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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-04-11; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting of: Date of Meeting: Tiae of Meeting: Place of Meeting: CALL 'IO CRER: MINUTES ~!!I; a:JIUSSI~ April 11 , 1 984 7:00 p.m. City Council Chant>ers '.ffle Meeting was oalled to oroer 1:7.)t Cllairman Rarbotis at 7:01 p.m. RJLL CALL: Present: Cllairman Raltx>tis, cannissioners Rawlins, SchlP.huber, smith, Marcus, Farrow and Lyttleton. Absent: Nooe. PLARUM; COIUSSI~ PRX:EOORE: Chairman Rarbotis announced the Planning Carmission Procedure was being shown ma transparency and asked the audience to spend a few minutes reading it. Staff Mentlers Pn>sent: Charles Grimn, Principal Planner Bill Hofman, Principal Planner Ex--Officio Mellt>ers Present: Mike Holzmiller, Land use Planning Manager Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney Dave Hauser, Deputy City Engineer Chairman Raltx>tis announced there would be a change in the Agenda Order, as there are requests to oontinue several itenm. N!X Pa3LIC RF.ARDCS: 4. SP-19~ -CAR CXUffRY fity of carlsbad) -Request to aencl existing spec! le plan a, property located in the C-2 zooe between Cannoo Road and PalClllllr Airport Road. 'l'he Planning Ccadssioo oontinued Item 14 to May 9, 198'. S. CUP-243 -BCE BAmR ~ -Request foe appeONl of a Condltlaia! Uee Permit to replace an exi■ting pole ■ign with two .. 11er pole signs in Car Country at 5500 PMeo Del Norte. 'l'he Planning Ccaduion oontinued Itan 15 to May 9, 198'. lalbotis Rawlins Schlehuber Saith Marcus Farrow Lyttleton lalbotia Rllfline Schlehuber Slllith Marcus Parrow Lyttleton X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES P~ CIMIISSI~ April 11 , 1984 Page 2 6. aJP-245 -ME~~AlIDI -Request for approval of a Conditfuial UsePE!t to DDVe an exiting pole sign and add an additicnal pole sign in Car Country at 5544 Paseo Del Norte. 'lbe Planning Camdssioo oontinued Item J6 to May 9, 1984. 7. CT 82-18~) -SNfl!IS PRJPERTIES -Request to amend CT 82-18 toose Avenida Encinas to through, µiblic traffic, and to allow its oonstruction at oollector street standards. 'ffle Planning Callllission oontinued Item 17 indefinitely and the item will be renoticed. C'C.Nl'lNJED PUBLIC HF.ARI1G3: 1. ZCA-169/ZC-293 -EL c.AMDO ~ -An amendment to the mning crdinance to inrorporate scenic oorrioor studies into the scenic preservation 011erlay zone, to plaoe tMs zone a, properties with frontage along El Camino Real, and to adept "El Camino Real Developnent Standards". Bill Rofmlln, Principal Planner, qave the presentation as cmtained in the staff report, using a transparency to show El Camino Real and a wall 1111p dividing the area into five different areas. A wall map showing the properties affected by this zoning and the requirements certain pieces of prq:,erty oould not meet were explained by Mr. fk>fllan. Ocaliaimer Schlehuber irquired about the Del Mar Financial project and the fact that those ooildings would not aet the El Callino Corridor standards. Chaiman Rmtx>tia cpened the µiblic hearing at 7:16 p.m. am iaaued the invitatioo to speak. Mr. Nark Nordquist, 3495 Seacrest Drive, addressed the Ocaliaioo, stating he was basically in favor of the corridor' guidelines. However, he stated this oould l'a.Jrt the aall develq,er wdting with a Elllall acreage and would muae t:hela to telooate the density into another part of the project. Mr. ~iat suggested the stipulatioo of m ecreening walls be n!IIDl.'ed and a maxillun of 20 feet froa the right-of'"1IRIY. With regard to grading, Mr. Noa1quiat felt that m mre than ten feet rut oc fill '°11.d elilllinate the ability to hide the parking underneath the wilding. In -r to em.iuioo queetioo, Mr. Nordquist stated the key -. to allow ..alls cc roadways in the setback area. ~tis ~ Rawlins ~ Schlehuber IX Smith K Marcus IX IX Farrow IX Lyttletoo IX Iorbotis IX Rawlins IX Schlehuber IX ~ Smith IX Marcus IX Lyttletoo IX MINUTES April 11 , 1984 Page 3 Mr. Paul Graham, La Costa Hotel and Spa, addressed the canaiSRion, stating the preservation of the scenic route was necessary and enrouraged the Cannission to approve the guidelines as presented by staff. Mr. Bob Ladwig, Ridt Engineering, addressed the Camdssion, stating he agreed with Mr. Graham and felt it was necessary to adopt the guidelines, oot enly for El Camioo Real, but other streets within the City. Mr. Ladwig asked whether the grading stipulation was en the existing grade and staff answered it was en the ground as shown en the aerial JX}Otograph of the El Cl!llli.no Real area. Mr. Ladwiq stated scme of the ite!IS in the study might disoourage scme good planning, and he suggested the eetbadt be an average of 45 feet rather than a specific 45 feet. He also suggested a 6-foot high berm would be 24 feet wide, and would be a significant pile of dirt, as well as very expensive. 'nlere was Camlission discussion, with the oonsensus of opinion being there should be sane flexibility with the berming requirement. Mr. Joe Levatino, 22121 Malibu Lane, spoke as a small prq,erty owner, stating when you have property shaped to a point as he <.bes, hcM far oo you have to qo oown from that point in crder to use the land. Staff stated the prq>erty oould be designed to use that pointed area as open space. Mr. Levatino stated he had oot been notified of the hearing and didn't Jcoow the study was being nade. Mrs. Iaie Elsner, interested property owner in Carlsbad, addressed Council, stating the 45 feet setbadt oould be a proble111 if that extended the full length of the study area. Olairman Rcatlotis stated there were three different standards---qislope, downslope and level, and were oot all at 45 feet setbadt. Since no one else wished to speak en this item, the public testi.mny was ooncluded at 7: 36 p. m. Chairman Ralbotis asked whether the standards affected the aeoond parcel behind the parcel frooting on El Cai.no Real and staff stated the intent was just to affect those that froot en El Cl!llli.no Real. Chair.an Ralbotis questiooed the cbmslope in area 3 lilliting the height to 15 feet, stating that would mean a lot of rooftq>e as me drove chm El Canino Real. Bill Hofaan stated that en page 5, l.Tider eectioo 5, the ■entence •Areas in excess of 15 feet cbmslope of El Caino Real-etructurea shall oot exceed El C.-ino Real ■tr.et grade• ahould be deleted. ccaaiuialer Farrow stated he was in favor of the ■tardudll, but IOlld like to review them and would like the ■t:ataent m page 3 of the staff report clarified. 'ftlat ■tat.ant U!Y1I •n is intended that these standards be follONed IX\1N8 the City Council finds that EJE"actical difficultiee, ~ hardahipe, or results MINUTES April 11 , 1 984 Page 4 inoonsistent with the intent of the scenic oorridor zone is found to exist oo a epecific developnent prq>osa]..• Camdssioner Farrow stated his main roncern was for enough flexibility in the wording of the standards to allow staff to work easily with that wording. Bill Hofman stated it was staff's intention to work with each individual case and that on page 9, in the ronclusion, staff felt that was rovered. Bill Hofman stated the lots as shown oo the nap are rot the ooly lots that might be affected, but were the ones that were obviously identifiable. Ccmnissioner Farrow stated he wanted to be certain that if a problem arose years fran row when oone of the present Camdssicners or staff would be available, that the peq,le then would be able to rope with the problem with enough flexibility. I \ Callllissioner Farrow stated the greenbelt was ro problem for him, but he was roncerned about the need for a 6-foot berm. Chairman Rad:lotis stated he felt the need to have staff sell him oo the 10-foot grading stipulation. Bill Hofman stated the 6-foot berm requirenent might be excessive and Cannissioner Farrow stated the Ccmnission should review any project where that high a berm might rot be feasible. Upon discussion, the Camdssioners agreed flexibility was the key as far as the height of the betm was roncerned. The grading requirement was discussed, and it was felt that a inedlanism was needed to review this requirement by the Landu~ Planning Manager and the City Engineer, to be more flexible. Bill Hofman reiterated staff's intent to provide screening, especially fran parking areas, and to treaJt ~ the buildings visible fran El Camiro Real. The berm was one llleal\8 of. doing this, and landscaping IOlld be another 11911M. Upon query fran the Ccmdssion, as to why the setbadt for residential in Area 3 was 1111ch higl'ler than for oomnercial, staff stated because it was a rural-type area and a deeper setback was apprcpriate. There we a diBCUSSioo about this being a guideline and could be used for other streets in the City, with the Cc.-duiawrs agreeing IIDt"e flexibility was needed. Chainan Ralbotis med the Camdssion for an cpinioo about using the eet.badt for other uses-such as a road behind the berllt---and the Callllissioners agreed there was a neoeuity for flexibility as far as the uses behind the acreening. The co.aiuioners were asked to discuss how they felt about averaging aetbadts, with the <Xll\Ben8us of cpinion bsing that averaging the aetbacks would rot be a good idea. MINUT'ES April 11, 1984 Page 5 Mike Holzmiller stat ed that rather than have staff put flexibility into ead1 and every section, that instead it should be written so that it is understood that sanecne rould propose 9Cl'llething different from those standards and receive ronsideration. Staff stated the requirements rould state hems er other types of screening--such as fences, walls, etc., and add SCl!le other standards. 'lbe issue of the second parcel behind the frontage parcel would be clarified to state that this "1K.X1ld not c!IR'l y to that second parce 1. 'lbe sentence regarding height oo the oownslope oo page 5 would be deleted. 'lbe item regarding other uses, such as roads, parking, etc. , in the setbadcs, 1oOUld be worded to state buildings--«) and <'""...her things where screened-yes. 'lbe Planning Carmission returned this Item to staff for r~king and rewording and to be returned to Ccmnission fer final presentation a, May 9, 1984. Mike Holzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager, stated Item 12 was rot a Continued Public Hearing, but a oontinuance just a, the mtia, for the zone changes, the tentative and the cxn:b permit. 2. ZC-271/ZC-274/SP-190~CT 83-36/CP-273 -DEL MAR Pnw«::IAL -Request or approval of preannexatia,al zooing of C-2 (General Camiercial), 0 (Office), R-1- 20,000 and OS (~Space): a specific plan; tentative subdivision 1111p and 1'¥ln-residential oondaninium permit on the rortheast side of El Camino Real north and south of the proposed extension of College Boulevard. Charles Gri.nn, Principal Planner, gave a trief report and asked for dlan3es to be l1llllde a, page 14, deleting P-6 and P-8 under Sectioo D. Height: and adding Exhibit M. '!'he Plaming ec.dssioo acq,ted the following Reeolutia\8: Rl!SU1!'I~ t«), 2~ RBCDtQ!NDIM'.i APPHJ\TAL CF A PiiWliixM':fciw. CJWQ 10 0 (OFFICE Nm PWJl'WlCIW.), C-2 (Gl!NBRAL CXMIBJCIAL), R-1-20,000 AND OS (<JPl!N SPACE) Of PIQ>ER'l'Y Gl!NBRALLY IOCATm Of 'DIE BAST SIDE c:, BL CMDI) IIW.., nnH CF (l)[J.EX.;E ~ M:>. 2268, ~m:; APPIOJM. CF A PMNIIIXM'ICJW. DB owa: ro c-2 (Gl!NERAL CDltEICIALl, R-1-20,000 NE Qi (~ SPACE) Of PRlPERIY camw.LY UXWl1ID ~ '1HZ DST SIDE CF BL CAMIM:> REAL, tOmt CF (DJAIJI IIXJUNAII). t«>, 2269, ~m:; APIVJAL CF SP...190, Ft:1t Y C:, CPPICE, RESIDl!NTIAL, Al-I) !XIIDCW, ~ AR> CPm SPACE AREA GffiERALLY UDm> ~ '1HZ DST SIDE Cl' BL C\Mit«) REAL, tOffll AND 8Clffll Cl' O'llaR!: ~. lbrtlotis X Rawlins X Schlehuber X X Smith X Marcus X Farrow X Lyttleton X lblbotis X Rawlins X Schlehuber X Siu.th X Marcus X Parrow X X Lyttletoo X MINUTES April 11, 1984 Page 6 RESOWTI~ 00. 2270, APP~ A 12 IDI' SUBOIVISI~ CN l-JOIBk1'1 <DERALLY LOCATED CN 'lHE ~ SIDE OF EL CAMm:> RF.AL~ OF CDLLB:;E EOJLEVARD. The Planning Ccmnissioo adopted the following Resolutioo of Intentioo: RB&>U11'I~ 00. 169, ~ ITS INlffll'I~ TO a:H3IDER AN N80a!N'I' OF TITLE 21 OF 'lHE CARLSIW> r-lJNICIPAL <IDE. 3. CT 8-'-2/CP-270 -lA cn;'m POINI'E -A request for a 48-unlt tentative tract map and oondominitm1 permit oo prq>erty located oo the rorthwest rorner of Alqa Road am El Fuerte Street. Bill Roffflan, Principal Planner, gave the presentation er, this item as contained in the staff report, using a transparency showing the site and a wall map showing the sl<:4)e graphic. Olairman Roatlotis q>elled the public hearing at 8:26 p.m. am issued the invi tatioo to speak. Mr. Richard Grabhorn, 10990 Montego Drive, San Diego, addressed the Carmissioo, stating the applicants <XlllO.lrred with the additiooal ronditions handed out tonight. Mr. Philip Giacinti, 2855 Cacatua Street, addressed the C<Dllission, referring to his lettP.r to the Ccmnission dated April 4, 1984, expressing concern about the density of this proposed project. Staff, upon query, stated~ letter had rot been answered. Further, staff stated acae of the units there were ooilt prior to the new a:ndcainil.111 <rdinanoe. Mr. Jerry Bladt, 2845 Giacinti, addressed the Ccmnission regarding the density of the ptq>08ed project. He stated there should be anple oosite parking, as parking is already a proble111 in that area. Mr. Grabhorn responsed, stating they would abide ~ all nllN Ind regulations and were far frc111 the max i.num delwity allowed. Nr. Colin Seid, 1010 '1\Jrquoise, San Diego, spake from the adienoe, stating the units were being ooilt as aon&ainhaa, but if scae are rot sold, they will be rent-'. Since no one else wished to speak oo this itf!ffl, the public teetia:Jny •AUS concluded at 8:42 p.m. 'lber:-e .,.. Coaiu:i..~ discuasioo, stating there were no fin1Unga in the Reeolutim to justify the density of the project. Aaaiatant City Attorney Dan Hentschke stated that findinga llhauld be ade to justify SrJ density over the llin1-allolMd Ind t.boee findings are not in the RMoluticln. Be 9U91:1Mted this it.ea be returned to staff for pnparation of. further cl:>c\aents to justify the density. ~tis X Rawlins X Schlehuber X Slni.th X Marcus X Farrow X X Lyttletm X MINUTES April 11, 1984 Page 7 Motioo was mde and SE!<Xlllded to approve the Negative Declaratioo issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopt Resolutioo No. 2265. Motioo, with the approval of the second, wa withdrawn. '!'he Planning Camdssioo sent <bcuments approving Item t3 back to staff for additional <bcumentation, to be returned at the next regular Planning cannissioo meeting at the top of the agenda. ~= Olainnan Raltx>tis declared a recess at 8:54 p.m. and the Caaissioo re-<Xlrlvened at 9:00 p.m. with all Cclllnissialers present. 8. ZC-303 -OAKLEY P~Wl'IOI OF INTml'IOl-168 - Request for ijrova1oaime change fran R-1-15, 000 to C-T for two lots oo the south side of AdanB Street, west of Hoover Street, and a Resolutioo of Intention to approve a zone change fran R-1-15,000 and R-T to C-T on the south side of Adans Street and Harrison Street between I-5 and HOO\ler Street. Charles Grima, Principal Planner, gave the presentation on this item as oontained in the staff report, using a transparency to show the prcperty. Mr. Nick Banche, Oceanside, spoke for the aR>licant, stating they~ with staff recx:mnendation and urge the adoption of this Resolutioo. Chairman Raltx>tis cpened the public hearing at 9:04 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. l!im1nd Dclftinguez, 4378 Mans Street, stated he needed clarifioatioo as he received oo ootificatioo and asked to have the O overlay explained. Staff explained that the zone change !lade the zoning ronform with the general plan. Mrs. l<Xle Elsner, 1986 Fairlee Drive, Encinitas, ale of the property aimers, addressed the Callnissioo in support of the 80ne change. Mrs. Bonnie Sadiasa, 4378 Adam Street, asked whether this wae a .:ming change and was informed this was a za1e change to inple111ent the general plan. Mrs. Blizabeth Caldwell, 4150 Admns Street, spoke in oppoeitioo to the 80ne change. Mr. Bob Johnson, Mam Street, addressed the camdssioo in q:p,aitioo to the zone ~'lge. Mr. Donald Mead and Mrs. Barbara Mead, 4140 Mams Street, signed in q:p,aitioo to Item 18. Since no me else wished to speak oo this item, the public teetiJaty WU ooncluded at 9:21 p.m. laltx>tis Rawlins Sdllehuber Smith Marcus Farrow Lyttletoo : ' MINUTES Apri 1 1 1 , 1 984 Page 8 COMMl"IONE~\l\ ---------------------------- Chairman Rartx>t is announced that he had no ronflict of interest en this item. The Planning Coomission adopted the fol:,iwing Resolutions: RESOI.111'ICN 00. 2273, REXXM4ENDilli APPROVAL CF A :r..rnE Ow«;E PKJIII R-1-15,000 'IO C--T-Q, <XMIBRCIAL 'la.::UST ZCNE FOR 2.02 ACRES CF PmPERTY G'NERALLY LOCATED CN 'lHE SCX1m SIDE CF ADAMS STREET, WEST OF FOJVER STREET. RESOI.111'ICN 00. 168, D~ ITS INlfflI'IOl 'IO <IMXJCT A PlBLIC HFAR~ 'IO o:NSIDER RECOfolm)~ 'IO 'lHE CITY COJOCIL A RECJAC;SIFICATIOl IN 7l:NE FRO! R-1-15,000 AND R- T 'IO C--T-Q CN PIOPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED CN 'lHE SXJ'm SIDE OF ADAMS STREET AND HI\RRI~ STREET BE'IWEEN tOJVER STREET ~'ID 1-5. AnJCXJRtfitEN.r: By pre.per notion, the rreeting of April 11 , 1984, was adjourned at 9:26 p.m. Respectfully subnitted, MICliAEL J. Land Use Planning Manager Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk MEETTin, ARE Ais:) TAPP.D AND KEPI' CN FILE CNI'IL '!HE MINl1IBS ARE APPIOVED. loltx:>tis X Rawlins X Schlehuber X X smith X Harcus X Farro..> X Lyttleton X