 PM - COUNCIL MEETING
Council Chambers
STREET LIGHTS in the City number 2884 and cost us $150 per year
per light to maintain.
244 CITY VEHICLES use 12,000 gallons of fuel each month.
DOG LICENSING being computerized by County Animal Control.
Terminal will be installed at the North County Animal Shelter
on Palomar Airport Road. All Carlsbad dogs will be licensed
at that location after Dec. 31.
CARLSBAD BLVD. STORM DRAIN plan and specs (Tamarack to Agua
Hedionda Lagoon) on agenda for Council approval Tues.
DISCUSSION: AN EXCHANGE OF INTELLIGENCE; ARGUMENT: AN EXCHANGE
OF IGNORANCE.
APPEAL of Planning Commission decision to revoke CUP for WOOLWORTH's
VIDEO ARCADE set for public hearing Tues. night.
STATE LAW requires that Housing Element of General Plan be updated
by July 1, 1985. Proposal for SANDAG to provide technical
assistance to revise element on Tues. agenda.
LIBRARY circulated 139,424 items in first quarter of 1984. That's
a 12% increase.
SAN MARCOS OUTFALL LINE approved by EPA and is now undergoing
review and public comment prior to release of grant funds.
Carlsbad will share capacity up to 2 MGD.
UNITED WAY/CHAD CAMPAIGN concluded - 7% of city employees
contributed $4,602. Thanks to PAULINE KILLINGSWORTH and
Jim Hagaman for handling.
TWO EXCESS PARCELS of land at City swim pool site will be
returned to school district as requested by school board.
Council action scheduled Tues. night.
ENCINA POWER PLANT 30 Year Anniversary, Thurs., Nov. 29. Special
reception and luncheon planned for invited guests on site,
4600 Carlsbad Blvd. Public invited to reception (refreshments)
from 5-7 PM.
SPECIAL THANKS to FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY for the lovely spread
they provided at the Council reception last Tues.
IF YOU CAN'T IMPROVE THE WORLD, TRY TO PREVENT IT FROM GETTING
WORSE.
C.I.P. UPDATE
— PARKING LOT on Pio Pico has been completed and may now be
used by city employees.
-- ALGA ROAD DEDICATION set for Tues., Nov. 20, 10:00 AM.
— POINSETTIA LANE BRIDGE fill placement completed. Pile
driving for bridge abutment will begin next week.
— BLUFF PROTECTION final engineering feasibility study has
been sent to Dept. of Boating and Waterways.
YMCA PROJECT OZ NORTH COAST celebrates their 9th year of con-
tinuous community service on Tues., Nov. 27. Open House is
scheduled from 8 - 10AM, 1212 Oak Ave.
WATER BILLING MAIL DROP BOX will be provided for customer
convenience - location is now being determined.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS will now be held on 2nd and 4th
Wed. at 6:00 PM. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD will meet 2nd Wed. at
5:00 PM.
NO CITY MGR. NEWSLETTER next week due to holidays. :
— Mon., Nov. 26, 5 PM Housing & Redevelopment Advisory
— Tues., Nov. 27, 6 PM Council Meeting
— Wed., Nov. 28, 6 PM Planning Commission
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CARLSBAD ATHLETIC RECREATION ASSOCIATION
Chairman
Greg Nelson
Vice-Chairman
John Beach
2221 Las Palmas Drive,Suite J
Carlsbad,Ca. 92008 Secretary
Ramona Finnila
Financial Manager
Bob Fenner
MEMORANDUM
TO: Dave Bradstreet, Parks & Recreation
FROM: Greg Nelson, Chairman, C. A. R. A.
DATE: November 12, 1984
RE: Skinning of Ball Fields at Schools
It is our feelings that cutting areas in the grass for
the placement of the bases would make an already hazardous
situation even more dangerous. The only way to make the
softball/baseball fields safer for any play is to skin the
field. If we cannot do this, let's do nothing!
Providing places to practice is something, but we should
not fool ourselves that they are proper and safe.
As we all know - the need for playing fields is serious
and, hopefully, with the current attitudes, will begin to be
met soon.
GRN:mb
cc: Carlsbad School Board members
City of Carlsbad Council members
NOVEMBER 21, 1984
TO: REDEVELOPMENT MANAGER
VIA: Parks & Recreation Director
FROM: Parks Superintendent
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CHASE FIELD IMPROVEMENTS
RECOMMENDATION
The Parks and Recreation Department requests Block Grant funds for the renovation
of Chase Field. The improvements requested are:
A. Landscape rejuvenation
B. Hardscape improvements
C. New bleacher facilities
D. New backstops
FISCAL IMPACT
1. Landscape renovation - $30,000
includes existing irrigation revamped, landscape and irrigate
entire perimeter of site, install permanent picnic facilities,
and provide additional recreational facility, i.e. horseshoe
court.
2. Hardscape improvements - $10,000
includes additional sidewaks, handicap access, drinking
fountains, signs, and asphalt surfacing.
3. New bleacher facilities - $17,000
provides for new permanent metal bleachers with O.S.H.A.
approved handrails and large seating capacity.
4. Backstops - $15,000
includes three new specially constructed backstops to
incorporate needs of the unique site.
GRAND TOTAL $72,000
The above improvements would represent a much needed restoration for this heavily
used facility.
DOUG DUNCANSON
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c: Parks & Recreation Commission
Frank Mannen, Assistant City Manger
CARA MINUTES
Meeting of November 28, 1984
The meeting was called to order at 5:05 by Greg Nelson, President.
Those members present were: Jim Courtney, Shirley Dahlquist, Ramona
Finnila, Mike Glass, Mike Peterson, Ken Price and Dan Sherlock.
The previous month's minutes required a correction. Dahlquist's proposal
for a community center was on the city-owned property, the Grove.
Report 1. Ken Price/Cadencia
Price reported a December fourth meeting of Cadencia park homeowners
with the City Council concerning use of Cadencia. After some discussion
a motion made by Finnila and seconded by Glass was voted on and passed.
The motion: CARA supports keeping Cadencia Park an active play area
for games and practice in South Carlsbad.
Greg Nelson will write a letter to the City Council stating our position
on Cadencia.
Report 2. Shirley Dahlquist/Educational Parks
Dahlquist distributed a Carlsbad Journal article advocating making part
of Calavera Hills Community Park an educational park.
Dahlquist reported the city attorney has stated that school buildings
cannot be built on dedicated park land. Because of the existing drastic
shortage of parks and recreation facilities, the proposal was not endorsed
by CARA.
Report 3. Jim Courtney
Courtney reported the city's taking initial steps to create an assessment
district that will finance the expansion of Cannon Road to east of El
Camino Real. It was thought the road opening might facilitate further
park development.
Courtney is formulating a proposal to convert the old tennis courts
on Monroe to a speed soccer field with astro turf for a projected cost
of $55,000. Speed soccer requires a walled outdoor playing area. Ind
discussing his proposal he has heard two further ideas: one, to build
a teen center on the land next to thp swim pool, and two, to build a
community gymnasium on Valley Junior High's land. .
Report 5. Parks and Recreation Element of General Plan Study/Ramona
Finnila
Finnila reported how badly the Parks and Recreation Element is out of
sync with 1984 on recreation needs. A 1981 questionnaire surveyed 557
people as to recreation needs. The priorities were: pools, lighted
playing fields, teen center, gym, outdoor theater.
CARA Minutes
November 28, 1984
Page 2
Nelson will call Councilwoman Kulchin to suggest her including Jim Courtney
on her General Plan study committeee.
Report 5. Parks and Recreation Survey
Dahlquist reported over 100 responses to the Recreation Program Survey
which was distributed in the fall brochure. Many CARA members felt
the marketing of the survey was not good and that it either should be
sent home through the schools or in the Boys'/Girls' Club newsletter.
Shirley Dahlquist will look into the feasibility of either of the two
distribution methods.
Report 6. Nominations
Four offices will be filled in December: chairman, project coordinator,
vice chairman and secretary. One nomination for each position has been
received. Many more are needed! Call Ramona at 729-6587 to place a
name for nomination.
In other business:
1. CARA will schedule a visitation some time in January to the HUB
park site. Interested people should contact Jim Courtney at 729-7710.
2. Mike Glass reported a fund raiser in the form of a golf tournament
to be held February 11 at the Lomas Santa Fe Country Club. Celebrities
will be there. A prime rib dinner, raffle and beer wagon will also
be available. Cost is $95.
The next meeting will be December 19, 1984 at 5:00 p.m. in Harding Center.
All youth groups must have a member present!
The meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ramona Finnila
Secretary
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CARLSBAD SOCCER CLUB
P O Box 1534
Carlsbad, CA 92008
November 1. 1984
Mr. David Bradstreet
Deot. o-f Parks ?< Recreation
1200 Elm St.
Carlsbad. CA 92008
Dear Mr. Bradstreet:
We all realize the urgent need -for more recreational
•facilities in the City o-f Carlsbad, and there-fore would like
to recommend a very attractive ?< beni-ficial -facility to the
City.
We would like to solicit
this proDsal: Conversion
"Speed Soccer" Court.
your attention and consideration -for
o-f the Monroe St. Tennis Courts to a
This could be done at a nominal cost and provide a much
needed -facility -for the citizens of Carlsbad.
In addition to full-filling a need, it could also generate
much needed revenue for the City.
It could be used for approximately four months for the
resident youth speed soccer program and for about eight
months for a public speed soocer program. (The facility will
be in demand for year around use.)
The total costs to convert the existing facility would be
approximately Seventy-five Thousand Dollars.
The facility could generate approximately Fifteen to Twenty
Thousand Dollars per year. (Totals for all costs, and
projected income are attached as exhibit A, and exhibit B. )
Thanking you for your help in this matter, I remain,
incerely yours
ames A. Courtney. Pres.
November 9, 1984
TO: DAVID BRADSTREET
FROM: DOUG DUNCANSON
RE: SPEED SOCCER COURT AT MONROE TENNIS COURTS
The Parks and Recreation Department has been approached by the Carlsbad
Soccer Club regarding the use of Monroe Street tennis courts for a speed/
indoor soccer facility.
The usage requested would result in a conversion of the entire existing
facility to an artificially turfed facility. Speed soccer is a fast grow-
ing sport throughout the country.
The following factors should be taken into consideration:
1. COST - Installed professionally, entire court $55,000
Lights 40,000
Total $95,000
Costs reflect professionally installed court and lights;
includes astro turf, side boards, goals, and nets.
2. CURRENT USAGE
A. One Recreation sponsered tennis class
B. Publis usage - 30-50 people/week
3. PADDLE TENNIS REQUEST
4. STATUS OF LAND - does or will school district want land back?
5. MAINTENANCE COSTS - similar to existing Annual $4,000
Approximately 8 hours/week x $12
6. UTILITY COSTS (with lights) $3,000
7. POTENTIAL USAGE - 200 - 400+/weekly
8. POTENTIAL REVENUE - $15,000 - $25,000
(Based on $200/team - 8 week seasons,
2 games/day, 8 games/week
9. OTHER USES OF FACILITY
A. Volley ball courts (2)
B. Synthetic tennis court
10. CURRENT NEEDS OF COMMUNITY - National Standard 1/2000
40jOOO = 20 courts, existing 17 public (includes 4 at Monroe St.)
ATTACHMENT A
Page 2 - November 9, 1984
FUNDING SOURCES
1. P. I. L. - Area I
2. Community Volunteer Funding?
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DOUG V. DUNCANSON
Park Superintendent
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November 9, 1984
TO: DAVID BRADSTREET
FROM: DOUG DUNCANSON
RE: SPEED SOCCER COURT AT MONROE TENNIS COURTS
The Parks and Recreation Department has been approached by the Carlsbad
Soccer Club regarding the use of Monroe Street tennis courts for a speed/
indoor soccer facility.
The usage requested would result in a conversion of the entire existing
facility to an artificially turfed facility. Speed soccer is a fast grow-
ing sport throughout the country.
The following factors should be taken into consideration:
1. COST - Installed professionally, entire court $55,000
Lights 40,000
Total $95,000
Costs reflect professionally installed court and lights;
includes astro turf, side boards, goals, and nets.
2. CURRENT USAGE
A. One Recreation sponsered tennis class
B. Publis usage - 30-50 people/week
3. PADDLE TENNIS REQUEST
4. STATUS OF LAND - does or will school district want land back?
5. MAINTENANCE COSTS - similar to existing Annual $4,000
Approximately 8 hours/week x $12
6. UTILITY COSTS (with lights) $3,000
7. POTENTIAL USAGE - 200 - 400+/weekly
8. POTENTIAL REVENUE - $15,000 - $25,000
(Based on $200/team - 8 week seasons,
2 games/day, 8 games/week
9. OTHER USES OF FACILITY
A. Volley ball courts (2)
B. Synthetic tennis court
10. CURRENT NEEDS OF COMMUNITY - National Standard 1/2000
4000 = 20 courts, existing 17 public (includes 4 at Monroe St.)
Page 2 - November 9, 1984
FUNDING SOURCES
1. P. I. L. - Area I
2. Community Volunteer Funding?
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Attachment B
November 9, 1984
TO: CITY MANAGER
FROM: Director of Parks & Recreation
CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL POOL HOURS
AND RENTAL RATE REDUCTION
On 11/6/84 City staff met with District officials to iron out the remain-
ing details regarding rental rates and the District's use of the pool for
instructional and competitive purposes.
Recommendations and Agreements
1. The District agrees to joint use between 3:00 and 5:00 p.m.
subject to reconsideration after their program has begun, when
the number of students can be measured and the safety of joint
use can be determined.
2. The City agrees to expand exclusive District use the following
times:
7:15 a.m. - 8:00 a.m. September - June
2:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. September - June
7:00 a.m. - 9:00 a.m. 8/19/85 to 9/6/85
7:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m. 8/19/85 to 9/6/85
3. The City agrees to allow the Distrit exclusive use during
scrimmages and competition meets subject to advanced notice
for scheduling purposes.
4. The City agrees to allow the District to conduct the instruc-
tional program free of charge from:
11:15 a.m. - Noon
2:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.
5. During joint use times the City will provide lifeguard ser-
vice for both District and City.
6. The District agrees to the following rental rates:
Exclusive Use - $14/hour
Nonexclusive Use - $7/hour
7. Effective 198^r8BPthe rental rates will be subject to renego-
tiation. '
Attachment C
November 9, 1984
Page 2
8. The following dates, times, uses and rental rates have been
mutually agreed upon by both the City and District for the
Fiscal Years 84-85 and 85-86.
FISCAL YEAR 84-85 SCHEDULE
Date
2/18 to 5/10/85
2/18 to 5/10/85
2/18 to 5/10/85
4/22 to 5/3/85
4/22 to 5/3/85
4/22 to 5/3/85
5/6 to 5/17/85
5/6 to 5/17/85
5/6 to 5/17/85
5/20 to 5/24/85
8/19 to 9/6/85
9/9 to 11/8/85
Date
2/17 to 5/9/86
2/17 to 5/9/86
9/16/85 to
6/13/86
9/16/85 to
6/13/86
9/16/85 to
6/13/86
9/16/85 to
6/13/86
8/18 to 9/5/86
8/18 to 9/5/86
9/8 to 11/7/86
9/8 to 11/7/86
9/8 to 11/7/86
Time
6:00 a.m. -7:15 a.m.
7:15 a.m. -8:00 a.m.
3:00 p.m. -5:00 p.m.
8:00 a.m. -10:00 a.m.
10:00 a.m. -12 Noon
1:00 p.m. -3:00 p.m.
8:00 a.m. -10:00 a.m.
11:00 a.m. -12 Noon
1:00 p.m. -3:00 p.m.
8:00 a.m. -9:00 a.m.
7:00 a.m. -9:00 a.m.
7:30 p.m. -9:30 p.m.
FISCAL YEAR 85-86
Time
6:00 a.m. -7:15 a.m.
7:15 a.m. -8:00 a.m.
8:00 a.m. -10:00 a.m.
10:00 a.m. -12 Noon
1:00 p.m. -1:15 p.m.
1: 15 p.m. -3:00 p.m.
7:00 a.m. -9:00 a.m.
7:30 p.m. -9:30 p.m.
6:00 a.m. -7:15 a.m.
7:15 a.m. -8:00 a.m.
3:00 p.m. -5:00 p.m.
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Swim Team
Swim Team
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Instruction
Instruction
Instruction
Instruction
Instruction
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Water Polo
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Swim Team
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Instruction
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Water Polo
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October 19, 1984
TO: CITY MANAGER
FROM: Parks and Recreation Director
CUSD REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL POOL HOURS (REFER TO ATTACHMENT A)
Reconmendations r\) W»
1. The City will accomodate the District's request for certain
additional pool use between the hours of 6:00 a.m. and
5:00 p.m. Monday through Friday during the school calendar fyu&-
year. (Refer to Attachments B and C) ^
The request to use the pool in August of 1985 requires '
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2. The following times have been mutually agreed to be
jointly used for City and District aquatic programs:
6:00 a.m. - 7:15 a.m. . U*~-~l'-l*~
10:00 a.m. - noon OK*
1:00 p.m. - 1:15 p.m.
The City and District are still discussing the District's
request for exclusive use from
3:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
The City agrees to offer the District exclusive use |6-X C
during competitive meets, rates to be determined.
Rental Fee
a. Instructional Program between the hours of:
11:15 a.m. - noon
2:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. FREE
b. Interscholastic swimming and water polo Lijt^. ^'
between the hours of: ~^<,•.»*
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L ' 2:0° p'm> " 5:0° p'm'
EXCLUSIVE USE $14/Hr
NON-EXCLUSIVE USE $ 7/Hr
4. Effective 1985-86 the rental rate for District use of pool
will be based on the annual maintenance and operation
direct cost.
5. During joint or non-exclusive use the District will not
be required to provide life guard service. They will be
provided bt the City.
1
October 19, 1984
Page 2
Fiscal Impact
1. If the City cancelled existing programs, so that the
District could have exclusive use,
Annual City Loss of Revenue $ 29,400
.2. If the City charged the District for use as per
1983 agreement,
The District Cost, 84-85 $ 9,100 7
85-86 $ 13,387 /
3. By the City's providing life guards during non-
exclusive use times,
The District Saves, 84-85 $ 2,380
85-86 $ 4,440
4. By the City's offering the District free use for
instructional program, iV\ iv~-\1- 2. - 5
The District Saves, 84-85 $ 490
85-86 $ 4,777
84-85 Pool Operation Cost
Budget $166,244
City Hourly Rate $28.46*
District Direct
Hourly Rate $16.72*
*based on a sixteen hour day
Analysis/Discussion
The District's request for number of hours is broken down
as follows:
1984-85
Instructional Program 115 hours
Swim Team 300
Water Polo 315
Total 730 hours
1985-86
Instructional Program 1,170 hours
Swim Team 300
Water Polo (approx.) 315
Total 1.785 hours
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Page 3
The District's exclusive hours during the school year:
7:15 a.m. - 10:00 a.m.
1:15 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
The District/City non-exclusive hours during the school year:
6:00 a.m. - 7:15 a.m.
10:00 a.m. - noon
The City's exclusive hours during the school year:
12:00 noon - 1:15 p.m.
5:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Saturday and Sunday - All Day
Summary
It is this Department's intent to work cooperatively with the
District in making the pool available for their programs. Staff
feels that in most cases both the City and District programs can
co-exist with proper coordination and supervision.
Because the District has not fully utilized the pool in the past,
and the Department has implemented certain aquatic programs,
there is a public expectation that we feel should be considered
when scheduling pool use.
David Bradstreet
Director
c: Assistant City Manager
^Carlsbad Unified School District
801 Pine Avenue, Carlsbad, California 92OO8 729-9291 'Excellence In Education"
BOARD OF
TRUSTEES
J. EDWARD SWITZER, JR.
President
JULIANNE L. NYCAARD
Vice President
JAMES McCORMICK
Clerk
JOE ANGEL
Member
JOHN ). MAMAUX
Member
DISTRICT
ADMINISTRATION
PHILIP CRICNON. Ed.D.
District Superintendent
(AMES M. STARK
Business Services
SUSAN-HARUMI BENTLEY
Instructional Services
DAVID WM. BATES, SR.
Employee Relations
!ICHARDA. SHALER
Information Systems
K.C. DUNLAP
Facilities/Services
October 12, 1984
Mr. Frank Aleshire
Carlsbad City Manager
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Dear Mr. Aleshire:
On September 27, 1984 the City of Carlsbad/Carlsbad Unified
School District Committee met to discuss areas in which
the City and School District could cooperate to the mutual
benefit of the citizens and students of Carlsbad. One
of the areas discussed was the District's use of the swimming
pool complex for instructional and competitive purposes.
As you know, there has been considerable interest expressed
by the citizens of Carlsbad for the District to develop
an aquatics program, which would increase our need for
time at the swimming complex. ^^____
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We also discussed the rate the City would charge the school
District for pool use exceeding the hours provided for
in the contract at no charge to the District. The contract
currently calls for a rate of $14.00 per hour for such
use.
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As you are aware, any
funds we are able to save on rental charges for use of
the pool become immediately available for instructional
programs which benefit all citizens of Carlsbad.
Sincerely,
James Stark
Assistant Superintendent
Business Services
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Enclosure
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CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
Swimming Program Schedule
A. Instructional Program
1. FY 1984-85
4/22 - 4/26/85 8:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
4/29 - 5/3/85 8:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
5/6 - 5/10/85 8:00 - 10:00 a.m., 11:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
5/13 - 5/17/85 8:00 - 10:00 a.m., 11:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
5/20 - 5/24/85 8:00 - 9:00 a.m.
2. FY 1985-86
9/16 - 6/13/86 8:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
B. Interscholastic Swimming
1. FY 1984-85 . -
2/18 - 5/-U/85 6:00 - 8:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
2. FY 1985-86
2/17 - 5/9/86
C. Water Polo
1. FY 1985-86
V£ 8/20 - 9/8/85
Competition in post-season play would extend the length
of the season by one week.
6:00 - 8:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
Competition in post-season play would extend the length
of the season by one week.
6:00 - 9:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
9/10 - 11/10/85 6:00 - 8:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
Competition in post-season play would extend the length
of the season by one week.
Exact date for both the water polo and interscholastic
swimming seasons for the 1985-86 school year will not
be released by the CIF until the spring of 1985.
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CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA
October 19, 1984
TO: Jim Stark, Assistant Superintendent, Business Services
FROM: Dale Mitchell, Vice Principal; Patricia A. Burden, Principal
SUBJECT: Swimming Program
With the frequent meetings and phone calls among both district and city officials, we
would like to report to you an agreement which we feel is acceptable at this time.
I. Instructional Program
1984-85 School Year, September 17, 1984 to June 19, 1985
8:00 - 10:00 a.m. Exclusive Use
10:00 - 12:00 noon Joint Use
1:15 - 2:00 p.m. Exclusive Use
City agrees to provide lifeguards during joint use hours.
II. Swim Team o *.
We are still requesting exclusive use of pool for our swimming team beginning
February 18, 1985 to May 10, 1985, for the hours of 6:00 - 8:00 a.m. and
2:00 - 5:00 p.m. We are willing to negotiate joint use of these times at a
later date upon examination of pool use by our swim team.
III. Water Polo
We are also requesting exclusive use of the pool for our water polo team
beginning August 19, 1985 to November 8, 1985.
August 19 - September 6, 1985 6:00 - 9:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
September 9 - November 8, 1985 6:00 - 8:00 a.m., 2:00 - 5:00 p.m.
We are willing to negotiate joint use of the pool at these times at a later
date upon examination of pool needs by the water polo team.
Our hesitancy in not desiring joint use of the pool for the swimming and water polo
programs is due to our inability to determine the number of students participating
in these programs. As soon as the size of the squads is determined, we would be
willing to negotiate further.
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TO: CITY MANAGER
FROM: Parks and Recreation Director
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT QUARTERLY REPORT
A. FISCAL YEAR 84-85 FUNDED PROJECTS
PIL
Priority Project District Cost Fund
1. Fuerte School/Park 4 $150,000 PIL
2. Calavera Hills Comm. Park (Phase I) 2 610,000 PIL & PFF
3. Pine/Chase Field Rehabilitation 1 70,000 PIL
4. Holiday Park (Parking) 1 60.000 PIL
$890,720
B. UNFUNDED PROJECTS UNDER CONSID-ERTION
Recommended PIL Estimated
Priority Project District Cost
1. Stagecoach Community Park 4 $ 2,961,920
2. Center/Gymnasium 2 996,400
3. Alga Norte Community Park 4 N/A
4. Ed./Community Park (CHS site) 2 N/A
5. Macario SRA/Community Park 3 $38,000,000
6. Community Park (SW Quadrant) 3 N/A
7. School Field Improvements 1 $ 62,000
C. CURRENT FUNDED PROJECT STATUS
1. Fuerte School/Park
Description - Joint development with San Marcos School District. 3.6
acres of park will be constructed adjacent to the La Costa Meadows
Elementary School. Plans call for a combination of City and school
facilities of three (3) unlighted youth Softball fields, one (1) adult
softball field, two (2) soccer fields, small passive area, hardcourt
play areas and parking. The restrooms will be provided through City/
District use agreements. Funding will be provided by PIL fees and land
water grant funds.
Preliminary
a) Master Plan - Completed (District/City)
b) Conceptual Plans - Completed (District/City)
c) Funding Approved - City Council
d) City/District Maintenance & Use Agreements-Complete (District/City)
e) Parks and Recreation Commission - Approved
City Manager ~~
November 9, 1984
Page 2
Design
a) Construction Plans & Specs. - Completed by District Consultant
b) CUP - In Process (Planning Department)
c) EIA - Complete (Negative Declaration)
d) Parks & Recreation Commission - Approved
Advertising
a) Accomplished by District consultants for both District and City
portion of project. City is to pay for work performed by District.
Agteement for payment schedule being prepared by City staff.
Construction
a) Grading permit - Completed
b) Grading in process on both City and District property.
c) District contractor will perform site improvements.
d) City responsible for backstop, bleachers, and minor improvements
on City land.
Completion
a) Estimated to be September, 1985
2. Calaver Hills Community Park (Phase I)
Description - Develop eight (8) of the total eighteen (18) acres of park.
Plans call for three (3) lighted youth Softball fields, one (1) practice
soccer field, restroom/snack bar, hardcourt game area, parking lot, tot
lot, walkways and picnic area. Funding: PFF, $560,000; PIL, $50,000;
Total, $610,000
Preliminary
a) Master Plan - Complete (Parks & Rec. Staff)
b) Conceptual Plan - Complete (Parks & Rec. Staff)
c) Funding - Approved (City Council)
d) CUP - In Process (Planning Department)
e) EIA - In Process (Planning Department)
f) Parks & Recreation Commission - Approved
Design
a) Construction Plans & Specifications
1. Request for Proposals sent out 10/29/84
2. Set for Council action 12/18/84
Advertising
a) Contract proposals for construction early 1985.
City Manager
November 9, 1984
Page 3
Construction
a) Estimated to begin Spring, 1985.
Completion
a) Estimated late 1985.
3. Pine/Chase Rehabilitation
Description - Removing and replacing fencing and backstops, remodeling and
enlarging restroom and replacing old irrigation system. Funding provided
by PIL funds.
Preliminary
a) Master Plan - Completed •
Design
a) Request for Proposals for restroom rehabilitation sent out in
November, 1984.
Advertising
a) To be completed (Parks & Rec. Staff)
Construction
a) Pine
1. Fencing replaced, block wall installed, new A/C pad poured
and rolled, new trash receptacle constructed. (Parks & Rec. Staff)
b) Chase
1. Bids for fencing replacement sent out 11/8/84.
2. Construction to commence December, 1984.
3. Restroom rehabilitation will begin January, 1985.
Completion
a) Both projects will be completed by March 1985.
4. Holiday Park (Parking)
Description - Provide paved parking, curb and sidewalks along east boundary
of park. Funding provided by PIL funds.
Preliminary
a) Master Plan - Completed (Eng./Parks & Rec.)
City Manager •
November 9 1984
Page 4
Design
a) To be completed by Engineering Department; not scheduled
to date.
Advertising
a) To be coordinated by Engineering Department.
Completion
a) Estimated by June, 1985.
D. UNFUNDED PROJECT STATUS
1. Stagecoach
Description - Develop approximately 20 acres of the total 28 acre park
site. Plans call for lighted multi-use athletic fields, restrooms, parking
and passive picnic area. Partial funding available for construction in PIL
District 4.
Preliminary
a) Master plan has been proposed and is under consideration.
b) Conceptual plan has been prepared.
c) CUP is on file and is being processed by the Planning Department.
d) EIA is on file and being processed.
e) EIR Request for Proposal sent out in October, 1984.
f) Environmental and safety issues are currently under consideration.
g) Parks & Recreation Commission approved conceptual plan Alternative 2.
Design
a) Staff plans to hire a park planning consultant to complete the
design process.
Advertising
a) Part of park planning consultant's responsibility.
Construction
a) When environmental and traffic issues are resolved, construction
dates can be determined.
Completion
a) Cannot be determined at this date.
City Manager
November 9, 1984
Page 5
2. Center/Gymnasium
Description - Plans call out for a 11,000 to 15,000 square foot multi-use
facility to be constructed at Cannon Lake Park.
Preliminary
a) Staff directed to prepare EIR and CUP by City Council. Cannon
Lake Park site also requires a biological, hydrological,
hydraulics and soils report. These reports are required due
to location near water area.
Staff has received negative input regarding Cannon Lake as a
site for a center/gymnasium facility.
Staff recommends that the park planning consultant reanalyze
site location and building design and use concept.
Calavera Hills Community Park is logical site for center.
3. Alga Norte Community Park
Description - This 24 acre park is to be constructed in District 4 at
Carrillo Way and adjacent to the newly constructed La Costa 9 hole golf
course. Plans call out for lighted multi-use athletic facilities,
parking, picnic areas, community center and a city library.
Preliminary
a) A conceptual plan has been prepared for the proposed park site.
Upon the first final of the first subdivision in the Daon Master
Plan area, the City will receive 15 acres for Phase I development.
4. Educational/Community Park - CHS Site
Description - Preliminary plans call out for a joint high school
community park facility. The CUSD has offered to the city park of
their 42 acre school site for possible ballfield development.
Preliminary
a) City Council has authorized staff to work with District in
preparing a park/school master plan.
5. Macario SRA/Community Park
Description - Development of 502 acres of City and leased property
for park and recreational uses. Concept provides for City and
private entities for facility construction.
City Manager
November 9, 1984
Page 6
Preliminary
a) Development master plan has been prepared by Iwanaga and Associates.
Plan calls out for a 15 year phased development program. Start
date has not been determined due to lack of funding. Staff has done
some preliminary tree planting and the City has just approved a
temporary firing range to be located at the east end of the canyon.
6. Community Park - Southwest Quadrant
Description - Plans call out for a multi-use school/park facility to be
located north of Batiquitos Lagoon possibly on the Hunt property.
Preliminary
a) The Research and Analysis Group has prepared a conceptual plan
incorporating schools and a community park contiguous to one
another. Each location of school or park site has not been
determined as of this date.
7. School Field Improvements
Description - CARA representatives requested that skinned infields be
provided at Kelly, Jefferson, and Valley school sites and the turfing
of Buena Vista for soccer activities be done.
The School District will not allow skinned infields on their property
and they plan to use the lower section of Buena Vista for classrooms and
parking. CARA has been informed of the District's decision and have
waived their request.
Staff feels there is no need for the $62,000 request at this time.