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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1966-04-12; Planning Commission; Minutes,.~ - .I " .. . .. , . " I I - 1 't8.S \8' ,\8 I : CITY OF CARLSr"'I I I '8, '*\.",, '\ '\\'\, I i Date of Meeting: April 12, 1966 i Name \8 '*$\ '8,"~ I : Time of Meeting: 7:30 P, 14. : of '\$'%'\ '8, '$*, : Place of bleeting: Counci 1 Chambers fb%\ 4\4+ f : Member $%'s"g',~~$",o'\.; ~""""~"""""""-~"""~~"-""""""""""~"""~"~"""~"~~""""""" "".I"" I I i::1rr ! ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioner Sutherland!, ,:I::: ;ll*lfi i filunn, Palmateer, i4cComas and Lamb. Commissioner ; *:::;I i Freistadt adas present at 7:40 P.E.1. Commissioner : :;::;; 1 bIcCarthy was absent. Also present were City :4::;1 I 1: 8 Il:iii i Attorney Wilson, Pianning Director Schoell , I !illtl I Assistant Planner Johnstoh and Building Inspecto{ :I I::: i Osburn. t I ,it::; I I I ::p:: :::::: APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Sutherland : : $ I i I ; Munn I :x;)(: ; : i (a) EelinUtes of the regular meeting of March 22, i Palmateer i : 4 : : 1966, were approved as submitted. McComas I ; i xf ; : I i Lamb :x1 :d : : I I ;;It:: 4 I 1::::: I I :+:: ii:::: i (a) Council Action on Planning ilatters was noted!. I:':;: I I I :$:: i (b) City fllanager - re: Harbor Report presentatihn. ;I1 11 1:41: i According to the contract between the City and ; ::i:t' I /:: : WIJi4, one presentation woul d be made by Di,IJ1!! on :;I:;: I the Harbor Report, and it was the decision of thei i:!::; : Council that the presentation by D;lJivl should be ; :::i:: I' made at a Planning Commission meeting, and that i :i4:: :$:: ; set for the presentation in order that they can i I::::: :'I 11 i attend. I :::::: 1) ::;::; i Chairman NcComas asked that this matter be taken :::;:; ::::;: 11 : up under Ides.! Business. I I :::;,I I ::;I:: (c) Mort and Ruth A. Eondy - re: Growing need i :@;:;; : for increased commercial development east of the i ::I::: i freeway, along Pi0 Pica Drive. Average 28,500 ; ::;I:: : cars daily on Route 5 Freeway through Carlsbad i ::;;I; ::;!:! : in 1965. I l:,l*l * ii:iIi 1 Commissioner Freistadt was present at 7:40 'P.M. :,::I: I ;:::I; i The Chairman thanked blr. Bondy for his interest 1:;I:I IIiiii : in the City. I 0It;l; I :::::; i ORAL COI4MUN I CAT I ON: I :I It ;::;I; I /;;:I I I I: t There were no oral communications. I ;;!!!! 4 f ;iiiIi ; PUBLIC HEARINGS: I :-::: I- I I ::::I; i (a) RECLASSIFICATION, continued. Applicants: I ::::I: I Ill I : Kamar Construction Co. 1:;t1; I f I ;I:;:; ;;I::: I (b) PRECISE PLAN, continued - Applicants: I t:;1;1 I :I;::: i Planning Commission Resolution No. 426. I I 1';::: I 3 1 I :::: i TENTATIVE SUSDIVISION MAP, continued - LAGUNA I :I::;: 81; I I :*fill : RIVIERA SUBDIVISION. I ':::I; I I ;::;:; i Letter dated April 12, 1966, from Jerry L. Rom- I ;lilt@ ;;:II; ::: : botis, President of Kamar Construction Co., Inc. : I::::, : requesting continuance of the above i terns so tha~ ::;:; ::*:;,, t 'i, : studies which effect matters outside of this sub-j i:::;: division may be brought to a conclusion. I I 1::::: i (9) VARIANCE - To Consider a reduction in lot I ::;:;: ; width from 60' to 57.50' on Parcels A and B and i I to 57.52' on Parcel C; and reduction in lot area ; I from 7500 sq. ft. to 7186.4 sq. ft. on Parce7 A; i to 7116.5 sq. ft. on Parcel 3; a1lt.i to 6488.1 sq. ; ::;:;I i Elinu,tcs of: p;.Af.!Mif.;G C(j;(i:]?SSIO$j I I '\ ', ', '8\, '8,:,, 1 '8, '\ ', 8 i 1 1 I I WRITTEN COMiNl4ICATIONS: I I - i members of the Council be notified as to the date: 11 I t I I I 6 (l((I( I I I I I I I I I I 1 r I I I I I I I 4 I I I I I I I@ :; I I I I I I 1 I ;:I:;: 1::::; :::::: (81 :!:;;; :t I I I :;;:;; I I (#II,I I I 1 I;::;: I I :::;i: I I ::;i:: I I I j;r:rI I I I I 1 I 1 I I I I I;;:;: I ::;::: I I 8 1 I -. I' . ,., I I I I y\,", ,. 8 '8 ''8 8,'. I I I I -2- N a me "8 '.$* \$>, I : of '8 '+$s,+,;~+ 4$+, ' ! I : Member \$?$$?,.p$ ~4.4 I I !::I1 1 ;.I: !!:;:: I \X' * I 1 8, 8, X\ ', ', I I I I I \, ',, 8, ' ' I I '\ '.,> ~"""""""~"""""""""--""""""""""""""~""""".~""""""""" ""x"" I I :::I:; jft. on Parcel C, located on the Ncrtherly side of: :i[)i: jStratford Lane at Easterly Terminus. Applicants:! ,:I::: :Arthur ii. Ennis and ijlorene E. Batchelder. I 'I::;: !Notice of hearing was read. Secretary Palmateer I 1::~81 16 !certified that notices of the public hearing were: :::;:; (sent to the property owners in the area and then ::11:1 i read the application. Reading of the metes and : I;:::: : bounds legal description was waived with the ap- :;:I;: ;I:;:: I proval of the City Attorney. I I 11:;1; I ::::I: IlI i There wc!re no written communi cations. I 8 I::::; :The Planning Director gave a report of the facts ::po I I*#I :resulting from staff investigation. He stated t ;:I:;: 1::::: :that by relocating th.e garage and lath house I !::I:: ithere could be an 18' adjustment of the north pro4 :;I; tperty line and the minimum 7500 sq. ft. lot area !!:I:; ::pi: requirement could be met. I I ;;I 1; I 1 I :4;;; !The Chairman announced the Commission woutd now J ;I::!! :hear from the applicants or their representative :;p:: iand any others desiring to speak in favor of thest I::::: I variances. I:: I:, I lb;:; I I I I ::;;fl ::;::; i DO14 HOLLY, 2965 Roosevelt St., Licensed Surveyor,! ::: : Pepresenting the owners indicated there are 3 I I ::I IIIi/i i service stub outs to these lots for se'wetr and I ::diii :water extensions. Nhen the 6tmers see ahfs they ::I::; i are of the apfnian thig mhanis the're edir, be,a clivi; :::!:I i sion of the lots, He stated that City Hall ha$ ll'l;: ;::;;; : these matters on record on StPatford Lane, and .ti: 4;il: I there will be more lots split applied ,for. One I ii!::l i lot split was on the Efirris and Batchelder properti :;::it :where they dedicated property for street rfght off :;1:4: :;:::I *I iway on Knorvles Ave. The owners were very specific: ;I:::: i and definite in the establishment of the. rear loti t:;lol i:: :I: : line, and he is an engineer, pointed out the sub-: ;:;::: I standard area. t I ;I:::: 1 I ;;:i:: i The Chairman questioned the value of the building$ ::::;I 11;: r ;at the rear lot line and whether they would have I :;I :I:: !sufficient area if the rear lot line was moved : ::;I:: i over. 4 I *@I:;; I 1 I I ::i:;: Commissioner Fresitadt questioned whether it was i +;:; : common practice that the Engineering Department i ::I::: ::!!;: I provide all stub outs before the streets are im- ; :::::: 'proved so the streets will not have to be dis- f ':::ii [ turbed. I I I :::;:: I I ::;;:: : comments to make and Mr. Geyer stated that he had! 1 tf i:;; 8: i none. ::;: 11 1:; I I :ii:; !The Planning Director pointed out that no commit-! :::,:I It I ments are made by the City when they install the @*I:;; :;;I t I ;::::I ;@I::: I :::;:; i i4R. HOLLY stated that the City was considering ! i there would be 3 lots there with two stub outs i :p:i; : for the 120 feet lots. He stated that he has a I ;:::i: I I 8 ::::;: ::::I: ;::i:: I@ I I ::;;:: I I :::;I* I ;:;:i: I i ::;:;: I I ::;:;: I I 1 ::;i;: I I I 1 I::*:: I I I I 1:;::: I I 1 I I:::;: I I I I :;;:': I I I I :I!::: l,!l!l I I I I I I 0 I I * I I 'I I I I I* I I 11 The Chai rrnan asked Mr. Dick Geyer if he had any I !!::!I 11 * I I I stubs. I I I ;8l(l: copy of the plans of services available. I ! The Chairman asked if there were any persons pre-j : sent desiring to s,peak in opposition. : No one present spoke in opposition. I 1 I 11 I I ,- /- _- I I - I' 1 I \\ ', .*, '8 '\ *\ I I I \* '* '. I I '. '., '-, , * ' I I ,\ <\* I I I \ ', '* '\ '88',, I I I ', \ '\ 8 I I I -3- i Na me 'b, '\$. b, .$A i I : of ''+ '$8 ' '*'\, i I : Member '?$@,.."2'%%8, I : """_""~__"_"_"""""""~" """"" d """"C "-"""-""""-:"""""""-~?~~:.~-~"~-~ I I 1:11#1 I :;:::: i The public hearing was closed at 8:07 P.H. I I ::;::: 1 I ;I1 I I 1':;;: I Points discussed were the lot widths of the pro- : :::t/ : perties facing on Stratford Lane and that if I I 01) :;1:q : this is granted will be setting a precedence for { :;;I:: i others on that street. . ;:;:;: I I i::!:: I I I d:ll; I1 : Commissioner Lamb stated that he is in favor of i ::;::I I having sme 60' lots and some with larger widths,! ::'::: :::::: : but is opposed to 45 or 50' lot widths. I I :::; 1 :;!!I1 I I t I ', '\.d I I 1 11 I I I l:;l&l I I I ; Commissioner Freistadt questioned whether the @I#;I: 1 :;;;:I i Ennis and Batchelders would be coming in later toil i::::; i split their remaining property facing on Knowles i l;t~ll lb!:;: : Avenue. I I I I::I: : The Planning Director stated that he bad not I ::: I:I I I:;::: i talked to the owners but had contacted Mr. Holly I i::::: : regarding this matter. I I :::;;: I I :::::I ! The reduction in lot area was discussed and the :::::; i moving of the two structures in order to move the! :::::I :::;I I: : rear boundary line over in order to have the I I ;::I:: i required amount of lot area. The Commission I I 1::::: could grant a portion of the variance and deny : :'I::: 1:;8#1 : part of the request, or grant it subject to the I :II:I: i condition that they comply with the adjustment i $:!: ; of lot line for adequate lot area. I i After further discussion, a motion was made to iSutherlan68i :x: i ! i continue this hearing for two weeks to allow b!r. ji4unn I i !Xi : : : Holly time to contact the owners regarding the : Palmateer I :x: XI : 1: : i possibility of modification of their request. I idlccomas i I :x: i i *s :' ;:I::: I I I I 81) I I I :::;:i :::$I I I I + I I : Lamb : : :xi ; I I i Freistadt i I !xi 8: I :!!:;I I: I The Chairman re-opened the public hearing and I p::;: i continued it to the next regular meeting of the i ::;!:I : Planning Commissioll for modification of this I 1::::: request. I 1:::;: I I :::::: i OLD BUSINESS: I I :I:::, I -1 i (a) Proposed Plan to widen Tamarack Ave. I I ::I 1:: :Llemorandum dated April 12, 1966, from the Joint :::I:: :::I;: i Committee of the Parks and Recreation Commission I @*I:;: ; and Planning Commission - re: Proposed plan to I 11 ::;:I! i widen Tamarack Avenue from Adams Street to Jeff- I I::::i t1;;:1 i erson Street, suggesting the following alterna- : ;:-:I : tives: (1) Initial consideration should be to i I::,' jI1,l' place the proposed no%khe?;ly; r$giit+ Gf:wayi:bouridar$ :::::I 4:;:; : sufficiently to the south to position the curb ; ::I I 11 I: :with no parking allowed along both sides of I :;::I! ! Tamarack from Adams to the Freeway would enable I 1:;::; : the trees to be saved. (2) Another alternative :;I::: :;::if i is to bend the new centerline of Tanlarack south- : ::!::! : erly enough to save the trees. They felt a slight i ::I ;.: : i: i curve would not jeopardize safety. I I a:;:;: 11 I ::;:: I I ::/I ! i study of Tamarack made by the Engineering Depart-: :;1:1: :ment and stated that if the curb line is moved i :I:::; ;I::!; i south it will be creating problems as there is an: ;:::I; :existing new subdivision east of Adams, with curb; :::::; and widewalks already installed and it would also! I:: I:::;l 0:; :go through an island of the service station. He : I:;:;: I ::I:;: I I 1:::;: I I I ::::i: I :;;llI I ::I::: I I I :::::: I' I I 1:;::; I ::;::: I I 1 I 11 I I I I I I :i[i;: I line south of the trees. This in combination I :I:; I I I I I Mr. Johnston presented a map of the alignment I I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I (I)(() I ! !Il!l! I _-e I I I I 4 I * I I I I - I '\'.8 \I. ,\\ " I I \\ ',,",, '., ""\\ + I I " 8' '\ '.\'\,'\\ 1 '\\ ',, '\ ' \ ' I Name '\, \'&, '.,''& I I I - LC - I I I I ; of '$\$!+, '8 8$$ : I : Member ~QL\O,&?~\ ?~,$y?%', I I ::;:;; ::::I: iiili: 11 i::::: 11 I I I ::;::; ~""""""""""""""-"""""""""""""""""--"--"---"~"""-"-"--"" ""7""J Ill;: I stated the Engineering Department made a study i !;::;: : regarding leaving the trees as a median, however,: lll;: i it would be creating a traffic visibility hazard i ; at the intersection at the overpass. He stated i that he and the Planning Director and i4r. Thorntdn I spent an afternoon trying to align the street in : :: 1::;: 18 i such a way as to save the trees. I ::::;; 1:p:: i The Building Inspector pointed out that if there I :y:;: are 4 moving lanes of traffic at the Tamarack I I ;:,:a1 : overcrossing there will be requests for commer- :::::: i cia1 &zoning at this corner and if the City is ::::I' I I:;#:: : going to develop the harbor the traffic will be ;;;::: :::I:: going down Tamarack to get to the harbor and the i :;11;: : beach. I I 11:::: I /:::I4 I I It : I4r. Johnston commented on the tremendous amount : :I:::: :::::: i of traffic on Tamarack during the summer now, and: ';:@I; : that from a safety standpoint it is very necessav :;;::I ::;#:I 81 i thinking of just today or 5 years from now, but : ;:#:I; : are planning for 15 years. I I I I:' 1::: I 1$i: ! Commissioner Sutherland stated that he did not I :;I 4: ! believe the trees could be saved and that the I :lip; I ,:,Ill : Parks and Recreation Committee should have a meet: ::::;: i ing with the Engineering Department and work this! :;I::: : matter out now. I ::it:: 1 I :::::: I :l;;:: : The Building Inspector suggested that they I ;I ;I:: i start planning for the future now and plant trees; :::::I ;:I::: i further back from the street rights of way. I I I :::::: :::I;: i>lr. Johnston stated they could leave a berm along; :I;I:: 1 there and plant the trees further back. I :I;::: I I:!;:: ! Mr. Sutherland pointed out the need for a new i::::: properly implemented tree planting plan that is i ::::t; 1 not impossible to paintain and service. I I iiiiii I i:;::: lal;q i k?r. Johnston called attention to the fact the I I ;: J;:: i Engineering Department did not receive a copy of i I:::;; I1 i the report until late that afternoon. 1 I ;:::I; I ;::':; i The Chairman asked the Committees meet with the :::i:: 1::1:; : Enginepring Department and Planning Department ; i::::; i $0 study this matter further. 1 I ::I::; i ;:::;: i (I) BgeLc Vista Lagoon Committee. Commissioner i :::;;: : Palmateer reported that the commrttee asked for ; ;::1:1 :*l#a: i state help regarding the preservation of the 8 1:;::: 11 41; : Bucna Vista lagoon as a state park and presented i ;::a 1::; and read a framed resolution from Assemblyman i :I:::; :Hale Ashcraft passed by the House of Representa- ; :;::;; :;~lll i tives directing the Department of Parks and Recre; :;+: i ation to undertake a study to determine the I :;I::: : feasibility of establishing a state park at Buena! ;l:l:@ Vista Lagoon, and to comply with the provisions of ;::::: ;I:::: : the Cameron-Unruh Beach, Park, Recreational, and i i Historical Facilities Bond Act of 1964. Commiss-: : ioner Palrnateer stated that he was receiving many! letters and bad received 100 on Monday as the i i result of a campaign by Nature Conservancy from : : Pasadena, Laguna Beach, Santa Ana and cities out I i of the state from organizations who endorse this ; : project. The next step will be to keep in contac! i with the State Park and Recreation Department. : I I I I 1 1) I I 1 i to have the street widened. The staff is not :;;I!! I I 11111( I 1 I I i Ill I I I I I I I I I I I &I i I I I I I I ! 1 I I I I I - '\* I I "8s,'8t)8,8 8, ,, 8, \8 '. \8 t I i N a me 's, ''$& ' 't,, '84 .$+ i I I : of '$3)@8,48,4* i I I 8' I - I -5- I 8 ', '\ '8,'\, I I I I 8.' ', X\ '\ t I :"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""-~""""""""" : Member +$$j8$-$@84 "","" I ;:ll:l i The Planning Director stated'they are working on i ;:;;;; : presentation material. ;;:;;: I I ::;::: I 1*l:8; ::;::I i:II:; i and Telephone Co. be contacted regarding sending : ;: ::;; :a flyer or letter with their bills on the preser-{ ;:::;: i vation of the Buena Vista Lagoon as a State Park.: 1;:::: I !:::I@ iCommissioner Lamb stated that he would like to ! 1;1*:: ;:::;; : see some roadside rests similar to those at I ;:;::: i Batiquitos. Ne suggested someone check with the I State Division of Highways as he was of the I I i::;:; I ;::::: 11 i widening of the freeways and i f there are small i ;:l;8; :.portions of property left they put in roadside i :;::I: i rest stations and maintain them. I ;::;;; I 0 I :;;::; 1*1111 i Commissioner Palmateer stated that at the next i iiii:: :meeting they will try to formulate some policy i ;:::I; i of what they should do now. I l:;8#, I 1 I :;;::: :;;I;, @I i The Planning Director asked the Commission to ca1) :::::: : his Secretary for a list of those persons to write :;x::; i urging their support for the Ouena Vista Lagoon! :*pi: i for a state park. He stated that Torrey Pines : 7 :::::: :State Park started out with a similar reso1ution.i I;;:!! I I :;:I*; ! (c) R-T "Rec". Commissioner Lamb inquired regard! :;;;;; i ing this matter going before the Council. I :;;:I; I :i:;i; I :t::;: I The Planning Director suggested that now the Gen-I l;:l*l : era1 Plan is nearing completion, this would be a ; ;:I::: :l'::: i good time to make study of all R-T areas. ;::::: a I ilii:i t 1;;o: (a) The Small Craft Harbor Meeting. There was I , :;:: ;::;I: i discussion on the report and it was the consensus: :!X:!: :of the Commission that they would have a couple : :::::: ! of meetings to discuss and study the report among! ::;I:: : themselves and the staff with a DFIJM representative :; 111 :::::I I I 'Ill) i The Planning Director called attention to the I I i::::: I :::::: : distribution of the 100 reports and suggested a i I;;l:l i $10.00 deposit on them for one week and stated I :;I:;; : that some of them would be distributkd to the : I library. He felt that it should be publicized { i that reports are available. I a ::;I:: I I ;@l:l; I ;:;;:; i The Commission discussed a meeting date for the i ;::::; : study session. I I ;I:#:# :i:;:: 1 I 44;; : The Recording Secretary was asked to send a memo-! ::I:;! i randum to the Gas and Electrtc Company regarding : #:::I ::;I:: ! this meeting. I I ::;!Ii I I :I1 I 1 1:;::; : ADJOURNMENT: i By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at ! f @8I:l; '::I:: : 9:21 P.M. to Friday, April 22, 1956, at 2:OO P.M.! :"##I ;::I:; i in the Council Chambers, to discuss the Small I I ;::;:; : Craft Harbor report of the City. * 6 ;::;:: 1 ;:::I; I I @*I(( I I :::;:I I :,:::I I 1 :!i:i: ;8l;l: i DORm. OSBURN 1 I I *::l:l :~llI; : Recording .Secretary I I:;:;# I I ;;:::: :; 91;:;: $ I ::;::: I I I I ;::~ll I:;::, I I I :;;:I: I I I I I It was suggested that the Gas and Electric Co. 11 I I ii::;: 11;: opinion that when they buy property for the I 11 I t In I 01 ;: I I I I I I I I i NE14 BUSI?.jESS: 8 l(1Il I I I I)** - I present before holding a meeting at the school. : ;:!!;! 8 ii!i:l #I I :; I,;!;: I@ I t I I I :;;:;: I I ;;:::: I I I I 11 Respectfully submitted, I I is * I f4LA"P.t- I I I I I 1 I t I I Ill) el; ! :!I:::