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Home My WebLink About1969-06-04; Planning Commission; Minutes..I. . . h MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEET1 NG: TIME OF MEETING: PLACE OF MEETING: CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION - ADJOURNED MEETING WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 1969 7:30 P.M. STAFF CONFERENCE ROOM - CITY HALL 0L.L CALL: . lso present were E. J. O'linghouse and Robert A. John- ton of the Planning Department. Inasmuch as there was insufficient members present for a quorum and it was known Commissioner Palmateer would be lade in arriving, the Agenda items for this meeting YlJere not opened until Commissioner Palmateer did arriv at 8:30 P.M. NEW BUS I NESS: '(a) Four (4) House Moves - Applicant: Jack McCoy, per the following: House at 2747-2751 Madison Ave; one at 2755 Madison Ave; 2786 Roosevelt; and 2501 State Stree a1 1 to be moved to 985 Laguna Drive. Chief Building Inspector Osburn was present to explain that the applicant had requested permission to move 3 houses and one duplex from the above locations, and the Building Department had inspected these dwellings at that time, with the decision these buildings would require corrections in order to meet present City stan dards, after being moved. Also, because the Commissio had recently approved one new development in this area and another is also proposed, it was felt a Commission decision was required in this case due to its adverse effect on the general area. MR.. JACK MC COY, 3470 Walley Drive,. was present as the applicant in this matter. The Chairman asked for the Building Department's investigation and Mr. Osburn stated it was not felt this was possibly the highest o best use of the land, particularly in view of the new and proposed higher uses in the area. It was known that this good use was hoped to contimue upgrading tha area of the City, and the houses to be moved were not in line with the planned-for development. The size of the buildings, number of bedrooms, number of parking facilities, lot sizes and conformance or non-conforman to the City's building code were clarified and discuss Mr. Osburn addressed the applicant in stating he felt sure the cost of moving these particular dwellings and bringing them up to standard might well exceed any ex- pectation of the applicant. The applicant stated he did not as yet have title to these dwellings, which wa contingent upon the decision of the Commission. The Planning Di.rector presented certain statistics re- sulting from the recent special census, such as the density, population per househo'ld, number of automobil per dwelling, etc., for this area in the City. Mr. Osburn was aware of the history of these buildings as to age, type of construction, materials used, and ability to qualify for their intended use after they were moved and inspected by his department. Certain inspections had already been attempted on the dwelling and problems were expected. It was decided that those Commissioners not present and those who had not seen the houses in question, should be afforded an opportunity to look at both the houses and the proposed location before making a deci-s COMMISSIONERS resent bsent \ i CITY -2- CARLSBAD io'n on this-application. The Building Inspector offer the services of his department should any Commissioner desire to be shown all t'he items under consideration in this matter, either during normal working hours or after 5:OO P.M., at their convenie.nce. A motion was mape to continue this item of request for four (4) house moves to 985 Laguna Drive, until the regular meeting of June 10, 1969. The applicant was agreeable to this to allow the Commissioners time for personal inspection. This was agreed to unanimously by voice vote.. (b) ' One (1) House Move - Applicant: James A. Scanlon, from: 2790 Madison Ave to 1240 Pine Avenue. It was noted the applicant was not present and the matter would be continued to the regular meeting of June 10, 1969 also. 2. 3. Scenic Corridor: The Planning Director opened the discussion on thi item, briefing the Commission on a recent meeting with the County which proposed a County-wide sceni, highway program, in which all cities would partici pate and examine the various means of developing such areas, other than those suggested by the Stat1 proposed program for San Diego County. The status of the State program was also discussed. It was pointed out the County feels additional roads, streets and communities should be considered and i is planned for all Planning D.irectors to meet and submit items from their area for inclusion in a County progra. In this way, the County hopes to work out a "policy" towards the scenic program. Mr. Olinghouse also suggested inc'lusion of a new category in the Gene-ral Plan of Highways, called "The scenic connector streets" (such as Oceanside has done), for Carlsbad streets such as Jefferson and possibly Park Drive; these streets would have particular standard and serve a particular functio Mr. Olinghouse felt the Commission should appoint committee, or establish a line of policy, to make submissions through him to the County level, in order to keep control of land use within the Count It was noted several cities have already registere interest in this program and full participation is hoped for. Buena Vista Lagoon: A Planning Department map was exhibited showing areas ringing the lagoon and'the Planning Director stated it was possible for the City to submit a grant for matching funds f.or open space use and pick up the remaining lots not in use for develop- ment and access into the lagoon. This area could then be utilized as a park, with picnic tables, rest areas, water use areas, etc., in an effort to beautify the lagoon and make it more usable. Dis- cussion and examples of how the City could obtain this land followed. It was agreed the Wildlife ' Conservation Agency shou views in this regard, to Id be contacted for their see if the City could be e t a n. a Y* d COMMlSSlONERS 1 Mot ion Ayes f COMMISSIONERS CITY OF CARLSBAD -3- a participating agency or the agency controlling this use of the lagoon. Also, an informal meeting with the property owners at the lagoon should be held prior to presentation of this proposal to the City Council. Another possibilFty was including Oceanside in this action because of.their obvious interest in the lagoon. This discussion closed wi.th agreement to setting up meetings with the property owners, the Planning Commission and department representatives, and 'others wiih a vital interest in the lagoon's devel opmen t. Grant Specific Plan: Mr. Johnston brought the Commissioners up-to-date on this continued reclassification and specific plan application. He explained the specific plan has been changed and, enlarged in scope, and furth discussed the Planning Department's thoughts regar ing this development as to use, access streets to the freeway, tie-in streets to the development, parking, etc. Following this discussion with the Commission, a further meeting with the applicant as well as a meeting with adjacent property owners is necessary. Mr. Johnston further stated that the applicant now proposes a complete "freeway service facility" on this property, which is con- sidered a prime location for such facilities. Dis- cussion followed as to the types of buildings, heights, multiple story buildings, etc., as may be included in this specific plan. Further discus ion indicated other areas in the' City where multiF story buildings or buildings over 35 feet high could be used satisfactorily. Development Concepts and Controls: The Planning Director presented his chart and othe graphic material to explain his thoughts for possi ble future land use requests. This dealt with the urban problems and, potential and covered urban stimulii, trends of growth, density, etc. for citi like Carlsbad. He also utilized certain statistfo obtained from the special census information for the various areas within the .City. Possible solutions to existing problems in the Cit changed attitudes, examples set by other cities, and brief discussions of. Items a thru e under this topic were presented. Mr. Ollnghouse also present booklet-type reports on some of these topics, and discussed proposals and alternatives to urban problems from these reports. ADJOURNMENT: The discussions were adjourned at 11:05 P.M. espectfully submitted1 d4 ancy Jo L a der Recording' Skcretary r c % e- S d