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Home My WebLink About1983-05-25; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting of: Date of Meeting: Ti.IN! of Meeting: MINUTES Pl.AlfiD[; <lMUSSI~ May 25, 1983 7:00 p.m. Place of Meeting: City Council Charmers CALL 'ro CJUER: 'ffle Meeting was called to order by Chairman Schlehuber at 7:00 p.m. PLEOOE CF ALIB:;INCE was led by Chairman Schlehuber. Chairman Schlehuber announced the Planning Comnissioo Procedure as printed on the reverse side of the Agenda and gave a short SlftlllrY of the Procedure. K>LL CALL: Present: Chairman Schlehuber, Comnissiooers Marcus, Farrow, Rawlins, Jose and Friestedt. Absent: O::mnissialer Ra!tx>tis. Staff Melltlers Present: Bill Hofman, Principal Planner Mik:e Howes, Assistant Planner Paul Klukas, Assistam. Planner Ex-Officio Mentlers Present: Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager Richard Allen, Acting City Engineer Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney 1. V-347, ~ISTER -Request for four variances to the ZOning Ordlnancie for a ptq)OSed condominium oonversioo at 4555 Cove Drive in the R-W za,e, Paul Klukas, Assistant Planner, gave the staff presentatioo oo this item, using a transparency showing the locatia, 11111p and a transparency showing Cove Drive and the parking spaces. Olairman Schlehuber opened the public hearing at 7:09 p.m. and iaaued the invitation to speak. Mr. Lym ~ir, Architect fer the project, 34167 Pacific CDUt Bighlley, Dima Point, addressed the Comnissim, atating the variances should be granted, acoording to at baa been done there mother properties. Mr. Muir paued out oopiee of a map showing Bristol Cove, partiotlu-ly Cove Drive and subject property. Mr. R0C'y Achan, 4555 Cove Drive, owner of the property, idlkeued the 00.1esion, stating he thooght the intent at. the Ordinance was to persuade owners to i.nprove their prq,erty, and this project would aC<Xllll)lish this. Be lldllld he thought the intent was to increase the 89'llilAbility of off-etreet parking. Mr. Rohan said to acx,0llpl tah the required perking space, a partial dlmlitian of the b.Jil.ding would be required, which he felt IMI ., r ~-.ptiooal cittum1taooe. MINUTES May 25, 1983 Page 2 As far as the size of the lot, Mr. Rohan stated his lot is pie-shaped, which maJces it wider than 50 feet at the front, which is the width allowing taooem parkiug. Mr. Rohan stated the pre-zcning was creating a hardship and ilrpoeing greater restrictioos than oo the surrounding property. He felt he was atteflt)ting to meet the intent of the Ordinance and was requesting tandem parking, which was in effect in numerouo places in Brisitol cove, and which w'.lllld be in hanrony with the intent of the Ordinance and General Plan. 1'le granting of these variances would inprove the neighborhood and alleviate the parking, too'l()!! the density, inprove safety and traffic flow, and would be an upgrading fer the area. Mr. Rohan stated they intended to t l:!lrove two bedroam to allow for the eight required parking spaces. 1'le haneowners' associatioo supports this prqx,sed project fully. A letter was handed to the Conmissioners for their perusal. Mr. Rohan stated he purchased the prq>erty in Dece!l'ber and the parking was a "mess•. 'nle building is vacant at the present time, awaiting the outoome of this request, to determine whether they will reirodel for apartments or condaniniUl'IE. 'lttere are "no parking" sicms oo Cove Drive and there is no place to park. 1'le variances are necessary to ronvert to rondominil.lllE. camlissioner Jose asked whether the taooem parking would create problelll3 and Mr. Rohan answered the spaces would be assigned. camdssioner Jose expressed the roncem this woulcl ,4-et a precedent, and Mr. Rohan said it is allo;i,ed there now. Co.mtlssioner Jose said there was no lot that fell into the same category as this one. He oont inued, Rtl!ting that even with seven bedroam, there oould be fc..arteen cars. Mr. Rohan explained that he ..ou.ld be oonplying with the Ordinance as far as required spaces. Q\airman Schlehuber asked Mr. Rohan if he intended to put sprinklers oo the building in the rear. Mr. Rohan indicated the Fire Department had said they might have a probl.e111 reaching the back of the building, but the aprinkl ing system would eol ve that problem. om-tuioner R4wlins asked whether the ooapact parking _. coveted, aid Mr . FdWl answered ooly partially. 'then wuld be f ive spaoetJ fully oovered and the other three would be partially oovered. 1'le building design 1a at an 1nJle anc, the access by the a:mpact-.:;pace would be aoceptable to the Fi re Department. Sinoe no one else wished to speak oo this matter, the pablic teetialny was closed at 7: 24 p. m. om-tut.aner Prieetedt asked staff i f all other at.aidllrdl had been •t other than the variances asked 6:r, ant staff atated they had not fully reviewed the project at thia ti•. Nr. Jllir, t:M project architect, stated the project had at all other requu:..nts for oondcainium ooversioo. MINUTES ~n«.COIUSSI~ May 25, 1983 Page 3 Qlllaiuimer Farrow asked if staff had any <X'lllllllents to nake with regard to tt,e properties shown on the 11111p, and staff caaented all those projects were approved prior to the acq,tion of the Ordinance by the City Council that changed the parking standards. camdssimer Farrow stated he dim't like the tan&im parking, but if this beallle a condolllini1.111, there would be four nore cars off of the street in that area. ca.iuiooer Frieetedt asked staff for: front yard aetback and side yard aetsback and staff answered ten feet fer the front and four feet for the side. Ocali.uiooer Marcus voiced ooncem about ripping out bedt00111B to get mre cars parked and felt they had not aol ved the problem. COlllllissiooer Farrow added it would reduce the density and the on-etreet parking. camdssimer Friestedt asked whether the original R~ 1.ale allowed tan&!m parking, and staff answered it did. ~ the change was mai,e, the parking was changed fran ooe to two spaces per unit for a condominhsn, plus a visita: apace. Tandem parking was eliminated on lots that had a width of greater than 50 feet. Olairman Schlehuber asked staff what effect this parking had on the surrounding lots. Staff felt this precluded good parking dttsign because of the existing building. In the other vacant lot properties, the parking can be designed into the project. Olairmsn Schlehuber asked whether lot size and n~r of units for surrounding properties was known and staff indicated the architect, Mr. Muir, knew this information and would giw the camdssion a 0011Plete nuHXJWfl. Mr. Muir the , read through the properties on the 11111p, giving the lot width and ~r of units for each parcel. Staff advised the camdssioo that the present Ordinance allows 45 percent of visiter parking to be oaipact spaces, but oo this project it would be 50 percent. Olairman Schlehuber oomnented he would have difficulty aeking the first and Be<Xlnd findings fer a vari~.nce. cxmdssiooer Friestedt stated he was against the encroadment into the front-yard setback and side-yard aetback. He aiMec1 the Cc:alissioo did not allow that variance anywhere in the City. Qlairan Schlehuber added that this was a request fer a variance in a special area where it is a small, dense area vith a lot of front yard parking. 'J.be Ckadssion detenained this was the first request fer yari.noe and oi:nt:ainil.a oonversioo si~ the new Oldinanoe went into effect. Qcaliuioner Ralina ocaMnted on the alteratioos that have been l8l.1lt to the building, and asked the owner llhether that ... in anticipatioo of an,roval to convert into C101doaln1.-. '!he architect, Mr. Muir, answered that new vindowe had been put in to bring them up to QOde, but that nothing had been done to change the building toe the atMed pu1ting spaces. MINUTES ~:n«; CXMtI$I~ May 25, 1983 Page 4 '!he Planning ec-dssia, adopted the following Schlehuber X Reeolutioo: Marcus X X Farrow X aBSOU7l'I~ t«>. 2116, DF}JYI?«; roffi VARIAlCES FOR A Rawlins X PR:lPClm> CXMXlfflffil'I ~I~ AT 4555 CCNE DRIVE. Jose X Friestedt X Alll.IC HEMUH:;s: 2. CT 83-9, ~ -Request for a 138-lot residential aubdivlsloo located awroximately one mile east of El caino Real at the eastern terminus of Sumy Creek Im<! in the R-E 7.all!. Chairt111n Schlehuber announced there was a requeAt for contiooa,ce a, this matter. Bill HOfman, Principal Planner, reported that at a special City Council meeting, May 24, 1983, an off- agenda item was ainsidered regarding the Mandana property and the surrounding properties. '!he Council was oonoerned with the pattern of developnent and wanted the Mandana project oontinued to have staff analyze this portioo of the City and repcct bade to the Planning carmissia, in two weeks, and then to the City Council. carmissioner Friestedt il'¥1Uired whether it was the oonsensus of the Council to send this item back to staff, and staff answered that il was. Mike HOlzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, e~lained further that Council wanted to make sure when the Planning Comnissia, reviewed the proj,...,-:t, they \-.;\;Xlld see what was being proposed by Mandana and whether it fits into the neighborhood. camdssioner Friestedt cxl111111mted that piece of property is the ooly R-E 7.all! property there is, so all the surrounding area would be different. Mike HOlZll'i.ller added the Council was ooncerned with the project type and wanted to make c-er+ain the Comnissia, had the 01Jer-el.l picture. Mr. Dc:."I A9atep, 2956 lo:IBeVelt Ibid, Planning Aepx:eSt!ll\tative fer Mandana Corporatioo, addresssed the cnaisaia,, stating they would agree to a two-week contiooanoe. '!be planning CCllllission voted to oontinue CT 83-9, Schlehuber X ~. two weeks, to June 8, 1983. Marcus X Farrow X Rawlim X Jose X X Frieetedt X 3. CT 83-5/CP-1281 ~ IA 003'a PlQIBkl'IES -Requc.,at for a 20-wiit tmtat ve tract-., and ooncbdnim permit aa pwpes:ty located on the aout-.h side of r..a Ooeta Avenue, weat of La ecruna Place, in the RIH' 7.all!. Pml Klukas, Auistant Planner, ga'll't' ~.:he presentation a, thia ita • contained in the staff report, using t;nn1pUW1Ciee showing the location IIIIIIPI site and zooing of the surrounlim area. MINUTES PUHmr; Clll4ISSI~ Mlly 25, 1983 Page 5 Comnissiooer Joee asked what else the recreational areas oontained other than a Spa and walkways. Staff answered there were baloonies, whictl oount as recreational areas. Chairman Schlehuber~ the public hearing at 8:05 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr.~ Coat, E. F. Cook & Associates, Ltd., 5858 Mt. Alifan Drive, suite 200, San Diego, addressed the Comnission, stating he had ooe question. He referred to the tentative llllip expiration date given in the Resolution, ana staff indicated the expiration date is twenty-four IID'lths fran the approval of the project. Mr. Jonathan D. Greene, 7615 La Coruna Place, addressed the Ccmnission, stating he was planning to build on the lot that would be next to the visitor parking lot. He explained that all the surrounding lots are single family residences and he was ooncerned ab:>ut the traffic flow. He would like sane stipulation to be made to slow the traffic down, especially as they go over the sidewalk-1)erhape speed bunps. Mr. Greene also requested a six-foot block wall along the property line to hide the cars in the parking lot. Chairman Schlehuber agreed that a six-foot block wall would be a good idea, as well as other screening with landscaping. r.amdssiooer Friestedt added the wall should be the length of the visitOI' parking area. 'lhe camdssion J:'eCO':mi:i:ea Hr. Fred D'Altrcp, 7617 La Coruna Place, owner of the adjacent lot with a house now under oonstruction. He stated his hafte would have living quarters upstairs and a sh:-foot wall would not be high enough to help him. He requested the parking lot be DDWld to the Ol!nter of the CD1Plex and l!Wl!l'f fran the prq,oaed area. '1he next speaker was Sue Can,>a, 7623 Neuva Castilla, who expressed oonoema fOI' the safet y of the children who ride bikes in the cul~ sac and pll!l'f on the hillside. She asked whether parking was to be allowed in the cul- de-sac itself, as they llight possibly have overflow parking there. In anawer to her question as to how llllll1Y apaoes there were in the lot, staff said there were eight. She acMed that the intersection there is a dangerous ooe and she felt they were crmlllling a lot of oordlainiiaa into a mlllll space in an area that is faily Ol'iented. MB. CIH)a felt there would be a definite environaental illpact on the area with this project. cauisaimer Joae asked about the location of Ms. Qippa 's piopert:,,, as she said she looked into the pm:tdng lot frta her badtyard. Ms. CIH)a explained that her lot was elevated, allowing her to see into that .... Nra. Gail Greene, Route 3, Box 419, aMr.essed the ocaet•im, irquiring about the looatioo of trash aontainera for ther pcq.oeed project. Staff indicated thill had been diacuued and pointed out an area on a ~ ..twre an enclosed trash bin would sit. MINUTES May 25, 1983 Page 6 Mr. D'Altrop spoke again, stating the access to the property should be changed, and that wci •ld ease the traffic problem. Staff explained that La Costa is a seoondary arterial and frequent oonflict points are avoided as llllch as possible. Since no a,e el::" wished to speak en this matter, the public testina,y was closed at 8:24 p.m. Comnissiaier Rawlins stated he wanted the record to reflect that the Fire Chief should take a close look at the two fire hydrants required. 'Ibey are quite a distance apart, and he felt arother a,e oould possibly be required in the vicinity of the driveway. Staff pointed out that Cooditioo 128 addressed that problem. 'lbe Planning camdssioo ai:,proved the Negatiw Dl!!claration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopted the following Resolutioo: RBSOU11'Itfi ?D. 2122, APPJOl.llN:; J\ 'lwm'IY-mIT ffNI'ATIVE '1RN:'T ~ AND CXHXA'IINI!.11' PERMIT CN PRJPER'l'Y GENERALLY tJXATED CN 'l'ffE !DJ'Jl1 SIDE Oi1 IA ~A AVFNUE WEST OF IA cnue. Pu.cE. '1'10 Additional Conditions: 1. AppliO!lllt to install a aix-foot wall along the length of visitoc puking and turn the oorner for two or three feet at entrance to project. 2. Speed Ix.mp to be installed at entrance to property and detailed landscaping. MiJce Rolzmiller indicated to the people in the audience that the Planning COl'llllissioo action ~me: final unless appealed within ten days. m::l!SS: Olairnan Schlehuber called a recess at 8:28 p.m., and the Ccaliaaion reconvened at 8:35 p.m. with six o:aituimers pre~t Md Conlllissiorier Raltx>tis absent. Olab:•n Schlehuber~ that Item t4 would be trailed at this ti.a and the Ccnnissioo would prooeeJ with the Discussioo ItelllS. ~!at 1'1WE1 S. PCl>-f', CNt DBE CXH:BPl'S -Request foe a PlaMing eca1 NLii oeterilnitlon to allow fer an increase in the allaMbl• dlnalty far a 27-unit apart:Jllent project frta 20 &./ac:n to 29.3 du/acre looated at 1014-1016 Laguna Dl"i• in the R-3 lane. lllka Bolailler, LaM use PlaMing Manager, reported Kaff ..auld like the Plaming Ccanissloo to oontinue thia it., refer lt back to staff, urd explore the poaiblllty of how the property might work at this dlnaity • an affaEdable houalr¥J project. Q\aidlll Sdwlhuber announced !..hat he planned to abstain fraa .-ting on thl1o1 it• as it llllght involve a oonflict of ~•t in the future. Schlehuber X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X Friestedt X X MINUTES May 25, 1983 Page 7 'l'he Assistant City Attorney stated this would be sent bade for study as far as affordable housing and to see if the applicant concurred. 'l'he applicant was in the audience and stated he did concur. 'l'he Planning Camdssion voted to continue PCD-4~<Y\K TREE CCH:EP1'S and refer it bade to staff for fu er study. 'l'he item would be rescheduled when staff and c!R)lioant are prepared for presentation. 6. PCD-45 S'mBILE -Request for a Planning Ccmnission Determination for the addition of six apartment units to an existing eight-unit apartment project at 253/255 Talnarade Avenue in the RI>--M Zone. Mike Howes, Assistant Planner, gave the presentation on this item as contained in the staff report. Camdssioner iTose asked whether there was any thought of converting these units to oondominiune and staff answered they would not convert. Camdssioner Jose asked about the widening of Tamarade and staff answered the applicant had dedicated 40 feet as one of the oonditions for the widening of Tamarade. 'l'he an,lioant, Ben Stabile, addressed the Ccmnission oo behalf of the owner of the project. He stated they had dedicated 42 feet and had cniplied with all oondi tions. Colllnissiater Marcus i~ired whether more laundry facilities were going to be actied. 'l'he ai:plicant stated they intended t o add m:>re facilities and the roan would aC:CUim:xlat e this. '1be Planning Callllission awroved the Negative Declaration issued by the Land use Planning Manager and adopted the following Resolution: ~ 00. 2123, APPIOIT]N; AN IlOFASE IN D~ITY Pai 14 miIT APAR'MIN'l' P!CJl!Cl' Fio. 20 OO'S/M:RE 'ID 25.9 [IJ'S,/M:RB 0. PIOPl!!Rl"r GmERALLY tocATED AT 253/255 '1'MIUWlt AVl!NUE • ~ ITIII: Mike HolDdller gave the staff report on this item. 'ftlie.,. an informtioo item and Tentative~ of Mar y lb\talae C.T. 81-19 WM passed out to the ' ' oc..iui.clwn. '!be property is located on the northwest oomer of Bl c.1no Real and Chestnut Avenue. 'lbe project will be built in nulti~. 'lbe first phase 1a juat around Jania way. 'lbe final lllllf)8 on the rest of the project will be autaitted at a later date. 'ttlis is part of. the single fmtdly developwnt and all lots front Cl\ Jania. Schlehuber X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X Friestedt X X Schlehuber X Marcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Friestedt X I• MINUTES PLNIUN:; al.fl.ISSIOl May 25, 1983 Page 8 Aooess to the develOEJll!!l"lt was discussed, aro Mtlce Rolzmiller adv l.sed that Janis way waa going to tie into the developnent, staff re<X:Cffllended that, and there was objectioo. A gate was proposed to be put across Janis way and that was not acceptable. '11le applicant then redesigned the project and this portioo will be separate fran the rest of the developnent, with single family lots. Mr. Michael Lalpart, 2025 Chestnut, asked permissioo to alMress the cannissioo, stating Chestnut already has 12,000 to 25,000 cars per day oo it, and if that is the street they pt'ql06e to use, he waidered where they were goi.ng to put the cars. Olairman Schlehuber said this does not lead into the rest of the project. Mr. Lalpart asked the date the project was awroved and Olaiman Schlehuber stated staff rould answer specific project d@sign questioos with him taiorrow, as it was previously~ at a public hearing. 'ttlis was merely a rephasing oo an existing tentative tract map. 4. 1.CA-166, CITY OF CARLSBAD -An amenchent to the 7.a\ing Ordina.-.ce revising the P-+1 (Planned Industrial) zene. Bill Hofman, Principal Planner, gave the presentatioo as oontained in the staff report. Oclaiissia1er Jose asked for clarificatioo oo 113, "no legal clinics" as far as foot traffic. Mr. Hofman stated the i&!,'11 was to limit uses that enrourage walk-in type traffic, as they want to minimize that type of traffic. eor.Laaia1er Jose asked whether there was any prospect of. high-rise fer .crken in the industrial area, and if eo, llhat height, etc. Mr. Hofllan said they cb'l't anticipate any high-rise, and if Wtf were pcq,oNd, it wuld have to be approved by both t.he Ooa1 Mi.on and the Oouncil. oa-1wicner JoN asked if staff rould be nore specific with ~idlntial project& and Mr. Hofman said that large inlllatrlal areM -.y be able to design a residential project within it. o,wiMilllWr Pri•tec!t stated that aaae industrial pmject:a bllw office auitee with reeidenoae a, the NOOnd floon. Aa far M a high rise, that wuld have t.,') be c:,naidand wt.\ it hlA>elled, Cbaimar\ Sd\lehuber q,aned the public hearing at 9:00 p.a. ,nil 1--the invitatioo to speak. ctwta:act 8dllehubar noted that Dan Schlehuber was in the ~. but di"' 't wieh to apeak. llnae no cine wiahed to apeaJt on this atter, the public -_ part.ion ... cl.c.ed at 9101 p.a. . , .. MINUTES May 25, 1983 Page 9 '!tie Planning caaission awroved the Negative Declaration issued by the Land use Planning Manager and aoopted the following Resolution: ~~ I«>. 2125, REO:MlffiDIR; APPJlJVAL OF A zcm: CID ~, NBIDI?«; TITLE 21, CHAP'MR 34, OF 'fflE ~ flDUCIPAL <XDE ~IR; 'fflE P--M ( P~ DIXm'RIAL) zcm:. APPRMU.~MIMJmS: '!tie Minutes of the Meeting held May 11, 1983, were ~roved as presented. By prq>er notion, the meeting of May 25, 1983, was adjourned at 9:04 p.m. Respectfully suanitted, MIOIAEL J. fll~LU.-1..m\ Land Use Planning Manager Harriett Bal:i>itt, Minutes Clerk MBETDG3 ARE AI.s'.) TAPID AND KEPI'~ FILE Ulfl'IL APPRJ\/FD. Schlehuber X Marcus X Farrow X X Rawlins X Jose X Friestedt X Schlehuber X Farcus X Farrow X Rawlins X Jose X X Friestedt X