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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-04-20; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMinutes of: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 5:00 P.M. Date of Meeting: APRIL 20, 1992 Place of Meeting: CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Castner called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:02 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, and Ward Absent: Commissioner Lawson Staff Members Present: David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager Doug Duncanson, Park Superintendent Pat Entezari, Engineer Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Finnila, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held March 16, 1992, were approved as amended. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson PUBLIC OPEN FORUM: There were no requests to address the Commission. PRESENTATIONS: There were no presentations made. 04 Parks and Recreation Commission - 2 - April 20, 1992 APPROVAL OF AGENDA: ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, the Agenda for March 16,1992 was approved as printed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson CONSENT CALENDAR: Commissioner Finnila requested that AB #492-1 Director's Report be removed from the Consent Calendar. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, the Agenda for April 20, 1992, was approved as printed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR: 1. AB #492-1 Director's Report Commissioner Finnila stated that the information contained in the report under Adult Sports was incorrect. The report should read that there were a total of 108 teams, including 18 women's teams. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Finnila, AB #492-1 Director's Report, was approved with amendments. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson PUBLIC HEARING: 5. AB #492-5 Alta Mira Park John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager, gave a slide presentation and made the following points: Parks and Recreation Commission - 3 - April 20, 1992 • Major construction of community park in the Southeast Quadrant • Development to occur in three phases: • Phase I Grade the total site and construct all improvements except the tennis center and community center/gymnasium. (Phase I may include a portion of the tennis courts.) • Phase II Construct the tennis center (remainder of the tennis courts, the "center court," and the tennis clubhouse). • Phase III Construct the community center/gymnasium. • reviewed the Environmental Impact Report (EIR) • passive park plus lighted baseball/Softball ball field • lighted soccer fields • tennis courts • three tot lots • picnic areas • maintenance facility • miscellaneous (for other types of activity) • parking requirements Mr. Cahill stated that a meeting was held at the Public Safety & Service Center on March 11,1992. Displays were exhibited showing the park planning process for Alta Mira and staff and consultants were present to answer questions from the public. Three alternative park layouts were available for public review and were marked "A", "B", and "C". Informal polling of those in attendance preferred Alternative A. Jim Ridge, Dike Partnership, reviewed the differences between Alternatives "B" and "C". Frank Brower, Dike Partnership, spoke to the differences between Alternative Plans A1 and A2 and made the following points: • additional softball/little league size field • trail system 05 Parks and Recreation Commission - 4 - April 20, 1992 • picnic area • open space • circulation pattern for vehicles will be hidden from outside view • entry drive off of Hidden Valley • slope elevation • gymnasium • amphitheater • topography • championship tennis court and tennis building • plan variation regarding buildings • parking • maintenance facility • snack bar/amenities area • tot lots • walkway paths • volleyball courts • landscaping Ross Sutherland, Dahlin Group, spoke to the architectural theme and design program of the park and referred to the two-story gymnasium. Connie Beardsley, Arts Director,.stated that interested architects had submitted slides (44 to date) for the art selection process. General Commission discussion included: • size of softball field • public comment sheet • trail from north to south advances through park • value of design - less compression of buildings • loss of ball field • ratio of soccer and baseball fields - state and federal requirements • total park requirements of quadrants • placement of large ball fields • multi-purpose fields • amphitheater potential of seating 400-500 people vs. Alternative A, design to seat couple of thousand persons • capacity of multi-purpose room - 200 maximum • outside wall textures - concrete and glass block Chairman Castner opened the public hearing. Parks and Recreation Commission - 5 - April 20, 1992 James Whitaker, 4742 Inverness Court, American Lawn Bowling Association, urged the Commission to make allowances for lawn bowling in the park, and described the game and total players needed. He stated that the availability of local lawn bowling greens was extremely limited and that there was world-wide interest in lawn bowling. Mr. Whitaker informed the Commission that there were 200 members locally and that those members must travel to Balboa Park or Laguna Beach to play. He said that currently there were many Carlsbad residents who were lawn bowlers. Mr. Whitaker advised the Commission that: • annual fees were $95 • new tech (artificial) greens require little maintenance vs. traditional greens • no other games would be permitted on these greens • fees collected would pay for green maintenance • lawn bowling members usually play on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday • practice begins at 12:00 noon with games commencing at 1:00 p.m. ending around 3:30 p.m. Dave Rapp, 6955 Peachtree, representing North County tennis patrons, stated that indoor soccer fields should not be next to tennis courts, and that three tennis courts should be together for ease in running a tennis clinic. He supported Alternative f^,. Commissioner Finnila felt that the tennis pro hired to run the tennis program be qualified as well as certified. Dennis Bradmeier, 2668 Ocean Street, President, Carlsbad Youth Baseball, stated his support of Parks and Recreation Alternative A^ Commissioner Finnila stated that effective scheduling could provide for multi-purpose ball field use by both youth and adult players and that Bobby Sox and lower divisions could use smaller ball fields. Robert Kelly, 2770 Sunny Creek Road, informed the Commission that he had attended the open house to review park designs and filled out the questionnaire provided by staff. He felt that Alternative A, was aesthetically better because of the central theme Parks and of the park that opens out and that a well-designed park contributes to higher property values of the surrounding neighborhoods. Chairman Castner closed the public hearing. OG Recreation Commission - 6 - April 20, 1992 ACTION: On motion by Chairman Castner, to adopt Plan A,, and direct staff to forward the recommendation to the City Council and to proceed with development of Alta Mira Park. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Strayer NOES: Commissioners Heineman, Frazier, Ward ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson Motion failed (3-3). ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Finnila, to adopt Plan A and direct staff to forward the recommendation to the City Council and to proceed with develo,: ment of Alta Mira Park. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson On order of the Chairman, the Commission recessed at 6:35 p.m. On order of the Chairman, the Commission reconvened at 6:41 p.m. DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: 6. AB #492-6 APPOINTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO REVIEW PANEL FOR COMMUNITY ACTIVITY FUNDING ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, to appoint Chairman Castner to assist with a review panel for requests for community activity funding. AYES: Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson ABSTAIN: Chairman Castner ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, to appoint Commissioner Finnila as the Alternate to assist with a review panel for requests for community activity funding. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson ABSTAIN: Commissioner Finnila Parks and Recreation Commission - 7 - April 20, 1992 7. AB #492-7 CARRILLO RANCH SUBCOMMITTEE Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, gave an historical overview of the Subcommittee and responded to questions of the Commission. Commissioner Ward stated that she was not comfortable with making recommendations to the City Council without visiting the site and suggested that all Commission members should visit the site to become familiar with the property. Marje Howard-Jones, Chairperson, Historic Preservation Commission, 4823 Argosy Lane, informed the Commission about the following concerns in terminating the Subcommittee prematurely: • suggested that the Subcommittee continue on an ad hoc basis in order to communicate with each other • that the Subcommittee was still needed to define specific kinds of passive use for the Carrillo Ranch • interaction should continue with the arboretum and the Subcommittee • landscape criteria • define criteria (walls, rooftop) • what Ranch buildings would be used General discussion ensued regarding the frequency of Subcommittee meetings, the reactivation of the Subcommittee as needed, the continuance of flow of ideas, and the commitment of the Commission regarding Leo Carrillo Ranch. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, to recommend the continuance of the Subcommittee on an Ad Hoc basis once a recommendation and final report for the additional land dedication (8.5 acres) for the park requirement associated with Zone 18 has been completed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson 8. AB #492-8 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION ANNUAL WORKSHOP It was the general consensus of the Commission to schedule the Annual Workshop on June 13, 1992, from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. 07 Parks and Recreation Commission - 8 - April 20, 1992 9. AB #492-9 SPLIT PAVILION Chairman Castner informed the Commission of his concern that the Split Pavilion had been placed on the Parks and Recreation inventory with upkeep being placed on the Parks and Recreation budget. Commissioner Strayer stated that the Pavilion had been presented to the Parks and Recreation Commission as an information item only and that the controversy surrounding the Pavilion had been unforeseen. Commissioner Finnila suggested that maintenance of the Split Pavilion be handled through the Utilities & Maintenance Department and that the Pavilion not be listed in the Parks and Recreation inventory. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, to recommend to the City Council that maintenance of the Split Pavilion be handled by the Utilities & Maintenance Department and to strike the Pavilion from the Parks and Recreation inventory. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson 10. AB #492-10 LEVANTE PARK Commissioner Strayer stated that staff had made some improvements at the Levante Park site and that Parks and Recreation Commission members had received updates from the staff about resolutions to neighbors' concerns. Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent, gave an update of the issues regarding Levante Park and informed the Commission that issues had been reviewed thoroughly and that an action plan had been identified for each complaint. The soccer "hot line" phone number had been given out by Larry West and that he.would be taking care of neighbors' complaints and that each soccer group would be responsible for collecting stray soccer balls out of neighbors' yards. Andrew Frey, 3103 Levante Street, suggested that some activities be prohibited at Levante Park. Dolores Sapien, 3101 Serrano Drive, informed the Commission that a large gully had been left between the fence when the bank was created. Parks and Recreation Commission - 9 - April 20, 1992 Dr. Goldwater, 3103 Serrano Drive, exhibited a bag containing both hardballs and softballs from recent activities this past weekend which occurs during organized sports events. He stated that adults and children had ruined the plants in his yard when retrieving equipment from his yard. He felt that property values had decreased because of the noise levels experienced by the neighbors from games being played at Levante Park. Dr. Goldwater stated that the fence between his property and the park was 20 feet high on a rise of eight feet. The fence had been installed by the local school board because of repeated petitions brought in by Dr. Goldwater. Commissioner Ward stated that he was not aware that hardball playing was allowed at public parks in the City. Mr. Price stated that hardball playing had been allowed in Carlsbad public parks since 1979. Bea Gpldwater, 3103 Serrano Drive, said that property owners were afraid of being hit by flying objects from the park and that an athletic field should not be in residential areas. She stated that parks were for public use. Neighbors also felt they had the responsibility to inform prospective home buyers of the noise and disturbances caused by the spectators using Levante Park. Tammy Phruksukarn, 3107 Serrano Drive, exhibited 11 baseballs that had landed in the swimming pool and back yard areas of her property. She informed the Commission that recently a window in her kitchen had been broken by baseballs coming from the park. Mrs. Phruksukarn suggested that baseball playing groups be limited to the very young and that hardball should be prohibited in public parks in the City. She stated that the spectator noise begins between 7:00-7:30 a.m. and was intolerable. The individual soccer organizations have agreed to start games after 9:00 a.m. at Levante Park. Mrs. Phruksukarn suggested that the ball fields be moved closer to the school because the corner of the playing field was less than 25 yards from her home and that the playing area should be considered the entire playing field. * Commissioner Finnila informed Mrs. Phruksukarn that since the window was broken by organized baseball play, the organization playing at the time was financially responsible for the broken window. Mrs. Phruksukarn informed the Commission that golfers also use the park to practice golf. Chairman Castner stated that golf was prohibited in City parks and that the police should be notified. 08 Parks and Recreation Commission - 10 - April 20, 1992 Commissioner Strayer suggested that staff do an analysis to find out why balls are landing in neighbors yards and to look at specific addresses involved. Chairman Castner stated that organized play groups must be responsible, if not, then the privilege of playing will be limited and use of the park will be denied to certain organizations. Dave Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation, stated that generally hardball was restricted in City parks but community groups needed to use ball fields for hardball and that if players didn't comply certain activities would be prohibited. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Finnila, to direct staff to pursue and monitor the issue of citizen complaints and develop an action plan for each item with special emphasis relating to complaints associated with baseball (hardball) activity. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson 11. AB #492-11 Northwest Quadrant Park Issue Dave Bradstreet gave a slide presentation regarding the Northwest Quadrant Park Issue. Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator, reviewed the Hosp Grove/Buena Vista Lagoon study area and responded to questions by the Commission. Lucia Sipple, 4679 El Camino Real, informed the Commission that her family was the property owner of 11 acres in the Buena Vista Lagoon area and strongly objected to the proposed plan by the Parks and Recreation Department and noted the problems her family had encountered with developers. She advised the Commission that 433 acres was for sale as one piece. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Finnila, to accept and file the report. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson Parks and Recreation Commission - 11 - April 20, 1992 ADJOURNMENT: ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, to adjourn the Regular Meeting at 8:57 p.m. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Frazier, Heineman, Strayer, Ward NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Lawson Respectfully submitted, Isabelle Paulsen Minutes Clerk 09