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Home My WebLink About1972-05-09; Planning Commission; Minutes.-. CI TV OF CARLS5AD MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DAT.E : MAY 9, 1972 PLACE: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS TIME: 7:30 P.M. ROLL CALL: CITY STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: D.A. AGATEP, G.W. ANEAR, J.B. ARNOLD, H.T. COOK, J. KING, R.S. OSBURN, J.E. SPANO. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 25, 1972 WERE APPROVED BY PROPER VOICE VOTE AS SUBMITTED. WRITTEN COMMUNICATION: SECRETARY DOMINGUEZ REFERRED LETTER RE: AB1301 FROM COUNTY COUNSEL FOR ATTENTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION. .. ORAL COMMUNICATION:. 'NONE . PUBLIC HEARINGS: (A) CONTINUED - AMENDMENT TO GENERAL PLAN AND ADOPTIOh OF A SPECIFIC PLAN - REQUEST FOR C\'N AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT (RESIDENTIAL DENSITY'PORTION) OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ADOPTION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN ON PROPER E. OF PI0 PIC0 DRIVE, BOUNDED BY ELM AVENUE AND TAMARF AVENUE. APPLICANT: PLANNING DEPARTMENT ........................... READING OF THE STAFF REPORT WAS WAIVED AND MR. AGATEP REQUESTED A FURTHER CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM. SEVERAL QUESTIONS WERE RAISED BY THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE AMENDMENT, INCLUDING IF WAITING TO ACT ON THIS AMEND- MENT WOULD RESTRICT THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN ANY WAY. NO RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE IMPOSED ACCORDING TO STAFF. MR. AGATEP SUGGESTED THAT- PERHAPS SOME EXPLANATION RE: AB1301 SHOULD BE MADE TO THE AUDIENCE. CITY ATTORNEY MOE ADVISED THAT AB1301 DID NOT APPLY TO THIS ITEM. AFTER DISCUSSION IT WAS DECIDED BY THE COMMISSION THAT NO DECISION SHOULD BE MADE ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE IN- ADEQUACIES SURROUNDING AB1301 HAD BEEN CLEARED UP BY SACRAMENTO. THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE WAS GRANTED UPON MOTION BY MR. PALMATEER. (B) ZONE CHANGE AND ADOPTION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN - REQUEST FOR A ZONE CHANGE .FROM R-1 AND R-3 TO R-P AND ADOPTION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN F0R.A MOTEL AS PART OF FREEWAY ORIENTED SERVICE FACILITY. APPLICANT: W. JOSEPH PARIS1 MR. AGATEP PRESENTED THE STAFF .REPORT OF MAY 9, 1972 WHICH COVERED THE APPLICANTS REQUEST AND GAVE THEIR """"""""""""""""""""""""""" REASONS.AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. A GRAPHIC ILLUS- "TRATION WAS USED TO POINT OUT THE PROPERTY UNDER CON- SIDERATION AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SECRETARY DOMINGUEZ REPORTED NO CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. MR. DONALD SCHOLL, THE APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVE, WAS PRESENT TO EXPLAIN THAT THE APPLICANT WASASKING APPROVAL OF EXTENSION OF THE PLAN ALREADY APPROVED. HE ADVISED THAT THE RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF; THAT A WATER LINE OF THE SIZE RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY ENGINEER WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED; AND AGREED THAT CONDIT.ION NO. 13 COMMISSIONERS 'RESENT ABSENT 4OT I ON 4Y ES VOES Y K YOT I ON 4YES NOE s CITY OF CARLSBAD - 2 " -. SHOULD BE AMENDED TO READ "OR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS GRAND IS APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER". AVENUE IS IMPROVED, OR OTHE-R SA,TISFACTORY DRAINAGE PLA THE FOLLOWING WERE PROPOSED CHANGE: M MAX SCHAEFFER, 994 AVE.; AND CHAPLAIN .. THERE BEING NO ONE CHANGE, THE PUBLIC AFTER A'LENGTHY DI . .. PRE,SENT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSIT'ION To T HOME AVE.;JOSEPH MISKOV, 984 HOME R.S. JANE BAYLARD, 1012 HOME AVE. ; AND 'MRS. CJI LLIAMS. PRESENT TO 'SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 8:lO. CUSSION BY THE COMMZSSION IT WAS co, S CLUDEQ'THAT THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE WAS AN APPROPRIAT USE.FOR THE AREA, AND UPON.MOTION BY MR. NORMAN, RESO- LUTION 784 AND 785'WAS ADOPTED BY. A MAJORITY VOTE. - " (c> ZONE CHANGE AND ADOPTION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN - REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE' FROM :R-T AND R-1 TO P-c AND ADOP~ION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN. FOR A 41.8 UNIT PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. APPLICANT: HUNTS PARTNERSHIP """"""""""""""""""""""""""" THE STAFF REPORT OF MAY 9, 1972 WAS READ BY MR.' AGATEP THIS REPORT INCLUDED THEIR REASONS AND CONDITIONS.OF APPROVAL, AND ADVISED OF A CHANGE ,IN THE NUMBER OF UNI PROPOSED IN THEIR ORIGINAL APP.LICATION.FROM 418 TO 410 SECRETARY DOMINGUEZ REPORTED NO CORRESPONDENCE ON. THIS AGENDA ITEM. MR LARRY HUNT, THE APPLICANT, MADE QUITE A .LENGTHY ERTY IN ITS PRESENT STATE AND THE CHANGES PROPOSED TO MADE ON THE 23-PLUS ACRE PARCEL TO BE CALLED "PAPAGAY BY THE BAY". 'PRESENTA.T.ION USING A SERIES OF SLIDES SHOWING THE PROP MR. K.L. HAYASH1,'LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT; DESCRIBED THE THAT IT WOULD BE FULLY MAINTAINED. .LANDSCAPE PROJECT PLANNED FOR PAPAGAYO AND ADVISED ' DI.SCUSS.ION BY THE COMM1,SSION INCLUDED QUESTIONS REGARD OPEN SPACE.REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT THIS. PROJECT WAS INCLUDED UNDER MORATORIUM ON'PLANNED COMMUNITY PROJECTS, THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AND FUT MAINTENANCE OF THE LAGOON. THE QUE.STION OF DENSITY WA RAISED ALSO. THESE SUBJECTS OF CONCERN WERE ANSWERED, BY THE STAFF INSOFAR AS EXPLAINING THAT STREETS WERE HAD BEEN.MADE.PRIOR TO MORATORIUM, AND'THAT BOTH DENS1 AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAD BEEN MET WITH DENSITY, IN FACT, LOWER THAfl SET OUT IN THE GENERAL PLAN. THERE WA NO DECISION AS TO .CARE OF THE LAGOON .. A PETITION WITH 102 SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION TO THE PR POSED DEVELOPMENT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMISSION. MR. ?OBERT CRABTREE OF 4070 HARBOR DRIVE WAS THE PRINCIPAL SPOKESMAN FOR THE GROUP, HE OUTLINED THE.IR MANY REASONS FOR ASKING FO'R DEN-IAL OF THIS PROJECT. INCLUDED AS PART'OF OPEN SPACE, THAT THE APPLICAT'ION OT I 0.N YES OES b IG !E /' COMMISSlOf\lERS CITY OF CARLSBAD - .. -3- ,OTHER RESIDENTS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSEC CHANGE WERE: HARRY TRUAX,. 4125 HARBOR DRIVE; VALERIE COLES, 470 CHINQUAPIN; KEN MEYER, 4045 HARBOR DRIVE; HUGH MOORE AND MRS. MOORE, 745 CHINQUAPENj- RICHARD.COC 4130 HARBOR DRIVE; AND. MRS. EILEEN HOWARD, 4075 HARBOF DRIVE; ALSD, A'RS. CAROL FRENCH, 903 CHINQUAPIN. MR. ROBERT BAUMG.ARTEri OF SAN DIEGO GAS E ELECTRIC CO. WAS 'PRESENT TO EXPLAIN THAT A.SATISFACTORY AGREEMENT HAD NOT YET BEEN REACHED BETWEEN HIS COMPANY AND HUNTS P-ARTNERSHIP REGARDING THE LAGOON 'AND THEIR PROGRESS WOULD BE REPORTED ON LATER. CERTAIN CONDITIONS MUST BE MET " FOR APPROVAL BY SDGEE. FIR. W. G. ALLEN, 9 1 BLUE SKY 'LN., OCEANSIDE; MR.. E. TRE MR. N. :IILLER 3540 -HARBOR DRIVE WERE PRESENT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. THE PRESENTATION CONCLUDED, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AT.l0:15. .. 501 CHINQUAP.IN; .MR: JOHN FOX, 4215 HARRISON ST.; AND """"""""""""-""""-~"""""""""- THE COMMISSION ASKED .SEVERAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF WITH A PUMP STATION AND TRAFFIC THE ITEMS OF MAJOR CONCERE THEY WERE ADVISED BY MR. COOK, CITY ENGINEER, THAT TRAFFIC WAS NOT AN APPARENT PROBLEM AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THAT REGARD COULD BE INCLUDED IF NEEDED. A MOTION WAS MADE-FOLLOWING DISCUSSION TO APPROVE .. RESOLUTION NO. 786 SUBJECT TO THE CONDI-TI,ONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND THE ADDITIONS THERETO REQUESI BY THE COMMISSION. CHAIRMAN JOSE RECESSED THE MEETING AT 10:35 FOR TEN MI WHEN THE MEETING RESUMED, -ALL THOSE PRESENT AT THE TI) RECESS WERE AGAIN. PRESENT. ". (D) ZONE CHANGE AND ADOPTION OF A SPECIFIC PLAN" REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE F'ROM R-3 TO RD-M (RESI- DENTIAL DENSITY MULTIPLE) AND AN ADOPTION. OF A SPECIFI P L.AN .' APPLICANT:. TITLE .INSURANCE AND' TRUST co. ""_"_""""""""""""""""""""""" THE STAFF.REPORT READ BY MR. AGATEP OUTLINED THEIR APPROVAL AND CON.DITIONS OF APPROVAL. THE AREA UNDER E J. I CDNSIDERATTOP.! IS .IN -A?! .??EA WHERE THE GENERAL PLAN lJAS AMENDED AND iJAS INDICATED ON A GRAPHIC SHOWN BY MR. AGATEP. c SECRETARY DOM'INGUEZ READ A COMMUNICATION FROM EDWARD H. .AND KATHLEEN W. MARX PROTESTING THE PROPOSED CHANGE OF ZONE. THE APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVE, MR. DALE NAGLE - ARCHI- TECT, ADVISED THAT HE WAS PRESENT IN ORDER TO-ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE APP.LICATION MADE BY TITLE INSURANCE CO.. 1 ,4OT I ON 4Y ES qOES JTES. OF CITY OF CARLSEAD -4- CONTMISSIONERS MR. ROBERT. C. KNAUF, ATTORNEY, 810 MISSION AVENUE, REPRESENTING MR. ROBINS0N;SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE OF ZONING AS DID SAMMY STANBROUGH,, GARFIELD ST., S. FORMAN, OCEAN MANOR, AND TONY HOWARD-JONES, 3985 PARK DR.. UPON MOTION.BY MR. FORMAN, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY AGREED MAIN OBJECTIONS THE NON-CONFORMITY TO EXISTING BUILDIFGS AND NOTHING TO COVER HIGH RISES IN THE GENERAL PLAN. THAT THE CHANGE.~HOU'LD' BE DENIED, LISTING AS THEIR IT WAS. ALSO"AGREED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMISSION THAT T_HE GENERAL PLAN BE .. AMENDED TO COVER HIGH RISES. MOTION AYES NOES NEW BUSINESS (A) THE REPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER RE': APPLEBY INVESTMENT DEV.ELOPMENT APPEAL WAS: REFERRED .BY .THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. (B) R. OSBURN ASKED THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF A HOUSE MOVE FROM 1006 ELM AVENUE TO 2475 TUTTLE ST.. AFTER A SHORT DISCUSSION, MOTION WAS MADE BY CHAIRMAN JOSE THAT THE HOUSE MOVE BE APPROVED. THE POSSIBILIT OF A MORATORIUM ON HOUSE MOVING WAS REFERRED TO THE STAFF AND CITY MANAGER FOR EVALUATION. OLD BUSINESS \ MOT I ON AYES (A) MR. FORMAN RECOMMENDED THAT THE CONTINUED ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BE POSTPONED SINCE THE STAFF HAD NOT COMPLETED THEIR REPORTS AS YET. I COMMITTEE REPORTS: NONE AT THIS POINT, COMITTEE MEMBER LITTLE SUGGESTED THAT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OR PLAN SHOWING WHAT THE ACTIVI-Y FUTURE PROJECTS INCLUDED. THIS BROUGHT UP THE QUESTI(N NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON HELP FOR THE INDIVIDUAL MORE TtAN THE LARGE DEVELOPER WAS POINTED OUT AS A MEANS OF REDICING WORK LOAD., CHAIRMAN JOSE ADVISED THAT HE WOULD AGAIN THE WORK LOAD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ADJOURNMENT: THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 12:30 A.M. BY PROPER VOI(:E VOTE. . MOT I ON RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, ' OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN TO DATE, WITH ALL 1. OF ENOUGH STAFF TO HANDLE THIS ADDITIONAL WORK. THE ADVISE.THE, COUNCIL OF THE NEED .FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF FCIR AYES LIZ ESTEU, ACTING SECRETARY ~