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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-06-27; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting ofz Date of. Meeting: Tia! of Meeting: Place of Mef!ting: CALL TO CR>ER: MINUTES ~DC CDl4ISSI~ June 27, 1984 7:00 p.m. City Council Chant>ers The Meeting was Cll!llled to order by Chairnan Ramotis at 7:02 p.m. \)\' . Present: Chairman Ramotis, camdssioners Rawlins, Smith, Marcus, Parrow and McFadden. Cannissioner Schlehuber arrived at 8:32 p.m. Absent: None. PLBDGE CF ALUX;IAM:E was led by Chairman Ramotis. Chairman Rallbotis announced the Planning Camdssion Pr<x:edure 1111118 being ehom a, a transparency and asked the c!Udienoe to spend a few minutes reading it. Staff Med>ers Present: Bill Hofman, Principal Planner Charles Grinlll, Principal Planner Paul ICl.ukas, Assistant Planner Walter Brom, Civil Engineer Ex-officio Menilers Present: Mike Rolzmiller, Land Use Planning Manager Dan Rentschlce, Assistant City Attorney Dave Hauser, Deputy City Engineer Chairman Ralh:>tis introduced Jeanne McFadden, the new Plaming Caldssioner. CClll'DU!D POU.IC HF.MDC: 1. GPA/W :tf P-14f!JIZC-306/Cl' 84-4 -IA <Xm'A DEL &'UR Raqueet to the Use Element of the General Plan am La Coeta M•ter Plan to mange land use designations in the aouthweatem portion of the La Costa Master Plan area. Aleo requeeted are a !one ChaB;Je and Master Tentative Tract Nap. Charles Gria, Principal Planner, called attention to the oonditicin manges listed in the llll!IIDI'ancbn dated JWle 27, 1984, to the Plarming Caaission, and made a part of this it•. Mr. Gri.• read MC>ther oondition to be added as t25(K): •o.iCJl'I featunia including, but oot limited to, additiooal lanae, striping, traffic control facilities and attendant right-of-way width shall be provided to assure levels of service C fa:-the arterial street intersections adjacent to the project •• Mr. Gria stated the l!R)licant had seen the manges and conoirred. In .,...r to ~ry, Na.lter Brown stated that level c NX'Vioe IIIU to allow the expeclitious passage of. traffic at an interNCticin wit.hoot having to lolilit for IB)r'e than ooe U.l#lt cycle. (i) MINUTES June 27, 1984 Pac:,e 2 1!~~ 0~ :r.~ 1! COMMISSIONERS ~ ~°\ \ Chairman Rallbotis stated that Camdssioner McFadden had read the lllinutes and reviewed the llllterials and was qualified to vote oo this item. Charles Gri.mn, Principal Planner, gave the presentation on this item as oontained in the staff report. He stated this was a oontinued public hearing, and at the last hearing, the PlMning Camdssion directed the applicant to meet with the citizens to work out the problem;. The three roncerns of. the citizens were: the major discrepancy between the l"llri>er of units permitted in the 11111Ster plan and the runt>er of units theoretically possible under the general plan: the developnent of the canyon area ( arother transparency was used showing the exhibit for the llllSter plan amendment) 1 the third was caipatibility. Other ronoerns were traffic and the locatioo of. the open space rorridors. Based oo the public input, the applicant has proposed to reduce the density ~ reducing the density in several of the neighborhoods. Mr. Grinm indicated the areas where the density had been reduced and further stated the canyon oo Calina way was oow prq,osed as open space. Aoother transparency was shown with the 23 sub-areas iooicated, with the q,en space iooicated, and Mr. Grinm stated everything else remained the same as the last report. Chairman Raltx>tis oontinued the public hearing at 7:24 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Jiln Goff, representing Daon Corporation, addressed the Calll\issioo, stating the changes as llll!lde ~ staff were acceptable to the applicant. Mr. Goff gave the background for the project and stated it was within the spirit Sld plan of. the adopted plan and the applicant was not llllllcing a change in the plan, but a refinenent of. the plan. Mr. Goff stated minor adjustments to the boundaries of the areas had been mete Sld these were pointed out~ staff oo a transparency, and he stated the prq,oeed master plan changes would protect the riparian areas and alao establish street al ignnents in advance. Mr. Goff stated the applicant had aet with the citizens as directed~ the Planning Caadssion, Sld oo their irp1t, the density had been changed adjacent in certain aniu. Be stated they 111ere oot talking abut increasing the denaity, that 3,458 dwelling units were already allowed, and if they didn't put the eight acres of ocaaercW into residential use along El Cmnioo Real and adopt this plan, there would be 3,456 units, or t:wo less unite allowed. Mr. Goff stated the reructioo of. «-rcial would drq> the traffic oounts about 14,000 tripe. He stated the applicant had respouded to the ooncerna about lot sizes. The 8.4 acres oo Calina way would oow be deeiqnated aa cpen space, Sld as the different albdivisiona cxae in, the spacing would be changed frca the general Wa'f it is shown oo the mater tentative ap. MINUTES June 27, 1984 Page 3 Mr. Goff stated that this request divides the property into areas and establishes major road alic:rnnents, but does rot pendt lff/ kind of develqnmt. Individual site plans "10Uld be neoessay for each of the individual neighborhoods. The grading would be for the streets involved and Mr/ grading done "10Uld be less than that done for the existing halles. Mr. Goff reiterated they were rot asking for substantive change in the plan and rot requesting an increase in density, but providing additional oontrols rot in the current plan, with cpen space that exceeds that required under the PC 2Xlne for fflllSter plans. In answer to query, Mr. Goff stated the time table for starting this project wuld be gradual. He stated ooe subdivision had already been processed, but the whole area IO.lld take ten to fifteen years. As to traffic circulation, Mr. Goff stated the streets are wilt by develq,ers and if Rancho Santa Fe is rot pleasing row, oothing will happen to change that until there is develqwient adjacent to it. He added that the future roads are designed to meet the traffic requirements. Mr. John Gindorff, 2022 Cult>re Court, addressed the ea.ission oo behalf of the Monarch Hareowners Association, as the President a.'ld offical spokeepersal. He stated the new plan 10Jld cause pt'Oblems-traffic, overcroi«Hng of schools, 1088 of parks and recreation areas, loes of ballfields, affecting adults and children, and endanger the environments. He also stated there was rot adequate police protection. Mr. Gindorff requested the Ccmdssion to address the issues involved and rot chaB}e the density. Mr. lhldes Hileman, 7738 Madrilena Way, spoke in oppoeition to this project, stating the City Council was still thinking as a lalll town with a need tor develq>era-but this is oo longer true. Mr. Hileman ueed a Nall 1111p to show the cpen space indicated oo the _,.ter tentative plan, which was half of the riparian area. Mr. Stephen ltisaick, 7912 I.as Nueces Place, President of Ponderoea BOllllOWnera Aseociatioo, spoke in cg,osition to t11is p:oject, stating a an's hale is his castle, and t tw peq>le in that area are oonoemed about the aervioee. There are proble.i with the sewer district ant! the echool district at the present time, and oonoern v• upreeaed about police and fire protection. Mr. IUuick apreaaed the c.pinion that perhaps this plan had not had the proper thought given to it. Catherine Regan, 7728 Palacio Drive, spoke in cg,osition to the p:oject, stating her grievance with massive grorth in general, and particularly in south Carlsbad. She and that cpen apace be kept and traffic problea be aolwd in aocordanoe with the general plan, lllhidl reflects the deeires of the citbens. She stated that LIi OOeta Aveooe mat be widened befoce arr:t IIIOCe tlwelqaltnt tllk• place in aouth Carlsbad. She added she knew that <Xeat:ed probl-, due t.o the topography of the land a the l'Ullber of people involwid, but eaae ~ Nd .-how it lll■t be widened. MINUTES ~ CDIHSSI~ June 27, 1984 Page 4 Mr . Art T atoeky, 7711 calina way, addressed the C<anission in Cf4X)8itioo to this project, reading fran the staff repcrt, page 4, second paragraph, regarding the change fdrca single family to other housinq types. He also read fran an article stating that detached housing prices rose and attached housing prices decreased rue to the large rurt>esr of oondcninium devel~nts in rorth county in the last six ftDllths. He felt single family housing was the oorrect designatioo and was ooncerned about the grading for soil stability and denuding the canyon. Mr. Tatoeky ooncluded, stating if the hospital is planned, then ask for a :rone change oow and designate this partirular neighborhood. Miss Lee Rautenlcranz, 2922 Gaviota Circle, ~ressed the cannission in qipoeition to the project. Chairman Ralbotis ackoowledged receipt of her letter, which is part of the record. Miss Rautenkranz SU111Mrized the main points in her letter, giving her reasons for objecting to the project. Mr. Merris Rabin, 7717 Morada Street, spoke in qipoeitioo to the project, stating when he oought his !'one he had to live within the parameters of restrictions and felt that should l!IR)ly to all pereoos, including developers. He felt this project was rot well thought out as far as providing services, and stated the schools, police and fire protection services should be provided in advance of the needs. Mr. Willard Levesque, 7722 Anillo, ~ired whether any action taken tonight rould be vetoed by the City Council, and asked the ec.nission to ride out and look at the area- ~irularly the greenbelt area-and asked what "WOUld happen to that if devel~nt encircled that. Mr. Steve Little, 3019 Catrata Circle, spoke in oppoeition to the project, stating he lives by SW 7 area. Mr. Little asked about the tentative llllp and what the density fur SW 7 lilOUld be. Olairman Radx>tis answered it lilOUld be O -4 units per acre. Mr. Little felt the auter plan shoold remain as it is and Daoo should live with the density as it was when they J:Urchased the land. Mrs. SUsan Paraalee, 2110 V\Jel ta Court, mother of three chil~n, spoke in qipoeition to the project, stating she would like to know \!here the parks are. Staff answered that three Jt'Ml'8 ago the Parks, Recreation element 111118 changed to el iainate neighborhood parks and have oaaunity parka instead. <ft park is proposed at the intenectioo oL Rancho Santa Fe and La Costa, and with each aibdiviaion, there will be mre acres dedicated for open apace. Rancho Palderosa is rot city-owned, but •intained by the hcaowners, and that type of dwe]qaent is envisioned by the indivici.Jal developers. She atated lhe had waited six years fur parks--and it N0Uld probably be another four befa:e ooe 111118 available. She ooncluded, stating there were four freeways boxing in the children, md the need for parks was 1-ediate. Mr. lo}er St.olbe19, 3221 Marca Place, indicated the areas when the lot aiae had been increued, and il'¥]Uired about the dlpth oL that oondition-uie lot, tvo, ex how many? Re Mked tor that dllpth to be defined. He also il'¥]Uired about the -,torcycle traffic. MINUTES ~ CDIHSSICN June 27, 1984 Page 5 Mr. John Strayer, 2001 Cima Court, addressed the Ocaaission in qiposition to this project, stating he was inYOlved in adult sports, and his children in youth sports, and there are rot enough facilities at the present time for youth, a!ults and senior citizens. He stated there was rothing in the plan to alleviate these problelllB. Mr. Strayer <Dlal!nted the l"l.fflt>er of h:xneowners here taught indicated involvement in the camuni ty, and he wanted recreational facilities for everyone. Mr. John Dilg, 2808 Segovia, spolce fOt' hillself and seven other hcllleolfners in the area, in CW)Sition to the project. Re asked why area t 10 had rot been oownqraded am was in CW)Sition to this. Mr. Goff spolce in response to the issues and questions, stating as a landowner, sane were beyond his ability to answer. As far as services being supplied first, Mr. Goff stated that just ooes rot happen. The City am't fund these services until they get fees for develOJ:llent, which cunes with the approval of each individual devel0pllellt. Mr. Goff stated the hospital oould be in the rorthwest portion. A ccmunit~ide prqx,eal had been Rade rather than wait for the GPA. As far as parks, Mr. Goff stated the applicant had respouded to what the City Council had told them and every tune a subdivision would go in, added acreage would be dediceted. The individual subdivisions would be responsible for that dedication. The City amnot afford Sllllll.l neighborhood parks and the h:xneowners would have difficulty IBintaining them. As to the notOt"cycles, Mr. Goff stated no a1e had permission to run on Daon's prq>erty. 1'hen Daon is informed they are there, the police are called. He suggested the direct WII'/ to handle the •tter IIOU.ld be for the peq,le to call the police. Mr. Goff stated SW 10 was not l!Ddified, due to the fact that a:iginally it had extended W1eStward across sw 9 am hid a <ma:)11 lx>uMary with SW 15. This area was rut in half to a,.;.,-date the ability to stay within the denaity already authodzed. Mr. Gaff stated the applicant was also very 111Jch in favor of La Coeta Aveooe being aproved. However, they were aware the City did not have jurisdiction at this tiJne. Mr. Goff reiterated the applicant is requesting mioor aoclificatima to the aster plan and urged approval. Aaaiatant City Attcimey Dan Hentschke stated that if the halpital ia to be in the n:rtm.est area, was that part of the IIJPlication being presented tonight? Mr. Goff stated it -not. Be 11M •rely narrowing the site chm. Mr. Bentachke etated the Plaming Ocaaission would not be able to take action to illplaent that tonight. He stated the pEqJONl to allow ron-reeidential U8e8 would affect only the area indicated on the-rand was rot oonamity wida. Q\airaan Ralbotie cloeed the public testimny portion at 9rll p.a. MINUTES P~ CDIIISSICfi June 27, 1984 Page 6 ~: Chairman Ralbotis declared a recess at 8: 33 p. m. and the Plannir¥J Camussion re-o:>nvened at 8:47 p.m., with six Callllissioners present. Chainaan Rmbotis asked staff to clarify the hospital ia11ue and staff stated they had inserted this in the sou1':hwest at the request of the applicant, but it was int.ended to af4)ly to the ..tlole llllBter plan. The Assistant City Attorney now states that oann:>t be oone. New it am be said for sure it will oot be in the sou~t portion. Ocanissiooer Farrow CD1plimented Daon Corporation for the excellent plan. He stated he was pleased to see all the residents present to state their ooncerns with the application. ca.issi~r Farrow stated his main concern was the product mix and the increase in the nt.mt>er of uni ts. He IO.lld like to see nore detached housir¥J and larger lots and IO.lld like to see the project cane beck addressing these ooncerns. ca.nissioner Smith a:maented on the lack of recreational facilities for yaJr¥J children. Staff reiterated Stageooach Parle would be built and that 200 square feet per unit IO.lld be dedicated in each subdvisicn, with the City havin;J the right to increase that footage. M ike Holzmi Her, Land Use P lannir¥J Manager, stated if an area is a s·candard subdivisioo and oot a planned unit develqaen'c, there is oo requirement for recreational areas. ~ir¥Jle family lots cb oot require CXlllllD"I recreGl:ional areas-only planned unit developnents. The «-ent was mde that Rancho Santa Fe is now a prime arterial, and the park would be across that prime arterial. Cc•duiooer MaraJS ™1rred with Camrl.ssioner Farrow ard stated Daon had oone a fine job. However, she felt the l'Ulf:>er c1 dissatisfied people of here rould oot be ignored. CU-1uiooer Mc:Fadcten agreed this was a qood plan, but felt it needed refinmaent. She had oonoerns about the procllct type am the (i\asing of the large roads. That needed to be addressed, particularly the pd111e arterials, befon lllf)roval was given. Cnwiaaioner N~ stated llhe .ould like to aee a neighborhood unnm ,.. district for the •intenanoe of the cpen spam onnyon, • there might be a drainage probl• there. Cnwiuioner Rawlins stated he had problelllB with t.oth plane n felt the l'Ulf:>er of uni ta had oot been changed that aidl-1ust re-arranged. He felt there would be a school llhortage n concluded that park areas wre needed. Ot.aiman Atlltlotis stated the deepw of the buf fer BOne IINlhd to be dafined, with a~ change .t1ere it ._ mt dafinite. Be felt the grading ahould be looked at m an indiviclaal buis, am • far • traffic a, La 00.ta, IUJIJNl'Ad • tree right turn onto Bl Caino. MINUTES P~ ~ISSI~ June 27, 1984 Page 7 ca..issioner SJl\ith stated his appeciation for the attitude of the l!A)licant and the feelings of the 00111111nity and felt the ooncerns about services were legitilnate. Motion WIM llede to approve the Negative Declaration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager and adopt Resolutions 2276, 2277, 2278 and 2313, including the conditions as &Med by staff. Motion failed. Plaming Ccnlission directed staff to prepare d:>cuments denying the l!A)lioation. M i.ke Holzmiller stated this action was final unless appealed to the City Cbuncil. Cclllllissioner Schlehuber joined the C.cmnission at this point in the meeting. 2. GPA/UJ 84-1/lC-301/SP-1~2/Cl' 84-5/SDP 84-1 -BUENA VISI.'A PARll: PLAZA -Request for l!A)roval of ll general plan aaidiiient dlanging the land use designation frail O/1'S/(6 to !111/(6: a zone change frcrn R-~/C-'l'-Q aoo o-s to RD-M- 0 and O-S: a specific plan1 a tentative subdivision 118P to <Xeate nine lots1 and a site developrent plan for the first 329 apartment lD'lits generally located oo the 900th side af Highway 78, l!A)roximately .5 miles east of El Cai.no Real. Charles Gri.BI, Principal Planner, stated the l!A)licant h_, requested a oontinuance of this item for two weeks, and then IOlld ask O::luncil to postpone this for two week&. Nr. Joe Sandy, representing an>licant, stated there was a probl• m noticing, and the mly Wl!l'/ to bring the project. fa:ward was to ask for a oontinuanoe. The Aaaiaunt City Attorney stated the an>lication had b.--en changed by the an>licant after it had been noticed. N 1Jte Holailler, Land Uae Planning Manager, stata:J staff n,u _l\ded rot oontinuing this ite111 and holding 14> the other l!llPlioantione. If the IIR)lioant "'81\ts to wait until a later ti•, they oould ask for a new plblic hearing. He ■tated there lllight be another GPA hearing in Auguat. If thie •tter were oontinued, there "°'-lld not be U.. to prepare a new staff report before it wae cl.te to 90 to Council. Nr. 8Ml!y stated the applicant was willing to risk waiting 1.r1til the rext GPA hearing. lolt:>otis X Rawlins X snlith X Marcus X X Farrow X McFadden X Radx>tis X Rawlins X smith X Marcus X Farrow X X McFadden X (y MINUTES P~<IHIISSI~ June 27, 1984 Page 8 Planning C'.aadssion denied the request for a continuance on this item. Charles Gril'IIII, Principal Planner, gave the presentation on this ite111, referring to the letter received June 19, 1984, to the Planning Department fran Mr. Joe San1y, and stating staff had mt had tiJne to address the applicant's requested change in the letter. Mr. Gri.nn stated he "°1ld give his report oo the or:iginal request, using transparencies showing the existing and prq>aeed zone change and the project site. He stated staff had a ronoem about the riparian area and felt this site was mt apprqniate for residential use. The mise fran Highway 78 and fran South Coast Asphalt was given as the primary reason for staff's recomnendation for denial. Aleo, the City Cnmcil had changed the General Plan oo this site just 1 1/2 years a;JO. Mr. Grinm stated the late change wuld have to be mtked for the Planning ec..dssion and oould mt be acted upon tonight. Chairan Raltx>tis cpened the public hearing at 9:33 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Joe Sandy, representing the applicant, addressed the Calaissioo, referring to the letter previously nentioned by staff. Mr. Sandy referred to a chart showing the site am surrounding area and five charts displayed on the board showing the general plan for the property. Mr. Sandy stated the l!R)licant thought they cx,uld calculate the Roll on all the property, but found they oould mt ct> this. Be stated that alternative two in the EIR ws basically the project reo:mnended. The three issues in the staff report were mise, biology and traffic. Mr. Sandy stated the 65 CNEL fran Highway 78 is in the middle of the q,en spaoe and the residential IIO.lld mt be upacted by Highway 78. The Marron Road ooiee IIO.lld be lllitigated as usual with apptq,t late lan&loaping, buffer, berm and setbacks. As to the biological aspect, the alternative lilOUld (reServe the riparian habitat, acmrding to Mr. Sandy. The traffic generated by this project 1«JUld be less than that in the erlatiug general plan. If the area remained u ~rcial or: office, the traffic IIO.lld cp through Tangl81100d and Kelly. Mr. 8Mc!y stated the l!R)lioant needed a denial to 11DVe fonard to Council and mange the request. The Auiatant City Attomey stated if the Calllission r,,.1 I dad to the Council that the pr-q,ety be 1'1~, that cculd oot be (banged between mw and Council. The Council cculd direct the Plaming Coaiasioo to a.:ird.lct ~t hearings. If the project is denied, the OOUncll cculd direct the ca.iaaion to hold further hearinl}II. \ ltllltx>tis Rawlins Schlehuber Smith Marcus Farrow McFadden MINUTES June 27, 1984 Page 9 In answer to query, ~Ir. Sandy stated the EIR sh~ a buffer betlileen South Coast Asphalt and this project. Mr. Jerry Elder, 7280 Encelia Drive, San Diego, owner of the adjacent property, spoke about his concerns for protecting his property rights. He had previously expressed a:,ncerns about the roof material, air conditioner ruct.s, elevator shafts, etc., an the rooftops, and the effect an the surrounding ronm.mity. Franchesca Fereno, 2320 Via Canente (spelled by sound only, as ro written slip was received), stated there was a need for m:-re residences rather than m::>re rosinesses. Mr. Jerry Hart, 1926 Sunset Drive, spoke in q:,position to this request, stating the traffic i.npact would cause serious problems. Mr. Sandy responded, stating the applicant would work with Mr. Elder with regard to roof rraterials, etc. The public testim:Jny was concluded at 9:54 p.m. Planning Carmission adopted the following Resolutions: RESOWI'IOI 00. 2308, D~m:; AN "4EN!l4ENI' TO 'fflE LAND IBE ELEMENI' OF 'fflE GENERAL PLAN fROol O/l'S/00 TO R'l/00 OI APPR:lXIM/a'ELY 96. 8 ACRES OF PR)PERI'Y GENERALLY I..OCM'ED OI THE SXJm SIDE OF HIGHWM' 78 , APPOOXIM/a'ELY • 5 MILES FASl' OF EL CAMIOO ~- RESOWI'IOI 00. 2309, D~IN:; A ZOIE QiAN.'.;E m:Jol R-P-Q/C- T--Q7o-=S TO R>-M--Q/00 Cf.I APPIOXIM/a'ELY 96.8 ACRES OI PRlPERI'Y <»IBRALLY I..OCM'ED OI 'fflE &XJl'H SIDE OF HIGHWAY 78 APPIOXIM/a'ELY • 5 MILES FASl' OF EL CN1IOO RFAL. RESOUJI'IOI 00. 2310, D~IN:; SPEX:IFIC P~ 192, FDR A RF.SIDENTIAL SPEX:IFIC P" 1\N FDR 96.8 ACRES c»IBRALLY u:c,a,ED OI 'fflE &XJl'H SIDE OF RIGIWAY 78, APPOOXIM/a'ELY .5 MILES FASl' OF EL CAMIOO RFAL. RESOWl' IOI 00. 2 311 , D~IN:; A TENr M' IVE SJBO IVIS IOI MAP ~ APPIOXIMATELY 96. 8 .t.CRES OF POOPERI'Y c»IBRALLY u:c,a,EO OI 'fflE SXJm SIDE OF HIGMAY 78, APPIOXIMM'ELY .5 MILES FASl' OF EL CAMIOO REAL. RSOUJrIOI 00. 2312, D~n«; A SITE IEVEI.01"'ENr PLAN 00. 84--1 , FOR 329 M>.t.RIJIENI' lNITS OI PIOPERI'Y GENERALLY 1.£0'1'1!1) OI 'fflE SXJm SIDE CF HIGffl,p.Y 78, APPR:lXIM/a'ELY • S M ~ EA8l' OF EL CAM IOO RFAL. 3. ~ 84-4/lC-305 -I03ERI'~ -Request for appnMl of a general plan wi&nt fran i... and RIM to C and a ~xational 7.one change to C-2--0 on the southeast oorner of. Tlll!lllractr: .t.venue and El Camiro Real. Bill Hofman, Principal Planner, gave the presentation en this item as a:,ntained in the staff report, using a tr~ to show the project site (Exhibit X) and another transparency of Exhibit z showing the separation fran the aurrounding residential, with the hillside buffer shown. He stated a traffic study was oone and wall ape .-ere ll8ed to show the location of neighborhood 00a1ercial sites. The Country Store is near this area, but 1.e not of. sufficient size to meet the future ca111mrcial needs of the surrounding vicinity. Root:otis X Rawlins X Schlehuber X smith X Marcus X FarreN X X McFirl3en X MINUTES PI.MIHM. (lJlillS.SIOI June 27, 1984 Page 10 Staff stated oo nnre oon,ercial "°-!ld be reamnended on El Camiro after this project, as they felt the spacing of ronmercial areas along El Camiro Real was auite adequate. Also, such spacing would discourage future strip a:mnercial einanating fran existing conrnercial developnents. Mr. Hofman stated staff is reconrnending the C-1 zone vith the O overlay, since the C-2 zone l«>Uld allow sane uses rot !R)ropriate for this site. There 111218 a discussion mrong the Conmissioners and staff, with a determination that a signal is presently planned for Kelly and El Camiro Real. Chaionan Rarbotis opened the public hearing at 10:10 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Mr. Jim Hides, 6994 El Camiro Real, representing the applicant, addressed the Conmission, stating there was a traffic circulatioo p-:oblem and a report was cbne satisfying thif' <DOCern. He stated the prq,erty is flat and would rot require a large annmt of grading. Also, Tamarack is b.lilt in this area. Mr. Hides stated the timing was good for this project and he used a wall nap to show the neighborhood rorrmercial locations, s-..ating the demand aspect was good for this project. In answer to query fran the Conmission, Mr. Hides stated they agreed with the C-1 and had volunteered the Q over lay. ~r. Richard Hulbert, 4722 Amer,,,ood Court, Carlsbad Palisades RaReOWners Association, spoke, representing 115 units, wx, would overlook this area. Mr. Hulbert si.mmari zed his letter dated June 22, 1984, to the Land Use Planning Office. Mr. Harold Moyer, 4724 Amer,,,ood Court, irliressed the Ccaaissioo in qiposition to this project, stating the noise and traffic will be p,:oblE!11'6. Mr. Richard Shepard, 4667 Coralwood Circle, addressed the ca.ission in qiposit ioo to this project, stating ~rcial was rot appropriate for that oorner. Mr . Hicks stated the oomnercial developnent will rot i n...--reaae the traffic load, aB the streets are designed to handle that traffic. He stated there were plans to pJt an elementary school oo the east side of El Camino Real, and through the O ovierlay, all specific plans will be reviewed by the Planning Ccmdssioo. Since rx> one else wished to speak oo this item, the public testiloony was <DnCluded at 10:25 p.m. Mr. Hofman stated staff had looked at the smw:; report oo traffic, and T .. rade is well within the range of a secondary arterial, and t r aff ic wo.ild not be increased to any signi ficant degree oo El Camino Real. In answer to query, staff s t ated the setback fran El c.ino would be 40 to 45 feet, per the El Camino Real Corridor Study. MINUTES PINfi:IK; OJIC ISSIOI June 27, 1984 Pac,;•.? 11 Planning Carmission approved the Negative Declaration issued by the Land Use Planning Manager 100 crl:lpted the following Resolutions: RE90LI.Jl'IOI 00. 2314, REQ'.H4EN)n«; APPRJ\TAL CF AN NUXMfffl' ro 'fflE I.AND l.5E ELEMEffl' CF 'mE GNERAL PL.\N PlOI 94 HI> RlM ro C FDR APPR:lXIMATELY 19 ACRES CF PFOPERl'Y <DERAIJ..Y I..OCm'ID OI 'fflE &XJ!'RFA'n' CDRNER CF EL CNil IOO REAL ~ TJIMARACK AVFNUE. RE90LlJl' IOI 00. 2 3 1 5, REO'.H4 ml) n«; APPROVAL CF A P~IOW:. ZOIE ow«:IB ro C-1 ~ FOR APPR:>XIMATELY 19 ACRES CF PIOPERl'Y GENERAU.Y [OCJ(l'ID CN 'mE &XJ!'RFA91' COffiER CF EL CMIOO REAL AND TlfolARACK AVENUE. 4. GPlyUJ 83-14/lC-278 -CARLffiW) I.AND INVEffi'ORS - General Plan Amerdllent and zaling to change 56 acres of RL (0-1.5 du/ac) designated property to 36 acres of RIM (0-4 du/ac) and 20 acres of O (Office). Charles Gdfflll, Principal Planner, gave the presentation on this item using a transparency to show the project site. The Assistant City Attorney s tated that this had been sent back by City Council and his recorrmendation would be that the new Planning Coomissioner abs tain oo this item. Ccnnissioner McFadden stated she would abstain, but would remain for the discussion of the item. Mr. Gri.n111 stated this was appealed to the City Council an:'! returned with a reannendation the Planning cannission oonsider office zone. Staff recnrmen:'led denial <ile to traffic inpacts and land use caipatibili ty. He in:'licated, however, that the applicant would present an altetnative tonight. Mr. Nick Banche, 702 Fourth Street, representing the applicant, addressed the Cannission, stating the application for GPA and preannexation was denied and appealed to Council. The awlicant felt if the office could be used in the oorth tx:> avoid the influence of the airport, the entire rest of the area could be O -4 instead of 1-1/2. Mr. Banche stated staff did not like that and wanted nothing oo that designated office space. He offered a oonpranise of imking that area 2'lOOed q,en space, stating that was the first time an awlicant had accepted q>er1 space oo developable land. In return for the designation of q>en space, the density of O -4 was requested for the entire site oo the General Plan. Mr. Banche amnented this was oot an act.ion item; they just want tx:> tring this la.'ld into the City of Carlsbad. He stated the exte.nsion of Laurel Tree Lane and College was an illport.ant lir ' fran the st.arq:>oint of t-i-.,e City. Mr. Jerry Hart, Pa.lanar Airport Pilots Association, 6929 !l Cairo, addressed the Conmission in cpposition tx:> this project, using a wall chart to show the traffic patterns for the airpcrt. He also had a photograph showing the property in relationship tx:> tl-ie eoo of the n.ll'MIIY, and stated this was under the iiugnes helloopter teet flight arcu. 1! ~ o.,.\~~~ -"'-~. 0 COMMISSIONERS q,_ ~\~ ~ lbdx>tis P< Rawlins X P< Schlehuber P< Smith P< Marcus X Farrow P< McFadden X MINUTES 1? ~ June 27, 1984 Page 12 0.A :Y~ i! -.;.: ;.L ~ 0 COMMISSIONERS ~ ~ ~ ~\ Mr. Hart stated the q:iinion that oo residential was appropriate oo this property due to the ooise, safety and liability. He ask:ed whether the study for proper land use had been l1Bde as requested by council, and Mike Holzmiller answered it was part of the Agenda Bill. Ccmnissioner FatTCM stated he felt the flight patterns should be shown at al 1 times for orojects in that area, and ~ that the safety and roise is the liability. The Assistant City Attorney stated that is part of project review oow. The Airport Land Use Cannission nust review and IIBke a reroamendation oo every project. Mike Holzmiller stated this project had been suanitted to that Airport Land Use Cannission for reronmendation. Mr. Bandle agreed to zone as cpen space any area significant to the airport. Since oo one else wished to speak oo this item, the public testi.n'Ony was a:included at 10:49 p.m. Charles Grinm, Principal Planner , gave the staff response to the applicant's prcposal. He used a transparency to indicate the area to be designated as cpen space. He stated with the O -4 du/ac density clustered in the lower por tion of the site, <Nay fran the airport, staff could support the new prorx:isal, but still felt the existing land use was nnst appropriate. Walter Brown, Civil Engineer, stated College would be west of the existing Laurel Tree Lane at Palanar Airport Road, but farther south the alignment would ooincide. The Assistant City Attorney roted that with the change and cxmpranise, oone of the maps or exhibits would apply. Planning Camdssion granted a GPA for RIM designation over the entire site and directed staff to prepare zone code mnenchent OOlll)ranise and cpen space designation appropriate for the rest of the site. APPRJVAL CF M IlOI'ES: The Minutes of the June 13, 1984, me.ating were approved as presented. Rr:l'rbotis Rawlins Sdllehuber Smith MarC\.IS Farrow McFadden lo'rbotis Rawlins Schlehuber Smith Marcus Farrow McFadden @ X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES June 27, 1984 Page 13 ADJalRMENI': By proper notion, the neeting of June 27, 1984, was adjourned at 11:08 p.m. Respectfully sul:ni t ted, MICEAEL J . I Land Use Planning Manager Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk COMMISSIONERS MEEI'IlG5 ARE ALOO TAPED AND KEPI' Ol FILE (Nl'IL 'ffiE MIMJI'ES APPRJVID. er J<-3 -/f'cff {!~J~.s : ~ ~ -6:, 7 ~ c:X.._ ~ 7 c~c7~ ✓J,~ ~ -1-~,_7 ~Cl~ ~.~rL~~ ~ ~ ~7 ~, 4--;,Jld£Z ~ ~ 7 ,4_ ~ s ~ ~ ~ r~ . W.c ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ r~,_/1 ~ ~ ~ {. . (J) C .-/-vuL a,..,d );;~~ ~ ~ ..3' I~ cf> ~ b.,--, ~ ~ G~ G.. .?-:Loe~ _,A ..... ··~~ June 18, 1984 Catherine Nicholas City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 RE: GPA 84-1 • DEVELOPMENT CoNSUL TANTS CONSORTIUM Pursuant to our discussions reguarding the appropriate Land Use designation for the Buena Vista GPA, we agree with your comments and request a modification of our original application. The original application requested RM (4-10 du/ac) and OS with the density calculated on the entire 96+ acres. The staff has indicated that this is not acceptable. This modification, therefore, will accomo- date our proposed density and remain consistant with the multi-family alternative project covered by the Environmental Impact Report. The amended proposal would designate approximately SO acres as RMH (10-20 du/ac) and preserve the riparian habitat in an Open Space designation as outlined in the EIR. We under•tand that further modifications to the proposed Specific Plan will be required if the General Plan Amendment as requested is approved. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. If you have any questions, please call at your earliest convenience. 2966 Roosevelt No. 4 • P. 0. Bo• 214 3 • Cartsbad. CA 92008 • (61 9) 434-3135 CAliLSBA D PALISADES H01ECMNERS ASSN. 1A ND ~E P 1.A NN1 NG OFTI CE CITY CF CA RLSBA n 1200 E~ AVE. CA RIBBAD, CA. 92008 Gentlemen1 June 22, 1984 ~ i.?o "c, ,jl,. S'... ~ '\.> . ,~~ ~ tl ··.O ~ i~· :;lf\tl ~ _,,,,_, ()f c:c" '· ~ .. ·. a" We represent the Carlsl:s.d Palisades Homeowners Assn.· Ottit,1un1ta)/ and would like to voice our OBJECTIONS to the proposed zoning cha~ on "Robertson land" at the southeast corner of Tamarack and El Camino Real, Change to Commercial Zoning is OPPffiED for the following reasons1 (1) Our homes are above and directly overlooking whatever is planned for ttds area. The NOISE, TRAFFIC, LIGHTS, ITC . which always accompany commercial locations would decrease the value and desirability of our entire area. (2) "Need for additional Commercial Location" --This area is 1.4 miles south of the new San Diego Bank & Trust Bldg. and its adjoining vacant c0111- 111ercial land and the El Camino Plaza Shopping area. There are many vacant retail locations in the Plaza area, and many that appear in dire need of additional customers. The proposed re-zoning would only further dilute the preser.~ business which would normally go to this professionally planned business center. Also, there is a commercial loostion only one block south of the Pobertson Property. Already available here are a grocery store, res- ta\ll'1lo~, travel agency, beauty shop, nursery and green house, a.nd liquor store. It iF a traffic hazard due to its entrance and ex.1 t on El Camino Real, but it does eerve the needs of the area . (3) Traffic -Your proposal addressed some of the traffic problems list- tng the proposed extension of Kelly Street and the installation of a traffic signal at the corner of Kelly and El Camino Real. Children from this whole area attend Kelly Elementary School. Presently, there is a crossing guard on duty every morning and afternoon to assist children across El Camino Real at this busy intersection. It i s an extremely dangerous situation now, and would be doubly so with Commercial traffic and confusion added! Please accept this letter in lieu of a signed petition, as your not1f1oation letters did not give us time to prepare and circulate same. We trust our OBJECTI ON3 to this Eoning change will be g1 ven serious coru;iaet'Btion by the Planning Commission. ~- ' June 26, 198' PLANNlt(; COMMISSIOt£RS MAYOR ~ CITY COUNCIL t-EMBE:RS City of Carlsbad 1200 £1• Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92006 LA COSTA DEL SUII Lee Rautenkranz 2922 Caviota Circle Carlsbad, CA 92006 . .-.1 i, .. At your meeting of June 27, 1984, you will again be asked to consider an •endment to the La Costa Master Plan and a General Plan Ainendl'llent ( dftl()flQ other th ings). I wish to make my opposition to this project known. Hy reasons are many, and as fol lows : 1. The prior General Plan Amendment application would have allowed an additional 616 units; however, the wording ln the La Costa Master Plan would not have allowed that increase. The 50lution proposed now ls to increase the rulTber of units allowed by the La Costa Master Plan by 1~8. They say this increase of density ls a tradeoff. Tradeoff for whose benefit? Increasing the runt>er of units allowed by the Master Plan inay certainly give advantages to Daon, but what advantages do exht ing res ldent s rece l ve? 2. Part of the proposed aMendment would permit many non-residential uses in RLM, RM and Rtili areas. Supposedly the purpose ls to accommodate a hospital. To accOlll!IOdate the possibility of a hospital on one piece of property, they are leaving the door open for a myriad of uses in every area which ls designated RLM, RM and RHM. If the area for the hospi tal ls known (as l understand lt ls) then condition that neighborhood accordingly. Don't subject all residential zones to the posslblllty of the Mny uses which this c1111end1nent would allow. 3 . Staff states the proposed general plan and llldster plan amend■ent will not adversely i■pact surrounding properties. l disagree. Significant adverse l1111pacts could be felt by surrounding propert les lf these .-end11ents are approved. @ ' PL~Nit«; COMMISSIM:RS La Costa Oel Sur June 26, 198' Page 2 4. Staff states the master plan amendment wil 1 permit mre rlexlblli ty and wll l allow a little wider range of product types . That benefits only Daon. lxisting residents were not looking ford variety of product types in their neighborhood. They were looking ford neighborhood comprised of single- family detached homes. ~-Table Ill -3 -Development Standards. There ls no consistency between developMent types and R-1 zoning. In the R-1 zones, the development types vary froa Standard, Detached Single-Family to Clustered Hultl-F•ily. R-1 is and should be Detached Single-Family homes. That ls the case with the Master Plan as it exists. 6. In all cases, the units allowed by the Mc1Ster Plan ln the R-1 zones are maximized at 4 uni ts. The statement at the bot tom of the pdge says "*Dwelling unit count shown on this table rep esents the ....inoer of units per11ltted in the Master Plan under normal ctr~umstances . Additional units must be justified t hrough the use of the Master Plan development review process." That says that the maximum density possible ls being given as a right with no questions asked. The existing 19dster plan Identifies all the R-1 zones as Detached, Single- F amlly. It also s.ays t he ....incer of units shown represents the potential maxiffl\J• numer under ideal planning conditions. The .-endment says the maximum ls a given right dnd ideal planning conditions don't have to exist. I repeat -R-1 zoning should remain Detached, Single-Family houses and llldxil'IIUtl density should never be a given. 7. If Neighborhood Development Regulations are to be ~ollowed, wording should say Development shall rather than should. One final coaent -as City Clerk, I have attended many Council meetings and have heard Council approve projects advising neighbors they should have checked the general plan ~ zoning before buying their home. I did check the general plan and zoning and uster plan before I purchased my home":-I made an infol'flled decision to purchase a detached, single-family home ln a neighborhood of same and to be surrounded by same. 1 object to the pr'>posed aniendments to the general plan and La Costa Master Plan.