Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout1966-04-26; Planning Commission; MinutesI I I‘ ,.., *‘. I I I I I I I I t ’ ‘\ 8.4 I s i CITY OF CARLSBAD I 8\ ’, ’, ‘, ’8, ’, \, ’\ \\ \, ‘. ’*, \ blinutes of: PLRMNIidG co3;~IIssIi)i;J I I ’8, ’%, ‘., 8\, ’,,‘,, I +Lo\+ $+8 : I i::;:; @I* : Date of i4eet.i ng : April 26, 19S6 N a me ’8, ‘\%, ’\, \$>, i i Time of i’lecting: 7:30 P.i.1. : of ‘S(?+, ‘ %*, I I ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, I t:: : P1 ace of i*lec.ti rig : Cou9c.i 1 Chambers I Member ~$fJ*p‘.~~p\,o~, )“““”“““““-I-””- “_“”””“”””_””“”“””””””““”..“””””“”“”~ ”““”- I I 9 lq 1::::: I :;;::: I I I :::;:I I :::I:: I : Smith i : : : :xi I I I McCarthy I : : :x: I i Lamb ;x: :i : : I : Freistadt: : i xi : : I Palmateer, i.4cComas , JcCarthy, Lamb and Freistadt.! II,;I’ Commissioner Sutherland .was absent. Also present: !:I::: were City Attorney CJilson, Planning Director i Sshoell, Building Inspector Osburn, Ass’t City i :::::I : Enginzer Thornton and City danager John Namaux. :::::: 11 I APPROVAL OF MINUTES: 4 I :::::: i (a) Jinutes of the regular meeting of April 12, Palmateer: :xi % i I i 19GG, were approved as submitted. : 1,fcComas : I : x: I 11 I 00 I1 I I I 111 I I I I * 1:‘ I1 f l*!RITTEi; COi4l~~U!4ICATIONS: : (a) Council Action on Planning :‘.tatters was noted.: I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I I I 1 I I L I I * I I I 1 I I I 1 I I I I I I I i ORAL COi4NUNICATIOi4S: 1 I i Chairman I4cComas welconed Mr. Rollin iyl. Smith I as a nen member of the Planning Commission. : PUBLIC HEARINGS: i (a) RECLASSIFICATIOii, continued. Applicants: : Kanar Ccnstruction Co. i (b) PRECISE PLAN, continued - Applicants: i Planning Comt;lission Resolution P10. 426. i TEdTATIVE SUBDIVISION AAP, continued - LAGUNA : RIVIERA SUEDIVISION. : Letter dated April 25, 1956, from Jerry L. i Romhotis of Kamar Construction Co., requesting i i cGntinuance of the above i tems until studies ; Smith F I 1 I I I I I I I I : are concluded in regard to the elementary school r. : site on this property. I I i A motion was made to continue these hearings. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I The Chairman explained this hearing was continued! : from the last meeting in order for Ilr. Holly to i i contact the property owndrs regarding the moving ; ; of the rear lot line to modify the request for : i reduction in lot area, and asked if the applicant: : or his representative and any others wished to i i speak in favor of Wese variances. I I i MR. HARRY PRIGG, 690 Elm Ave. stated he represent; : present at the last meeting. The property is in i : themselves to stub out 3 different service connecF- 0 I I / 1 b ed the owners and Geyer Real Estate, and vias not : :i::;; :I:# 1:;I;l a 7500 sq. ft. zone and the City took it upon I I I::::: 11:1: ions and required that 19 ft. be taken off their : 11 l;4:: i::;:; I i::::: I I l@::l: I I I ;:h:l I 1;;::; I I i:ll;; I I :!!l!l ::Il I I I I I I 1 I I I I I r r I 1' I I 1 I I I I I I s, ', '\, '\ '\ '8, I I I 8,' '\, '\ '\ '\ '' I I -2- I 8 ' '\ '\,'*, I I : of 'IS a'\ '\ \p, I ................................................. -"":.""J I I I i::::: i property on Knowles for street dedication. The i 1:::;: : owners feel this might be a multiple zone in the i iI:;;i I future and it w uld be .better to have the 140 d:;ll ;::I:: : feet deep IO* ,al knowlei t'dther than to dove the [ 4:p; i line back from Stt-atfohh Lane. He pointed out, : ; there are :npnj lots though exclusive areas such i as the SeaCreSt Estates which have approximately : : the same depth as being requested. I I : The o:'lner of the property did not request the culi i de-sac and there were no objections raised from : : the property owners in the area against these I i variances. The owners of the property reques tingi I these variances have been contacted and they do : , \, '\ \ ' ' I I I 8, '8 ' \ I I / Na me '8 '\!$$, \, +$), / I : Member '?de\ $@.$\d@ 9'4 +&,, '\ '8.p' I I I I 1, not wish to move the depth of the lot line. The Chairman asked if there were any persons I I I I 6 I I I 1 I I I I I I i wishing to speak in opposition. i No one spoke in opposition. I I /;::: I I i;:::: !The public hearing was closed at 7:58 P.I.1. # I I :::: I I ;i:i;: 11 ! It was pointed out that Commissioners Smith and I:;:;: 8lcCarthy would be ineligible to vote since they : ::;::: :::I:, : Y:CY ~5-t r;rece~t at the beginning of the public i :I1 lh;;; hearing on April 12, 1966. I I lll:;: I I :::::I The Planning Director recommended that a 6' min- i :I:::: :;1:11 : imurn side yard be maintained to retain the neigh-! I:::;: borhood standard if the lot width variance is I I :4:;: : granted. I ::::;: 1 ::I::: I :::::: : The Commission discussed the fact this would be i ;::::: 11 ; setting a precedence for other lots in this area.: ::;;:: : The Chairman stated that he saw no reason for :I I I :::::i i concern on the lot size here as he felt this I 1;;1:1 I is a good size lot to take care of and he felt ::;::: ;llll: : the density would not be affected. I 1 :::;;: :;:in: : The Building Inspector pointed out that Nr. I :: :; ;;iii: i Yhitfield, who owns property westerly from this ;11;1; i property was granted a lot split for less than :ii::: : 7,000 sq. ft. in the latter part of 1956. I 11:: I I I ::::;I I :::'I: i The Planning Director explained that the size I::::; Il(III 11 of a lot in a new neighborhood indicates the I ! ::I :;: : amount of land that can be used for landscaping .i.:.: ;:;::: i and open space, and is an established set of I ;llJl; I I:;::, : rules for this area. By cutting down on the lot I :;I:;: width it also cuts down on the side yard setbacks; i:::;: I required. He saw no reason for granting the area: ::;::: : reduction variances since the reason for the re- i I:::,; ::i;:: i quests do not meet the requirements for granting ; ::,I:: : variances. I 1 :;;:;; I ll;lll I ;: I ;::: After further consideration a motion was made to i Smith ;I I ; : :xi adopt Resolution ?io. 432 denying the application ~Palmateer /Xixi i : : as requested for the reason that it doe; not meet: NcComas : : i the requirements necessary for granting a variancCAcCarthy : i : :x i I I a:811a I I I I I I I 1) I I I I I I I I I I I I I 11 11 I *I@ I I : i $ I 1 I i Lamb k; :xi : ; I I :Freistadt I *;xi : I I ;::::I I ::;:I: ;;4:: 1;::;; ::::I, '1; t I I ::::;; I I ,::I,, I I I I :::::: I :::::: I I ;~l:l: I i The City Attorney stated that even though there i 1:;I;l : were a majori t.y of the votes to deqy) this, it i requires a rnajori ty of 4 votes. He po k7ted out ; I that the owners of the property :Iruuld pl.)t, be able! I:;:;: to get building permits 01: these lots until they : : have 4 votes of the Commis5;ion approving this. I I I I I I I I #!!+!I - I 1 '\ \' ' \', I I I I I I I I 8 ' \\' I 1 I I I I b, '\,", '\,'x, ', I I -3- I Na me '\ ',e$, \, \$), I : of ",+ Q', ' .p, I I +?$%.+,+ * ; I """_"""""""""""~."""""""" """..""""" ""- """ ;""""""""" -:*f-;-2--q I I ;:@@:I i i4r. Prigg questioned whether this matter would be: I;:!:; : continued and the Chairman stated this would not i:: 1: I llt::: I be continued. They needed a total vote of four : :::I ;::I:: )I( i and they were only 4 eligible to vote. I 1 1::::: 4 :::;#I i 17 lots - Zone: R-1-7500 located on the South- * t :;;::: : westerly corner of the intersection of Basswood i ::;::; ::::;: Ave. and Valley St. Owners: Harold E. and Ann P.i i:: ::: I Crowe, and John rd. Duty. Subdivider: Bee Cee Co:. #It:;: I ;;::II I I I 1 1; i The Secretary read the application and the lette& /::;I ;:I;;: from the various departments and agencies. He i 4:;;: i certified that notices were sent to the adjacent : ::;::: : property o\:cners of this proposed subdivision and :::I:: i stated there were no other written communications: IIIIt1 ::::I: : for or against this subdivision. I * ::p;i I I I 1::::: 1::1:1 ! The Planning Director stated he did not make a ::;;;: i separate report as it is entailed in the subdi- i -;I;: ::*;I: I vision report. I ::::I; i Ar. Thornton explained the map of the proposed i i!ii)i : subdivision and the block study map made by the i :*:i;: I:: I 11::: : acd the consideration given them. The Engineer- i i;:;:: i ing Department is requesting that a road be re- I ::;;,I '#:I : served for a future street for the extension of i ::::i: i Sandalwood Lane through Lot 13. Ne explained ; :::::: ; the lot to the east has access to Valley through i ::: '(1 ;;: i an easement on other properties from their garage: :::I:: I and has a non-conforming use with two existing i ::Ib 1,;: I dwellings on it that have been there for years. I 1::;:: ; The Engi neeri ng department recommended that I I ;::::; II 4: access to Sandalwood Lane be provided for to re- i ;:::;I 1;;:;: i inove the use of an easernent to Valley Street. 8 I ~ll:l~ The curve of James Drive was the Engineering De- i ::@I;: i partment's recommendation to provide a future I i:::;: + ;::::: : concurrent intersection as James Drive extends i::::: i north of Basswood. I I ;::::! I I:!;;: 11 i4R- DON ilOLLY, Licensed Surveyor, representing : ((I )I:! ;*1:1* ::;::: /iiii ;: '' ' \' '\ '\ 's. '\ '\"\\ \, '\ ' ' I I I ', "4 : Member ~~~b~O~d.~ I I I I Ill TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION 138P - SAP!DALWOOD DALE - I I :::I:: It @I I I I I I ;:I Engineering Department of abutting properties I ::I * I I I the applicants, presented some a1 ternatives for : opening the area. He pointed out that Yr. Jack I II I Ducy is one of the owners, but fs not the sub- ::::;: I ::I::: : divider, and the property is in escrou now. By I *I ::ii:: opening up the street through lot 13 it would. ; :ti;;: ; work a hardship to the subdivider and they are I i required to have an off-site sew2r extended from : : the subdivision boundary to Chestnut. They would! I not be able to afford to develop 15 lots if they : I::;:; ; have to delete one of the lots for the benefit i of others outside the subdivision. The cost I I :;'I;: I wobld make it difficult to develop this property i I::::: : as R-1 property. He presented an alternative I I : design showing access from Chestnut. i He felt the "L" shaped street would confuse : traffic. When Elm Avenue extension is complete : i Chestnut Avenue will be the same type of street 1 allll: : as James Drive as these streets will provide i drainage and sewerage. Elm Avenue will have a :@I 81: : better connection to the downtown area. Mr. i Holly reqtiested that the fins.1 design of the open!- :::::; : ing be left to the City Engineer's discretion. i :!:;:; @I I I *;;I:* I* I I' i::;:: 1;:;:; 4;;;; I I :::#:I I I I ;::::I I t ;::::: I I $8 11; /:;:; ;::#I@ I:;:;, I :;:::: 0::;;1 I i::::: I I I 1 i::::! I I I I ::;::; I I I I ::;::: I I I I ::;::: I I b I ::;:;: I 1 I I::::; I I I I I I I I I I I I ::;::: ::::I; ! I l!!l!l 1 I' .. I I I I f I I I ',,,",), '\, ', 'k I I I \\ \, '. ' ' ' I 1 I , \, ', '- '\,"\ I I -4- I I [ N a me '\\ ''& '. "$>, / I I : of .?&@,; %$, i t 8' I I I ' ,' ',,\' ',&+ ' I :""""""""""""~""""""~-~"-""""""""-"""""""~~""""~""""- : Member ~%\p,.pg~,d.l \e. "",""%I I i:: 1:: : The developer would like to screen off the sub- l;l;te I1 i standard use of the R-2 use in the 8-1 zone. He i :;::It t requested a waiver of improvements on Valley St. : ::I:@# :;l:bl : for lot 17. They did not intend to include lot I ::::I: : 17, which has the non-conforming use, belonging : :;;:I: I #:;I to Mr. Ducy in the subdivision, but the City re- 1 :;:i:; #I i quested this be included for the purpose of the : II)I : legal description. Lots developed in this area I i::::: i -.re s3bject tc 3 $reat expense because of the : : storm drain area. irlr. Holly stated they objected: ;;us:, I to the street extension through Lot 13, and did : ::i:;: :11::: : not want a "panhandle" lot. He felt it is un- I 1::841 :::::: i reasonable to be charged for a drain that will :::::I t not be used at this time, as requested in this i ::I::: I resolution. i MR. LENIS CHASE, one of the proposed'develgpers ::I::: i stated they have extended James Dr. to the bound-: ; ary and lost one lot already. The Commission discussed the following points: I that the developers are concerned with the finan-: I i;l:I' :#,I ; cia1 part of this, howeverg this is more of a I l(I) i matter of planning before the Commission; the I lo i developers acquiring additional property to 1 I:#::: i develop with this subdivision; the drainage and I :;:::: I sewer system; the easement to the house with the ;::::: 1::::: I I ::4;: VI I I I :::;:: i PIR. HOLLY stated that when they developed Grey- I ::::;: :::Ill court Terrace Subdivision they. had an agreement : ::a;;: : with the Trayers who were part of the ownership, ;l;;l@ / and they had more cooperation on that subdivision: 1::::: ::::,I I1 : than they have on this one with the owners. I I :::I:: I I ;::::: : He felt that either one of the proposed streets I 18111; ;:::i: i would be more suitable because of the traffic i ::::;; i problem, and he felt that it would be better to ; ;: J;:; : keep the street more simple rather than to enter I ii:;ii i a cul-de-sac. I I ::;::: I ::::;: i Llr. Thornton explained that part of the land t I :::i:: : belonging to blr. Ducy is being severed and had to; ;:::I; :::::: i be incorporated and part of the subdivision. I I ;::::: I I :::;i: The Chairman pointed out that the applicant is i :;::I: : asking for a waiver of street improvements on i I;;;:' Lot 17 on Valley Street. I ;: 1 I ll::t* #@I I* I 184:; i i4R. HOLLY stated that i4r. Ducy kept the strip to i 1:;I :It::; : the west. Bee Cee Co. wanted to buy this pro- i :I:;:; i perty in the first place but the owner would not : :::::I l:;l;l i sell this as he wanted to keep this for an R-2 i ;ll:l@ l;ll:: : use. i Nr. Thornton stated the Engineering Department I :;:::; :I::,; i directed them to include this lot in the subdivi-: ;::I:I : sion. According to the ordinance all of the lots: 1:::;: in the subdivision must be improved to City stan-: ::::;: : dards. i No one spoke against this subdivision. I There was discussion on lot splits :nd of putting: : in the street improvements or pcst: 4g a bond al- i i though the rest of the street wniid not be improv-; : ed. I I I 81 I 1) I1 ![Si;; It 1 1 I :;:::; I I 1 :::::: :;I::: ::::;: I ;;::/ I 11:::; I I :I::;, :illl: ::::;: I I I I I I 1 1 iiiji: 8: i R-2 US^. 1 I It 1 I I I I I1 I I I I I I I I I::::: I I I 1;:::: ::i:;: I I I I :;:::: I I I :; I :t1:1; I I :::::: I I 1 t ;::I:, l:4;: ;I::I: ;:;I;* I::::: ,,,,I: I t I:;::, I ::a:;: I I ;::::: I I I I i:!::: 1:;:;: I I I I I;;:': I I lll::; I I I I i;:l;l I 1 I ;:I: I I I t I I ! ! I! I!, 'C r I I I I' ,\',\*. \ " I I I I I I I \\\ '\\ '\\ ' ' I I I , \ , \'\ '\ ' '\\''\ I I I '\' ", '\ '\\ '\''\\ I I : Member 8% @.+\p a,,! :""""""""""""""""""""""~""""""""""""""";""""--""-"~ """"- I ;;l;ti I1 !City Manager stated that whenever two pieces of :;:::: !property are split the improvements must be made : ;::111 I:,, :in front and all around the side if it is a corne; jj;:;: !lot. This was all one piece of property until ; . : :;::I@ 11:: jthey split the property. The lot should be im- ; i:::lt ;:;I:: :proved whether owned by Mr. Ducy or the developer.: 1:;::: :From the City staff point, improvements must go ! :::i;: !in as the street improvements are required. I I :;::;; I I ::p+ :::til Ill :After further discussion, a motion was made to ! l@l:;@ !adopt Resolution Mo. 433 recommending approval of: ::::;j :this tentative subdivision map to the Council sub; :::;,I :;ll:: iject to the recommendations of the various depart: :a:::: :merits and agencies, with the exception that Items : ::;::: i7 and 8 be deleted. 1 I ::::;: Ill I I i:: I:'::: !Planning Commission Resolution No. 433. A RESOLUjSmith I:&;;: :TION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANIWIG COM~IISSI~\I RE- :Palmateer : ; ; : iCOElEND1NG APPROVAL OF THE TEFdTATIVE MAP OF SAH- iMcComas ii I I k; : : :DUL!dOOD DALE SUBDIVISION, was read in full and :McCarthy :x: i : : :adopted. jlamb iik::: I1 I I :Freistadt I :xi: I I1 ; I :::::: !OLD BUSINESS : I I: 111 I I I :::::; 11::1* !(a) R-T "Rec" Zoning. Memorandum from the City :::*:: :F.ilanager re: R-T "Rec" Zoning. The Planning Dir- : 11::: iector stated the Council agreed with the Planning i iCommission and requested that a study be made of : :the R-T zones in the City by the Planning Commis- i jsion, including a study of all R-T water oriented: :areas for R-T 'IRec" zoning. I I :Commissioner Lamb inquired if the Council were :aware that the reason he had requested this study I :was because of the bar at Carlsbad Landing. I I :The City Manager stated the Council felt that the i :whole IF-T zone should be*,studied-arid the Planning i :Commission should consider whether to delete the : ~IIRec" from R-T or whether it should be required. I :The Building Inspector explained that he believed i !the original intent of the R-T "Rec" zone was in- : :tended for the area adjacent to the marina and jhad never been amended. I 1 ;The Planning Director stated this could be placed ! :on the agenda for the next regular meeting if the i iCommission wished. t I I ;The Planning Di rector also reported that the City jaxpects to receive copies of the new proposed I :zoning ordinances from DMM this Friday and copies: jof the subdivision ordinance the next Friday. I I i(b) Small Craft Harbor Presentation. The Chair- I :man reported that the Commission had at the regu- jlar adjourned meeting on Friday, April 22, 1965, : :set the date for the presentation on May 19, 1966,: :at 7:30 P.M. in the i.lagnolia Ave. School, however,! :some of the representatives from Di4J?4 would not ; !be able to attend the meeting that night so the I !meeting is being scheduled for Thurcday, May 12, : 11966, at 7:30 P.b!. I I I I -5- [ N a me ', '*$I& '\, "& I I : of ",-$ +!!@. \O', '\, .p\,.t'$. ++., : 11 IlIIII I 11 I I1 I 1) I) I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I r t I I I I I 1 I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I ! r I I 1 c I I I I I""""""""""""""-""r-"""""""""""" I I :It was the consensus of the Commissio hate would be satisfactory and th C iqucsted that a memorandum be seht to :notifying them of this date ahtl plhce /Harbor presentation. I I IADY OURN!lEi,JT : I L_ :By proper motion the meeting was adjo i9:44 P.i+i. I I jRespectfully submitted, I !DOROTHY i3. OSEURN :Recording Secretary I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I I I 1 I I I I I 1 I I 1 I I I I I I I I t I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I -6- I I I I I I I 1 I f 1 I """"""""""~" n that tht's hai Pman re- the Counci 1 fop the urned at I I I I I . I I I I I I