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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-03-09; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting of: Date of Meeting: Tm of Meet ing: Place of Meeting: CALL 'ID CHER: -MINUTES PI.ANN~ CCM1ISSIOl March 9, 1983 7:00 p.m. City Council Chant>ers 'lhe meeting was cal11>d to order by Chairman Schlehuber at 7:02 p.m. PLEIXiE OF ALUX;IAOCE was led by Chairman Schlehuber. Otairman Schlehuoer announced the Plannioo Ccmni.ssion Procedure as printed on the reserve sioe of the A,qenda and qave a short sunmary of the Procedure. IOLL CALL: Present -Chairman Schlehuber, Carrnissioners Marcus, Farrow, Jose arrl Rawlins. Calmissioner loTtlotis arrived at 7:04 p.m. Ccmnissioner Friestedt arrived at 7:07 p.m. Absent -lt>rle. Staff Ment>ers Present: Bill Hofmml, Principal Planner Clyde Wickham, Assistant Civil Engineer Ex--Officio Meri:>ers Present: Michael Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manaqer Daniel Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney ~ f(ackley, City Enqineer 1. CT 83-2/CP-2~3~S'l'ANl:lMD PACIFIC -Request IIIIJPr'OYal of a pl lopnent consisting of 192 for detached single-family units and 392 attached units. Aleo, a variance request to reduce the front yard setback on several of the units. 'the property is located at thee istinq east end of Poinsettia Lane, inmdiately north of the Spinnaker Hills develOfX!lent in the 11>-M zone. Bill Hof'lllln, Principal Planner, qave the staff report, uaing a transparency to show the locatia, of the site, a,d wall !lllp8 to point out the major features of the ftopc.wed Sea Pinee project. 'there will be 584 units1 the ~them portioo will oonaist of 192 single-family patio t.-and the northern portia, will coosist of 392 txMlhou.... '1he patio hollles will have a lot width of 4 5 to 65 tNt-..aller than a regular family dwelling, but that IO.lld be allowable in the RDI Zale with a Planned D1Yelop11nt permit. '1he floor areas would range fran 1, 178 to 1 , 928 aquare feet. '1he patio hane project meets the •undarda of the Planned Developnent Ordinance. '1he IA)liom'lt varied the front and side setbacks and alao had one and two-story atructuAS throughout. 'lbere ID.lld be a landllelf)ed buffer ala,g the prq,erty at the a:iuth end to eeparate the townhouaes fran the sinqle taily dawlQEant, 'lbere are two different types of ~, A -a townhouse unit with detached two-car garage eaparated by a private patio. B -a tOWMOU&e I.Slit with a t.o-car garage shared by two units with the other required spaoe at th end of the structure in the fani of a gar-..e at the end of a aixplex. MINUTES P~IN'., CXHUSSI~ March 9, 1983 Page 2 Staff did have ooncerns with the design, but the trade- offs offered by ~licant were sufficient to justify ~roval. 'lllere would be a dominance of driveway area and asphalt, with several units entirely surrounded by pavement. Also, the design is linear and might create a IIDlOtooous view when driving through the project. 'ltiere would be a~ of garage courts with garages facing gara-1es, which staff tries to discourage whenever possible. Fifteen percent of parking for the B units would be nore than 150 feet away fran the unit, which would not be against the Ordinance, but would not ronply with s taff policy. '!tie design tra&H:>ffs would include ocean views to the West for iroet units and the recreation areas would be substantial. 'lllere would bet'"'° major recreation areas with a third passive area with view points. All units would have a private patio or balcony. 'Ille variance request is to reduce the setback a, the driveway side of the street to 8 feet fran 20 feet and increase the setback a, the q:iposite side of the street by 12 feet. 'Ille result wnoJld be less hardscape: nore landscape: acl'litiooal guest parking: meandering sidewalk; with a rtet result of a greatly iffl>roved street scene. Staff does not support the variance request as they felt cars would park in the driveways and hang over into the street, creating a hazard, and because the mandatory findings fer a variance cannot be !lade. Comnissioner Rawlins asked if the narrowing of POinsettia Lane had been resolved, since it droR:>ed fran 43 feet to 32 feet. Comnissioner Jose also restated the same questia, and the blueprint was nnunted on the wall to show the difference in the street. Clyde Wickham, Assistant Engineer, SlSWered the standard was 102 feet and it is standard where it carried to El Camino Real. ca.niasioner Marcus asked what the dispoeitia, was on the property to the West, as she thought that was to be an open space or a trail. Bill Hofman answered that a tentative fflllP had been a{:Proved for one half of the property, but it was not developed. Staff would be requiring an open-space corridor through the prq,erty. Cbaiman Schlehuber opened the public hearing at 7: 17 p.a. and issued the invitatia, to speak. Bob AllM, 7290 Clairacnt Mesa Boulevard, San Diego, the IA)licant, adl!reued the Colllnissioo and gave a brief hiatary of the propaty. 'Ille original tentative 111111P fer thia project had been allowed to lapse and they then t9dNigmd the project. '1lley studied over sixty ct.v.lqaenta in the area to oome up with the best plan fer thia ■ite. He referred to the several exhibits t:h9Y had pnpared to show the design, with a wall fflllP ahowing the patio hcalHs a, the aouth and the townhouses a, the north, aeparated by the extensioo of POinsettia Law. '1ht property alopee from the West toward the East and riaea gantly n eets up views a, the east half, with a tiering effect to provide views. Both typee of patio hmN will have ten feet between houses as a useable area MINUTES ~ch 9, 1983 and part of outside activities. The theme is Spanish and the applicant used charts to show the camussioo the OJnerete tile roof and front wall which would tie the hemes together, with landscaping of trees and nvurr:iing, all to be maintained by the haneowners' associatioo. On the South l:loumry, the lots are approximately 100 feet deep where they bacJc up to the Spinnaker Hills developnent. '1he townhou."14!s will be four and sixplexes of Spanish design with balconies and a lot of wcx:>d trim. F.ach townhouse owner will own his own .LOt and the haneowners ' associatioo will have an easement to maintain outside of the private patios. 'Ihere will be a front and rear patio for each townhouse. Marketing surveys show townhouse owners want their own identity, and because of this, they wanted street orientatim. 'lhat Wll'f visitors can find them, a.s they will each have their own address, and they wa,'t have green courts that are difficult to get to. Qiests can park in front of the t.owrilouses. Also, two-car qaraqes are preferred, and each of these townhouses will have a two-car garage, either together or split, which will give variety and choice to the heme owners. As far as recreatioo, there would be three areas. In the adult area there would be a swimning pool, two tennis courts and other activity areas. In the northwest area there would be a multi-purpose court for the young peq:,le and a tot area with grass. On the northeast oorner there would be a vista point with a gazebo and a barbecue and perhaps a jacuzzi. 'Ihere would be an area isolated and screened foe 'FN's arrl it would meet all requirements for TN parking. '!he request for the variance would inprove the quality of the street scene for the townhouses and it would not increase the density. '1he additiooal landscaping would not increase the ooet nx:ti over streetscaping. Mr. Allan used the wall charts to show the setbacks being requested and expressed the hq>e that the ca.issioo micjlt be able to approve. fie agreed that if there were parking there, the cars overhanging into the street could create a hazard, but the pa1:kinq requirements are exceeded in the project and there llhould not be a parking problem. Mr. Alla, alqllied the Camli.ssioo with an aerial photograph alk.Ming Poinsettia Lane as a separate item. He stated the Willdan study 8A)rOIIChed routing of roads • far u potential adjustment to the Circulatioo Bl.ant, the &Me as the EIR showed alternatives. ~ lhowing • propoaed alternative, they tried to meet that objective. 'lbe alternative was shown oo the photograph by• t:roken line and conformed with the City's adopted Qaneral Plan and the City Council and Planning Ocawlaicn Nip of 1974. '1he poeaible realigrnent of the General Pla\ for Poinsettia would not achieve nu::h. If MINUTES March 9, 1983 the street prooeeded Msterly, it would wipe out the greenhouses and Mr.'lha!p3oo's hane. Cl!e east of there is major canya1 and the road would have to go into the canya1 and up the other side. Mr. Allan stated they had oontacted all the adjacent prq,erty owners and informed them what they intended to do and after this was explained, the property owners were not too roncerned. Olairman Schlehuber asked Bill Hofman to put the aerial i:notograJ:h on the wall so everyone could view it. camnissiooer Joee asked if the hane owners would have access to the recreation areas to the North and Mr. Al l11n said it was their intention to have two associatims with a contractual agreement between the two. Cannissioner Joee expressed agreement with the staff on the variance denial. He felt peq>le with two cars that had a 8e<Xlnd parking space 150 feet awlf'f would park in fralt of the residence and could cause a problem, particularly if they parked in the driveway and blocked the sidewalk. Mr. Allan stated there was sufficient street width so they could park on the street. 'lhere would be parking on at least one side of the street. 'lhe project exceeded guest parking requirements and they oould park on the street and not in the drivewtrf. Comnissioner Jose asked if the street would be siqned on one side and Mr. Allan agreed there 1oOUld be no parking oo one side of the street. Mr. Douglas I.edsam, with Standard Pacific, spoke fran the audience to say the guest parking exceeded the requirement tr,, 3.4 times. camnissioner Farrow asked if Standard Pacific of San Diego, a wholly owned subsidiary, was a privately-owned oorpxatioo, and Mr. Allan said it was a public oor:poratioo on the New York Stock Exchange. Olaiman Schlehuber asked about parking on the side wiere the garages would be and asked if it would be pouible to park on that side of the street rather than in the driveway. Mr. Allan said that would be the no parking aide of the street~th everyone parking on one aide of the street. Olairman Schlehuber felt there would not be too nuch spaoe for parking-even parallel parking. oi-tut.a.r Rlllfline asked to be shown the particular ~ .._,. the variMCe awlied and Mr. Allan pointed thia out on the wall IIIIIPIJ 'lhere the A type and the B type faoe the street and face each other. He nplain.d that if they looked out the window, the diat.nc. wu1d be about 98 feet, which would be similar to a noral IIUbdiviaioo single fanily residence. oi-tuianer Ra,lin■ alao Mkad about the lack of a racNatian ar. in the South portion. Mr. Allan ap1.a1ned that the pdvate ymd areas would far exceed that of a noral patio hale. In the lllllaller units that wu1d be• aingl• atory, the rear yard IO.lld be llfflllller. In the larcJk unita, the lllinialn IOlld be 30 feet deep, llh!Clh wu1d t. M dNI> Ma single faily yard-the width wu1d t. narrower. MINUTES P~ CDIUSSIOI March 9, 1983 Page Comnissicner Farrow asked again about the variance and the purpose it served. He stated it didn't appear to take anythirq ll.Wl!l'j from the type B unit-they just varied the garage setbadcs and expanded the front yards. Mr. Allan assured him ti'lat was the intent, and this area would be maintained by the haneo-mers. It 110Uld be a benefit to both units to have nore green area in front as ClA)Oeed to deeper driveways. 'ltte B units ~d sit far bade, if the variance was not ~roved. Olairnan Schlehuber oontinued the public hearing by askirq for audience testinaly at 7:41 p.m. Mrs. Jean Shipley, 928 Daisy Avenue, addressed the Comnissim. She lives at the corner of Ivy and Daisy and eJq>ressed ooncern as to whether the heavy runstructi.oo machinery would use that access to the building site. Douglas Ledsam, Standard Pacific, used the wall maps to indicate the road serving the greenhooses would be used to br:'ing in the heavy equii:ment until such time as Poinsettia would be passable. He indicated they haci ~ intent1oo of using Daisy and Ivy for equii:ment. Cli.ntoo VOltlller, 7104 Primrose, (nunt>er 53 on the map aipplied to the Comnissioo) Spinnaker SutxHvisioo, asked when Poinsettia would be <Xllpleted. 'ltte Spinnaker Subdivisioo is 303 detached hemes and they would be adding about 600 more, and he was ooncerned about the traffic congestioo in the norning and evening hours. He asked if any provisions had been la!e to handle that congestioo. Clyde Wickham, Assistant Civil Erqineer, stated that Poinsettia would be inpacted. 'lttere was ooncern about this problt!ftl, but without developnent, there can't be roads. oineettia is a half-street and on the north side, ~-oveaent is anticipated in a yi>ar or so. 'ltlere will be oongestioo at Batiquitos and Poinsettia, but it would not exceed the level of a half-street. Chairmn Schlehuber asked when Poinsettia Lane would be ocntinued through to El Cmnino Real and Mr. Widcham Aid it wuld hlA>en as 80Cll'l as possible as the develq,er utend8 thJ road. City BnginNr Rc7,' Kkttley said that the answer to that quatiCl'l wuld oc:ae aa the area is devel~, but aould not be •• ntld at this time. 0,-1uianer PriNtedt ask.ad staff to give Mr. Voltmer --kind of • beoct-.rk • to the oongestioo and Mr. Widtba aid the trip load on Poinsettia should not -..d 30,000 and that wa only ~roximately half of the Ualt fer • •jar street. '1be City BnginNr ldl!ec! that the br:'idge oo Poinsettia earoa the tndut ia under deeign now and will be built within the next year. MINUTES P~ <XJIUSSI~ March 9, 1983 Page 6 'lhurman Shipley, 928 Daisy Avenue, spoke to the Comnissiscn, stating that i t looked as though the recreatioo facilities were for the townhouses and ncne for the houses, where there would be chil~ren. He stated the O!lrs speed oo Daisy and if the children play in the street, it would create a serious hazard. Also, he stated the people in the Spinnaker Subdivisioo had bt!en promised a hoffleowners' assocatioo and that never beane a reality. He a,,ked about the land lower than his lot (m.wmer 27 oo the map supplied to the Comnissioo) and were they going to fill that land up to the level of his property. Mr. Ledsam said they intended to fill very slightly and make a slight cut, b.lt the grade differential was very close to the present ground contours. Mr. Shipley said when he first noved into his home, he had to install drainage and ivy oo the bank. He asked whose job it was to take care of the ivy and stated he would like to have a wall there. Mr. Ledsmn said the sl ope is owned by Standard Pacific and would transfer to the 'iane owner at the time of sale and then it would be that owner's respoosibility. Mr. Allan stated there was never any intentioo to have a hoffleowners' asscx:iatioo in Spinnaker, as it is a private eubdivisioo. Since oo ale else wished to speak oo the matter, Chairman Schlehuber closed the public testim:lny at 7: 55 p.m. Cclllllissicner Jose stated he did not find any mentioo in the Resolutioo about the •oo parking• oo ale side of the street and he would like to see that included, if it be<Xlmes neoeesary. Clollmissicner Frie£tedt carrrented that a variance had been granted for-a subdivisioo at Rancho Santa Fe and La Cneta for-driveways down to three or four feet. Bill Hofman answered that at the time of its approval, the exating P.u.o. Ordinance required garage setbacks of either five feet or-greater than twenty feet, to keep the cars fta11 extending into the street. 'ltlis saire requ~t-. proposed in the new Planned Developnent Oidinanoer and, in fact, was aoopted by the PlaMing O:W-1 •ion. At the Council level, however, this was 001'1UOINn:'8ial and the Council required that garages dlntotly fronting onto a street that served nore than ~ unita had to have a twenty-foot setbadc. O:W-1Nioner labota asked the staff if they oould ~ the plainincJ concept of the varianoe i f it were not 1n violatia\ of the Ordinance. Mr. fk>fman said it Wl1ld be viaually are acceptable, b.lt he felt the (JU'IIIJea ehoold be set back between five and seven feet to IM>id traffic conflicts of oars which overhang into the atreet. O:W-1Nioner Pri•tedt stated that Council had request ed "-' the O:W-1uioo had AO ndationa from the P,1.a1•u.r1r11 Dlpatwit and couldn't alte findings that were 1101:llllPtal:~•• the O:wduia, should include in the Minutes their no: mtionll and the ideu of staff. 'lhe \.:a--1..an ~•t find in flM>r of the varianoe, but it abculd be rlOUld that they felt it would be nore and Wl1ld enhanoe the developnent. If the egned on that, it should be 11«1t fc:rward to 11. MINUTES March 9, 1983 Page 7 Olait1Mn Schlehuber said he felt the garage setbacks should be five to seven feet instead of eight feet as proposed by the awlicant. Qanissioner Raltx>tis stated the awlicant had adequate parking and the variance would enhance the appearance of the project, but he rould not make the findings of a variance. Ocfflnissioner Marcus cxxrmented she lives in an older oondornini1.111 where the driveways are about two feet long · ~ the 11PBt, and it is workable, as the st.orter driveway precludes anyone parking there. Camdssioner Farrow suggested a IX>ll be taken of the Camdssia, and put in the Minutes. He said he would nove that as part of the Minutes the Comnissia, was roncerned by rot being able to find in favor of the variance because of the present standards, but felt there was value to the variance as requested. Chait1Mn Schlehuber stated that if the variance were l!R>roved, it should be five feet for the driveways. Also, he wanted the notia, to include that although the variance was denied, the Comnissia, rec:DT111ended to the City COuncil that this was a good project and if the variance could be granted, it should be five feet. 'ttlat would be safer and would be visually enhancing to the project. Cklnnissioner Rarbotis agreed with Chainnan Schlehuber and aMed that if the Council granted the variance, garage door openers should be included on the short driveways. 1'le Planning Cannissia, adopted the following Resol.utioo: ~ 00. 2091, DENYJN. A VARIANCE 'IO R:Dx:!E THE PKNl' YARD SE'l1WlC 00 UNITS 'mAT IIEB'l' CBR'l'AIN ClU'reRIA OI pll)pERTY GENERAILY ux:ATED AT THE EXISfJN. ~ END OF POINSE'ITIA LANE Dll!:DIATELY OOlmf OF 'lliE SP~ HILLS ~- 'lHE CXMUS.SIOI ~ 'IO CITY' <XX.JNCIL 'l1IAT IP THE VMIA1«:E IS GRAtffED, THE LFlCm CF TRE ~ SfDJU> BE FIVE FEET All:) GAMGB ~ OPl!NERS SfDJID BE n«::I.UIE> POR 'Dom GMAGBS. 'DIE CXMUS.SIOI PELT 'l1fE VMINO ~ JtBl'IPIED R> IQJlD 1!NHANCE 'l1fE PRlJBCI' AL'DIU.H IT cnJU> ter BE APPHJV'ED llllBR amRl!ffl' ST.wli\RDS. 'l1Mt Plaining ec.dasia, adopted the following Rll80lution1 JIISCUn'IOI 00. 2090, RBCDN!Nl>l~ APPIOVAL OF A 'lllf'!Yd'tVB TIW.'T ~ AND ClHXMINllJil PEHIIT OI H<lHlkl"f <l!NBRALLY I.OCA'l'BD AT 'l1fE EXI~ ~ IN) ~ PODB'l"1'IA 1MB DIIEDIATELY t«>Jml OF THE SP:IJINMBR HILLS D8VEI£1lMENl'. ALOO, 'DIE NJ>l'l'ICIW.. <XH>ITICH; SID.ILD BE AIDED 'IO Dl>ICM'B ti) PARl(D«, OI OIB SIDE OP TRE STREET MC> '111B DflVIWPBR WILL ter USE DMSY Ali:l IVY SiWIS 'ro '1'MNBPCRI' HEAVY QJIPMl!Nl' 'IO 'l1fE PIOJBCTSITE. Schlehuber X Rarbotis X Marcus X Farrow X X Rawlins X Jose X Friestedt X Schlehuber X Rclltx>tis X Marcus X Parrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Frieetedt X MINUTES March 9, 1983 Page 8 2. aJP-226 -BMBIE'S I1Nll lEPOl' -Request for approval of ·a cxindltlcnal use permit to allow a sandwich shop in a portioo of an industrial building at 5375 Avenida Encinas in the Carlsbad Comnercial Center in the P-M 2'JOne. Bill Hofman gave the staff presentatioo as oontained in the staff repcrt. Chai man Schlehuber q>erled the public hearing at 8: 07 p.m. and issued the invitatioo to speak. 'lbe 11(:plioant was present but did not wish to address the camlissioo. Since no ooe wished to speak oo this 11\'ltter, the public testimony pcctioo was closed at 8:08 p.m. 'lbe Plannning camlissioo adopted the following Resolutioo: REOOI111'I~ 1'(). 2088, APPRJllll,(; A <nlDITIOU\L IEE PEfflIT '10 ALI.JJ,J A SAN™!Oi SOOP~ PIOPERTY' CDERAILY ux:ATED AT SUI're B, 5375 AVEN~ ENCINAS. DI~I~ I'IDIS: 3. SCI> 83-1 -BlXXX>LA. -Request for awroval of a site developnent plan to allow the grading of a 5. 1 acre parcel of C-1-Q zmed property located at the sootheast corner of Int erstate 5 and Poinsettia Lane. Bill Hofman gave the staff presentatioo, using a transparency showing the site locatioo. 'lttis is a ~t for approval of grading on a future oomnercial developnent. COlmdssiooer Jose recalled a previous plan for that site involving four filling statioos. Bill Hofman stated that plan had been deleted and no filling statiau; are planned for that site at the present ti.me. Chairnn Schlehuber asked if the awlicant desired to ake a preaentatioo and invited his cx:mnents at 8:10 p.11. Phil Bucoola, Bucoola Engineering, Inc., 1000 Quail, suite 240, Newpxt Beach, addressed the camussim. He stated they were in 0011Pliance with the oonditioos and cxinc:urr9I! with the ~tioos of the Planning staff. 'ltlia is ooly a grading permit and not a site clevelqalnt at this tia. 'lbere is a large stodq>ile oo the site, eroding badly, and the grading is necesssary to take care of the eroeioo problem. oaatuiQMr Rawlins asked if all the dirt t be noved will be UNd on the site, and Mr. Bucoola SAJ.d IIR)mlliately 55,000 yards of dirt was in a stockpile cxnUtion at this tbla. 'lbe total annmt will be used in giwting within the five-acre parcel, with nothing uport.ecl and nothing ilpcrted. '1ht p.ablic c:uaient pcrtion was closed at 8: 12 p.m. Schlehuber X IU!tx>tis X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Friestedt X -• MINUTES March 9, 1983 Page 'l1le Planning COlllllission "R)roved the Negative Declaration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and aoopted the following Resolution: RESOWl'I~ 00. 2089, APPRJITIK; SITE lEVEl.CFMEtn' PLAN 00. 83-1, 'l'O ~ fflE GRADIP,l; c»" A 5. 1--ACRE PARCEL ~ PRJPERTY GENERALLY UXATED ~ fflE ~ CORNER OP ~ATE 5 AND POINSETI'IA LANE. 4. ZCA-154, CITY c»" CARLSIW) -A :,.cne oode amerdnent requlating parking in the front ylU"d and street side y.u-d areas on residential lots. Bill Hofman gave the s taff presentation, using a transparency to show the areas covered in the Resolution, as presented in the staff report. 1'le tranaparency showed a comer lot and an interior lot, with RV and private vehicl,• parking allowed on the oorner lot, in the side an a, as long as they were screened. ~ the regular l ">t, the RV could be parked along the side or in thP cear, without screening, but a private vehicle nus~ oe screened. Olairmn Schlehuber inquired about the determination of the front yard foe a comer lot. Rill Hofman answered the front yard is defined as the narro,,est portion of the lot fronting a street. Colllnissioner Jose asked if an RV had to be screened on a oorner lot i f parked on the s ide of the house, and, if ao, would a six-foot fence be permissible. Bill Hofman answered that it would be permissible as long as it did not extend out of the required setback area. Colllnissioner Priestedt s tated that 11Dst RV's are eiqht to ten feet hiqh and a fence would only screen part of the vehicl e. ec.niaaioner Prieetedt asked if you were providing a screen for the RV in the f ront yard area, could you extend the s ix-foot fence fon,ard, and Bill Hofman said that it oould not extend beyald the 20-foot setback. caaiuioner Rawlins questioned the word "prevent" on ~ tw of the a taff repcrt and aaked i f it should read "pre..,t •, and &ta ff agreed that the word was incorrect. caaiuioner Rawlina a l ao queetioned the survey on RV parking that va ade and wiondered if etaff oonaidered that probably 25 percent of the RV's were out of town on that date. 'ftlere could oonoeivably be another 100 RV's that IMl'. not counted, Bill Hofman agreed that was a poaibility. o:-iaaioner Rawlins otat ed this type of RleC>luUon IIIOCka a hardehip on people who have had RV' s for a lan; tia. 'n\e City wi ll not ..ice any money f ran thia Reeolution-it ia juat haraaaing peopl e . He stated he _,_ not in favor or the Rnolution. O\airan Schlehuber stated that perhaps CaRll!u ioner Rawlina ~ld ~t add that to the Mi nutee. oai.iaaioner Marcu■ atated that it ian' t a biq probl em-- that ahe f•lt tMy Wffe ooncemed mainly with oars in the yarda and not neoeuarily the RV'a. Bill ttofrMn uid thay had look-' •t both can and RV'a u t»ing a pcabl.• lf pan-' in the front yard. Schlehuber X ~tis X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Priestedt X MINUTES Page Cannissioner Rawlins asked how many conplaints had been received on P:✓'s specifically and Bill Hofman replied n\.lllerous conplaints had been received over the past !3everal years. cannissioner Farrow corrmented that a hane owner who is not able to catply with the regulations, whether with an RV or a vehicle, does have the right to petition for a variance, and as long as that is possible, he felt the Resolution was acceptable. 'ltle Assistant City Attorney stated that a petition for variance can be made whether or not it is a hardship. COmnissioner Ramotis restated his support for the Resolution as written and strongly urqed the Council to aoopt it. Cannissioner Rawlins stated the comnission had just ~roved a project with over 500 units and only 33 spaces provided for RV's, and no space for them to be parked by the units. Cannissioner Jooe said the C.C.&R. 's would take care of the parking of RV' s and would no doubt preclude parking them any place other than the storage area. Chairman Schlehuber agreed that there might oot be enough parking space for RV's, and they might have to park the overflow vehicles on the street. Cannissioner Ramotis agreed with this, but added this was a different situation from Lakeshore Gardens, where the people are mainly retired and there are nore RV'"· Re felt the survey was accurate, as it was taken just recently, and during the week. Colllnissioner Jose thought it was adE_,,,{Uat e as far as the l'll.lCler of RV spaces available. Colllnissioner Rawlins reiterated his position against the Reeolution and wanted the Council to take into consideration that this is a harassing type of ordinance that ooes the City oo good at all. 'ftie Planning Canniseion aoopted the followinq RNolution: ~~ lfJ. 2092, RECOf'IEJIDDl'., APPIVJAL OF A iii! CXD NBIJll!Nl', MEIDil'l'., TITLE 21 , OiAP'l'BR 21.44, OF 'l'flE CARLSBAD folJNICIPAL ODE BY '11fl All>ITI~ OF SBCTI~ 21.44. 165 JIIOJLM'II«; 'l1tE PARJ{Dl'., OF PRIVATE NI:> MCRP.ATIOW'.. VDIICLES IN fflE f'IOn' YARD .ANO 8l'la'I' SID! YARD AREAS OF RBSIDml'IAL l.Ol'S. 5. SP.ACLIPP (Verbal Presentation) Bill ~ gave the staff report on this item, using a ~ to ahow the location of the prq>erty. 'ltle tl,1Plia.-l wiahee to Adaeign this project from abp1UM Mid eight:p1e:ne to duplexes and detached l.ftita. 'ftlia -«JUld be a nlinor-revision and would create 110 IWW lota. Schlehuber X R:at>otis X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Friestedt X MINUTES Page 11 'l1'le Planring Comnissioo ooncurred with staff 's finding that the change was minor in nature. Clyde Widcham, Assistant Engineer, added a discussioo item to the agenda. 'nle applicant oo Carlsbad Tract No. 81-23 requested an extensioo of time for tentative nap, and has agreed to the additiooal public facilities fee. Olairnan Schlehuber stated no public hearing was necessaI") and the applicant would be granted a one- year extensioo oo the tentative map. Coomissioner Raltx>tis abstained fran this item as he CW'\S prq>erty ck'ljacent to this property. camliss1oner Rawlins stated he also wished to abstain oo th is i tern. 'nle Plam1ing Comnissioo adopted the following Resolutioo: REOOWI'IOl Ki. 2098, APPRJVIN'., PN EX'lffiSIOl CF TIME FDR 'Iml'1\TIVE M1\P CT 81-23 SUBJEX.'T 'JU CERI'AIN COIDITIOlS. CDnmissioner Raltx>tis asked for an additioo to the Minutes of February 23, 1983, page five, as follows: Ccmnissioner Rootx>tis reminded staff that an easement exists oo the site, and to include pennission they exist. 'Ihe Mioo• of the Meetinq held February 23, 1983, were IJIR'roved as amended. By prq:,er-IIDt.ioo, the ting of March 9, 1983, was ldjoumed at 8:35 p.m. iet.t Bllbbitt, Minut Clerk \ Schlehuber X Rccrt,otis X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Friestedt X Schlehuber X Rccrt,otis X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Joee X X Friestedt X @