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Home My WebLink About1960-08-09; Planning Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF 3EUJAR MEETING OF CI'.RLSBi"D CITY PLANNING CWISSION August 9, 1960 1- The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M* by Chairman Jarvie. Present besides the Chairman were Commissioners Davis, Kistler, Hardwick, Ward, and Grant. Commissioner Hughes arrived at 7:40. 2- Approval of Minutes of July 26, 1960. It was moved by Commissioner Grant and seconded by Commissioner Ward that tile minutes of July 26, 1960 be approved as submitted. All ayes, motion carried. 3- Writ ten Connrunicat ions: There were no written communications. 4- Oral Communications: There were no oral comnications. Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified as to the publication o notice of hearing and the mailing of notices to property owners in the area. The Secretary then read the application, setting forth the reasons for re- questTng the variance, after which he showed a plan of the proposed dormitor There was no correspondence on this matter. COL. W.C. ATKINSON, representing the Army & Nzvy Academy, applicant, called attention to the fact that the Commission had seen the plans and that this variance would en€jance the rear of the building. One of the neighbors had called to say that she was relieved that they planned to enhance the rear of the building, and that if granted this variance that is what they planned to do, with an eye to making it more distinctive from the rear. MI:. CLAUD J. FENNEL, 2479 Ocean, stated he was in favor of anything they planned to do to keep the street nice, he was in favor of a little variety in the building lines. He stated that there had been an increase in land values on his street this year so it must be a nice street. He expressed th neighborhood's liking for the 8caderny and appreciation of what they planned to do, but thought it would be nice if they changed the plans and made it more attractive. Commissioner Grant asked how far the buildings were set back frm the property line at the present. Coi. Atkinson stated that the: two buildings extend east and west so that the ends of the buildings are 301 from the property line. It appears that the new building would be about eve with the steps of existing buildings, The public hearing was closed at 8:OO P.N. Chairman Jarvie stated that he hoped as many of t3e Comissioners as were able hsd inspected the property in question. Col. ktkir.son stated that they wanted to make the qupdrangle as spacious as possible for recreation purpose When asked what purpose there was in extending the buildingAout further, he -2 - 6. stated it was so there would be more space in the quadrangle and if it were not extended it would cut off the view. Chairman Jarvie voiced the opinion thgt the 20 ft. set back would be helpful if the street were ever widened. COLONEL ATKINSON said thet they were trying to increase their enrollment of boarding students, that he was happy that the street was the width it is as if it were wider the people would drive faster on it. Cmissioner Grant noted that zll the lots were elevated above Ocean Street and that the proposed building would be surrounded by c,-mpus and there is a wood guard block around it. It was moved by Co!:missioner Srant and seconded by Commissioner Ward that Resolution No. 173 be adopted grsnting the request for a variance as sub- mitted, for the following reasons: 1. The lots upon which construction will take place are situated 6 ft. above Ocean St. proper. 2. The proposed construction is approximately in the center of the campus. 3. That the granting of such variance will not be materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to the property or improvements in same vicinity and zone in which the property is located. 4, That the granting of such variance will not adversely affect the Com- prehensive general plan. The Chairman asked for a roll call vote: )-YES: Chairman Jarvie, Conmissioners Devis, Kistler, Hardwick, Ward and Gra NOES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioner Hughes ABSENT: None Resolution No. 173 adopted. HEiaING - kECLA-SSIFICFTION - Request of John and Norma Ortega for zone re- classification from R-1 (One family residential to ;i-2 (two family residential) on portion Trac 117 Carlsbad Lands. Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified to the mailing and pub- lishing of required notices. The Secretary then read the formal application setting forth the reasons for requesting the reclassification. The public hearing was closed at 8:30 3.M. There was some discussion among the Commissioners about the property and it was agreed thpt there was no objection to allowing the zone chmge as there were multiple dwellings all around it. However, it was pointed out that the should be no rezoning east of it and that it should be clear in the resolu- -3- 7. tion that they were not apprvving any zone change on other property in that aree. The Secretary was questioned as to what they planned to build on the property and stated that they planned to build a unit on the back of the lot. Chairman Jarvie pointed out thet it should be made clear that the street would have to be improved before any further rezoning. Commissioner Grant stated thpt the reclassification requests in the future from R-1 to R-2 or 3 on Hope St. should be based on widening of Grant St. from present width to standard size before approved. It wqs moved by Commissioner Kistler and seconded by Commissioner Hardwick that liesolution No. 174 be adopted recommending reclassification from Zone I.;-1 to k-2, for the following reasons: 1. That such variance is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other property in the same vicinity and zone but which is deniec! to the property in question. 2. That the granting of such variance will not be materially detrimental to tile public welfare or injdwious to the property or inprovements in such vicinity and zone in which the property is located. 3. That the granting of such variance will not adversely affect the compre- hensive general plan. The Chairman asked for n roll c~ll vote: AYES: Chairman Jarvie, Colmissioners Davis, Kistler, Herdwick, Ward, Grant and IIughes . N03S: None. kBS ENT : None . kesolution No. 174 adopted. Old Business The Chairman asked the Secretary if he had looked into the requirements in t neighboring towns as to lot area per dwellin:: unit. The Secretary stated that he had and in San Diego it was 60% coverage. Oceanside requires 800 sq. ft., Escondido has no rz:wiremant except yards. El Cajon's requirements were, 2 rooms, d/15 of area, 3 rooms, 1/10 and 4 rooms, 1/8. He had inquired of people as to why there was a 1200 sq. Et. requirement in Carlsbad and no one could state any reason why it had been designated. After considerable discussion on the matter, the consensus was that SO0 sq. ft. was a zood figure but Commissioner Grant felt that further study should be given the matter. The matter of creating a new zone such as RB-Beach or kB-3 for the beach pr erties west of Garfield from Cypress to Chinquapin wrs brought up and it we suggested thpt the Commission consider the principle and decide what to do about it. Chairman Jarvie read an article on the purpose of the master plan and sugge ed the Commissioners discuss the matter of an RB zone further. 1 .. , 8- New Business The advisability of renoving the potential R-3 zone from the zoning map was brought up. Although the potential K-3 zone is good in theory, ias a prac- tical matter it has worked hardships on the people, as they were under re- strictions that others in R-1 zone were not under. It was decided that it might be wise to remove the R-3 potential and that more thought ought to be given the matter before anything definite was done. The subject of whether lot splits should be allowed on panhandle lots to allow building at the rear, was brought up but nothing definite was decided, Because anyone who buys on Ocean St. has to get a variance to build closer to the lot line on the west side of the street, it was decided that the Conmission should consider a resolution of intention that on the west side of Ocean St. the people be allowed to build to the property line. The Chairman appointed Commissioners Davis and Kistler as delegates to the Planning Congress which meets 4 times a year. It was suggested thot rather than a one-man committee accompanying the engine to examine a prospective subdivisibn, that as many of the Comnlissioners as could, go with him so they would be more faniliar with the topography of the 1 and. The subject of sidewalks in subdivisions was discussed and Cmissioner Grant read from the minutes of the City Council that the Planning Comission had been overruled in requiring sidewalks in the Las Flores Place subdivision. It was discussed as to whether this set a precedent on all subdivisions Meeting adjourned at 9:15 P.M. Respectfully submitted, J . H'; PR ICE Secretary