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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1967-09-26; Planning Commission; Minutesr I P h I '\ . .. ', ,I , ~CITY OF CARLS' I I '\\ 't, \\\ ', '\ '. I I i Minutes of: PLANNING COMMISSION' I I .' ,, \,,'\\ ' ', '','8\ 1 I \, ', ', ', '. '* ;Date of Meeting: September 26, 1967 i Name '*,,?+. \* ',,'$h !Time of Meeting: 7:30 P. M. : of \r 0' ' ; Place of Meeting: Council Chambers : Member '\S$J',$~'"\ : .o$;& +;?+, : ~""""""""""""""""""""~"-""""""""-""-"-"""~"""--"""--"-----~-"- '9 I I! :ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, I I :::;:I iMcComas, Palmateer, Sutherland, Little, Jose and i ::::;I :::#,I :Voorheis. Also present were City Attorney Wilson: ::;:;: i Planning Director Schoell , Chief Building Inspec- i ;pi:: :tor Osburn, and Civil Engineering Assistant Sprehe. *I II I 4 I ::'IIt ::;; i APPROVAL OF MINUTES: I ;:: ::: I 'I:;;; i::::: I :xi xi ; : I I Ipalmateer : ; ix~ I : I Sutherland i I : ; :xi I I 9ose ?(; !xi ; ; I :Little ; i i ; ;xi I IVoorheis ; ; ; : ;x: I I ipalmateer : ; !xi ; ; I Sutherland i : :x; i I I I Little : ixix: ; ; I I bose : : :xi ; i I * poorheis I : i :x; I ;;*a;; WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: I I I I :;*:;; I lnii:: :Letter from the San Diego County Pl'anning Depart- i i:::;: It I I II I I I: (a) Minutes of the adjourned meeting of Septem- :Smith lber 8, 1967, were approved as corrected. :McComas : I : : ; I) Ix; I I I I I I I ::;::: i (b) Minutes of the regular meeting of September !Smith ; : :xi '1; ; ; :12, 1967, were approved as submitted. McComas $; !x; i ; I I I I I I:'#* I (a) San Diego County Regional General Plan - I I ::::;; I@ jment dated September 22, 1967, with map showing i ii:::: :revisions requested by the Planning Commission, ; 891:;; i was read and acknowledged. I ;i!;l' !ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: !There were no oral communications. I !PUBLIC HEARINGS: I :(a) RECLASSIFICATION, continued - To consider a :zone chawge from R-P to C-M on the Westerly side ; :of Roosevelt St. between Laguna Dr. and Beech Ave.!, :being the Easterly one-half of Lot 21 , Seaside I :Lands, Map 1722. Applicant: Frances M. Peachey ; ! Reese. I !Mr. Russell Grosse, Attorney representing the :applicant, asked that this hearing be continued to! :October 24, 1967, in order to get additional prop-! :erties on the Westerly side of Roosevelt St. to : irequest C-M zoning also. I !A motion was made to cpntinue this hearing to bmi th !October 24, 1967. NcCqmas I palniateer I I Sdtherland I I gittle I Uose I I 4 I I I I :;4:, 1: I I ::ii:: I '. I I I .I I ;I* ;: I :i:iii I I I I 6 I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I 4 I I I 1 I I I I I I I 4 I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 1 1 I I I I 1" ~~~ ~ I -2- 1 1 I I I I I I I I I '\ \., . ,,', b "' I I ', ',,'*, I I I ',, bb,',., ', , . I \, *,,'., '\\ ',,'* I :""""""""""""""""""""""""""""-"""""""""~""""""""":"",~:" ; Member $%'@..p\p o'.~ I '.l,:'I 1 ::::;I I l:;*lI I I ::;:I; ;Ig;:# I::*:: j;;;:: I I I ,. -8' I Na I I ; me ',, y9\0' *$$. '., - '$&, ' I *?$;%, ;J,$$$+ I I :OLD BUSINESS: :(a) Sign Study. The Planning Director presented i :a chart of proposed limits for the size of signs i jin different zones and explained that the purpose ; ;of the study is to prevent unsightly cluttering of: :the City and to make signs more effective to their! !users. He then discussed the size and type of the: :proposed signs with the Commission. I I :The Commission decided to study and discuss signs :further at their next meeting. I I i(b) Planned 1ndustria.l Zone. The Planning Directok :discussed the rough ddaft of the proposed P-M I !(Planned Industrial) Zone. He felt the City shouljd :replace the present IIM" and C-M Zones with a I I !Planned Industrial Zone and a Highway Related I I :Commercial Zone. The activities of the Planned I :Industrial Zone would be governed by performance ; ;standards. Certain requirements should be set up i :Industrial Zone and part of the C-M Zone. Among i jpoints discussed were that the P-M zone would not ; :allow retail sales, except of goods manufactured I jor fabricated on the site and which sales are I :incidental to the business. Adequate landscaping ! !and setbacks are important. The main concern, as :far as zoning is concerned, is to enhance the !community by keeping industry separate from resi- i :dential and commercial areas, and to protect the : !investment of good industry from the infringement ;of marginal industry or non-industrial uses. I I !Commissioner Little stated he felt bu1.k storage, .: llumber yards, gasoline storage and automobile I :wrecking yards should be excluded and placed unde6 ; conditional use permits. He felt it would be much I :easier to exclude these operations from the start.: :He also pointed out that electronics cannot with- i !stand the vibrations that would come from having : :an auto wrecking yard next to them. Unless provisi- i ions are made, the developer will try to sell prop-: :erty for the best price, so it is in the best i interests of the City to have restrictions. Lum-! .:her yards and saws cannot be heard until they are I I in operation. I I i The Commission discussed deleting helicopters and i ;helistops and electric substations under conditioqal :use permits. Also the Commission considered I : deleting the last sentence under Paragraph A undet I Parking Requirements. I The Chairman stated he would not exclude lumber : :yards but believed they should come in for a I I i conditional use permit. He pointed out that :industry changes over the years. He stated he : !would like the ordinance to state wholesale I I :business and that retail business in this zone : i should come under a conditional use permit. I I I I I I I I I I !as this ordinance would take over the present I I I I I " I I 1 I I I I I I I I 1 I I I 1 I I I I I I # I I I I I I I 4 I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I ,;:::': 11 8 I ;i:;i; I I ~Y -3- I I I I I I \, b', 88. I I ' " ,, 8. 'b b' I I I I I I I '\ ', *, 'b '\ '8 6 I I '. ',',~."'., I I I '.,,'.,', y. 8 Name 8, *%. *,'*$% i b$'\q;, 't %2 ; I +Ly% +,+* I :""""""""""""-"""""""""""""""""""""""""'"""""""","~"","" : Member *6 @.++ ,d, ; I ;:I I\ iiii I 1 I : of !Commissioner Little asked the City Attorney for a ;; :clarification of what constttutes retail sales as ; ;::::: !in the electronic assembly business somebody else : ;;::;; :is going to use the part and add it to something ! ;I;;Ia :else. The City Attorney stated he would have to :::;:: ;think this over. #;;I;; I ;lI:t' 1: !The Planning Commission discussed minimum parking i $'I8l I";: I requi rements. I I ;::::: :The Planning Director in reviewing the draft I #*'I*: I 1:;1:1 :stated they are working toward getting good devel4p- i:;::: iment in town which would be better in the long run: i;:;:: :than to penalize the City by getting a lower type ; d;:I :of industry in to make a "fast dollar". He reportdd ::;;:: :';I:; !looking at many industrial developments with front: ;:;;I; :yard setbacks from 20' to 60' and that it makes a1:l ;:,::I ::::;; I1 ithe difference if the front yard is planted with : 1::;II !no parking. He proposed a minimum planted area 06 :::;:: ;lo' on the side yard and rear yard adjacent to thd :;al" :;:::: :property lines. Loading docks aould be on the side ::;':: !or back. t I :; 4;: !The Building Inspector suggested setting up diffe4- :I::;: :ent setbacks on one acre sites than on the larger; ;: 'I:: !sites. I I ;:::;; ;::::; I I ;; !The Planning Director stated the developers could i :place additional deed restrictions upon themselves! :;I' ;; :ii: :if they wished. The buildings could be 25' from ehe 'I;: :;::;; :rear yard property line. There should always be i a:;;; ispace for a ten foot drive around the building. : ::::I; : He would 1 i ke to see the City be able to compete ..I 4:;:: ::;I:, !with Rancho Bernardo's industrial development. I ::,I:: I .I :;::I; a: lb~I1l 4 I I 1 I I I I I ;:!i:: I I I :;41;; i;:: I I ' I I I i In discussing electric substations, Mr. Ted I ;I, I i I.; :::!I; ::;I ;I#;;! I I ;;::;: I ::::': I :;;::: I :::::; ::I::: ::::;: :;::;: I I I :;::;; 18 t I iii;;; I ::;:;: I ::;::: I I ::;:;: I* I I I I I::::; ::;::; :::::! :!::I: I I :;::;: I I :I;@l; I I 1;;::1 I I ::;:;: I ' :Richmond, San Diego Gas & Electric Co., stated itheir Company is landscaping their substations : ::I:;; :completely now in an effort to beautify and shiel$ Ithem. They have just started landscaping them ; ;;ll;I :this year and have planted large trees on the Istation at Mesa Drive and El Camino Real in I I ,;:;i: : Oceanside. :Upon discussing property near the airport, the I i:::;: i Planning Director pointed out that care should be; I ;Ill :taken since this is not flat land. He questioned i ::I::; :whether they should set a minimum lot width. He ; ;:::i: :stated that in San Diego loading docks are not i :visible from adjoining property or streets. :The Chairman mentioned the fact that this area is i in I sever&ly limited for obtaining skilled personnel. i :!!:!; I Commissioner Little stated that 90% of their I ppople have to be trained where he works. !After further discussion the Chairman invited the :::!;I #I :Commission to look at the Machine Shop at Highes i :*I I: i in Oceanside which has a 10,000. sq. ft. building: I 'I :and loading docks in Oceanside, and to study and 4 : discuss this further. I I I I I I I I I I I I i t I I I I 8 I I I I I '11 I I I ~~. h I I I I I I I h I 8, S', a I s8 ', \ '8 's '8 I I b 88 I 4 1 4 I I I I 'S 8L,'88, '8 '~,~8~ t I -4- 8, '8 '8 8\8 \, ' I I N a me '\ '$$. ',8 '& I I : of ''.$*;?b. *.'~p, : I : Member .,(.'.o ,o%..~+~,o. x,v;\+ $6, ; I ::;i;: ::/,I I;::: ', 8 6' 8\ :""~"""""""'""""-"""""~"""""""""""""""""-"'""""""""-""","" '0 IJ i NEW BUSINESS: I I ;It :(a) Precise Plan - Northeast Corner of Tamarack i :;;::: :Avenue and Pi0 Pic0 Drive. ::;::: 4 I 1;::;: :Letter dated September 19, 1967, from Richard V. i :::::: !Jordan requesting the Planning Commission to 8 :;;::: :initiate proceedings to consider a precise plan I ;:a:;: i:!!:: ion above property. I I ;::;I4 I# I llII;: ;After due consideration a motion was made to adop4 I:;;lI :::::i :the following resolution: I * :';l:l :Resolution No. 518. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING Smith ::ki;; :COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD DETERMINING : Palmateer !x: ic i i : !THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD TO CONSIDER McComas : ixb i ; :RECOMMENDING A PRECISE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL : Sutherland i 8; : ; :AND ORDERING NOTICE THEREOF TO BE GIVEN, was read i Little : ~ !in full and adopted. : Jose :;x::: IO I 0I:''I I I I I I I I 8 ;:4:: I I I I I I I I i!:::: II II I* I( I I I I Voorheis i i i : : /- !(b) First Baptist Church. The Building Inspector :::::I j:'::: 1,:::: ::;;;; I( ::I::: ;::I;: :I,:;: I I 11 jcalled attention to the fact the First Baptist I :Church is in violation of the zoning ordinance. ; :The State paid the church for the whole building : iand then the church bought the building back for i i$50.00. The church has a bond of $1500.00 with : :xi;: te to remove a portion of the building, an4 {:a ;I;: :all church removed was the steps in front. I I ;:@I+ :The Building Inspector reported telling Mr. Andre4 :::: :Channel1 , Mr. Minor Starr and others, many times : ithey would have to remove a portion of the buildi4g :i:::: :in order to comply with the 20' front yard setback: :'I:'l $'I:* :when the freeway is widened as the front of the ,i ::I::: :church, as it now stands, will only be' about 6 : :; ' : i ;.; :inches from the right of way on Pi0 Pic0 Drive. I I,;I;: :He stated he would have to serve notice on the : :congregation on Sunday morning and give them 30 i 'I*:#; I :;;I:, :days to comply with the zoning ordinance. They ; :;;::: inow have a different pastor and the new pastor i ::;::: ::;::: :says he did not know of this requirement. I :l#'I; I I;;:' :(c) Service Station Appearance. There was no I 8: ;:;t:t ireport from the Committee appointed to study this i ;:;::: :matter. Some of the Commissioners agreed the I 1:;:;; istations called to their attention were unsightly.; !:I::: /'I; :The Committee stated they would get together re- : VlI;: :;i;;1 igarding this matter. i(d) Setbacks in R-3 Zone. The Building Inspector i I:!i:l :pointed out that the former City Attorney gave her: :!:;;I ::i !opinion of the ordinance, that an accessory buildijng ::;I*: :could be built to the side property line, and the ; i;::;: I:, !City has several expensive buildings with accessorp i::::: :buildings built to the property line. The presen;t 1;:::: ::;;:I !City Attorney has a different interpretation of : :the ordinance, which makes these nice developments! ;I:::: jnon-conforming, and asked the Commission's indul- : 1*4:t: fgence in this matter. The width of the lots in thg ;::::; ;:;l:l iR-3 zone near the beach makes it very difficult to: 1::::: ::;::: :develop the properties without building an accesso!ry ::;:I: !building to the property line. I ::I:;: i ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion the meeting was ad- McComas ; : i ; :: ijourned at 9:52 P. M. : Palmateer : : :xi : I i Sutherlan4 : : x; I ; : Little :xi $ : I I I oor eis : ! IX: ! : ii:;;; 1'1 *I I ;ii:ii I I I I ::;; 1:: I .I I t ::I::; :: 'II I ;I1 *I( I i Smith I ' :xi ; I Secretary i Jose ; :x: x: I ; I I