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Home My WebLink About1968-02-08; Planning Commission; Minutes,- I .. ; CITY OF CARLS~AD b' ..- I I '8, '8,.8\, ', ', '8, I COUNCIL AND PLANNING rAt?MISSIOi i Minutes o'f: 88 8*8'',8 '\\ '8, ', ; Date of I'leeti : February 8, 1968 (Adj -ned Mti. )Name\,, ',,$, ',,',&, i Tine of I4eeting: 7:30 P. M. I . .$i, : :Place of Meeting: Library Conference Room i A. joint meeting of the Carlsbad City Council and i ;'ll;; ; ; :.; I 1 : Planning Commission was held in the conference : :;:::: i room of the Carlsbad City Library for- the purpose: 8l;;ls :ofl;: ; of discussing freeway interchanges, signs, indus-I , 1::;:: i trial zoning and Master Plan Updating. :;:;#I I I 4:;t;: 4 ,tI;l' I1 : In attendance were Councilmen Northing, Dunne and: ;::;I; # l:;;:I I i:::;! : Little, Jose, McComas and Smith. Councilman I ;s;;o I:;#:: : Also in attendance were City Att0rne.y Wilson, I :;;;:: ::*I I *#:8;l I and City Clerk Adams. I i:;::: I I 1:;; ::: ;.I 1 i The Planning Director presented the Council with i iJa:; i a memorandum dated January 11 , 1968, with recom- ; I$;: 11 11:: : mendations for freeway interchanges .and service i :p;;; station studies, as well as a presentation of I I ::;::: : each interchange in the C-ity. He explained that ; !;;;:! 14; I : the..,Planning Commission recommended that Inter- I i st'a'te 5 Freeway between .the ,proposed State Park : iii;!! i at the Buena Vista Lagoon and the boat harbor at i 11 :.I ; :the Agua Hedionda Lagoon be made as attractive ; i as possible. He stated this could be accomplisheg :tltbl ala:18 ; by planning, landscaping and preventing highway : ;;I:#* 1:;1;; : businesses between the main interchanges, main- i I#:;:: i taining the present zoning.and underground utili-: ::11:; :;i::: : ties. I I ::;:;: I * :::i:: .I : ; : ;.: i 1 I :::l;l I ::;:;: I 1;::;: ,* '8% I I I * \,8*' I I : of '.$$j>, ',& .o, q',$;l$, '\ ,r,. I : :"""-"""""""."""""""""""""""".."""""""~"""""""""""""""~""~l : Member $3'@.$$j+,ox,.* s I I I. Neiswender; Commissioners Voorheis, Palmateer, Jardine and Commissioner Sutherland were absent. City Manager Martin, Planning Director Schoell I I ::::#I ;;:;:: In discussing the above matters the Planning i Commissioners pointed out that people come to : Carlsbad for recreation at the beach, and the : freeway that runs the length of the City could be: ::;i:: : the key to our city in attracting the public to : ii::ii i the downtown area and to the apartments and motel; : along the beach; that the Commission is trying to: ; : ; ; ,i make the freeway commercial by the quadrants at ; i:: Il' : the freeway interchanges; that it was also the : i feeling .of the Commission to have the property :; :.: 1 I ; along the freeway as a parkway;.that the Commis- ; :;;;i: i sion feels there are sufficient service stations,! i:: 811 : and that restaurants are needed. I ;:;::: .I ';:I: I I # ::I::; i The Planning Director referred to the memorandum ! i : 1.1 ;; 1-1;; : and stated that not less than two of the allowed i /::;: i uses should be constructed on the quadrants. I ;:I:;; : Such uses sho'uld be limited to service stations, i ::;;I; ;:;1:1 I restaurants and motels and no single uses should $48' : be permitted. He stated that the Planning Com- i 1:::: ::ll;l ; mission felt that Elm Avenue and Palomar Airport ; :+;: : Road are ideal locations for transferring people : ::181: 1:;1:1 i off the freeway to the beach, commercial and I I :;;::; ; industrial facilities; and for that reason the : :;l:l: I northwest quadrant of Elm Ave,nue is ideal for a I I::::: /:;;; : restaurant, motel and service station complex if : :;1:1: a large enough piece of land can be utilized. 1 I ;;:::: 1,IB;l I I ::I::: The following persons expre'ssed concern as to the; i::;;: : zoning and land use along the freeway between the; ;:::i: ; freeway interchange quadrants: Nr. 14. W. Bondy, i ::I::; i Mr. Ted Rhodes, Mr. Louis A. Olsen,Realtor in ; ::::I; ; Carlsbad, Mr. Chester Heltibridle, Mr. Galen I t 1::::: i Nornhol d, Mr. Harry Truax, and Mr. Tony Howard- I;; ;.I ; ;t: ;:I I1 : Jones, Realtor in Carlsbad. # I:: I: I f :.; : ; I I I I I I:,::: I I I :;:;;; I I I 1 l:;:;l I I 1 ::!::I #I I ::::;; ::;; :+:: ::: I I' 11 I #I I I I I I I ;11:1; I 1 :!f:*: I I ," P L I I ., I 'I I I I I t I I I I I I I 1 I .- L.. I -2- i -"""" - ""I"""".."""" * "" *" "."""""""""" """"" I. I I 4 I Signs. Considerable discussion was given to signs! ; Freeway Signs. Mayor Dunne questioned the signs i i at Palomar Airport Road and Interstate 5 Freeway.; I : Planning. Commission Chairman Little stated that 1 . ,the Commission had giv-en a great deal of thought ; I to the size and height of signs, and after drivinb ; have come to a general conclusion that 35' is high . i enough for signs and that 80 s.qua-.r.efeet is suffi-; : cient for one business, with.facilities on a I I. * 8 I I I i along the Freeway for a considerable distance, I i quadrant making a total of 240 square feet.. He also expressed the desire to have a period of ! time set for removing or reducing signs that I I v . ; exceed 35' . I I I -1 Coun.ci1man Worthing ask'ed how the Commission I I ''i arrived at the size and height, and what is being! d0n.e by the County regard.ing signs. I i Commissioner Palmateer stated the Commission has i been studying ordinances of other cities, I The following persons voiced objection to signs I I 1 1 I 8 I ; at freeway interchanges of less than 200 square : ; feet or 240 square feet: Mr. Harry Truax, Mr. * i Chester Iteltibridle; Mr. Perry Lamb, and Mr. L. ! Olsen. .. I. .. I I I ; Councilman Neiswender referred to the realtors ' . present who have visions of the City of Carlsbad ; : having developments such as the Stardust. He # I i stated he felt the freeway signs should be the ; same as in the County and the City should work : i toward uniformity, with 200 square feet and 35' i ; in height, and that all other signs should be I I handled on a conditional use permit. : Commissioner Smith mentioned that he is a "lone I wolf" on these interchanges as he feels there I I i if necessary and he does not feel that 80 square : ; feet is large enough to be readable in. order to i i make a safe exist from.the freeway. I Industrial Ordinance. T.he Planning Director I : explained that specific uses ar.e set out in the i i ordinance and it is felt that situations are I I' ; developing now that do not fit into the ordinance: i as it now stands. Certain requirements should ; : scaping, noise, etc. i The May'or questioned the progress made by the ; Commission with the industrial zoning, and the : : draft prepared, and the Commission is striving : I to have two types of industry,with .conditional i : use permits within the ordinance. Each type of I business would have to meet certain requirements.! I I I I I r rc ; should be exceptions made to'the 35' height limit; 6 I , 4 I : be set out, such as additional parking, land- I I 4 I I I I I I Planning Director stated they have had a rough b I I I I I I I I A I .I I 1 I : I I I I I I I I * 1 I t I 1 I I 4 b ~~~ -. c ', V r