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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1965-04-13; Planning Commission; MinutesI I I. I I I I 'S8 '88*88\ ' 88 \,88\8 8 '\ " :CITY OF CA~~LSBAD I a *8 '8 ' b8 I I *8 '\ 88, *8'*,88, : Minutes of PLANNING CUMMI SSI ON i Date of Meeting: April 13, 1965 Name 'b ''$& '8.:+& : P1 ace of Meeting: """""""""""~""""""""""""""";""""*"-"",-- Council Chambers Member '@r"p'\!+$?G8: ""1"" I I ;:*It* I3 i j3OLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Palmateer, i Grant, Sutherland, Lamb, McComas and Freistadt. Comf ;::@lo ;:a::: : missioner McCarthy was absent. Also present were City: ;:ii:: i Attorney Wilson, Assistant City Engineer Thornton, Plan-! llmI; I:;;:' : ning Director Donald Schoell, and Building Inspector ; :::,I lll::i 1 Osburn. I i::::i I I ::I::: i APPROVAL OF MINUTES: I I ::I!:: 40 #I i Palmateer i i I x! ; : I I (a) Minutes of the regular meeting of March 23, 1965iGrant ; ;xix: ; ; i were approved as submitted. : Sutherland : ; ;x! : : I I Lamb :xi !x: ; ; I t McComas : : :x! : : I a ::I::: I (a) Council action on Planning matters WEW noted. i I I (b) City Manager - re: Precise Pian for the extensioq ;;::;; ' ;::::: I (c) City Engineer - re: Precise Plan for the exten- i ,@#I:: I ::::;; I :ii:;: 88 't ', 8 ' I Time of Meeting: 7: 30 P. M. : of '.480\\ 8 '8??&, .p",+@ ' I I I L" I - I1 '1 I I 6 Freistadt I !x: i i I ' I ;:I::; ;;a*/ I I ;It'*@ l:;l' 11: 1111 ! L% AI TTEN COMMUNICATI CNS: I I I I of Elm Avenue. sion of Elm Avenue. I t 81 1 I !l:!I! I : Chairman Sutherland suggested setting a date for a public I hearing on this matter. I I I I I / Secretary Grant read a proposed resolution of intention to i I hold a public hearing for a precise plan for the extension : : of Elm Avenue from its intersection with Pi0 Pic0 Drive i i easterly to its intersection with El Camino ileal between : : Vista W ay and Chestnut Avenue on April 27, 1965. I 8 I I i THE: CITY OF CARLSBAD DECLAdING ITS INTENTICN iGrant : MENDING TO TkXE CITY COUNCIL THE ADOPTICN CF !Lamb i A PitECISE PLAN FOLt TEE LGCATION CF A.N EXTEN- ; McComas : SIGN OF ELM AVENUE, was read in full and adopted. 8 Freistadt TG HOLD A PUBLIC SEAFLING TO CONS1 DEh L~ECGM- :Sutherland I I I I I I I I I * L I I I The Chairman requested Mr. Thornton to ask the City . Manager and the City Engineer to be present at this hear- i ing in order to answer the citizens questions regarding ; the financing and the time when this will go through. (dl Ernest Adler - re: Map for an alternate proposed I extension of Elm Avenue was acknowledged and the Chair-: ~ man instructed the iiecording Secretary to write Mr. Adlet ~ and ask him to appear before the Commission at the hear-: ~ ing to present the alternate map. I l a : I I I I 1 I I 1 6 (e) Parks and Recreation Commission - re: Jefferson I i Street Design. They asked that the Planning Commission : i recommend a change in the street design for the improve- I ; ment of Jefferson Street a.s they felt a sixty foot right of i : way with a 48' roadway as proposed only allows 6" for a ; parkway for planting purposes, and is inadequate, Mr. : : Thornton explained that the City street section requires a i i 5' parkway. The present right of way does not provide i : for this and the property owners did not indicate on,the ; i petition that they desired to dedicate the required 5 feet. ; : It was too late to have a 5' dedication unless they circulate: I easements from the property owners for tree planting pur' ; poses and the city maintains the trees. The City of Sacra! i mento does this. This would not be part of a 1911 Act. ; a new petition for this. He suggested obtaining small I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I 8 I I 1 I I 1 I * I ! ! I I I * I 1 6 I' I I I I I I 1 I 4 I I ,/ I I t' I I I I I I I ',, '8, '\, 8b '\ '8 I I I \, *., %8 '8 '8 '' I I I \ ', ', ', y', I : sf 'y&.d,,~,@$& I . ,.* I I # '% '. b, '\ 8 b I I I -2- i Na me \\, *\+, '8, '16 1 4 t '*,$:i'3i, '8, '$s ; I 4 1 I I iMR, ED HUMMEL, Chairman of the Parks and Recreation i :Commission, stated that he would be happy with the ease- ; Iment for planting purposes and that some property would. I !need two trees. :Mr. Thornton stated that the Engineering Department will i !work with the Parks and Recreation Commission to send ; jout a format for obtaining easements for planting purposes: :from the property owners as was done in Sacramento. :C&.AL COMMUNICATIGNS: :There were no oral communications. :PUBLIC AEAXNGS: I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I * I t I I I I I I I v I I I I I I (a) RECLASSIFICATION - R-P to C-2 (General Com- i irnercial) on property located on the Easterly side of Hard- 1 :ing St., between Grand and Elm Avenues, on Lots 7 and 8, : !Block 67, Map 535, Townsite of Carlsbad. Applicants: i :William A. Stringer and Louise Stringer. {Secretary Grant excused himself and sat in the audience :since he was the realtor for this property. !Commissioner McComas acted as Secretary and read the !application and notice of hearing and certified that notice i :of public hearing had been published and sent to property ; I !owners in the area. I I !There was no correspondence on this request. !The Chairman asked if there was any one present desiring i :to speak in favor or in opposition. !There were no persons present desiring to speak in favor ! ;or in opposition. I B !Mr. Thornton explained that Harding Street has been im- fproved and that the alley is suitable for this zone. I The public hearing was closed at 7:55 P. M. I b :Points discussed were the Master Plan of the downtown i :area; that it would not be desirable to have a drive-in res- ; !taurant or service station at that location and should be a I !service store; that the property is adjacent to two C-2 : ;zoned lots owned by the applicant and granting this request: :would give him 100 feet of C-2 property fronting on Hard- : iing Street with an alley in the rear; the parking require- i jments; changing the zoning requirements after the Master : ;Plan is adopted. !The Planning Director pointed out that the preliminary i :General Plan for the City indicates that it will go to Com- : imercial zoning in that area and since the property is un- : jdeveloped it would be restrictive to hold off zoning this pro!! :perty until the ordinance is rewritten. Since the property !is located in the center of the block, it would not have a : :major detrimental effect on this area. de stated that he i I I I I @ 1 I I I I I I * t I 9 I I I I I I I I I I I I t 4 I I I I # B I I I I I I I I I * I I I I 1 I I I I 0 I B 8 B I I I 9 I 0 I I I B . I ic t b I * * i. The property is adjacent to other C-2 property. : i 2. The DMJM preliminary Master Plan study indicateb !commercial use for this property. I I I I I 1 I The following resolution was presented ! I I t I I I (b) CONDITIONAL USE PEtCMIT - To allow overnight i : camping at FOX'S Snug darbor on the Southerly side of i Harrison Street, between the U. S. 101 Freeway and Adami :Street. Applicants: Francis John Fox and Virginia E. Foxi I :Secretary Grant certified that proper notice was given to i the property owners in the area and read the application i i and signatures of owners of adjacent property approving ; : this conditional use permit. Also read was a letter from i : Mr. Fox which was a part of the application, i There was no other correspondence on this matter. i The Commission discussed giving a copy of the Planning ! : Director's report to the applicant and the Chairman stated I i that he felt the applicant should have a copy of the report : : before the meeting. : The Chairman announced the Commission would now hear i i from the applicant or any others in favor of this request. : MA F. J. FOX, 4215 Harrison Street, stated that he had I : looked over the report and feels he could accomaercdatfb.30 i familes. On past performances they have accommodated : : 120 people comfortably. ile explained that his property is i zoned R-T and that he leases all of the property in that i i area that is zoned A-T, a portion being leased from the ; : City until they make a park there. He did not ask for overt i night camping on the Lueders property as the former Mrs.; : Lueders wishes to sell it. He stated that in view of the : i proposed Master Plan he had asked for a 5 year time limi6 : as he plans to build a yacht type clubhouse on his property{ i de explained that his leases are for more than two years : : and that he plans to blacktop 154 feet near the water and i i to have more toilet facilities. He also stated that the pro-: : perty has been torn up because of the sewer line going i i through there. i The Building Inspector explained that the Health Depart- : ment has to see that electrical and toilet facilities meet i 1 the requirements of the State of California who are very : i strict. Anything on wheels comes under mobile homes i : and is governed by the State. The Planning Director reported that he had checked with : i the State and the first step is for the applicant to get ap- i : proval of the conditional use permit from the City and the? I approach the St ate. I I I I I I I I I I I * I 8 I I I I b I t I 1 1 I $ I I I I I I t I I I I I $ I 1 I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I * I I I 1 When considering ordinances from the State or the City, i : the ordinance which is the more restrictive shall apply. I I I I I : The Chairman asked for those in opposition to speak. '::;It I' 1 I :::;:i ; No one present spoke in opposition to this request. I :*#I:, I l;;161 I I 111'I( 1 I !at!*! -11-1- 1 I I I I I The public hearing was closed at 8:59 Po M. ! I Points discussed were that overnight camping should be : kept to campsters and that Mr. Fox has had a problem : i with persons wanting to stay overnight; that a 2 year lease :would be too limited for Mr. Fox to invest much money ; i for improvements. * I ! I After further discussion, a motion was made to adopt I I I : Ltesolution No. 393 granting a conditional use permit for : i overnight camping for the following reasons: I I t I t I I I I 1. This is a logical extension of the tourist and recre4- I 2. There was ho public opposition stated. I I 3. That the requested use will be compatible with othet i tional facilities this area presently enjoys. i uses in the area. ;AND that this conditional use permit be granted with the I I I 1 I t I I I I I I following conditions and limitations: I I I I I 1 I I I 1. Camping spaces shall be a minimum of twenty feet i I 2. Upon completion of the sewer line serving this pro! I (b) Uithin ninety days cause to be constructed and i I 3. Between the hours of thirty minutes after sunset, i :wide and forty feet deep and shall all be located within : !fifty feet of the water's edge to provide overnight camping I :facilities for not more than 30 families. iperty, the applicant shall: I I I I I t I I (a) Immediately hook up all existing toilet facilitiesi i connected to the sewer toilet facilities. I : and the hour of 8: 00 A. M, , the following day, no person : ishall operate a boat towing any kind of aquaplane; no per- i :son shall operate a boat at speeds in excess of five miles : i an hour; no person shall operate a boat that is not display- i i ing running lights as approved by the Coast Guard for that : ;class of boat. the subject property for more than three consecutive night$ :or portions thereof. 5. Conditional Use Permit shall be limited to a period: :of three years to allow for re-examination of the facts : with regard to the General Plan at that time. I I i ed on the property. The only camping use to be made shalf :be by persons occupying campers, trailers or self-propel-! :led mobile homes. I I !Planning Commission Resolution No. 393. A RESGLU- :Palmateer :TION GRANTING A CONDITImAL USE PEdMIT CN PiW-!Grant iPE&TY AT FOX'S SNUG HAi3BOR GN THE SCUTHE8LY Sutherland :SIDE CF HAdRISGN STLZEET, BETUEEN THE U, So 101 !Lamb jFREEM AY AND ADAMS STREET, was adopted by title onlgMcComas :and further reading waived. :Freistadt 1 I I I I 4. No camping vehicle shall be allowed to remain on i I I I I 6. No tents shall be permitted to be erected or occupi-! I 8 I I :OLD BUSINESS: I I I 1 I I I I I (a) Discussion on:z&g in County Southeast of Carls- i !bad. Mr. Clayne E. Munk, Senior Planner, San Diego i :County Planning Department presented a map of proposed : !zoning for area in the County Southeast of Carlsbad encomj !passed within the Carlsbad Municipal hater District area : :to the Batiquitos Lagoon, from the ocean to the Carlsbad :daceway. He explained that this area is cubrently I I I I I I I I I I I ! ! I I I '\ .\ I I I I b' I I \ '% I 4 . * - c:. ... I b, '\ ' I I . I b " I Name I I * : of * Member ;""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""-"~""""" unzoned and they held a meeting at the Carlsbad Municipag i tbater District and proposed having an A- 1 (8) zone. The i : property owners objected and organized a committee and i proposed zoning for the area. This was reviewed by the i : staff and they came up with a compromise as shown on ; I the map and felt this is a good plan. He explained that { ; the A- 1 (8) zone would be an acceptable zone as it allows : i crops of all kinds and some livestock, but no poultry busi: i ness and would be an interim use, E-1 a) would be an : ; Estate Type zone. 3-4 is the County L s multiple family I i zone which they propose for property along the ocean for : ; apartments, etc. With a special use permit this allows i : trailers, motels and hotels. They are currently working : ! on a luxury type trailer park but feel the property along i the ocean may become too valuable for trailer parks. & I (8) permits unlimited poultry, livestock with use permits i- :-- ; conditions. The proposed I'M" zoning at the Palomar : Airport taking in property across from the City's "M" I i They had more requests for commercial but considered ! : this by the amount of traffic and future major streets. I i They proposed C zone at the intersection of Palomar Air-! : port Road and El Camino ,Iteal, and a small section on the! I South side of Palomar Airport Road West of I31 Camino i : Xeal at Kobert Kelly's trailer park where they expect a : i request soon by the owners for a three acre shopping i i center. They also proposed a C zone in La Costa for a : ; shopping center. i Mr. Munk stated they wanted this Commission to see this : before taking it before the San Diego County Planning Goa- : mission and the Board of Supervisors as they felt it was i4 i the interests of the County and City to have this property : : zoned, and would like a letter from this Commission on I how it fits in with the City's plans for zoning. DMJM is ; : making a study for a general plan for the area, however, i i this is a precise zoning plan. 1 The Chairman asked if they could have a map to study and! : compare with the DMJM map and Mr. Munk agreed to i : The public hearing on this precise plan will not be before : I 6 weeks or 2 months. Mr. Munk reported that 75% of the : : County is still unzoned but felt that property along the i i coast should be zoned. He explained that uses may come i I in and destroy the area and have detrimental effect on the ; ; City. I (b) Car sales in service stations was discussed and : the Commission agreed that with the services of the Plan-: i ning Director the Commission could proceed to estahlish i the uses to be permitted in the Commercial and "Ml'zones: .a zone on El Camino Real. I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I have a black and white map sent up to the Commission. I I I I I I * 1 I I t I I (c) City Engineer certified approval of the final map i i of Bonita Valley Subdivision. I I : The Chairman asked that the City Engineer be instructed that it was necessary to have the letter before the Chair- ! man and the Secretary sign the final map but that it need ; i not be brought before the entire Commission. I NEW BUSINESS: I I * I I I * I I I I I I 4 I I I I I I I (a) Lake Calaveras, The Planning Director explained i I the areas shown on the map were recommended by the : ; Parks and Recreation for development around the lake and: that he would go out there as soon as the weather permits.: I I 1 I I * I I I I I I I I I I ! I I I I I I 1 I I + I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 8 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I * I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I 8 I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I 1 8 I I I I I I 8 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 * I I I I I I Ma. ED HUMMEL explained that there are 251.53 acres owned by the City ar_d the Ldse is z2pro::imately 80 acres: When the lake is full there would be about 100 acres of water. They wished to obtain and plant pine trees and doi a precise plan for each of these areas. They propose to ; have a rifle and pistol range; a golf range; a ball park l (for amateurs); picnic grounds, camping; and youth campf I MRS. BETTY VvOLLRICH, reported that there is good water and fishing there and they would like to open this I up for one day a week. Most of the owners of property : between Lake Calaveras and El Camino Real are willing i to give 102' right of way. It is necessary to have the : Planning Commission's approval of this. There are old i wells there similar to those in San Luis Rey. They used : to pump water from San Luis Rey in and recently have i been pumping surplus water from the CM-WD in it. They : need to maintain the San Luis i3ey water rights for mix- i ing the water in. She reported that the Police Depart- : ment needs a pistol range and the Sportman's club need I a skeet range and a place to fish. She reported that the i State will stock the lake with warm water fish, free of ; charge, and will charge for trout fishing. Many youth I groups want primitive camping. MR. HUMMEL stated that they plan to plant many native I plants and they have maps from the Soil Conservation i from Fallbrook and will have themat the next meeting. : I After €urther discussion, the Commission agreed that ; they would like for the Planning Director and the Engi- I neering Department to study the area and make reports : at the meeting on May 11, 1965. I I Commissioner McComas reported that he had attended a San Diego County Congress meeting on April 5, 1965, i and their next meeting would be on architectural control ; and precise planning on May 7, 1965, at Hotel Del Coro- i nado. I * The Planning Director reported that he was meeting with i Paul Neal on April 20, 1965, and the Commission exprest sed a desire to meet with him also, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I ADJOUdNMENT: By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 10:58 i P.M. to Tuesday, April 20, 1965, at 1:00 o'clock P. M. i to meet with Paul Neal to review his written report. Respectfully submitted, I 1 I I I I * I DOROTklY M, SOUSA I I Recording Secretary I I I I I I I I I I !