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Home My WebLink About1966-10-11; Planning Commission; Minutest ? I I I ', \' 8 ** I I I I I 1 i CITY OF CARLSBAD : Minutes of: PLANNING COMMISSION ! Date of Meeting: October 11, 1966 i Time of Meeting: 7:30 P.M. : of 8$ to' 8 : Place of Meeting: Counci 1 Chambers o+'. ' *p, I ; Member -% p.*.g 4 ',, '\L.\\d\Q\,/t+@\ ; :-----"--"""--""-""""""~"""".~""""""""""~""""~~"""""""~"~ ""i"" I 'SIl;; ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, I I ::;;#I 1 I :::;:: 1 ;;;;Is 1 ::;::; I , 8, 's, *8 ' ' I ', 8 \ ",", 1 I I ', 8U,8*., '88 ', ', \' '*, '. '\ '8, *8 ' Na me '., '?$. '., I : Palmateer, .McComas and Little. Commissioners : Sutherland and McCarthy were abser't. Also pre- i i!:;:1 I#'; i sent were City Attorney Wilson, Planning Director! I 111111 I llll;: I 1:;I:: ::'::: ::#;I8 :lII I1966, requesting that consideration be given to I I::,:: ! stricter regulations regarding repair of auto- I :;I:** i motive equipment in the R-1 zones. 1 ;1:4: I 1:;::: I I;*::: I The Chairman asked that this be deferred at this I ::;:;: :time and moved down to New Business. I ;;1;10 I 11 I I:: :;: i sion dated October 7, 1966, asking the Planning i $8 :;:: : Department to consider revising some of the I :::I:: i existing yard and setback regulations in commer- ::;::: : cia1 and industrial areas. I ::::;, @II(I !;;:I* .I : 1: i a study he is making. I I ;; : I.: I "I I I I I I ::!:;: i Letter from Howard Demler, 1565 Chestnut Ave. I I :::;i: :::I,: : regarding smog in Carlsbad and. stating the City I ::;:;: i should stop bringing industry into the City. He i : 1.1 :; ; ; asked the Commission to look at the article on ; 4:;+ i smog in the October 8 issue of the Saturday Even-! :::;i; ::::I4 : ing Post. I 1.: : ; ; : I ::;;:: The Chairman stated that he felt measures can, be i I I ; !.! I I :::::I I ::::;, .. - i i :; ;.;. I I 1:;:;: I i::;:: I 1:;1:: I I :I!+/ :: :p:;i (a) RECLASSIFICATION, continued -. R-1 to R-3 I : ; i : ;': I ::':I: (Multiple-Residential) Zone on the Westerly side i i::;;: : of Roosevelt St., Northerly of Magnolia Ave. I ::i:;: i Applicant: Miles T. Tolbert. I ;: 1:;:: 1 ::/,I i (b) PRECISE PLAN, continued - To consider adopt-! ::;:;: : ion of a precise plan on the W'ly side af Roose- : ::I:;: i:::;: i velt St., N'ly of Magnolia Ave. Applicants: I ;la::: : Planning Commission Resolution No. 448. I ;i:;:; I I ;::::: ; The above public hearings were continued in view : 1:::;; :I;;:: : $he AT&SF Railway'Co. concerning possible use I I :;:;;: ! of railroad right of way for street purposes. I I ;l;;l~ I I I ::;/:: I I I::::: 11 It Schoell, and Building Inspector Osburn. 1 i WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: I I I :I::;; ::::la I 1 I Memorandum from the City Manager dated October 7, I I I I I 1:olh I I I I I:I' L i Memorandum from the Parks and Recreation Commis- I il:;:: I1 I I 1 I ::::;: I The Planning Director stated this will be part of: ? I I I I : taken to prevent smog. ; ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:. : There were no oral communicat.ions. 1 I I I 8: I I I I I 1 I i PUBLIC H'EARINGS: I I I I 8 I I I I@ 1 I I 1;1 I I I I I *a of the fact no further report was received from 1: 18 1:11:: (c) PREZONING TO C-M (Light Industrial) Zone on i :I1 ,*I1,: : property located on the Westerly side of El Camino Real, Northerly of Palomar Airport. I ;&Ill; I 111:11 : Applicants: Graham M. Kelly, et al. I I ;::I;, I 1:;:;; I 11 111 I ::::;; : Notice of the hearing was read. Secretary Palma-i :;::;; i teer certified that publication was given and I I : notices of the public hearing were sent to the i property owners in the area and then read the I I I I B1 I I , i application. I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I 1 I 1 I I I I * 1 I I I ! \ c I I I I I 1 *,'. * *. I , ", ," 1 I I ', ',,"', '8, ",", I I I I ", ', ', '\ '' I I -2- I I I I I l ', ', ', '. 8 ' \' 0 I I I i Communication from the County of San Diego, dated! : October 7, ,1966, to the Carlsbad City Planning i Commission stating this property was zoned in the: I County to M-1 and they have no objection to the proposed zoning to C-M. I I :Memorandum from the Engineering Department to the! ; Planning Director dated October 11, 1966, regard- i I ing streets rights of way, sewer connections and : : water service on this property. i The Planning Director explained'that this properti i is in an area that was zoned by the County approx! ; imately a year ago. He pointed out the location : ion the map and the I'M" zoning across El Camino : : Real in the City where the Carlsbad Industrial i !Park Subdivision is proposed. ,The map taken I I :from the General Plan indicates a 126' fight of i way on El Camino Real and 84' right of way on I I I Camino Sobre Las Lomas, North-South and Macario i !Road, East-West. The precise alignment of sub- : : ject highways to be determined when the area is ! ::::;; I @I:: j prepared to be developed. The Planning Director ; .I : ' jexplained to the applicant that the Commission is :e : :. : "i :now studying planned industrial zoning. The 55 ; I::::, I:;;:: :acres fronting on El Camino Real that was not in- i -I::::! !eluded in this application will be. divided by ; i::;:, :the straightening of El Camino Real. Th3s would i I :.; I : : I mean there would be approximately .30 acres which : ::;::: 11: :may go to an "M" zone in the future. He explaineq I::::, l:;all i the topography and that perhaps Camino Sobre Las ; ;.I I : ; ; : Lomas could be extended. .I I i::::: III) I ; : 8 ; 1.; I I II :The Planning Director pointed out the, low density 1::::: i use South of the Airport and the density proposed; :I;:;: ;:::I1 : in the General Plan. The County .has zoned the i - ; : : ; !.:- i properties commercial at the Southwe'st and South- ; ::I:':! : east corners of Palomar Airport Road and El Cam- : i::::: i ino Real. The General Plan calls for, 300 acres o$ ;::::: ; industria.1 area. I I :I;::: I I ::;:i: :; ! Hughes Aircraft has moved in from Culver City to :; ;::: i the Airpott and plan to increase their develop- : :;:i:i :ment of assemblying heliocopters in the future. I :;:::I i He discussed the need for industrial ,areas around : ;;II:: ::a: : the airport. I I :I:::: :The Chairman announced that the Commissi'on would I ;:::i: :II;:: 4p1; i now hear from the applicant or his representative: : and any others desiring to speak in favor of the : ::I /I::: I application. ;:;I:I I 1:;::: I 1 11 118 i MR. GRAHAM M. KELLY , Attorney at Law, stated I I :;!:I: #In1:' :$hey are not promoters'coming into the City as : :;1:1: i the property has been' owned by their families for :::;;; :many years and all of the property owners except !I::;: jone have spent their summers here. He pointed ::j::: ::i::: :out the County industrial areas. They would pre- : ::111: i fer to be a part of Carlsbad City and to be con- : !;I::: :nected to their sewer system and have local polic$ :::;I: I I ; .I jand fire protection, however, they can develop ; :this property as an industrial area now in the : !County. He voiced objection to the alignment of i :proposed Camino Sobre Las Lomas as he felt the : j alignment should be farther north becailse of the i 4 -1 I I I I I I I I 11 1111 I 101 1 I I I I I I I I I 011, 1'11' I:;,:: :;;:;: :::::: :::::: '::;I: (Ill,) i::!:! I I :::I:( I I I I ::;::I I 1 I I :;;;;; I I I I ::;::: I I I I :;1:1; I I I I i::::: I .;. I I I : i-" .; .I I l e :; I I ': I '1; I )I(Il' I 1 I i ;..I. I ; . ..I 1-1 c I I I I ', 8, '\ S ' I I I I , b'" I ', ', ', I I I ',,"' 's, , , I I I - 3- I *, ', 'a8 ', ', '\ I I I '. "Q. I : of 'I .?d%, +,&+ : ;""""""""""""""~""~~"""".~"""""""-"""""""~~"""""""~~," : Member $$6"p'.+d\,d, ""Y""J I 6 I :::h~ I1 lll:;: i terrain. They tried to match up Macario Road to ;;::I# i come into the road into the Carlsbad Industrial : I 11:: @::;I8 : Park. They would like to re-open the- old road i :::#11 ::;I 1:: i along the ridge. It is an ancient highway, I 1:: : Road Survey 38 and 57, and would provide a direct: :;$I; i route and would be better for trucks going into : i:;::: lllol : the industrial development. In reply to the I :::I:: : letter regarding smog control, he stated that thei ;::;:: ;::::a can develop the property now as M-1 property with: :::I:: i out coming into the City. The industries would : 1::::: : be light industries, mostly indoors, so they will! :::a,; I preserve the beauty of the area. In describing ; :::::I ::I::: I the topography on the Northerly portion of the I !;I:;: i property, he stated that it drops from 239' to 701 1:;::: ;along the ridge to El Camino Real. They would i ::;::: i like to saw through the ridge and when it is cut ; ::I8 : through, fill up the edges of the canyon. I I ;;I*;; I I :;::;: I I ()*I iM. S. MERRILL, President of Pacific Project Con- i:::;; 1:;;;: It /sultants, 690 Elm Avenue, statcid that he is in- : illl;: : vol ved in the prezoning of property in I tem (d) i i:::;; I(((1 :::;I# I :: I I. : -.: i Camino Real and East of Sintorosa Golf Course. I ;;::;: :He stated that if this property is zoned C-M and I::,:: I does not conflict with their.property, they would! :::::: :be 100% for it. ~ ;,,,,I I ; :.; :: ; I I I 1:;::: I I::;:: !MR. PAUL ROWE, stated he owns the 'Maas-Rowe I ::;I:: i Carrillon Plant across from this preposed zone ! ;.I I : ; ; : and does not see any conflict provided the ordi- I ::;a:: i nance is strict enough to preclude small smog I I ; ; I :.I -. :makers as well as large smog makers. It is ini- :::::: i perative to have an ordinance prohibiting this. ::::,I :;@I:: ;He stated he did not feel that cars driven by I 1 i: :.:. :workers for a short distance would create as much ! I::::: :smog as those having to drive,a considerable dis- i ;:::;I 11 I: I tance to work. He would 1 i ke to see the 7 acres ; /;::: :on which,his p.lant's located annexed to the City i :::;:; @:It;: :in an industrial area. 1 I ::: ::: I I 1;::;: :MR. JERRY CIMOLINO, Birch and Sunnyhill Rd., I :::;ii stated that he represented the owners of the pro" I:::;; :perty that is surrounded by this proposed "Mi' I ;:::I* !property, the Augua Hedionda Ass'n. This propert4 ,:;I:: ::;:;: !is zoned M-1 in the County and will be divided by; ::+: :the realignment of El Camino Real. He would like i ::::,I i to be cognizant of the progress of this proposed ; i:e::: : prezoning. I I ,I::;; I I I:::,; I I 11*1:1 !The Chairman explained that if the Commission I I ::;;;I :::;;: 11 i recommended approval of .thJs prezoning it would ::::,I :be heard before th.e Council. I ::pi: :* I I i::;;: :The public hearing was closed at 8:30 P.M. I 1 ;:::;; I 1 1 ;::i:: :The Chairman asked the City Attorney if thris pre- i jzoning is granted and a new ordinance on C-M zon- : i::::: ;::::: :ing is adopted, how it would affect the present i ;::::: iprezoned property .and the City Attorney stated : I::!:: :the new zoning would regulate all of the C-M pro- ::;I:: Iperty in the City and that property iS prezoned ; :;,:I: I 8L;l :would come in under the amended ordinance. '::;I; 1 I i::::; I I ::::I: I i:;::: I 111 If I 1;:::: i::::: I I 1 :::::: I I 'I D ;:e::: 1 I 1 : 1::;:: *I I I I i i..;, : : , :..I 1 I I :81i:! I I I I i Na me 's*,:$&,8 'S, *f%, I \, ', 8 ', '\ '* 1 I I 81' I1 on the agenda and'was present at this meCting to : - :speak in relation to property Northerly of El .I : 11 I, I I 11 I (11 I SI* 1 :I I I 881 11 I I I 11 I D::I:: I I 1 I I I 'I I I I I I I I I 1 I: ! ; .a. : ..I ! ! I . -I-! I I I -4- I I I h I I I ~~~~~~"~~~~~"".~~~~.~~~~~~~~~"~~~~~~"~~~~.~~"~~~~~"~~~""~~~~~~"~~ t : Points discussed were that the existing uses I under the C-M zone have ordinances that tend to i i control noise, smog and odors; that the green : area shown on the map for this area does not i follow the creek bed; the possibility of leaving i ; the creek bed as a green area; that it would be i possible to develop the land against the airport ; : by grading it out. I i The following resolution was presented: 1 adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 462 re- ! : commending to Council prezoning to C-M on pro- i perty on the Westerly side of El Camino Real I ;: I:::! : Northerly of Palomar Airport for the following i :;@ql I I I I I I I CI I I I I ;:: After due consideration a motion was made to I /;::I i ::;:;; ;:;:;; I ::;:;; I I ::;!]: I ::;;;: ii:: * 1 11:: ! generally with that outlined in the General Plan.1 :ii;il t :*::;; Ill :+;; II i C-M zone would be compatible with the surrounding: ;::;I: i properities in thisgeneral area. 'I I ::!:;I I :!!I;; I@ i Planning Commission Resolution No. 462. A RESOLU-!Smith ; $!x: i i TION RECOMME-NDING TO COUNCIL PREZONING TO C-M ON :Palmateer i+ ;xi : I PROPERTY AT WESTERLY SIDE OF EL CAMINO REAL, iMcComas ; :xi ; :; NORTHERLY OF PALOMAR AIRPORT, was adopted by :Little ; title only and further reading waived. :X; I i 6 1:1111 ! (d) PREZONING TO R-3 (Multiple Dwellings) Zone.,! i::;;; 1:::;: I on property Northerly of El Camino Real and East i 'I:;;; ; of Sintorosa Golf Course. Applicants: .A. A. I i:*ltl l e:;!;; McCol lum,et al. I 1;;:i: I : i Letter from William B. Rick, Rick Engineering CO.~ i!:::; ;;;:;; ; 3557 Kenyon St. San Diego, dated October 7, 1966,; ;tl#*; : on behalf of Mrf A.A. McCollum, owner and Mr. : : Ross Tharp, attorney, requested that all action 1 i::;;: on prezoning the above property, scheduled for I ii::;; I hearing on October 11 , be held up for the time ; ;:ii:: f being, due to difficulties that have developed : ::;!;: i in the ownership of the property. I ; ; : ; ;.; I i;::;: Letter from Ross G. Tharp, Attorney, 3029 Clairmobt 1:;::: : Dr., San Diego, stating that due to a change in : ::;:;: i ownership of on'e of the properties, they did not ; I i;4;: *;!!;I : wish to pursue the pending application for pre- : i zoning. A new application will be filed shortly i i::;:; I 1;1:;; I@ : on behalf of Mr. McCollum and other property ;1:;t; 4;i:: i owners in 'the area. He further informed the i 'It( ; Commission that Rick Engineering of San Diego, I ;;t::i 11 i is the only engineer authorized to represent l it:;:; ; Mr. A. A. McCollum. No other engineer or person I ; I :.I I I ; 1.1 1 I l;:l;! I I :@;;I; 8 i OLD BUSINESS: 8 :!;#*I I I iiiii; I i (a) Zoning Study - Commi'ttee report on R-T and i ;::;:; i;;i:! ; R-W study locations. I e I ;::'!; I;;:;, i The Chairman suggested that Commissioners I :;;:;: : Palmateer and Little meet with Commissioner Suth-i i:1:;: I#!I:I 8 ! erland during his confinement. 1 L i;;l{l I I I '#:*I j*i : i I 1 i I :::ii: I i :::i:i I I I :iiiil I * :::;I, : I I I; ; 1.; I I I ;;l@d i i;iiii I reasons : I I 1. That the C-M use in this area correspond; I I I 2. That all of the uses specified in the I I :I I I I I I @I l;<;;;l I@l#;; to e* I* I t is authorized to act on Mr. McCollum's behalf. I t 6 I * I : !*I I I 4 !!;;;I I;!:! I I I I *'* 1 I h I I I I e I I I -5- I I I. I i (a) Precise Plan on property on the Northwester-: ; 1y corner of Tamarack Ave. and Interstate 5 Free-; i way. ! stating that the property owners of the'above i property would appreciate the Commission initiamT i : ting a precise plan regarding this property. I After due consideration a motion was made to adop): ; the following resolution: I 4 I I I I I I I I Letter from David Koyl dated October 10, 1966, I I I I RECOMMENDING A PRECISE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL i AND ORDERING NOTICE THEREOF TO BE GIVEN, was I read in full and adopted. i The Planning Director explained the location of I : the property and stated that Dr. H.C. Harmon, t :. letter p'rior to the hearing on the school board ; i (b) Repairing of automobiles in R-1 Zones. : The.Commission discussed the fact that it is a . i difficult problem to enforce. : The Chairman expressed strong feelings about the i I need for an ordinance regulating repairs in t t ; residential zones that can be understood and I i enforced as there have been a large number of ; complaints received on the matter by the Carlsbadi : Police Department. The complaints charge home ; i mechanics with treating unsightly conditions in i I neighborhoods. I t The Building Inspector explained thatthis matter; ; was brought before the Council about three years ago and the difficulty arose in distinguishing : : between minor and major repairs and proof that i work is being done on. cars that do not belong to : i the owners of the property. He pointed out that i : on checking some of the cars being repaired, some; i of the properties have a number of cars register-! : ed to the same owner and parked in their back ! yard. He stated he felt that if painting and i body repairs were eliminated entirely in residen-: i tial zones it would solve some of the problems. i ; He also suggested that homeowners be required : ; to come to the City Hall for permits to overhall i their 'cars in residential zones. This would be : : a way of keeping a record of the cars repaired. i i MR. JOHN FOX, ,4215 Harrison St. , pointed out thad ; painting cars and body work cause considerable : I unsightliness and Se?t'this work should be en- I closed as it looks bad from the street. 8 i MR. EUGENE WERNIdGK, 4264 Highland Dr. stated i 1 that he felt the City can amend the ordinance so i i that persons can take care of their own automo- ; : biles but cannot work on their neighbor's car. ! : I I Carlsbad Union School District, would send a 1 'I t i meeting. I I I I I I I I I I I I I t I I 1 I I I 1 I 1 I I I I I I I I I b I I B I I 8 * I I I 9 I. I I I 4 I I I I I 1 I I I I I 4 I I I I 1 I I I I I I I 1 1 t I I I ‘I I I I I I I I I 1 I I -6- He stated he has been working on this for four years and has two pages of license numbers that he has taken down of cars that have been worked on next to him. This gentleman takes the owners of the cars into the house so. he cannot see if they pay him for the work or not. He Objected to the hammering and grinding of the body repairs He stated these fellows do not get permits or licenses and probably do not pay income taxes on these repairs. a* There was considerable discussion on the fact that if repairing of autoinobiles in residential zones was prohibited entirely, ‘it would be cur- tailing a.person’s liberties and would hinder youths from learning to repair their own cars; that the ordinance should be written to be not too restrictive so that it can and will be en- forced. The Chairman requested the City Attorney to work with the Planning Director and Building Inspector to formulate a proposed ordinance for the Com- mission to study. ADJOURNMENT: . By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 9:22 P.M. Respectfully submitted, &+A. DOROTHY OSBURN Recording Secretary 4